#beforan trolls

[nekropsii]

HAPPY 4/13!! Here's a partial Alpha Troll Lore Iceberg to celebrate, as asked for by fans and followers!!

All information in here is completely true, and this isn't even everything I could think of off the top of my head!! Have fun perusing, and I hope you learn a thing or two!!

#homestuck #homestuck meta #homestuck analysis #homestuck fandom #homestuck memes #alpha trolls #beforan trolls #dancestors #4/13 #happy 4/13 #lore iceberg #iceberg meme #cw abuse #cw assault #cw child harm #nekro.pdf #nekro.jpg #nekro.txt #icebergposting

[splickedylit]

Anonymous asked: Maybe Mituna 🍜🤤😮

enjoy it while it lasts, in a second he will see you looking at him and make a very off-color joke about slurping on things

#Homestuck #Splickedydoodles #Mituna Captor #in case anybody noticed; when I draw Beforan trolls with the chitin fingers I draw them with the claw-tips filed down #here he is: a kickass gamer boi

[anominous-user]

hands

#honkai impact #kevin kaslana #elysia #aponia #honkai eden #vill-v #kalpas #honkai su #yae sakura #kosma #honkai mobius #griseo #fu hua #pardofelis #fire moth #flame chasers #saw some old homestuck art of beforan troll hands and i thought the concept could look cool with the flame-chasers #would hold every single fcs hands btw #a-u art dump

[trenchgardens-ooc-ooc-ooc-ooc]

you guys all have to look at her again. her name is borrel and she is cloun... rodeo cloun so pretty aourugh... woamen... perety... eiuiri... i am jsut a dogg....

#sketch in a bottle #also i tweaked it this ones slightly better #heem heem woauman #she cares about cullee rights #the beforan clurch is very cull centric i think #she also specializes in lusus handling (rodeo clowulmwm) #she also loves performing for kids (wrigglers #young trolls #and cullees of all ages)

[scalematez]

i think that latula lost her sense of smell in a skateboarding related accident. idk why she wouldn't wear a helmet afterwards but yeah. what do you think?

It is absolutely possible she just wrecked herself severely while skateboarding and lost her sense of smell as a result. After all, it’s not like we’ve heard of her having much of a history with any of her peers (certainly not Aranea) that'd parallel what Vriska did to Terezi. Which is not a guarantee that absolutely nobody had any hand in that happening to her, per se, but it is a theory I’m personally riding on regardless.  My best guess as to why she still might not wear a helmet afterwards is that she could be intentionally trying to underplay the injury and so that’s a calculated risk to her? Especially if she sustained a brain injury (which then resulted in anosmia) and is trying to make a point to hide that, and so she’s just playing it off like losing her sense of smell is all that happened and since people (sadly) don’t seem to really take that seriously they don’t think about it much deeper than that. If she has the confidence to just keep skating without a helmet on then clearly it must not have been that bad, right? That's what she might want you to think. That, or maybe it’s just because she’s a ghost in a dream bubble and that makes injury inconsequential now. Still hurts like a bitch but like, you gotta make sacrifices for the sake of radness, right?

#that's my two cents though! #thank you so much for the ask!!!! #latula pyrope #homestuck analysis #homestuck beforans #alpha trolls #askboxkind #queuekind

[zombified-queer]

Maybe for next 4/13 I'll have a whole Homestuck AU for Hotelpod.

#or not homestuck just trolls #did you know i had to study alternian and beforan culture for a work like in-depth #i already have the quadrants mapped out dw about it or why i have that

[hskinhome]

ahaha, hi again! im the noncanon troll that asked for advice- i wanted to thank yall btw it worked really well- but i also wanted to send a canoncall!! i was a limeblood in the beforan session, i had wings and was pretty close with kankri! im looking for any of the beforan trolls tho, im happy to chat whether i sound familiar to you or not!! you can find me at ambivalentantics on discord!

Go message them if this sounds familiar!

-Mod Nepeta

#homestuck #homestuck kin #canon call #noncanon troll kin #noncanon limeblood kin #noncanon beforan troll kin #kankri vantas kin #mod nepeta

[c4ndl3-w1ck]

makes a friendsim oc/mod cutely

#his name is lelb0t he's a beforan troll yes he's my trollsona

[postinghomestuckpolls]

Have a Homestuck poll you want posted? Go ahead and submit it!

