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[ikkleosu]

I have seen your tweets about the spin off. You seem really positive that Melissa is coming back, but I'm so confused by it? Why do you feel so hopeful? I don't want to get my hopes up and be heartbroken all over again.

I wouldn't say I'm "hopeful" I just think for me looking at all the evidence it seems very likely. Other people think differently and that's absolutely okay for them. But if you want to know WHY I think the evidence is in favour, I shall detail it so you can make up your own mind.

So, yesterday Angela Kang commented this

And she's right, when she said "we've all" she meant it. Most of the people involved in the show have said Melissa will be back, though most have not specified the show.

Gimples quote is the one most alluding to non-Caryl stuff:

However, the others are more about Caryl together:

(THIS IS A LONG IMAGE HEAVY POST WITH LOTS OF INFO!)

Nicotero hinted very strongly at Carol going after Daryl:

And then of course there's Norman. He has literally staked his reputation (such as it is) on them reuniting and promised until he's blue in the face that is happening.

Of course he could be lying, however how would that serve him? It would make him more obviously a liar, make those who do still trust him lose that trust and just anger his already thinning fanbase.

And most importantly, Melissa herself said she would be back:

This was only the first step of evidence that has been ever evolving since. The main one of course being Joao on YouTube. The Brazilian youtuber has a very solid track record of spoilers - he had several call sheets from season 11. I can't find the translation of his video, but Hanna summed it up here: https://mcbride.tumblr.com/post/702367502037057536/daryl-spinoff-carol-rumorsspoilers The gist being that Melissa would return to the spin-off either at the end of s1 or start of s2, and that season 2 would have her as a main character, and s2 would start filming back to back with s1 in March 2023.

Many didn't believe Joao, however over time all he's said is proving true.

The showrunner's WGA page shows he is showrunning 2 seasons and employed at least until 2025:

And now, Duane Manwiller has confirmed that yes they are filming the seasons back to back:

And the info we have fits with Joao saying the season 2 filming starts in March.

Early casting calls for returning characters had them listed until Feb:

That seems to indicate one story ending in Feb and another starting in March. We know they are still filming s1 in February from this:

And it looks like they are reaching the end of the season by mid-Feb as those casting calls suggested, given episode 5 appeared to start filming on 20 Jan:

We also now have casting calls for March, and a filming location for 4 week. Given eps are normally filmed over 2 weeks (or so) that does scream of a s1 cliffhanger and s2 resolution:

So given ALL the information that Joao gave in his video about the timing and season 2 has now been proven correct, stands to reason it makes it MUCH more likely the connected information - that Melissa is returning - is also correct.

Now in terms of the negatives, or questions I have seen people posting which make them think it can't be true, here's my answers.

If Melissa can come to France to film now, why couldn't she before?

Two key phrases to note here - 1) "at this time" 2) "filmed in Europe this summer". Filming was delayed by at least 4 months, and while Melissa may not have been able to travel to Europe then, she very well could be NOW. It very much appears from this statement - which she would have approved - that it was a timing/logistics issue.

This seems backed up by this phrasing from Kang, which also agrees with Joao's statement that it was always the plan to get her back:

"Were", past tense.

Also, it's entirely possible that neither she, nor the production will be STAYING in France.

Early on in production, a crew member's partner said they'd be in France until March/April:

(Source: DearTvShow)

If they are just filming season 1 final mid-Feb, it seems highly unlikely they are going to complete a second season by April. Thus, it seems likely they are only filming a couple of episodes of s2 in France.

It's very possible then that Melissa can do s2 because it WON'T be filmed entirely in France.

2) If Melissa is returning why haven't AMC announced it?

Well, that is a question, and obviously I don't know the answer. Yes, I agree it would make more sense if they did. BUT I can see logical reasons why they might not:

they might be gun shy in announcing anything until Melissa's filming is in the can, after what previously happened

they might not want to overshadow Norman's "epic" solo first season

they might think that a surprise appearance by Carol is a bigger impact

And they have precedence for this, when Morgan returned in season 5, it was kept totally secret and Lennie James went to great lengths to remain hidden - traveling under a false name, staying in a different town etc: https://youtu.be/UParJyrTqIg

3) If Melissa is returning, why haven't we seen her filming yet?

