#cisphobia cw

[chickentenderqueer]

something about these. just something about this is so fucking funny to me.

#trans #jk rowling #transmisoginy cw #transmisogny tw #cis people #weary sigh #transphobia cw #sort of. like these people are trying (?) but #first one is like putting cis next to your pronouns #like babes that is NOT how it works #unless there is some other meaning of tme that I am uninformed about #and the second one #Jesus christ #that is REALLY like putting cis next to your pronouns #cisphobia #yeah I said it #i'm cisphobic

[evillesbianvillainarchive]

Callout for natsubutart

cw for: racism, porn and sexualization of minors, transphobia, porn of abusive ships, incest porn

Hey @natsubutart next time you decide to screenshot someone’s art and post it just to complain about characters being dark skin how about you think first before being a pathetic racist.

I wrote a more completed callout on google drive with screenshots too in case she deletes them (so it’s pretty graphic don’t open it if you are easely triggered by these things)

the rest is under cut because it’s really long

RACISM

First I’d like to specify that Natsu is a white italian woman currently living in Japan.

Natsu screenshotted one of my drawing displaying several bnha characters drawn as mixed or having dark skin (this one) and complained about it on her private facebook.

She is Ilaria Ester Macciocca

Caption: the screen of my drawing with her two comments “MALEDIZIONE SONO GIAPPONESI” (translation: DAMN THEY ARE JAPANESE) and “tfw Japan is not a melting pot and maybe we should respect the author’s choice to make them all Japanese” -> insinuating that 1) since Japan isnt a melting pot there is absolutely no kind of diaspora in Japan 2) Mixed japanese people are NOT a thing 3) Japanese people without fair skin don’t exist 

In this she makes fun of representation agreeing with her friend there

Simona Santoro: (im directly translating it) I can understand that people do it with MLP that are horses and so you anthropomorphize them however you want, but if the characters are already humans why changing them? Why don’t you create an OC on your own? Then sorry but I find it racist that there is no redhead with fair skin like me eh RACISTS

Ilaria Ester: You are already represented enough!!!! (note: just to be sure this is sarcastic shes not telling her friend...she is actually...represented enough)

In this she replies to a comment asking why i drew even the “white” ones with black features (????)

translation -> because they are not white they are probably biracial.... from the colors I’d say probably asian/black. I totally don’t agree because we are talking about characters with a japanese heritage…… it’s not like in America where you are expecting a racial diversity like int he drawing. In Japan it’s really hard. And most important in Japanese international medias it’s not represented so why come to this? I mean I’m okay with Deku being a fucking japanese and not an italian, but it’s not okay because a japanese it “white”??

I don’t even know how to comment this, i think it talks by itself but let’s underline the important thing. 1) since japanese media doesn’t portray racial diversity we shouldn’t?? 2) you are a white italian why do you think you can disagree on a discussion about racial diversity?

(i have other screenshots if you want)

PORN ANS SEXUALIZATION OF MINORS

Netsu is 26 years old

Netsu drew (and reblogged) several drawing of minors in clear sexual situations, nsfw-ish, and sexualize minors often (bakushima - bakushima - bakushima - the tag of this one - several underage porn of homestuck characters and incest too - otayuri porn - other otayuri porn - you just really need to ckeck her nsfw tag) and even if some of this drawing are old she never apologized for it and they are still on her blog

And even if she shows - very permormative - concern for minors following her blog and commissioning porn (performative because she is clearly more worried about being caught, as an adult, while selling porn to minors)  the moment she is in front of a 17 years old following her blog she just tells them “do whatever you want” without even trying to block them

(is this really everything you can do?)

PORN OF ABUSIVE SHIPS AND INCEST PORN

She has an entire tag dedicated to incest porn where she mostly reblogs osomatsu san (x - x - x) and also homestuck incest (x). She also apparently “doesn’t really like incest” but this doesn’t seem to stop her from drawing porn of it. 

She also draws lot of (genderbent and non) porn of a very infamous abusive hs ship, vristav (x)

TRANSPHOBIA

I think Natsu is cis but I might be wrong

Back on the topic of gendebend she draws A LOT of it and showed no interest in people telling her why it’s wrong. 

On the more cringey less callout worth stuff she believes in cisphobia and think it’s offensive to call people cishet

#racism \ #csa \ #incest \ #abuse \ #this is ok2rb #natsubutart

[silver-and-ivory]

https://everything-narrative.tumblr.com/post/159289383896/sexycontainmentprocedures-hi-im-white-im-a

Linking instead of reblogging since I don’t want a confrontation. Also, warning for oddly strident post below.

I do not like this norm at all. In fact, I reject it in the strongest terms.

Making jokes at the expense of other people in some way dehumanizes them. It makes them less than; it makes them an underclass.

“Fuck white people”. “What if we just murdered all straights?” “Cishets can go and fuck themselves and their feelings.” What do these all have in common?

These are power plays. These are saying, “This space is a space where I can say cruel things about large groups of people, and no one is allowed to object.” Which is not a problem in itself except it is also saying:

“No one is allowed to feel uncomfortable, or to object, or else they are racist (etc.).”

