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#ephemeral was my absolute least favorite episode of the season
spittyfishy · 3 months
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What did you think of Season 5 of ML, if you have seen it?
So, I have seen season 5 and frankly… I wasn’t a fan.
Season 5 was just chocked full of missed opportunities, because there were some interesting ideas there but the show's writing fumbled the execution so hard it was difficult to watch at times. Just seeing character assasination after character assasination unfold on screen was so unpleasant. I don’t think a single character came out of season 5 unscathed, I’m wracking my brain for anyone that got better this season, or at least didn’t get worse in some way, and I can’t think of any.
To be fair, there were a few bits I liked. A couple akuma designs were good (Hoaxer, Dark Humour, Queen Mayor, and Ryukomori). I thought the Ryukomori episode was well done, I’d probably say it was the best of the season (which is a low bar). But everything else with Kagami was bad. Full honesty I hate Felix and what his role in the story has been so far, but I especially don’t like that Kagami got brought down with him. Felix is the entire reason Hawkmoth got EVERY OTHER MIRACULOUS and it seems like everyone forgot that?? He didn’t get any consequences At All, and yet when Chloé worked with Hawkmoth (when he already had the miraculous for the record) she was painted as the worst person on earth.
I know I’m not the only one who’s pointed out the double standard between how the girl characters are treated compared to the boys, but it really got highlighted this season. Male characters like Andre, Jaggedstone, Felix, and even Hawkmoth himself can do any number of horrible things and still be ‘sympathetic’, but the two fourteen year old girls are irredeemably evil?
I’ll admit I'm biased, Chloé has been my favourite favorite character since I started watching in season one, but she really deserved better than the show gave her. I don’t have an issue with her staying a villain, in fact I think she worked really well as a minor antagonist in season one, she moved the story along and was entertaining to watch. But the last two seasons they’ve made her out to be this giant threat, but haven’t let her actually do anything! She’s been nothing more then a lacky to Lila and Hawkmoth, as far as having Lila in her ear telling her exactly what to say. If Chloé is as bad as the show claims then she shouldn’t need other characters to hold her hand and tell her how to be mean.
But the writing is just like that. They really need to get better at ‘show don’t tell’, and even more importantly, consistency. Because they keep adding things after the fact and retconning things from the earlier seasons to try and clap back at fans criticisms, and it’s just sad. I’ll never stop complaining about the absolute train wreck that was Derision. They made Chloé worse then she was in season one, and made Kim so much dumber then he needed to be. At the beginning of season one Kim was characterized as a bully, he antagonized Ivan in Stone Heart and helped Chloé willingly in episodes like LadyWifi. But for Derision Chloé had to trick him into pranking Marinette? Why?
The pacing in that episode was even worse, because so much of it was dedicated to a flash back everything else was rushed at the end. And Marinette saying she’d never crush on anyone again if she didn’t know everything about them was clearly just the writers trying to justify her frankly creepy actions in earlier seasons because people pointed out that it wasn’t cute or funny it was just weird. And her whole line and issues in that episode flat out don’t work as a retcon because A: why even crush on Adrian at all if she vowed not to like anyone associated with Chloé, and B: we’ve already seen her in a relationship with Luka where she didn’t show ANY of the obsessive behaviour she showed Adrian OR freaking out about going on dates. AND ON TOP OF THAT there’s been two other timelines where her and Adrian have started a relationship (Chat Blanc, Ephemeral) and she hasn’t had any of the issues that come up in Derision.
It’s just such a lazy way of writing the story, and that’s really the core issue with this season. It feels lazy, like the writers couldn’t be bothered to watch their own show and make plots that fit in the world they’ve already built.
Miraculous is a franchise that’s dear to my heart, it’s how I met my best friend and really became comfortable sharing my art online, and I still really like creating content related to the characters, but I’ve been very disappointed in the show since about the end of season three. I still have a small amount of hope that maybe the show will turn itself around and improve, but it’s dwindling.
But at least when cannon goes off it’s rocker that’s what fan works are for!
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pixie-mask · 2 years
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poor Gabriel stream of conscious ramble ahead.
Its been an interesting journey with for Gabriel. Much like another questionable father I went from hating the guy to loving the guy. However unlike the other father Gabriel has...done not much to improve as much as he could, though that strongly comes off as the writer’s fault. Like they didn't make the already strained relationship feel completely natural in the way it absolutely dropped despite the attempted moments of connections between the two. It feels more sudden and not naturally gradual, but anyway onto my main point. [Like RIP and farewell to my favorite moment.]