Have you met Melissa? LOL We know Melissa has ALWAYS been the queen ninja of filming. Even location shooting like the beach from 10x01, where fans ONLY saw Norman and Lauren Ridloff interacting and never saw Melissa.

But also, she wouldn't have been filming until this week anyway, as it seems likely they just NOW are getting to the s1 finale. And whose to say she isn't on set now, filming, hidden away and using a pseudonym?

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[jdmorganz]

I'm learning real fast you can't interact with The Walking Dead fandom at all. I was on a forum called DearTVShow and I shared an opinion that people didn't like, so they kept incorrectly quoting something I said and I explained several times what I said, but clearly they were anti Negan fans. Not once did I call anyone names. Not once did I say anything wrong. I multiple times stated that I think everyone had the right to an opinion, but I'm assuming they are just a group full of friends there and an admin told me I was ugly and disrespectful and deserved the way people were talking to me. Seriously if that's how you admin or moderate a forum, you need to get your shit together. You shouldn’t be biased when you are an admin or moderator. I was singled out for simply being a Negan fan and they made it severely obvious. I'm exceedingly respectful of other people's opinions and never would tell anyone they are wrong about how they feel over fiction so I'm blown away how awful the twd fandom has been to interact with lately. This will be my last rant about fandoms because I'm going to stop interacting with fandoms because they kind of suck. Sorry for ranting, I'm just blown away by how people are acting lately.

#rant #personal #off topic #the walking dead

[twdmusicboxmystery]

Oh Emily is traveling! And according to DearTVShow, they are about to start filming episode 8! Beth back for the first cliffhanger?

You know, @wdway’s theory is that we’ll see her in the MSF. She found some numerical evidence for it. So you could be onto something with that. *fingers crossed*. Xoxo!  ❣️

#beth greene #beth greene lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #td theory #td theories #team delusional #team defiance #beth is almost here #bethyl

[wolfwhiteflowers]

10x16+, Connie, and NM thoughts

We got spoilers from DearTVshow about the finale...or ep 16.

So #TWDSpoilers ... about Caryl, *NM*, Connie, etc.!

*pro Caryl post.

ok yeah I have a lot more thoughts from the TWD news and spoilers. okaaay. 

So from DTV, the source said Connie is alive but only audience knows and it’s real quick.

--“I’m told that no one knows Connie is alive when the viewers first see her. Also, Carol & Daryl make up, with a hug, but no canon. And New Mexico is mentioned once again.”

--“Caryl has a big reunion hug on par with ‘No Sanctuary’. Daryl asks if her revenge is done. And she says "Well, I’ll never have what I want"

Daryl then says: "You have me...and New Mexico is out there still." And then Carol says “they have some things to do first”  

Ok my first thought is that I was surprised to learn Connie was alive and was thinking what are the writers are doing with the Connie/Magna cave plot and what will they do with Connie later on. Long ago, I made a post that I’m like in the middle of what I want with Connie. Still am, I guess, I hope writers write Connie like a Sasha than like a Beth. Sasha is more like a her own character and isn’t propping for a ship. Anyway I hope it means we get more sister bonding with Connie and Kelly. Idk what s11 will be like but just want smart and respectful writing. 

So, with that C/M cave plot, it then makes me worried about Magna and other fans are worried about Kelly (kill off sister pairing trope). But in the finale spoilers/pictures, it seems they’re also both safe too!   I think so...I think Magna is safe. There’s a promo pic of her after the horde moment. I think that instagram pic from GN of walkers eating a person is Beatrice(Oceanside lady). I think I saw someone pointed out she got the same bright blue shirt on. Anyway, yeah that crazy cave-plot is done with and is dumb. No one died from it..from TWD a horror show lol. It’s all really ends up being a plot to make Caryl/Carol angst, which the s10 is mostly about.