#poll #homestuck

[mysterioushistorian]

The Beforus Ancestors

honestly, i didnt like how the drawings turned out. i searched for references for the ancestors but i didnt manage to draw them the way i wanted to. most of the designs are okay, though i still feel like some of them are missing something, like colors.

more info abt them ↓

The Treasure Huntress (aka. Beforan Aradia) She was a very skilled adventurer and loved finding historic artifacts. She had a special taste for East Beforan art and culture. During her adventures, she met a violetblooded sea dweller who also had a fascination for history and dedicated his life to study and learn more about it. Together, they traveled along each other with the goal of learning more about the history of their planet, and eventually, they developed feelings for each other. However, the warmblooded girl was pale, while the coolblooded boy was red. The unspoken tension between each other lead to a fight, which ended in surprise on both sides over the admittance of feelings. Not wanting to disappoint each other, they agreed to just stay friends.

The Guardian (Beforan Tavros) He he stood up for the rights of trolls in special needs, and by that, he was also heavily against culling (as in the Beforan meaning of culling), saying that nobody should be treated that way (as helpless and fragile, making them too dependant) and by doing that, they would be "hiding the truth of the world from the children" by basically being way too overprotective. He was a farm boy, living in the country sides with his moirail, who mainly took care of the stables. Their farm was open to public visits, and one day, a certain coolblooded visitor has caught his attention. He wished to re-encounter with the man someday. One day, he has suffered a very sudden mutation that made him sprout wings, with him finally being able to realize his dream of traveling the world to spread the word about the dangers of culling and the rights of trolls in special needs.

(please correct me if I got the wrong meaning of Beforan culling, as I will talk about it again)

Radiical Psygamer (Beforan Sollux) He was, perhaps, the greatest programmer that Beforus has ever seen. With his magnificent skills, he was responsible for massively improving trolls’ technology and has contributed to the creation of a few robots and helped with the coding of various popular games. He was, however, a terrible teacher, given his introversion and general social awkwardness. He was a big figure in the world of console games and was the first to actively encourage girls to play games too.

The Unculled (Beforan Karkat) Because of his rare candy red blood, no lusus wanted to raise him, leaving him there all alone. One day, he was found by a purpleblooded man who took him to his hive in hopes that someone would pick him. They waited, and waited, and waited… but no lusus came. Tired of waiting, the big troll decided to raise the grub himself. Because of his caretaker, the mutantblooded grew up to be loud, tough and intimidating, but had a big, friendly heart and cared for his loved ones a lot.

Sharpeye Furrline (Beforan Nepeta) She was a very skilled huntress. According to herself, she only killed what she ate, and if she didn’t eat, killing them would be mean. She could hunt creatures from a very small size to ones that were the double of her own. One day, while hunting for her dinner, she has killed a creature that was going to become a Lusus of a small wriggler. Therefore, she has accidentally unlocked the rage of a coolblooded troll. Terrified, she knew she couldn’t fight back, so she ran as fast as she could, far away from that beach. No one knows what happened to her.

The Seamstress (Beforan Kanaya) A rare jadeblood with a rare taste for fashion. She became known for her dresses with odd patterns, inspired by the landscapes around her. She also traveled in search of different sights and, consequently, more ideas for dresses. Her works have eventually caught the attention of the Empress, who offered her a job as her official seamstress.

The Attorney (Beforan Terezi) She was a blind woman who did not allow her disability to hold her back. She fought back against Beforus’ culling policy and became a excellent lawyer. Dedicating herself to fight against crime and bring justice to maintain the order and peacefulness of her planet, she chased a mischievous pirate lady who seemed to cause trouble everywhere she passed. She was The Unculled’s matesprit.

Arachnid Cap8tain (Beforan Vriska) A troublemaker who caused mischief together with her pirate crew. She considered The Attorney her rival, as she was the only one who insisted in chasing her and never gave up on her quest to capture the spider pirate. A completely platonic rivalry. She held a special interest for snooker and said that the Ball 8 was actually “her lucky ball”.

The Horseman (Beforan Equius) A STRONG man who really liked horses. He lived in a farm with his moirail and was responsible for taking care of the stables. Because of his interest, they ended up having way too many horses, which resulted in them having to build a larger stable for all of them. He loved every single one of them and took great care of each one. He said he occasionally had dreams where he was half a man and half a horse (basically a centaur), which is the origin of his title.

