#louis is upset with his relationship with claudia not what happened with lestat

[nashvillethotchicken]

some of you all really think louis and claudia got together in november 1917 and said "you know what would be so funny? if you wrote in your personal diaries that you didnt think anyone would read about how we were abused by lestat even though I wasnt/was exaggerating/ was the actual abuser so we could trick a bunch of white people in 100 years to sell a book and so I can kill myself. that'd be hilarious" and i need you to use your brains for literally 15 seconds

#think nigga think!!! #why would anyone lie about that? why lie in private journals written at the time? #yall wanna make lestat the victim here so bad literally why would anyone lie about that #amc iwtv #interview with the vampire #iwtv #louis de pointe du lac #lestat de lioncourt #ldpdl #iwtv 2022 #iwtv claudia #claudia iwtv #any for anyone whos gonna bring up the torn out pages of the diaries remember where they were placed in the episodes #louis is upset with his relationship with claudia not what happened with lestat #like i need everyone to be real!

[elrondsscribe]

Okay so here’s the thing. I freely admit I am Big Stupid. I forget things constantly. The Vampire Chronicles is a layered tale packed with constant retcons and gaps getting filled. Whole chunks of characters’ stories slip my mind on the reg.

So I understand I may be missing something major.

But.

From where I’m standing … I know that Armand was v upset when it happened, and given everything he’d been through to that point he’s absolutely allowed to be upset; but did Marius do wrong by turning Sybelle and Benjamin?

Hear me out: the rule of this universe wrt humans who tango with vampires is there’s only three eventual outcomes: death, madness, or vampirism. Obvs if Armand had his choice at that point in the series he’d have preferred them to have regular human lifespans and eventually die, but 1) given his history with Daniel, who knows if he wouldn’t eventually have changed his mind, and 2) it might not have been what they necessarily wanted for themselves. Cause the way both Sybelle and Benji talk makes it sound like they might’ve actually asked Marius to get vamped??

(And Pandora? Or wtf was Pandora even doing while all this was happening? She was there, what was she doing?)

Because here’s their response to it:

(…) Sybelle rose from the piano, and with her arms out ran to me. And Benji, who had been watching all the while, rushed to me also, and they imprisoned me gently in their tender arms.

“Oh, Armand, don’t be angry, don’t be, don’t be sad,” Sybelle cried softly against my ear. “Oh, my magnificent Armand, don’t be sad, don’t be. Don’t be cross. We’re with you forever.”

“Armand, we are with you! He did the magic,” cried Benji. “We didn’t have to be born from black eggs, you Dybbuk, to tell us such a tale! Armand, we will never die now, we will never be sick, and never hurt and never afraid again.” He jumped up and down with glee and spun in another mirthful circle, astonished and laughing at his new vigor, that he could leap so high and with such grace. “Armand, we are so happy.”

“Oh, yes, please,” cried Sybelle softly in her deeper gentler voice. “I love you so much, Armand, I love you so very very much. We had to do it. We had to. We had to do it, to always and forever be with you.”

Like, in the immediate aftermath, they’re both over the moon about it; they’ve even fed already. Later in the Prince Lestat era, they both seem fine; like I’m not recalling any major fledgling angst.

Claudia was eternally unlucky, and she was intensely lonely. Her relationships with both Lestat and Louis were complicated and strained (to the point that she tried to kill Lestat), she didn’t really have peers, and by the time she finally got a companion Armand was already engineering her death.

Daniel gradually went unhinged for a decade before becoming a vampire, and Armand might’ve blamed himself for Daniel’s full-fledged insanity afterward but it sounds to me like even if he’d somehow survived that horrible night he’d have lost his mind anyway. (By the way, who was it that kept Daniel fed while he was in that madness, huh?)

Benjamin and Sybelle are super lucky, relatively speaking; they have each other as peers, and Armand is somewhere between a peer and a guardian. From what we see in the PL era, they have their pursuits, they have a place in the vampire world — as fledgling vampires go, they seem to have as close to an ideal life as fledgling vampires get.

And like,, they got what they wanted: their Forever With Armand, with the sweet bonus of less physical harm to fear. And in the long run, after the … Veil-induced mania? wears all the way off, it seems like Armand isn’t that unhappy about it either.

So.

As much as Armand is totally allowed to have his feelings about it in the moment, all things considered it doesn’t seem like Marius “ruined” much of anything by turning them. At least not to me.

