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calliopecalling · 2 years
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QOTS Rewatch - 3x12 - Justicia
Oof, where do I begin with this episode. This one and the next almost feel like parts I and II of the same arc and they are both (in my opinion) really well-written, tight, satisfying episodes. Bringing Camila back to her OG squad is a big part of that (*god* she's just suddenly sooo much more interesting when she's sharing scenes with Teresa, James, even Pote!!! WHY they wasted her on Cortez and Isabela this season is waaaaay beyond me); Teresa's business acumen is on full display; Castel always adds a little something; and there's lots of quality Jeresa angst while they both still manage to stuff down all the fEeeLIngS and show off how synchronized they are anyway. Not to mention the whole new attitude Javier brings to the table. To me, no scene feels misplaced or extraneous except in this episode for one of the Cortez scenes at the beginning (but I really dislike his entire plot, so that's no surprise).
AND YET. Listen, these metas have really become an opportunity for me to pick apart the entire Jeresa relationship, sorry not sorry, but so even though this is story-wise and character-wise such a strong episode, I...... can't handle it 😭😭😭😭
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My format for these rewatches has continued to deteriorate over time such that last time I didn't even recap anything, I just ranted about the James mole situation. This time the events do warrant at least limited revisiting. I always forget how many little *shocking plot twists* the writers tried to throw in multiple times a season and tbh I find a lot of the side plots and relationships fairly confusing, even when it's my like, 4th full rewatch of this season!
The main one that still confuses me is all the elements of deceit involved in the Camila/Cortez story, including now, in this episode, Castel getting involved. She meets with Cortez and it sounds like she's prepared to team up with him against Camila and her uncle... but then next episode she's asking Teresa to take him out. I don't get it?
Anyway: the episode opens with Teresa meeting up with Oleg to ask him to supply her, which he refuses given the mess she made in Malta. He'll be singing a different tune in s5! I appreciate that he remained a recurring character to the end. That was nice continuity.
Then of course there's James meeting Camila at a motel (and bringing her a red dress and accoutrements so that... she's back enough to her old self to try and metaphorically top Teresa again? why James? so on-brand for him to pay his former boss that respect but at the same time Camila has literally been responsible for MUCH of Teresa's--and hence his own--pain and grief this season...) and facilitating her meet and greet with Teresa.
Other non-Jeresa stuff includes Camila introducing Teresa to Reynaldo and vouching for her so that Reynaldo agrees to supply Teresa (obviously none of them aware that Castel is plotting behind Reynaldo's back).
We meet Javier Jimenez (that approach on the motorcycle with sunglasses and the bandana is so great) who comes to help James rescue George from Cortez's mental institution. Boaz is willing to send men to help too but only on condition that Teresa will let him work for her afterwards. She agrees 😩 Oh, Teresa. Surrounding yourself with all these traditional cartel people is not going to make it any easier for you to do things your 'different way.'
Unfortunately George isn't at the hospital so they have to come up with a different way to get him. Teresa and her brilliantly strategic mind comes up with the plan to swap Camila for George, and send Camila in with a tracking device so that they'll know her location (and thus, Cortez's). It's poetic justice (for both Camila and Guero) that it's Guero's necklace with its tracker that she puts on Camila.
Before I get into the Jeresa stuff I just want to talk about how this episode reminds us in both explicit and implicit ways how embattled Teresa is going into the end of this season. In an unusual move for a show that tends to move past traumas fairly quickly so as to make room for the next one, she still has the visible scrapes and bruises from the blast that nearly killed her in Bolivia two episodes ago. Almost every (non-James) scene involves her looking wearily bored, as if she's just starting to check out; all the problems piling up to form a thick callous. She faces off with Camila finally (which BTW, I cannot BELIEVE that scene was not giffed; okay I can believe it because this fandom kinda stopped caring about the Teresa x Camila relationship this season, mostly bc Jeresa ramped up and also because Teresa and Camila shared virtually no scenes so any investment we had in them just kinda faded I guess) and Camila keeps making jibes (both to her face and not) about how she's basically become "what she hated the most"--the violence, the threats, the deal-making and -breaking. As viewers I feel like we're kind of left with the uncomfortable question: has she become like Camila?