The Clownish Caretaker (Beforan Gamzee) He rescued lususless grubs and wrigglers with an absent lusus and took care of them temporarily, until a new lusus came to become their official guardian. Despite being tall, lanky and overall intimidating, he was a very sweet and cheerful man, and loved entertaining others. Just like others, he was also heavily against culling and said that “every motherfucker should know and be able to defend themselves.” One day, a lusus was coming to his hive to pick up a grub, but it was killed by Shapeye Furrline. The man never felt so much rage before. The pure platonic hate he held towards the woman was bigger than the amount of hate he thought he could feel. Despite that, and contrary to popular belief, he did not chase the lady and took him quite some time to calm down. He was responsible for raising The Unculled and made sure to treat him properly.

The Historian (Beforan Eridan) A seadweller with a huge fascination for history, he dedicated his life to learn more about the mysteries of his world. He read diares and looked for accurate informations, instead of believing in telltale stories. He studied ancient walls and occasionally collected some artifacts, purely for research reasons, and that’s when he met The Treasure Huntress. They decided to travel together, and it did not take long for him to become flushed for her. Unfortunately, she did not return the feelings, instead being pale for him. They agreed to stay friends, but very deep inside, he was still a bit disappointed.

Her Glorious Imperialist (Beforan Feferi) The ruler of Beforus. She was a very kind and sweet woman, undoubtedly one of the best rules Beforus has ever seen. She treated her people with fairness, yet despise that, she was pro-culling, saying that some should not face the dangers of the world. After offering a job for The Seamstress, she and the jadeblood grew close. Despite being the one in charge of the planet, she decided to take care of Arachnid Cap8tain herself, and being a seadweller, it wasn’t hard to find her. She still congratulated The Attorney for her efforts in chasing the troublemaker pirate.

#mareys dump #homestuck #hom3stuck #beta trolls #beforus #beforus ancestors #aradia megido #tavros nitram #sollux captor #karkat vantas #nepeta leijon #kanaya maryam #terezi pyrope #vriska serket #equius zahhak #gamzee makara #eridan ampora #feferi peixes

[why-is-it-always-autumn]

#homestuck #troll jesus #karkat vantas #kankri vantas #the signless #the sufferer

[nekropsii]

ALPHA TROLLS RANKED BY HOW WRONG THE FANDOM AT LARGE IS ABOUT THEM:

This is a personal challenge, based entirely on my own experience and perspective, and also ranked from Most to Least Correct. I was bored, and thought this might be fun.

Putting this under a cut, because it's long as hell.

MEULIN LEIJON

People get her mostly correct, from what I’ve seen… Most of the time, fan content of Meulin is absolutely recognizable as Meulin, but her pride in her deafness + joy of learning new ways to interact with the world through/due to her disability is always removed, and I do not often see people tackle the Toxic Positivity aspect of her character. That seems less like character assassination, though, and more like a combination of people not actually playing through the Openbounds, people not being able to fathom disabled people (especially those who gained a disability later in life rather than being born disabled) being happy, and general fandom distaste for the idea of touching anything uncomfortable, especially when that uncomfortable topic is highly mundane, normalized, and potentially applicable to them or their loved ones. Meulin’s toxic positivity was, of course, commentary on Tumblr’s ecosystem at the time, so… It was much harder to touch back then.

ARANEA SERKET

People tend to get her general, broad strokes personality right, but unfortunately she gets treated pretty roughly for the crime of Being A Serket. People refuse to understand her motivations, and she often gets demonized for what she was doing around/during [S] Game Over, even though that was something she’d gotten pushed to and also was cool as fuck to watch. God forbid a woman do anything.

DAMARA MEGIDO

People are right about the racism, 100%. It is completely despicable, hard to look at, and extremely blatant. She does, however, have character outside of that. No, it isn’t “whore”, it’s more like “angry, dysfunctional abuse victim”, and she’s genuinely a very interesting and tragic character. But, again, people are right about the racism, so she gets to be placed way up here.

MEENAH PEIXES

She is such a chaotic little bastard. I love her. I really do. Please understand that she genuinely does not understand the concept of consequences. This girl didn’t have a Lusus, she didn’t have parents, it was functionally illegal to tell her “No, you can’t do that.” That would fuck up literally anyone’s moral compass. That’s not me hand waving away all the fucked up and bad shit she’s done, we all know what she did, but people tend to forget this aspect of her character and it pains me deeply, because it is a very genuinely interesting concept that I want to see more of. She’s capable of regret, we’ve seen her feel it, I just don’t think foresight is her forte. No one raised her to consider consequences, or help her experience them in a healthy way, because nobody raised her period.