(Marius and Pandora? Tf was she doing?!)

#tvc meta #again i may well have missed smth #i know ppl super hate marius and everything he does #but idk this seems like one of his better moves? #marius de romanus #maybe the healthiest vampire family??

[nalyra-dreaming]

Do you think Louis will be more upset at Armand for using his mind gift to make Louis turn Madeleine? I read that part on here somewhere and considering Louis saying that was the last of his humanity leaving when he turned her, I figured he would be more upset lol I think Louis just told Armand not to do it again. 🤣 Or does Louis just not care because he’s in love. I’m really interested in that part .

Sooo, the part you're referring to is this one, right (a discussion between Armand and Louis, prior to the trial):

“ ‘But if it’s any consolation to you...surely you realize I had a hand in it.’ “ ‘That I did it to be free of Claudia, to be free to come to you... yes, I realize that. But the ultimate responsibility lies with me!’ I said. “ ‘No. I mean, directly. I made you do it! I was near you the night you did it. I exerted my strongest power to persuade you to do it. Didn’t you know this? “ ‘No!’ “I bowed my head. “ ‘I would have made this woman a vampire,’ he said softly. ‘But I thought it best you have a hand in it. Otherwise you would not give Claudia up. You must know you wanted it....’ “ ‘I loathe what I did!’ I said. “ ‘Then loathe me, not yourself.’ “ ‘No. You don’t understand. You nearly destroyed the thing you value in me when this happened! I resisted you with all my power when I didn’t even know it was your force which was working on me. Something nearly died in me! Passion nearly died in me! I was all but destroyed when Madeleine was created!’ “ ‘But that thing is no longer dead, that passion, that humanity, whatever you wish to name it. If it were not alive there wouldn’t be tears in your eyes now. There wouldn’t be rage in your voice,’ he said. “For the moment, I couldn’t answer. I only nodded. Then I struggled to speak again. ‘You must never force me to do something against my will! You must never exert such power...’ I stammered. “ ‘No,’ he said at once. ‘I must not. My power stops somewhere inside you, at some threshold. There I am powerless. However... this creation of Madeleine is done. You are free.’

I think this Louis will be more upset, yes.

However, I think the scene in the show will mirror the quoted discussion... in the break-up scene. Because Louis refuses to leave Claudia, despite Madeleine's turning. (We'll see, but I think that's this scene:)

I'm... just not sure whether it will include this admission of forcing Louis.

Because, Armand still does this in Dubai. He says: "I protect Louis from himself, always have." So maybe that admission will be something that will happen later. And the vow not to force him again never happened.

Though, tbh, it happens again in the book as well, he spell-binds Louis to leave the theater after the trial

And Armand’s eye said, Sleep.

and there is this comment from Louis later on that when Armand finally tells him that Lestat isn't dead after all that the veil that is between him and the world is suddenly thinner:

But when I heard this now from Armand it was as if the veil that protected me were thin and transparent, and though it still hung between me and the world of feeling, I perceived through it Lestat, and that I wanted to see him again. And with that spurring me on, we returned to New Orleans

So Armand obviously doesn't quite ... honor that promise as he should.

Personally I think that Armand likely kept Louis from bigger emotional outbursts. At the very least.

In the show the apology in episode 2 comes to mind, for the tear. Louis "resting" in-between. Armand coming and calming down Louis. Armand always watching.

So yes, when that falls away? When Louis will not buy into it all anymore?

I think he will be very upset. (What did Jacob say in the recent interview? Dubai would be explosive?)

Of course it will depend heavily on whether he suspected before and what the interview is actually for. Is it because he needs some kind of trump card to force Armand's hand? Or his own? Of course Daniel would be perfect for that, and of course using Daniel's relationship to Armand is a double-edged sword as well, given their history.

IF Armand did promise Louis not to force him again... then this Louis will definitely be beyond pissed when he can break free.

And, depending on what he will find when he does break free - that might be devastating for him. And then... things will likely unfold.

Given what is to come this will only be one aspect of the whole mess though and so... We'll see :). I do think the show has already hinted at all this, and I also think Jacob has done so in the last interview.

And wrt to him being in love... I do not doubt that Louis will fall for Armand, maybe even head-over-heels for a while. But that will shift, through all that happens. And a lot of things will weigh much heavier than that infatuation. The time after the trial is wrought with pain, and Louis trying to numb himself. And we have literally only had a glimpse... it will be very interesting to see what has to happen for this Louis to stay with the one who kills his daughter.