But to me the answer is a resounding no; not only because, unlike Camila, she doesn't break deals (Camila, talking to Reynaldo, assumes Teresa will hurt her, showing just how much Camila is seeing herself in Teresa only because she wants to and because she's narcissistic, rather than because it's true), but also because, at the same time as we're seeing a cooler, less affected Teresa (in some ways evoking the queenpin), she's also this episode--with James--showing a crack in her veneer that goes deeper than we've ever seen with her. Like, ever. She feels deeply how mistaken she was about the possibility of James being a mole and at the same time she feels a little helpless to make it right. She can't make empty promises to him (as someone who has such a history of trauma and who knows trust comes hard to her, she knows she can't promise she will never mistrust him again) and, knowing it's that form of unconditional trust that he most wants and needs from her, she won't disrespect him by begging him to forgive her or to stay. But she can try to at least tell him what she wants. And she can make every effort to show how much she does actually trust him, both with the signs of responsibility and support she gives him business-wise and by doing her utter level best not to hide from him emotionally. The anguish she displays in their fence conversation... oooff.
But like everything with the two of them, the personal is polluted by the business and she can't quite fully separate the two, which makes this so painful. James can't work for someone who keeps questioning his loyalty, so he won't be there for the rest. Teresa wants him to stay to run Phoenix. James finally asks, is that just a business offer? And she gives the smallest, saddest shake of her head (NO IT'S NOT JAMES!) while still unable to directly answer the question. I don't wanna lose you. Sure, she's answering it as a question about whether it's just business, so it feels obvious she's talking about their personal relationship. But it's not enough. Obviously I 100% believe James already knew he had to leave with Devon by that point, so I don't think anything she could've said would've changed the outcome of the season, but I think they could've had a little bit more catharsis between them before the season end if Teresa had been able to actually figure out what it meant for her to love him as a person, separate from the business.
She's a long way from being able to do that, though. Actually, in many ways, it's their working relationship that feels safest and most comforting to her. It's the stable thing between them. It's the thing that clicked into place immediately when they met. Like from the moment she stared across the table at him in Camila's warehouse swallowing down the baggies of coke and he stared unblinking back at her, there was an understanding between them, something that was so automatic and unintentional in their relationship, like it existed in their relationship a priori, that they didn't realize it was there and had to go on respective journeys of dawning awareness about what that "thing" was that lived in the space between them and what it meant. It was a quicker realization for James but for Teresa I think she's only just realized that all the things she'd grown to know about James (as she put in 3x02, "how you shoot and how you fight") were actually profoundly important things about him, things that could be taken out of the world they were in and that mattered to her personally, too: his loyalty, and competence, and intelligence; his respectfulness but willingness to challenge; his physical strength and stamina; his bravery. Look, she met James in a brutal and unforgiving context and he is a dangerous person, so how is she supposed to think about him outside of that? How is she supposed to make sense of the fact she's falling (fallen) in love with someone who was inextricable from the world she felt so trapped by?
This duality of the personal and the professional relationship is also why, I think, I can so easily forgive her for the way she mistrusted James in 3x10-3x11. If they were just lovers, that mistrust would feel so much more misplaced and unfair. With a lover, there's a reasonable expectation that you need to communicate about things. That if you doubt them, you talk about it. If you feel hurt, you talk about it. If you think they're betraying you, you talk about it. But they aren't just lovers. And also, they're barely lovers. We don't really have any idea how much time passes between 3x05 and 3x10, but basically, they hooked up once and then Guero died, and then presumably some time passes, they dance around each other, stumble at various communication attempts, and then take over Phoenix finally at which point they hook up again. Then she gets called to Bolivia. All of this could be a week or two, or a few months. But since George goes missing in 3x08 and they don't get him back again until this episode, I don't really think that there's THAT much time between 3x09 and 3x10; otherwise, they would've certainly been trying to get George back. (Or idk, who knows about TV show timeline issues.) Anyway the point is by the time she goes to Bolivia, they're probably in some undefined state, lovers but only under the cover of darkness, so to speak, and otherwise: business.
And as her employee, she'd be completely insane not to consider him a major candidate for the mole. Sure, she should've looked around and considered the other possibilities. But James is by far the most dangerous of those possibilities. She knows that it must've been someone in her inner circle to get the tracker in that necklace. She knows it needs to be someone with cunning and intelligence to be so duplicitous as to be around her for god knows how long and act trustworthy. If James was the mole, she was fucked. (Sorry, no pun intended, lol.) And she needed to figure out a plan immediately. So it was the mix of personal and business that made everything so murky for her with respect to him.
ANYWAY, that's it from me on that subject, I'm really not trying to be judge and jury on this front anymore. It's just that the tragedy of their relationship to me -- and really the tragedy of this entire season and her entire attempt to be in this business -- is that it seems like love cannot survive in this business, and in order to have the power she's begun to grasp for because slowly and surely she's realized that enemies won't stop coming for her, she has to stuff down her emotions in favor of survival. She won't run off with James at the end of this season because, even though I believe deep down she is a romantic at heart, her softening to James over the course of this season has also been simultaneous with her hardening from the lessons of this business. And James--being inextricable from the business--can't represent an exit from the business for her yet. So she just has to swallow down the pain of their relationship. Yet another layer to add to her callous.