Okay with Evolution having happened and with the way it ended I need to going into a few things. First of all when Gabriel and Nathalie eventually meet again it’s going to be very awkward and tense and it’s a matter of what happens next. I don’t think it would be good for Nathalie to instantly go back to aiding Gabriel with his Hawk Moth deeds not to mention it would be good writing (...) for what is a really good step progress. Yet I do believe that she will still be working with the Agreste Brand, but only for Adrien’s sake, though how she even proceeds there is up in the air.
But as much as I don’t like how they had Gabriel act in terms to the USB. At the same time...I can sort of see it? Kinda of. I think it might be because I really don’t like how Ephemeral Gabriel chose to abandon the presentation of his 100th collection to akumatize Bob. Especially cause the collection was a dedication to Emilie who we know he (at least feels like) pretty much deifies her. But despite what that episode showed it kind of flows into Evolution in that with the way things have been going. Although his goal is (or should) be to bring back Emilie he has become somewhat more obsessed with besting Ladybug. Like to the point that in the episode after being told off by Nathalie and when his anger finally boils over, he doesn’t simply scream. Something that would have been great, emotional and character appropriate; but he instead screams (also character appropriate as of now) Ladybug’s name as if it was her fault cause that’s just where he is and has been going. Every failure is Ladybug’s fault even when it’s moments of him getting greedy or getting ahead of himself. 
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Gabriel isn’t planned to be killed, jailed or redeemed (the later I’m not as happy about but I can easily deal). Though I fear them putting into a coma as well. I feel that not jailing Gabriel at best will be rationalized as for Adrien’s benefit or at Emilie’s request (if she’s actually brought back). Or hell the man might actually end up on the run. But if he remains in Paris with Adrien I feel like he’s just going to recede into himself. 
Like not this closed off manner that he has through out the show like, just go into the depths of his mind and probably not really mentally be there for things. I can see the fashion line going down in quality as he is just sort of going to through the motions. If or any moment he surfaces to interact with the world it’s a strong point of tension. I don’t see Gabriel being able to handle things well. He’d either have one of two reactions when confronted with deserved criticism or with the various mess of his relationships. It’s either a pitiable manner of listening and fumble failing with trying to make amends or with extreme defensive and accusing anger. After which of either he would just contemplate what happened realize his fault and just withdraw back into himself. 
No matter what though this man is going to fall apart this season and I honestly find that so sad and pitiful. I think even if I did still hate him I would feel this way. With Nathalie abandoning him essentially he’s taken a major big step towards that direction. He just lost (again thanks to the failed writing with his and Adrien’s relationship) his biggest support line and the one person that brought across the fact that he’s still very human. 
His relationship with Adrien is gone (as I state multiple times, sorry). Though I think he might have partially realized that in some regard when Felix as Adrien sort of shut Gabriel down. Emilie is still in a coma. Audrey and Tomoe are strictly business relationships. And he has no love for Amelie and Felix. Honestly the only other connection he has is kind of Nooroo. Despite everything Nooroo has on a few occasions, much to Gabriel’s chagrin, hit the nail right on the head when it comes to Gabriel’s emotions. I almost think it’d be ironic if the kwamis start making Gabriel start to partially think somethings through as they are somewhat his new (maybe only, as Nathalie was apparently was in charge of grimoire notes) source on information on Miraculous information and whatever more. 
Either way when Gabriel hits the point of being all alone it will be when things get bad. At the same time though if his sanity and goals continue to go askew he might not even know what to do with the miraculous at the end. It could make sense given that they are trying to fulfill something with Lila and its a little hard to tell what’s going on with Felix, who while a tiny bit of a bastard isn’t really aiming for anything malicious. Nathalie has a goal, but isn’t as aggressive about saving Emilie and has common sense remaining and there’s really no other option, but this is about Gabriel. 
And I think that I’m pretty much done. I think I was going somewhere or somewhere else with this, but I pretty much ran out of fuel so here it is.
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rainbow-arrow · 2 years
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still cannot get over the scene in ephemeral where gabriel overhears his son saying ‘m’lady’ and he fucking somehow determines he’s chat noir based on that. why did we accept that.