I think Jacob spilled the beans already a bit when he mentioned that Louis would choose that relationship "again" - that happens in the books as well, that Louis does go back to Armand at some point, and I do think that this is what we see in Dubai.

So no, I do not think Louis doesn't care because he's in love.

I think there's a lot more to it and I don' think they'll shy away from it^^.

#cettebelleame #asks #ask nalyra #amc iwtv #iwtv #amc interview with the vampire #interview with the vampire amc #iwtv amc #iwtv 2022 #interview with the vampire #madeleine #book quotes #iwtv s2 #iwtv spoiler #louis de pointe du lac #armand

[licncourt]

I totally understand your opinion about amc Lestat but don't you think this could just be Louis' perspective on him? Or Claudia herself? They portrayed Lestat as a demon in first book, I want to give a chance to the 2 second , the show plays a lot with things from point of view and memory, I think people are giving up too soon...

I've talked about this before, but it was over a year ago now so I'll explain again.

While I understand where you're coming from, I honestly don't think it would matter to me. Even if what happened in ep 5 was 100% something Louis or Claudia dreamed up, I would still have major issues because:

Even though ep 1 had a content warning for Paul's suicide, there was absolutely nothing before ep 5, something that the viewers had established trust with the creators to do. I think there's one now on AMC+, but that was added weeks later after backlash. The showrunners doubling down and the episode director almost mocking fans who were upset was incredibly tasteless as well.

The story as pitched by the showrunners feels very much like bait and switch false advertising. It was pitched to the viewers as a gothic love story that was "the most faithful adaptation of IWTV ever". Not to mention the insane tonal shift into something that moved from fantasy violence against NPCs to brutal domestic violence and the vampire version of sexual assault. Anyone coming from the books had no reason to anticipate this dynamic between Loustat, nor would anyone who checked out the source material prior to see if they would be okay with it

If they go the "Louis/Claudia imagined this/made it up/misremembered the events" route, I think that's a questionable at best and offensive at worst narrative to put forth about domestic violence victims since the showrunners seem to not see anything wrong with it. Portraying it is one thing, not seeing how presenting domestic abuse as "the fallibility of memory" is pretty messed up is another

Especially considering Rolin Jones' comments after one of the episodes that he wanted to "play with race" as a white man, I find the ep 5 events combined with the dynamic in ep 6 gross as hell. It's explicitly referred to as being like a master/slave relationship, that's insane considering the stated goal of the show was to make the story modern and racially aware. Obviously AMC wants Loustat to be romantic endgame, but they're starting off with a white man basically owning his black partner and child like animals

My problems with the episode also extend to Claudia's sexual assault. Again, not something that was in the book at all but rather added by a white male creator because I guess that's the only way women are allowed to face adversity in media. Claudia is already an incredibly tragic character, that was absurd to add for what, drama? Having Daniel make cruel comments about it to Louis and having Lestat (a canon sexual assault victim) mock her for it is the cherry on top.

Overall it was just a really shitty thing for the creators to do no matter what the ultimate outcome. Several of my good friends who are book fans were extremely triggered by the scene and totally blindsided by something that felt completely gratuitous and honestly like shock bait to be edgy and generate social media buzz. Again, unbelievably tasteless.

I don't have any faith in the good intentions of the creators anymore, and that sucks because there were a lot of good things about the show before that.

#obligatory reminder that enjoying the show is fine! these are just my reasons for disliking how it went #i also don't really want to argue about it or discuss it a ton bc that's not what my blog is about! #answered #amc hot takes

[blaqueswanzaghouliishiilikeda]

bare with me bc im fatigued but unable to sleep so i’m just here thinking and need to get my thoughts out, but i think much of louis’ passivity stems from his relationship with his mother and family. we don’t really see him become passive until claudia arrives. please correct me if i’m wrong but i believe that side of him is awakened once that traditional family structure is solidified in his home and i think the du lac family has a lot to do with why he’s like that and not just that he’s incapable of acting or choosing.

i see him and i see the child/mother that doesn’t want to repeat his mother’s failings on his own family but takes it so far to the extreme that it means he refuses to confront anything ever bc he feels he’s communicating the unconditional love he never received. he really is someone who wants the ones in his life to know they can be loved through anything. whether or not people receive it in the way he gives it i don’t think should be put on his shoulders as much it is.