Yeah, it’s empowering. I agree. And yeah, safe spaces need to exist for people of color to air their grievances and, yes, to create norms like these where “Fuck white people” is considered common.

But not spaces with white people, and not spaces with allies.

Because underneath that empowerment, not buried quite deeply, is a violation. A violation that overrides and invalidates people’s emotional instincts, and that, moreover, divides the world into privileged and oppressor quite nicely, ingroup and outgroup.

You have neatly created a class of people whose feelings don’t matter and a class of people whose feelings always matter, who must be listened to, always, always, even at incredible cost. (”Defend trans women at all costs!”) There is a class of protected people-

-and there is a class of injurable grunts whose job it is to listen, and who can be ostracized for stepping a foot out of line. Whose place it is to remain polite, and kind, and accommodating, and listening, even when the words tear their hearts to shreds and their emotions to nothing; even when it feels that they are stripped to the bone and dying, they have not done enough, they must not rest, for their privilege makes them dirty.

It’s a radicalism test (the-grey-tribe I think invented this concept). And once you’ve committed to this idea, you’ve committed to the rest.

And what I’m coming to realize is that people don’t notice this. White people come listening and submissive, and they get hostility for their troubles, and they tell themselves that they don’t get to be upset, it’s fine, because people of color could never be racist, because it’s not structural.

And here we see also: certain upsets don’t matter. If a person of color says something out of anger that hurts your feelings, the message is, your feelings can fuck off because they’re not structural.

And so people snipe at every possible microaggression (”don’t listen to rap music, that’s racist”) and yet tolerate increasingly painful amounts of overt racism.

Look. It’s one thing to forgive anger. But it is absolutely another if actions like this become the norm rather than the exception.

It’s the difference between snapping out of rage at someone once, and being abusive. The first is a mistake. The second is endorsed; Ozy writes that Lundy Barcroft once wrote that abusers are not defined by being people with mental illnesses, but instead by having corrupt value systems.

This is a corrupt value system. What good can come of telling people that their feelings don’t matter unless they are structural? What good can come of normalizing the violation of boundaries? What good can come of making fun of privileged people for having feelings?

This is abusive. This sets people up to deny their feelings and to deny their realities and to accustom themselves to silence. Fuck that. If you fight for real equality then you cannot build gaslighting into the structure of your movement. You cannot build justice upon a foundation of human suffering.

#classic and good posts #abuse cw #gaslighting cw #racism cw #death cw #emotional abuse cw #sj #effortpost #cisphobia cw #heterophobia cw #anti white racism cw

[silver-and-ivory]

I simply do not believe that you can, in fact, continue to listen to black people, or indeed ascribe any value to them at all, while also defending your right to be afraid of them as a generic group. You -will- discount what they say, regardless of whether or not it should be discounted. And like, your entire justification for this, besides someone abusing you, is that other people feeling bad makes you feel bad, and how dare they. That you're proud of this is amazing.

(cont) But I dunno, you clearly can’t and shouldn’t engage with racial issues because of your scrupulosity. What’s astounding, though, is that you take that same scrupulosity and wear it like a badge of integrity and superiority. And it’s perfect for you, since because your racism is a product of your scrupulosity, nobody can criticize you, because that would be unfair.

Hey, anon.

If I’m interpreting your message correctly, you’re mainly concerned by me because you think that I am proud of hating black people, and the other issues - not believing I can listen to black people, saying I don’t value black people, etc. - are all linked to this. You would be okay if I treated my scrupulosity as something that I needed to work on, but you *aren’t* okay with it because you think I’ve given up on trying to help blacks.

You have a very valid point here, and it’s one that I hadn’t necessarily thought of. Thank you for explaining!

However, I think there has also been a miscommunication. (link to whole post)

Here’s what’s going on with me being proud of being a “bad racist”:

I’m proud that I was able to look at myself clearly and admit, Yes, this is how you feel when you see black people, and it’s how you’ve felt for a while.

I’m proud that I am finally able to separate “actually a legitimately bad person who is very harmfully racist” from “just someone who my abuser thinks is a racist”.

I’m proud that I don’t have to constantly worry about what other people will think of me, and that I’ve finally thought my way out of sj.

I’m proud that I’ve confronted what I feared most (being a racist).

I’m proud that I was able to recognize my emotions in general- the dissociation and guilt/shame associated with Her, the intense self-loathing I had begun to develop, the anxiety caused by constant self-criticism, and yes, the secret fear of black people. I spent a long time ignoring them and denying that they exist - this might be something to do with alexythmia, or maybe just certain thought complexes associated with sj.

Of course, to someone looking in this would look at lot like “lol I hate black people”, especially, when, um, I literally said something like “lol I hate black people”.

My intention behind this was to say, “So, ex-friend, I’m someone you would call a racist. I’m someone you would accuse of hating black people. But I don’t actually endorsedly hate black people, obviously, and I’m done adhering to your standards for who I should be. I’m illustrating this by showing how absurd it is that you might think I endorsedly hate black people. Also, I do legitimately unendorsedly hate black people and you’re the reason why.”