Also, her ass is not butch, she is the girliest girl in the entire comic. She is about hot pink and glitter and kiss marks and unicorns and cute little puns and you will respect that. She is not masculine. Her ass is not masculine nor is she butch. Let her be her hyper-feminine self.

LATULA PYROPE

Please for the love of god there is more to her character than “Gamer Girl” and “Mituna’s Girlfriend”. You are falling for her fucking ruse. Please. Please. Please recognize that her entire character is about internalized misogyny, and being forced to overcompensate for misogyny in gaming circles as a gamer who happens to be a woman. Please. I’m begging.

KURLOZ MAKARA

His character is not that deep, it’s mostly just a string of events he is mysteriously, inexplicably involved with. The Makaras are extremely Function Over Form- their characters practically do not exist, they're mostly just plot devices that exist to push the story along. I'm sorry to Makara fans. You just invented a guy in your mind and decided he was real. He is also not that soft, though, and his relationships with both Meulin AND Mituna are not healthy. Hard to stop people from ascribing cutesy squishy lovey dynamics to random men who happened to have looked at each other once, though. Some people truly haven't graduated from 2012.

HORUSS ZAHHAK

I am begging people to consider that maybe the biggest issue here is not that he is “Bad Otherkin/Therian Representation” and is in fact maybe the fact that Hussie was actually making fun of Systems when he was writing Horuss. Because Horuss is canonically a system. He uses the word system. He uses the word switching. He uses the word host. He literally talks about his Plurality at length in extremely upfront, plain terms. I don’t know how him being “Bad Otherkin Representation” was and still is the main discourse about him. It makes me insane. That is a commentary that truly writes itself. Talk about having your priorities out of wack, honestly...

PORRIM MARYAM

No, she is not a MRA, she’s just a regular feminist who happens to live on a different planet with different politics and social hierarchies from Our Real World Earth’s USA. Whatever argument you’re about to pull out of your ass to say that she sucks is bad. She already explained what she meant by that, in more detail, very clearly, and she was right. Half the time she’s literally just giving you factual information about what Beforus was like, and literal plot synopses. She isn’t saying anything insane. She’s literally normal. I don’t know why people cannot handle or process this. Porrim has not ever said anything controversial. If you disagree with this you’re either misconstruing her on purpose or you fell for Kankri’s bait, and that’s just fucking sad at that point.

Also, she’s more than a sex object, and her tits are not huge. Honestly, half the shit she was saying was just “I am more than my sex life”, and so many people took that and made her main character trait her sex life. Just pathetic.

RUFIOH NITRAM

This man is a fucking war criminal and I will stop at nothing until he is behind bars for his crimes against Damara. Raging misogynist. Total fucking cunt. Just the worst. If I talk any more about this, this part will be 1,000 paragraphs long. But also, I’m begging people to recognize his relationship with disability, too. He was similar to Meulin in the sense that he didn’t mind his disability, and his biggest gripe with it was the way that Horuss tried to “fix” it… Which is an interesting way to expand upon how Beforus’s culling system is not only very explicitly ableist, but mimicking real world systemic ableism. I also want people to recognize that Hussie is actively having a conversation about the reclamation of slurs with Rufioh’s character, and how not letting people reclaim such language is doing nothing but giving the word power against them while stripping away their own personal agency. Rufioh’s a complicated guy, and he’s interesting and also the worst, and I am really tired of how he gets watered down to nothing but “Pretty Boy Victim Of His Inexplicably Psycho Ex”.

MITUNA CAPTOR

Holy Fucking Shit, You Guys Are Ableist.

KANKRI VANTAS

To this day I see people saying he was just Hussie making fun of SJWs. To this day. To this day people think Hussie was trying to make Every Tumblr Leftist look bad, and that he hates them Because They Are Leftists. When will people recognize him as a bootlicker to the oppressive class and the violently bigoted. When will people recognize that. When will people recognize that this is more of a commentary on the legitimate real flaws of Tumblr’s politics at the time. When. When.

When will people stop portraying him as a lovey-dovey Catholic Whore. I’m going to stab my fucking eyes out and then kill everyone in this building. Me when it's based and cool to ship an aroace character with a sexual predator. I GUESS.