Like I thought, if Connie is alive it would be a short scene based on filming tracking. And therefore it’s a short scene for Connie reveal. I’m surprised only fans will learned about it. Maybe she's at Commonwealth idk and in 10C or s11 the comic plot of Michonne reuniting with her daughter will play out but with Connie and Kelly. I guess that’s what will happen but sigh ..it’s like down playing the comic version. Plus ..they kinda ruin the surprise too..? (Sorry.. it’s just comic Michonne’s story and that plot was everything. But I guess TV Michonne will do something like that too. Whatever.. from the comics it was so meaningful for comic-Michonne!) 

Anyway, the more I think about Connie’s alive reveal the more it’s like meh. It’s like writers just...still ..write her like a minor character. Idk if they could’ve done more or not but meh. She’s alive but no one knows...so ... no one cares? We get closures from characters, we get Caryl forgiving each other, but they don’t know about Connie. It’s like it doesn’t matter Connie lives or not, character’s stories are fine. I also think ..to think of s10B of Connie’s story, she doesn’t have that good ending in s10. It’s like half there and meh. Maybe other characters will mention Connie in ep 16, it would be a nice lil wrap up for Connie fans. I’m just saying it’s kinda crap writing for Connie fans. But whatever, she’s alive and there’s 10C. Eh. I hope the real reveal scene on the show will be better..like she’s at Commonwealth so then it’s like moving the plot forward. 

ETA. spoiler from instagram, Connie is revealed alive and wakes up and sees Virgil ..in time to save her I guess. That’s it...I guess. I’m glad there’s more to move the plot. But Idk where Virgil and Connie will go to..or when? Maybe they show up in ASZ later. Oh I guess we won’t get mentions of Michonne in ep 16. It would be later I guess when they’re in ASZ to talk about Michonne and the plan on finding Rick. eh wish it was on ep 16. So about Caryl. I'm so glad Caryl will talk it out and he mentions NM!  Even when they don't know about Connie being alive. It's a real forgiving scene between them. Someone said that he was mostly upset in 10b because of Carol’s actions and it’s proves..that it is what is about. Seriously s10 is so Caryl - season. Daryl is all about Carol this season. omg. shoo haters. (haters are weird..can they be real and if they don’t like how it’s going ..i mean if it’s me, I would’ve quit the show.) Anyway, I’m like LOL at the haters. I just omg like from the spoilers, Caryl forgave each other, made up, had a great hug, Daryl saying “you have me ..and let’s go to NM.”, all while they think Connie’s dead. sheesh. It really doesn’t look good for DCon shippers. whatever. 

I’m curious how the Caryl scene will go and all and how s11 will go. :3 So yeah they got stuff to do first = which makes me think of how s11 is the final season and writers got stuff to do. Wrap up character stories and stuff. Idk what they will do with them and Grimes kids and whatever the main story/Rick’s story will go. Also s11 is a long season and idk what they’ll do. Plus s10C lol. I can’t speculate.  

They mentioned NM again! My thoughts on “New Mexico”. Since we learned about the spoilers and the spin-off show, the moment is a clear foreshadowing moment. Like for real, they will run away together. It’s not some end of the series idea wishful hopeful moment. idk the word. Like they’re legit leaving ASZ. 

So the more I think about it and I’m just wondering why “New Mexico”? It just seems oddly already answered or so. Like ok here’s a plot and let’s go. I wish there’s some reason or build up to it why NM. Idk. Maybe Daryl will explain more why he wants to go there.  I also think, unpopular opinion?, maybe they won’t go to NM but it’s the idea~~ and that NM means they will travel away together. I’m speculating about the overall story of TWD/Rick movies ..., so maybe the writers want Caryl to travel and help out in some way for Rick/’s plan, in the spin-off show. Maybe part of CRM is in like Texas, so Caryl is like well ok we’ll do it, we’ve been wanting to travel so let’s go to Texas.   Or, it’s in s11 finale when Idk everyone kinda knows about Rick and CRM situation, maybe like Michonne will say (idk) we need someone to find supporters for Rick against CRM elsewhere-NM or Michonne will say Rick is out there in the west somewhere, we need someone to search for him in the west, Caryl is like let’s go to NM first.