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qotsgifs · 2 years
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Queen of the South | 5x06 - Plata O Plomo
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jerepars · 3 years
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My QOTS 5x09 live reactions:
Oscar is in the “previously on”. Oscar x Jeresa team up?
SO MUCH Kote in the “previously on”. Whyyyyyy? We already had to sit through their episodes once, isn’t that enough?
James taking off that ski mask was somehow really hot
Is it bad if I want to skip through this suburbia Kote stuff and just get to the Jeresa team up lol
“Like the devil himself he lives in the shadows” uhhhhh that was a little…YA fiction-esque. Lol who wrote that line and are they serious.
If there were two very attractive people sitting across from me, dressed like yin and yang, promising me protection like that…I think I’d be very confused LOL
Konstantin Federov? Is Kostya like, a Russian hockey player? Did he play in Detroit with the Russian Five? I am howling.
an INSTRUMENT TO DEFEND OUR DEMOCRACY lol lol lol
again Devon leaves the room without being a blatantly obvious Jeresa shipper. Boooooooo.
suburbia suburbia why can’t we do away with ya?
what happened to don’t come out until I tell you to?! Do you understand the consequences of death or not?
oh good job just show the neighbors you guys have a fucking arsenal in your kitchen that’s not gonna be suspicious at all
“I am a soldado, I will never put my guard down” really REALLY we all know that’s not true this is how you guys got banished to Little Rock in the first place
“it was a big raccoon” Raccoons are adorable they look like little bandits leave them alone
Jeresa are sitting ~very close~!!!!
“in the DR” As in, in the Dominican Republic? Do people really say that? Sounds like I’m watching Big Brother and they’re talking about the Diary Room LOL
Wait what Teresa is doing coke right as James leaves the room? What if he forgot something and comes back??? Does he know? Has this just been accepted by him? This is never going to be addressed, is it?
Ooh, theory time. Is the coke...not coke? Is it something else and Teresa has been building up a tolerance to it so she can appear dead?
“I know you want things to go back to normal” BACK to normal? When were things normal? Why does half the episode have to be spent on these two?
“I don’t want to live like this anymore” You…you...WHAT? Why did you join a drug cartel? You BEGGED back in with them. Proved yourself. Worked too hard, isn’t that what you said? What did you think it was going to be like?
Do we, the audience, have to suffer through the garage sale, too?
HOW LONG IS THIS SCENE WHY ARE WE STILL IN SUBURBIA
Yeah snoop through your neighbor’s mail when the whole neighborhood is around THAT’S NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL
oh it’s his little girl’s team now we have to suffer through Pote’s redemption for his misogynist sexist comments from earlier in the season
Yo, why are we only meeting Domingo now? I like this guy. He’s fun. Plus he’s got cool piercings.
aaaaand he’s dead.
Oh, okay, not dead. But injured.
YO I LIKE DOMINGO
CHICHO HOW COULD YOU CALL POTE THIS IS NOT HOW I RAISED YOU
omg is KA going to tell Pote to go back to Teresa where he’s happy because she doesn’t want his spirit to die? If so, I think I might want to die.
I don’t need another tender Kote moment JFC MAKE IT STOP
BRICKS!!!! KISS TIME!!!!
“You wouldn’t let me do it, so why should I let you?” Dead. Dead. DEAAAADDDDD. 😭😭😭
I love you. SAME. (I still wish T had said it first)
So no conversation. Just straight to the sex? Okay. I guess we’ll roll with it.
The way he pauses to tuck her hair away from her face and looks at her all starry-eyed when she’s on top of him. Dead. Dead. Dead dead dead.
And then they SMILE. Can you be more dead than dead? I think that’s where I’m at. 👻
Sidenote: I don’t think we’ve ever seen this much of J’s tattoos up close. This is glorious. Lol yeah because there’s sex happening and I’m looking at the details of the tattoos hahaha
The hand on the thigh to end it before the camera pans and then fade to black. That’s great. I will accept it.
She’s touching his arm in the morning after scene. There is SUNLIGHT. This is the best lit Jeresa scene of this show’s existence, lol. Holy shit.
When does she tell him she loves him? This is obviously setting us up for a goodbye.
LOLOLOLOL James is talking about weapons and making sure she’s well equipped and she’s giving him heart eyes instead sooo is she about to say it?
SHE SAID IT!!!!!!!!!
