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[ssaalexblake]

Every time star trek unironically mentions their utopia having penal colonies I remember that at least in star wars they're a sign the empire is evil ffs

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[spockvarietyhour]

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds "Charades" & Star Trek (2009) requested by @frontier001

#Star Trek #star trek strange new worlds #SNW #Star Trek 2009 #nuTrek #AOS Trek #Charades #Charades (episode) #Spock #Sponk #Amanda Grayson #startrekedit #nutrekedit #aostrekedit #snwedit #GIF #my gifs #danny and renae watch snw #Hide and Queue

[fandomshatewomen]

Uhura hate vs Concerned fans? Who is really winning?

In response to SNW Uhura hate, I will like to address this objectively and logically.

1. Admitting it is wrong to hate or bully ceelia gooding.

2. Also saying she is miscast in the role of Uhura. 

I do not condone any hate or racism to any actor. Nonetheless I do believe some actor are not right for a part or sometimes actors are miscast deliberately for a part to push an agenda.

The very first time I saw the promo for snw, I was shocked at the Uhura photos as I could not truly tell if that was meant to be a boy or a girl. having to now accept that, this is meant to be a young Nyota felt too far-fetched.

We should not condone hate. However fans also need space to express genuine  concerns. I do NOT believe that the majority of people that say Ceelia Gooding is miscast hate her. they don’t just think she is right for the role and I agree.

SNW will never have cast a  Danny DeVito or a Jason Alexander actor in the role as Spock. They also would never have cast a Rosie O'Donnell as T-Pring or Chapel or Una. I love all these actors but they will be 100% wrong for some trek roles. This is the same with Ceelia Gooding as Uhura, an actress who may also be undergoing gender hormone therapy as a non-binary actor. It makes sense that Uhura looks very androgynous on the show, she is played by a non binary actor.

Sometimes even with racism, some actors still fit the part that could not be denied. Look at Halle Bailey, despite not been white she was still a perfect casting of Ariel in the little mermaid. This is not the case with Ceelia Gooding. There is nothing about her that is similar to TOS Uhura or what made Uhura Iconic.



Alright friend, you caught me on a day when I've got some extra time and spoons so I'm gonna try and engage with your message under the assumption of good faith (but to be clear, with all due respect, framing your message as "objective" and "logical" is giving big dogwhistle energy...)

Quick piece of context setting, I'm mostly familiar with Star Trek media through social osmosis and not personally watching the movies or tv shows, but I would say I'm familiar enough for a general conversation. I also did about 30min of additional research to double check my info but if I get some details wrong, that's why.

For anyone unfamiliar, Strange New Worlds (SNW) is a prequel to the original series of Star Trek (TOS) so they feature a handful of the same characters.

Now, you say there is "nothing about [Celia Gooding] that is similar to TOS Uhura or what made Uhura iconic." I think there's plenty about Gooding that is similar to Nichelle Nichols/TOS Uhura. They are both black, they are both relatively femme presenting, neither is visibly physically disabled, and they are pretty close to the same height (5ft5in vs 5ft8in). So then are you upset that SNW Uhura wears her hair short? Or are you upset that she wears pants and a tunic style jacket as her standard costume rather than sheer tights and a dress that barely covers her butt?

As an aside, "iconic" is a wholly subjective category but I don't disagree that Uhura is an iconic character. That being said, since you point out that quality, if you're up for sharing, I'm curious what you think made TOS Uhura iconic that is so different with SNW Uhura.

To quickly address your counter example, sure, if Danny Devito were cast in a prequel role to Leonard Nimoy's Mister Spock, that would strain credulity. But let me ask you this -- do you *really* see the same level of difference between the visual presentation of Danny Devito vs Leonard Nimoy and Celia Gooding vs Nichelle Nichols? Really? Let me grab a few pictures just to be sure we're all seeing the same people...

(image description: two photos, both featuring two men standing side by side; on the left is Danny Devito, a shorter heavy-set man, with George Clooney, a much taller and slim man; on the right is Leonard Nimoy with Jim Parsons, they are both tall and slim /end id)

(image description: two photos, both featuring femme-presenting individuals standing alone and looking into the camera; the one on the left is wearing a silky red ball gown with a deep-v neckline that shows off their boobs, they are wearing light makeup and some jewelry and their dark hair is buzzed short; the one on the right is wearing a glittery gold ball gown that has two high slits to show off her legs, she is also wearing some makeup and jewelry and her longer fluffier hair is styled in an updo typical of the 1960s /end id)

Look.......... the only specific/clear(ish) objections you've raised about Gooding getting cast in this role are about her appearance. As I have hopefully sufficiently demonstrated, I think those concerns are unfounded. If you have issues with the narrative/plot/character development for SNW Uhura, your problem should be with the writers and not with Celia.

If you're up for a little self reflection, try and get more specific about what bothers you so much about the situation. Connecting some dots here, you said SNW Uhura is too different from TOS Uhura to be acceptable to you, but you did not raise the same concerns about Ethan Peck as SNW Spock, even though he's also different from Leonard Nimoy as TOS Spock. What's the difference in the differences that makes one of these fine and one of these not?