So yeah, anon, sorry about 1) any unclarity there or 2) any negative effects it’s had on you.

However: I have repeatedly stated that I believe that people should have their own spaces where they can say things like “fuck white people” and “die cis scum”, preferably tagged for things like “racism cw” and “cisphobia cw”. This is because I believe in the concept of safe spaces for competing access needs. The same holds true here.

So I’m not sorry for being honest about my emotions, or for confronting my fears.

Do you know what it means for an emotion to be unendorsed vs endorsed? Because I think a lot of your upsetness stems from there-

Unendorsed is when you feel or think something, but you actually know it’s completely wrong. Like, if you really like ice cream you might think, “There is literally no one in the entire universe who doesn’t love ice cream exactly as much as I do.” And then you would realize, “Well, actually, that’s completely untrue and I shouldn’t assume that everyone else is exactly like me.” But you can also realize that this thought has legitimate roots - that you really like ice cream and associate it with your grandmother - and you can also listen to it without judging yourself.

Endorsed is when you feel or think something, and upon further consideration you’re like Holy shit I’m completely correct. Like, if you care lots about ~becoming immortal~ you might think “Death is the worst thing ever and we need to put it at the top of our list of Stuff To Cure.” And then you would think back on this and realize “Yep, death is definitely the worst thing ever.”

My hatred of black people is unendorsed, but I’ve investigated it and realized it’s a pattern-matching defense mechanism in reaction to having been abused, or at least severely mistreated. I wish, anon, that you would stop dismissing my experiences with abuse as minor. They were not. They aren’t an excuse or a logical reason for hating black people, but they are significant and they are an emotional reason. I am not perfectly logical; I am affected by pattern-matching and bias just as much as anyone else.

I have clearly stated that I don’t endorsedly blame black people as as whole for this, and I have no idea where you would have gotten that interpretation.

If you’d give a woman abused by a man some leeway with her misandry, then you ought to do the same for me. (Also, note that I use this framing because I think you, anon, will be most compelled by it, not because I’m ignoring the degree to which women abuse men, which is comparable in scope to male-on-female abuse.)

I however do endorse my hatred of Her, and I endorse pride in my ability to recognize my emotions and dictate my own morality.

Ultimately, it was extremely important to me to be able to admit to and reclaim and to be proud of this pain; and to recognize the fear and hatred while also committing eventually eliminating my own antiblack racism. And that brings me to the next point, which is that-

I think at the root we agree on something quite important: we both want to have an end result of me not (unendorsedly) hating black people anymore.

I don’t know what to do, but I’ve gotten some suggestions, mostly along the lines of “find black people who aren’t extremely into sj and who are generally kinder people, and become friends with them”. This is a good idea, since it would decrease my threat assessment when I see black people so that my emotions are more in step with reality. Kind of like exposure therapy.

I could also try to establish thought patterns that automatically appear whenever I start on a fear/guilt/shame spiral. I’m going to try to do that sometime soon.

I also disagree with your statements about what I can or should not do.

I am in fact able to value black people, as you can see with my willingness to do things for black people like “calling members of Congress about police brutality” and “donating money to some kind of cause” and “donating money to AMF”. If I did not abstractly value black people I would not care about their civil rights and lives.

You’re correct that my fear of blacks could create a bias against listening to them. However, now that I recognize this bias, I can try to correct against it by e.g. seeking out black perspectives for reading and consideration. For example, right now I’m reading Sister Outsider, by Audre Lorde, and I’m not only passively listening but also trying to engage with and evaluate her arguments. (It is a very interesting book.)

Again, I want to become stronger! Tsuyoku naritai. I want to be able to stretch myself and to become less scared of black people. I want to be able to take risks on my own terms, and to take care of myself while doing so. (This is relevant to e.g. the dignity of risk and the ability to set your own boundaries.)

I want to help social justice, real social justice. And I think that I could handle it /if/ it was safe- again, it’s like exposure therapy, a controlled environment with people I trust, who deserve my trust. Unfortunately, there is a certain dearth of communities like this that I can access right now.

Finally, you say that I think that no one can criticize me for my racism because it’s due to scrupulosity.

In some sense, this is in fact true. I do not support criticizing people for talking about their unendorsed emotions/feelings. If you want to vent about my unendorsed feelings, I would suggest that you do it in a space that is not my blog. If you want to eliminate my emotional racism, then you ought to find an actually effective way. Ignoring and guilting myself for it didn’t work in the past. Meeting more black people who aren’t abusive, however, might, as would removing myself from situations with Her.

In another sense, however, I am happy to engage with criticism if it is logically sound and moderately polite, as I am doing now. That doesn’t mean I won’t dismiss it, but it’s also not like you’re not allowed to or like I’m being unkind to you for criticizing me.

In yet another sense, I welcome criticism of my endorsed racism. I just don’t think that I’ve been endorsedly racist lately?

Not sure if you had something else in mind.

Anyway, thanks a lot, anon. I mean this sincerely- I appreciate your effort and your goodwill towards me. :)

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