I also wonder how spin-off is the Caryl spin-off show is. Will it only be Caryl-shippy? The Dixons-with Lydia and Dog? or Caryl and Grimes kids too? Caryl and others from s10-not so shippy/drag on slowburn? So far I’m leaning toward Caryl - shippy and (maybe Lydia, Grimes kids and Dog) will be there. I actually want Caryl with Grimes kids and Lydia and Dog. But idk. sigh TWD overall planning there... What about the kids?

Idk. It’s all whatever writers want to do with Rick’s story, s11 and the spinoff show. It’s all hard to predict and kinda hard to not get hopes up ahh.  I can kinda imagine Daryl giving Dog to Connie in s11 if Dog is not included in Caryl spin-off show. I think Grimes kids could stay with Maggie, Aaron, or others at Commonwealth or ASZ. Idk about Lydia, maybe she stays in ASZ or Hilltop. 

#caryl #twd spoilers #anti d0nnie #twd caryl #caryl and nm #c0nnie twd #*twd #twd speculations

[skulleemonster]

Yeah...so DearTVShow is trash. Somehow shitting on Jeff's family is a valid opinion because of "Oversaturation" but yet these same people would ban others and cry out misogyny just because they hate Carol and Daryl. God they really are just a sugar coated version of TSDF

[ikkleosu]

Acuna Matata

Or the fall out from the latest Kirsten Acuna article. I won’t paste any of it here, but anyway after reading the ACTUAL transcript several times, I do feel I got a bit of a handle on the Reedus word soup. And I thought I’d share it here (crossposted to deartvshow because I am lazy)

Having read it all several times now, i do think I MIGHT understand what Norman is trying to say... The fact he lumps Connie and Leah together in the first answer, about things he wishes were different is telling. We KNOW he did not want the Leah story at all, yet here he is saying it would have been better with more time on it. So that seems a contradiction, but I don't think it is. I think what he is saying is that, if you are going to do these relationships - whatever they are - do them right. Explain them. It seems like he really wanted to explore WHy Daryl bonded with Connie, he respects her and is quickly connected with her, despite being such a guarded person, why? Let's explore why, why he respects her, why Carol looks and see something more than he has with other people. That doesn't mean it's romance. In the same way, if you are going to do the Leah story, do it justice. explain WHy Leah and not any other woman before. Explain what was going on that made Daryl make those choices. Explain the dynamics of that relationship. So when Daryl reunites with Connie and he has butterflies, let's talk about what this relationship is, let's have them discuss their feelings or situation. And not just refer to it with Carol commenting. I said on twitter yesterday in reply to Shae, that Connie's feelings have been made entirely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Connie likes Daryl romantically or not, because that isn't the story. The story is only does Daryl like her. They are taking away Connie's agency hugely, and they are even taking away Daryl's. It's just Carol telling him he likes Connie and should do something about it and Daryl being like meh. And then he talks about Carol in the same way - he wants the deep conversations where Carol really gets to his heart and he opens up. Not even about Their relationship, but about everything. And he's clearly not getting those kind of scenes. Not with carol, not with anyone. It sounds as though he is sick of the teases. He's saying if you are going to do these relationships, do them properly. Whether he wants them or not, he wants them done in an authentically, thorough way. Not via a third part in 20 second scenes over 2 years. IMo it bodes well for the spin-off. He says the excuses for not getting these kinds of scenes is because of the big cast, big stories etc. They can't make those excuses in the spin-ff, and him saying in an earlier interview that he felt he needed the spin-off to do Daryl justice suggests he's doing it because he WILL get these scenes he wants. I am assuming right now he and Melissa are producers and will get story approval, so finally he'll get the Caryl scenes he wants to have.

#caryl #twd #god what else to tag this? #Norman says