Jeresa making out. Jeresa getting it on. Jeresa kissing after a love confession. In one episode. ❤️ 🥰 🎊 💞 💓 😘 🎇 🔥 Bask in the glory. Savor it. Let’s all enjoy this and rewatch and reblog gifs etc etc etc because it’s all we’re ever going to get. 🎁
“She’s not going in without us.” “I’ll go.” OoOoOoOo this is all part of the plan isn’t it?
But when did you have time to plan this when you spent all night making out and having sex. You must have been spent. Did you multitask in bed? 😂
Scared Puppy James :( :( :(
Wait. WAIT. This is very plot holey. Kostya didn’t know anything about Teresa’s business? He’s apparently the biggest bad-ass there is and he didn’t even vet her? He just let Oksana handle it? WHATTTTTTT
The tequila isn’t poisoned. She put something on the shot glass, probably? That’s why they had Chicho talk about how Oksana was killed at the beginning. Right?
So Kostya has been elusive all season. Fucked everything up. And he dies as soon as he meets her? WHAT. Just like that. This is so deflating.
Uhhhh, listen, I get it, Teresa is obviously gonna make it out of here. But why have Kostya’s guys not shot her in the head yet? This is very unrealistic. They wouldn’t hesitate. She would be on the ground in a second.
WHAT. NO. WHY IS POTE HERE. GO AWAY. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO STEP UP, CHICHO.
I wish Pote had died. A final sacrifice for his family. That would have been his redemption. And I’m not apologizing for anything I just said. Full offense. Not sorry.
“You had enough on your plate.” Are you KIDDING ME? Yo WHO THE FUCK DOES CHICHO THINK HE IS? Making decisions for the boss? That’s not…that wouldn’t happen, helpful or not. Teresa would kill HIM. Know your place. Wow how nice of the writers to screw Chicho up.
“I’m only legit until Devon decides I’m not” So…okay. Jeresa have definitely talked about Devon and made the sniper plan now, right? If she’s saying this?
“Can you shut down operations in New Orleans and meet us when you’re done?” “Of course.” That’s the goodbye, isn’t it? We’re still on track for the sniper plan?
“When everything’s settled I’ll send for you.” Uh. Maybe KA is safer in Little Rock. But you’re gonna leave her out in the wind for an indefinite amount of time? OKAY.
“He may not be as nice” LOL
Omg this is like the most continuous dialogue James has had all season and it’s wasted on DEVON
Personally not a fan of this very predictable James-was-still-under-Devon’s-wing-the-whole-time because I think it’s lazy writing. Very lazy. BUT I bet in James’ mind, he’s for sure been pretending and this whole time whenever he’s been sitting boo-boo faced in the corner moping, he’s been planning out how to tell Teresa and going over the plan of how she’s going to “die” and they’re going to disappear. So he could tell her and they could execute it perfectly when the right time presented itself. Right? And that’s all going to be shoved into like the last few minutes of the finale, isn’t it?
Ah okay so sniper James is going to shoot Teresa through the window to make Devon think he followed orders. They WERE multitasking in bed. 😂😂
I knew it. I fucking knew it. It’s exactly the ending to this episode we all expected.
Finale preview: soooooooo Teresa is barely in it because she’s “dead” and we have to watch Pote carry out her “wishes” for most of it until it’s safe for her to come alive again? COME ON.
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Pote and Boaz: *fighting*
Chicho: Can I get a waffle??
Chicho: Can I please get a waffle??
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tre-ang-fer · 3 years
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Boaz literally told Teresa TO HER FACE, that if he was her, he would kill him...because he’s impulsive. He said that. He vocalised to her, that by nature, he is reckless, unhinged, and manic...all in that one word. AND SHE KEPT HIM IN HER ORGANISATION?!?!?
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fandomkru · 3 years
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Queen of the South - Character study in watercolor (3/3)
Marcel Dumas Kelly Anne Van Awken Boaz Jimenez Javier Jimenez
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halfasbigasaminute · 3 years
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QUEEN OF THE SOUTH — INCORRECT QUOTES [ MEME EDITION ]
Boaz Jimenez about James Valdez Santiago
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ohheyalex · 3 years
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Man Queen of The South is really be making my jaw drop, Boaz just really brought the judge’s head into Teresa’s office 😭
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northcountry39 · 5 years
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The Return of King George
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zaraquinn · 5 years
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OKAY I GOT TO THAT POINT WHERE I ASK YALL QUEEN OF THE SOUTH FANS TO SEND ME YOUR X READER ASKS BC IM IN THAT FUCKING PHASE RN
i will write for:
- javier jimenez (obvious-fucking-ly)
- james valdez
- guero davila
- pote galvaz
- boaz jimenez
- king george
Go on and ask away :)
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aniray · 5 years
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Look...