CRONUS AMPORA

I say this with every ounce of sincerity I can possibly muster as a person: What the literal actual fuck.

#homestuck #homestuck fandom #alpha trolls #beforan trolls #dancestors #damara megido #rufioh nitram #mituna captor #kankri vantas #meulin leijon #porrim maryam #latula pyrope #aranea serket #horuss zahhak #kurloz makara #cronus ampora #meenah peixes #nekro.pdf #nekro.txt

[redcr9ssnine]

i do think kankris definition of "trigger" is pretty deeply distorted, i don't think he realizes it's a PTSD/mental health term. considering how anti-negativity beforus is, and also that highbloods are expected to constantly coddle anyone below them both in a systematic sense and in a social coddling silly sense while also being forced to repress any actual anger they may be feeling, i can see "trigger" meaning two different things on beforus (that parallel how they're seen in real life, which is the purpose of beforus in the first place)

Something that deeply deeply upsets a lowerblood troll and sends them into a tantrum that needs to be coddled, typically used in a sense of "oh don't trigger him, i don't want to deal with it." and seen as a sort of ridiculous oversensitivity towards something in lowbloods.

Something that sends a highblood into an improper explosion or negative mindset that can make them more probable to lash out or less likely to coddle those below them and do something violent instead. This is typically seen with more importance because the highbloods can actually do something about it beyond having a "Fit" but it also drastically effects their social credit; it is embarrassing and taboo to have a tantrum as a highblood.

I believe this is why Kankri brings up the slur discourse in regards to Mituna calling Meenah a wader despite it being a class based insult specifically punching upwards. In my interpretation at least, Kankri isn't so much telling Mituna off for hurting the feelings of Meenah, but is telling him off for not being MINDFUL of Meenahs feelings, which could have lead to an undesirable situation if she were triggered. It's his way of warning Mituna to watch his tongue around someone of power, and also why he gets so frustrated when Mituna absolutely refuses to listen.

I think he puts stake into both definitions. He cares for lowbloods who have triggers because he is constantly constantly being categorized as overly sensitive, whiney, and unpleasant for trying to communicate his needs. But due to the fact that he's a red blood and EVERYONES higher than him, he still sees them that way, and has a hard time relating to any of them or wanting to give them his sympathies. Again, Mituna for example, he cares a lot less about triggering Mituna because... Mituna is Mituna. He literally has no power to do anything about it TOWARDS Kankri, but also, Kankri still views him as higher and more privileged than he is, and gets deeply frustrated at Mitunas lack of social graces to keep himself safe, as well as Mitunas refusal to HIDE how disabled he is. He thinks it's pretty insulting that Mituna is implying that anyone cullable or disabled should be THAT incapable of taking care of themselves. (masked autism vs unmasked autism)

But I also think he cares a LOT about triggering highbloods specifically because it can directly impact his safety, and even if he himself has never experienced intense violence due to this (or at least if he has, it was very infrequent) he has constant visions of it through the signless and it fucking terrifies him. He cares a lot about not triggering anyone he thinks could drastically hurt him or impact his life in any way because he thinks if they're triggered they have the full right to do anything to him back in their emotional state. Which I believe is also a mindset encouraged on Beforus.

this is all just high edible ramblings. my point is i think beforus believes that highbloods should have their asses pat so they don't explode and kill everyone, and lowbloods should be placid and have everything done for them because theyre sooooo cute and sooooo helpless and soooooooo stupid. and while kankri doesnt agree with these mindsets he definitely interacts with the world through the lense of beforan politics, assuming everybody else does too. he thinks everybody has the same context that he does, and he doesn't understand that he actaully lacks a signifigant amount of knowledge and perspective

#ooc #[headcanon #((sorry this was initially going to be a small thing ab triggers nad became kankri analysis))

[nintendont2502]

Thinking about the end of act curtains,,, I have so many thoughts about them but fuck if I can be bothered phrasing them coherently

Okay so it's red curtains for beta kids session, blue curtains over red curtains for hivebent/the alternian session, and green curtains for act 6/the alpha kids right. Red and blue have previously been associated with the link between the beta earth and alternian universes/sessions (mostly via the tumour - the kids universe is the red tube (like their curtains) and the trolls universe is the blue tube (presumably like their curtains)), but there's something so interesting with each respective universe's sburb colours

Beta earth sburb is green, alpha earth sburb is red, and alternian sgrub is purple. Theres some interesting potential there with green and red being used a *ton* throughout homestuck to represent space and time respectively (beta sburb unites the kids across space, while alpha sburb unites the kids across time), and alternian sgrub being purple (aka the product of red and blue) while it's session ends with red and blue curtains is cool but also

Okay alpha sburb is red. The alpha session was created by the beta session, which is opened and closed by red curtains. The alpha session has green curtains. Beta sburb is green. There's something there.