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cyberdragoninfinity · 3 years
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Ryou Bakura >:D!!
RYOUUUUUUUU thats him your honor thats the funny little guy thats given me irreparable brainworms
favorite thing about them: i do NOT KNOW what switch flicked in my brain that made me go from 'ryou bakura is boring and not i na fun way' to 'ryou bakura my fuckign SON' but THANK GOD IT DID. there is something just so...endearingly pathetic about him that I just absolutely love. i mean this in the most affectionate of ways. he's going through it so fucking bad but all things considered he's keeping his chin up. :,) he is simultaneously Just Some Guy but also a Total Weird Dude and it's great. i would protect him with my life. also i love that hes a dungeon master....i feel seen.
least favorite thing about them: why is his fashion sense so fucking bad. like it's HILARIOUS but it also makes me unwell. every night i think about the cream s1 catholic school-ass sweater. the cyan/purple plaid from DSOD. the sky blue overshirt that should be a jacket but isnt. buddy please. maybe Let the Spirit take you to get better clothes.
favorite line: "check his pulse, yugi!" is going to hang with me until the day I die. his stupid dub voice is so funny and so..so delightful. i also crack up at "that's quite enough of that" when he smashes into bandit keith during the second episode of season 2.
brOTP: *yearning desperately for ryou and YB to be friends* I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE AHHHHHH really just. any tight friendship with others in the main cast in sweet. i do like ryou and marik being buddies after everything?? not me thinking about them in post canon staying in touch and both missing the spirit of the ring. ahhhhhhhhhh
OTP: ok like i dont. really have one?? i dont feel like ryou needs to be with anyone in the cast. thinking about the indepth post-canon AU i made with my friend where ryou marries some perfectly pleasant guy named Dwight from seattle or something when he's in his late 30's. let him have a painfully average existence after everything he's gone through. idk. absolute push comes to shove, heartshipping and angstshipping are both p cute. can vibe mildly with it
nOTP: i talked about this in my answer for yami bakura but in general, not big on t*ndershipping. much prefer a platonic/brotherly bond with these guys. also oh my GOD i can NOT get into d*athshipping!!!! i cant!!!! idk what it is!!!!!
random headcanon: oh buddy. i could be here all day listing ryou headcanons he has got me in a chokehold and i cant stop thinking about funny little ryou things. one of my favorites i have is "he's not actually The Prettiest Boy in the World, girls at school just heard the accent and went absolutely wild. Hes actually really quite remarkably normal looking." because we all know from experience here on tumblr dot gov that people will go fucking ape for british dudes regardless of anything else. also Generalized Anxiety Disorder IBS Celiac Anemia ryou my friend, my wonderful friend. when it rains it pours.
unpopular opinion: oh my god people want him to be an uwu woobie baby so fucking bad im going to scream. it drives me up a wall!!! the less Smol Bean McNoPersonality ryou is interpreted as, the better. also people REALLY want to go full Hes Soooo Depressed and Sooo Sad and Has No Will to Live with him something and like....WHAT. NO??? HI???? not ideal. not great.
song i associate with them: Hide and Seek by Bug Hunter is the ultimate big one for me. "The ephemeral friend" hits different with this kid.