Listen here, y'all...
Listen...
LISTEN...... NO..... THE FUCK?!
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qotsgifs · 3 years
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Queen of the South | 5x05 - Mas Dinero Mas Problemas
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And you’ll want to give in […] but it’s a choice. An excruciatingly painful and impossible feeling choice.
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jerepars · 3 years
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My QOTS 5x08 live reactions:
Should have let James drive JFC Pote’s hand placement on the wheel is all wrong
“You’re gonna get us killed” Yes. AGREED.
A Jeresa phone call? In the first few minutes? What is this!
Angel is decent enough to be a villain’s sidekick, yeah.
“If Pote were half the man you say he is, you wouldn’t be here now” Well…Boaz isn’t wrong.
Lol Pote you dope you’re driving the wrong way! You just passed your baby mama in the white van!
I know that look, James! Something bad is about to happen!
“People equate crazy with stupid…and I’m neither. People are gonna find out soon enough.” That’s a good one, actually.
James is about to tell her about Devon isn’t he?!?!?
OH MY GOD HERE WE GO
“You were protecting me.” Well YEAH just like ALWAYS. HOW CAN THIS BE A SURPRISE TO TERESA AT THIS POINT?? But omg she KNOWS! She knows what he did for her so she could rise! (maybe she now also knows why he was upset with her callous decisions?)
“I’ll call him” THIS IS GONNA GET UGLY
oh P referring to KA as HIS WOMAN now? Ew. There’s so much Pote this episode and he is no less annoying so I hate all of it.
Doesn’t James have a bunch of phone trackers and other paraphernalia? Why can’t they find KA and Boaz that way?
Look away, Chicho. Look away.
“You think too highly of yourself” lol, again, Boaz is not wrong
Gotta love Teresa putting on a white leather jacket (from the s4 intro?) for dramatic effect
“we chose this life, your baby didn’t” yeahhhhhhhhh ever heard of birth control? Maybe try your hardest to not knock up your ‘lovebug’ when you’re both part of a drug cartel and your leader has been on a power trip but is also trying to go legit??
I’m a fan of Pote not letting Teresa back in the car there tbh. His first decision of the episode I haven’t hated. Teresa should stay with James and Chicho and Avi’s crew.
This kidnapping plot isn’t even over yet and I’m already so sick of it because we know KA will be fine. Listen, I just think this plot is So. Flimsy. All Pote had to do was put his phone on silent/vibrate instead of not turning it off at the doctor’s office. And I dunno, maybe NOT LEAVE the ultrasound?
“they did this on my order” omg Devon is GREAT
when Devon says “the family you have left” does he mean James because this is very important to me
(I just want Devon to be a Jeresa shipper is that so much to ask? lol)
DEVON. IS. GREAT. He’s so good. I love this.
“I’m sorry” why are YOU sorry J you’re the one doing the most!
“we need to kill Kostya” Are we sure this phone call is happening on a secure line? You’re not tracking phones but what about all your enemies? How sure are we Kostya isn’t privy to this Teresa/Oksana conversation?
So KA is stupid enough to plan the party at a safe house but figured out all on her own how to survive and escape abduction. Uh…okay. Remember when KA was a rat? Remember how she came back and ‘proved’ herself to get back in T’s good graces? Maybe survival is like the one thing KA is good at.
okay HONESTLY was this kidnapping plot necessary AT ALL if it gets resolved in 20 minutes? so many other ways to get T exposed that doesn’t have to revolve around Kote
“i’m just happy she’s home and safe” and you’re continuing to stay at the safe house? IT’S BLOWN. GTFO. ALL OF YOU.
Oksana is about to die isn’t she?
Shoutout to Avi. Lots of shoutouts to Avi this episode!
“you gonna need me” Lol you haven’t contributed anything valuable in months, cabrón. You and KA are the ones who sunk the ship.
why do the writers want so badly for me to feel bad for Kote I am so sick of Kote it’s been nothing but Kote this season
can Teresa have a breakdown in James’ arms now?
I guess that’s a no.
when Kostya says “you and everyone you love” is he referring to James and does Teresa also think that because she looks at him once it’s said and this is very important to me
THEY PUT THE JERESA KISS IN THE PROMO FOR 5x09 IS THIS SERIOUS
I can’t tell if putting that kiss in the promo is good or bad. Does it mean it’s the only kiss we ever get again to end the series I NEED ANSWERS
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Boaz: I'm a reverse necromancer. King George: Isn't that just killing people? Boaz: Ah, technicality.
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