If this pattern holds true for the troll sessions (and isn't just a fun coincidence/another example of red and green duality which is incredibly likely lets be real), the alternian session is purple, but it's curtains are arguably blue (since the red curtains represent the act 5 act 2 subact taking place under the umbrella of the larger, beta kids focused act 5 (hence the red curtain). This implies that beforan sgrub was blue, and it's associated session/curtains colour was purple. Does this mean literally anything? God no

I do think the continued red and blue duality with red = beta earth and blue = alternia continuing here is cool, and also the specific colours are. Interesting.

In session order, the associated session colours are blue, purple, green, red.

John, Rose, Jade, and Dave. If Jade and Dave swapped places, that would be an exact match to the kids entry order which is cool

Idk this is definitely just me looking too far into things but I think it's fun

#me.txt #homestuck #hs meta

[cringefail-clown]

One problem concerning your turnabout au:

Beforan as a more peaceful less cruel predecessor to Alternia stems from Beforan Feferi ruling the place with her ideology. What is different in this AU that made this Alternia still require Kankri to hide his blood color, despite logically it's still an adult Feferi ruling the place?

(I don't actually know if I missed a post on that topic so please humor me)

i think ive thrown some ideas bout how the beforan and alternian cultures would develop in turnabout somewhere (think it was the calliope and caliborn post) but ive been thinking bout it more since then so ill try to explain it a lil better!

basics are still the same - beforus is more peaceful and alternia is violent - but feferi and meenah swap places as rulers. when it comes to meenah and her time on beforus i latched onto how in canon she really didnt want to be a ruler, she didnt like the whole responsibility of taking care of a whole ass planet. its what would have happened in the au as well, she sees the whole dumpster fire, goes "fuck this actually" and just dips on the whole queen shtick. she didnt want to do it really, at least not alone. i imagine she changed the entire core of how trolls society rolls (kinda like how feferi introduced the whole culling system), but babying every lower cast is not exactly meenahs style, so i thought about her introducing some kind of council to help her make decisions and run from her responsibilities - imagine like one representative of each blood cast to make everything fair and square. basically she bends ruling system into some kind of presidency lmfao, and since everyone has a say in how things are managed it leads to more fair society (or something i need to think bout it more but thats the gist of it)

and then we get to the topic of alternian feferi. she at first tries to mold the trollian society into her utopian dream, but due to calliopes machinations it fails, and it fails hard. no matter what she tries she just cant change how things work, and overtime she becomes more and more bitter and defeated, slowly morphing into the mindset of "well if i cant make the best of it, i WILL make the worst of it" and just totally snaps, becoming the ruthless dictator of the alternia. from this point on it pretty closely follows how things develop in canon, with adult trolls moving into space and her eventual arrival on earth (and her deal with callie)

#homestuck #turnabout au #homestuck turnabout #meenah peixes #feferi peixes #ask #the more i talk about feferi as condy the more tragic she becomes #its very messy but thats the basic idea for how beforus and alternia works in this au hope it cleared up some things lmfao

[iotitischronica]

Her Compassionate Beneficence

The beautiful and kind Empress of Beforus, full of love for her subjects. However despite all her efforts, there are still some who say that The Benefice isn't the perfect ruler. That her love is smothering and suffocating akin to squid's tentacles. That Beforans need more freedom to explore and make mistakes on their own. But, as the Empress says, she knows best.

The Sorcerer | The WWarlock

A figure so controversial he entered the status of a myth, as many trolls of Beforus refused to believe someone as wicked as the Sorcerer, later known as the WWarlock, could exist. Maybe his story deserved to be told, but the Empress made sure his name was erased from history. Perhaps for the better.

Beforus ancestors that I drew for the Alphancestors zine hosted by @gloriousmarey which you should check out now!!

#homestuck #my art #beforus #feferi peixes #eridan ampora #beforus ancestors #my first zine hehe