•mod dyr

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adding this photo i found of nichelle and leonard bc its so sweet <3

#star trek #star trek strange new worlds #star trek snw #st snw #snw #snw uhura #celia gooding #celia rose gooding #long post #p.s. if you want to follow up regarding the questions i've asked here i am open to continuing the conversation! #p.p.s. why did you misspell her name every time like that?

[dutchessofcaladan]

This is a video of Danny's Live to Film Nightmare Before Christmas concert from last night celebratingNightmare's 30th anniversary. Skip to the part where he's performing Kidnap the Sandy Klaws with Riki Lindhome and Fred Armisen.

This is Danny performing that same song with Catherine O'Hara and Paul Rubens back in 2015.

After watching both, you can't convince me Danny wasn't on the verge of an anxiety attack every time he wasn't singing in the performance with Riki and Fred. That was honestly the stiffest performance I've seen from him and it honestly made me feel bad for him. It didn't even feel like I was watching Danny anymore. It felt like he'd been replaced with Anson Mount and had Danny's voice dubbed over (fans of SNW's Subspace Rhapsody, you guys know what I'm talking about). I also agree with a comment made on another video of the performance of KtSK featuring Riki and Fred that Armisen looked "lifeless" while performing.

#danny elfman #the nightmare before christmas 30th anniversary #the nightmare before xmas #the nightmare before christmas #riki lindhome #fred armisen #kidnap the sandy claws #catherine o'hara #paul reubens #poor danny #Youtube

[ssaalexblake]

La'an's severe hair style and demeanour and thick eyeliner wings that are so sharp they could kill absolutely delivers a statement on how she wishes to be perceived by those around her, and I wonder if it annoys her that she's also so damn cute!!!!

la'an: i am the night!!! i am darkness!!! i am a hardass!!

also la'an: is objectively adorable

#danni watches snw #snw

[ssaalexblake]

Manu Noonien-Singh here being an absolute hero of a big brother here while also proving that being an older brother in this show is a fatal concept.

#danni watches snw #snw #i have to joke bc it's sad #he's just a kid and he just doomed himself to a terrible fate to save his terrified baby sister #he didn't even know it'd work #he wouldn't know she'd get to properly live after this #it's very depressing haaaa ha

[ssaalexblake]

Love how Starfleet has temporal cops but they're very selective about what they choose to show up for.

Pike blabbing to lots of people his future? Eh whatever

Mariner and boimler? Yeah who cares

First contact shenanigans? Well technically they may not exist there idk it's complicated

#danni watches snw #trek shit

[ssaalexblake]

i was abt to say that la'an is So small but they fit so much trauma in her, but then i realised that she might not be that small, it's just that she's always standing next to Una.

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[ssaalexblake]

Knowing Una's backstory better now, knowing what Lengths she's gone to and what bridges she's burnt to hide this, what lengths her parents went to despite the suffering it caused her for having to hide what she is, that she just comes out with it to M'Benga and Chapel is a lot more than it was to me on my first watch.

Una's the hardass superior you have that Will give you shit for weeks if she catches you playing solitaire at work but if you have a real problem or are in trouble she'd put her whole ass on the line to help.

#danni watches snw #snw #trek shit

[ssaalexblake]

Am amused that Scotty pronounced lieutenant the British way and La'An immediately counters with the American way

#snw spoilers #danni watches snw #la'an got all americanised #(i find this really funny for reasons past my understanding)

[ssaalexblake]

La'an: we're all gonna die horribly

Pike: maybe a bit less doom and gloom. Lighter on the fatalism. Try to inspire instead of telling people they will expire.

La'an: we're Probably all gonna die horribly.

Pike: good enough I guess

#snw #danni watches snw #ok turning it off now but this was basically it lbr #La'an be a bit less intense pls ur scaring the kids #okay captain we're only Likely to die horribly it's not s foregone conclusion

[ssaalexblake]

my new thing lately is watching tv show credits to see what each show named the people they hired to deal with covid issues, and snw apparently had covid observers.

there have to be better names for these jobs. Unless they hired people to sit and stare, in which case, great name!

#danni watches snw #trek shit

[ssaalexblake]

Objectively the tragedy of La'an being attached to a dead man who has never existed but also exists right next to her speaks to me, because this is the kind of tragedy I eat up with a spoon.

But with no objectivity La'an is my blorbo and the writers deserve being whacked with a steel chair for Not Giving Her Nice Things 😡

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[ssaalexblake]

Hi friends La'An finally getting to a point where she learns to live and not just survive after everything and then GETTING CAPTURED BY THE GORN?

#danni watches snw #snw spoilers #time to hunt the writers for sport

[ssaalexblake]

Uhura deliberately chucking Spock in with chapel in the bar to intentionally trigger a musical number is beautifully diabolical I love her

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[ssaalexblake]

M’Benga and Chapel were in starfleet m*a*s*h 

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