favorite picture of them: this one, i use it for the cover of my embarrassingly robust bakura pinterest board. it makes me smile :^)
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my beloved pomeranian with problems *gently puts him in my big canvas tote bag*
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Game of Thrones: Ser Jorah star Iain Glen breaks silence on that heartbreaking battle
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By James Hibberd April 30, 2019
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[...] ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I was honestly starting to think they had a figurine in place of you on that pyre because you were so still even between takes. IAIN GLEN: “I know. I slightly drifted off, to be honest. I was aurally saying goodbye. Listening to the GoT set operating. What a vast slick machine it’s become and to hear It orchestrating. I got into it. Everything echoes backwards over the past decade. Trying to let the whole thing go. I feel happy about it. Having been in the pilot and every season I’ve had so many work experiences. [Acting is] an ephemeral beast and you go from one [job] to the other and this is an extraordinary experience that went on for nearly a decade and occupies a big space in the memory bank in your heart.” What was your reaction to learning Ser Jorah’s ending? “You go through a bundle of emotions. Your best indication of what happens is they always list the cast on the first page of each script. I think all six came together at once. First script, yeah, I’m in that one. Second, yeah, I’m in that one. Third, I’m in that one. Fourth, yeah I’m that one — just being a corpse, but I didn’t know that yet. Then fifth, no, I’m not there. Sixth one: Oh no! So I knew I definitely died. Then I read the scripts and I just think they’re so good. I enjoy reading them. I’m as intrigued as anyone to find out what unfolds, whether it’s The Sopranos or Breaking Bad. You know you can’t please everyone all the time but I just think they did it incredibly right, the way they resolve all the various storylines. When I read the nature of his demise it felt right. It was the right conclusion. For eight years in a row, you go, ‘Please, please…’ You just want to stay in the party. You just want to stay on board. Then this season comes and this is the season to go, if you’re going to go. It’s a heroic and satisfying demise. I think [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] were sweetly nervous about everyone’s reaction and their instinct is you’ll be upset that you’re out. So the first thing I did is I went and emailed them and told them how much I loved the scripts. And they said, ‘Aw, you’re a gent.’ And I said, ‘No, I’m really grateful for this conclusion.’” Your character has survived death so many times. You must have thought you had a shot of making it to the end. “You could be a question mark or conclude as a character. The question mark ending is where you get to the end of the whole thing and people try to project forward what his future is that you’ll never know. I’m happy to conclude — particularly, as you say, as somebody who teetered on the edge of going out earlier. I remember when I got greyscale I asked [the producers] if this is it and they said, ‘No, not this season.’ So I thought I was definitely f—ed next season. But they were joshing. It has been a great gig.” Is there anything you wish your character had gotten to do? “Other than the painfully obvious one of making love to Daenerys, way back when, in all honesty, no. It would feel churlish and ungrateful even if I could conjure up something. I’ve always felt very looked after. The whole greyscale journey was not in the original books, and that was something they gifted the character. I could say I wish Jorah expressed himself more, but that’s just not who he was. [The showrunners] always said, slightly joshing, ‘You’re great in silence. We always like having you in a scene when you’re not speaking.’ But they were being sweet. But no, there’s nothing.” What was your favorite scene shot? “If I had to pick, I’d say two: The whole gladiatorial sequence — what was required physically during that sequence for Daenerys’ benefit, trying to win her back. It was a very hard week and I loved doing that. So for the action side of things that sequence encapsulated it. In terms of emotional demands, and feeling satiated, it was probably being rejected by Daenerys when she found out there was a duality to my approach to her. When I came in front of her and she said she told me she never wanted to see me again.”   There’s often been bit sadness there, Jorah pining for Dany all those years when there was always with somebody else. “I don’t know what people perceive. But in my mind, there was a significant shift when he lost her love and made this journey to try and win it back; once he won her favor again and was in her orbit. Of course, there has always been a profound love there but him wanting a reciprocal physical love has gone and he was just happy to be with her.” That’s definitely the vibe on screen. “Good. And being promoted to being the head of her army is where he wanted to be. So Jorah got complete forgiveness and then went out the way he wanted to. I die saving her life and I’ve said that for a good few seasons the nobility of the man is very much within him and he would absolutely sacrifice his life for her to succeed. In a way he was given the conclusion he wanted.” The night shoots for Episode 3 have been super brutal. “It was a real test. Most of this crew of dragon were on 11 weeks and it completely f—s your body clock. You have no life outside it. At least on day shoots you’ll go have a meal in the evening and then you do a bit of something. On night shoots those down hours are removed. You get to sleep at 7 in the morning and wake in midday and you can’t really do anything. It was the most unpleasant experience I’ve had on Thrones; the least enjoyable of all of it.” As I understand it, the more time shooting on these practical sets the less that’s done by special effects and the more realistic it is. “It bleeds through to the reality of the Thrones world. You have an absolute f—ed bunch of actors. But on screen it’s horrible and dirty and dark and cold; it’s really miserable. Without getting too method about it, it bleeds onto the screen.” What was working with director Miguel Sapochnik like? “Miguel is an animal. I don’t know how he does it — to stay as engaged as fresh as he is with the weight on his shoulders. He takes care of each individual storyline so well. This kind of episode can get lost in action. If [the episode is] not telling an emotional story then it’s not going to be half as good. Everybody is fighting for a personal reason and he tries to imbue every moment in that. It’s phenomenal.”
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