he doesn’t have healthy understanding of discipline/consequences bc he was punished for things he couldn’t help like his queer identity. it doesn’t really seem like growing up he got into much trouble, again correct me if im wrong. other than paul his pimping isn’t really admonished by the du lacs bc it affords them their lifestyle. they are willing to distance themselves from it bc they get the house and the staff and the honeymoon trips etc. but they won’t overlook who he is. and it outweighs anything else. and that’s a weird thing to process being punished for bc the only thing you can do is deny yourself. but they know. so you hiding it and they know and they show you they disapprove even if you’re trying to play by their rules. it creates a complex.

then there’s paul. he’s the only one who really took it on to take care of paul and establish a relationship with him. i think florence probably didn’t push back against his institutionalization and grace seems to agree he belonged there. louis was the only one who saw how it negatively impacted paul. he loved paul that was his favorite person and then he killed himself and florence blames him for simply being there. this is where he starts to go from the favored son to the scapegoat which is a fucked transition to experience and i think its super underestimated how badly louis is impacted by it. it also happens when he starts to openly entertain lestat so it’ll never matter that his last moments with paul were expressions of love bc his all florence sees is that he’s been acting in sin and so of course he must of done and said something to kill her baby who he was raising and caring for in her place btw. when paul was upset he went to louis not florence. the last thing he ever said to paul was he loved him and he still died and florence blames him for it. he’s always punished for loving as far as he’s concerned.

then he does make “a choice” to become an immortal monster/companion/wife, which given all the circumstances is very much not much of a choice on his part, but he decides to go with what he wants and that choice is at the center of the unraveling of almost all the things he cares about and links to his human identity. and he clings to his human identity so i believe that fucks with his ability to trust his own decision making for sure. it’s the loss of his role in his family slowly but surely and everything he did he did for them. he always struggles with his decisions about how he supports his family and how he copes w the impact it has on his community. so if in choosing his own desire to love and be loved for once strips him of his family and his community what does that say about the decisions he made along the way? what was it all for? and then on top of that he didn’t even know what he was choosing in choosing immortality with lestat. he’s rocked by being faced with the reality of his choice so much so that he forgot his brother died for a moment. he’s probably developed an inability to take a step in any direction bc every step leads to a new rock bottom and he doesn’t trust himself anymore. that’s a very real thing that happens.

so how does that manifest when he has his own lil nuclear family?? well

with claudia he doesn’t ever want her to feel like she could ever lose his love for her for any reasons. like his family showed him. so bc his own punishments were correlated with who he was and not things he did really i don’t think he’s able to see disciplining claudia as guiding her towards better actions i think he sees it as punishing her for being as she is which he blames himself for and also for loving (where charlie is concerned but i’ll get to that…). it was his choice to bring her into this life so how can he trust himself beyond loving her unconditionally. that’s what he wants so that’s what he gives. claudia does what she does bc she’s a vampire and she didn’t choose that. he did. so he retreats when the consequences of that crop up and becomes passive. he doesn’t want to take a step in any direction on top of the patriarchal structure that the father is the law of the house, but then charlie happens.

claudia didnt kill charlie out of maliciousness. it was young love with all the demanding of the insatiable hunger of a vampire. even lestat recognizes that she got carried away so to louis punishing her or even makeing her feel bad for the action was too deeply entwined with punishing her for loving at all and that is a sensitive thing for him. he doesn’t handle it better than lestat that’s not what i’m saying what i’m saying is he doesn’t have the tools to guide her through this. what he has is the desperation to not repeat what harmed him growing up. it’s after this that he decides lestat cannot be the law of the household where claudia is concerned until he realizes his approach seriously blinded him to the fact that claudia ,yes is a doomed child vampire, but she’s a doomed child vampire making decisions and her actions have serious consequences for all of them and he doesn’t have the tools to guide. he can love her through anything, but how can he of all people really guide her. this isn’t as simple as no running in the house and listen to your elders. the mother is learning her daughter is her own person (and vampire) not an extension of her and with character traits like her father too. (plus the mother has to realize that she can’t heal herself through her daughter) whew. so louis decides to step back and to let lestat be the law again and then claudia LEAVES and on her way out she challenges his decision to turn her at all (with good reason. these two vampires should not be raising a baby!!) louis is literally so distraught he wants her to come home but he can’t bring himself to go after her and bring her home. he doesn’t want to take a step!! he doesn’t want to decide. it never leads to what he thinks it will. i don’t think he believes he can trust himself to make good choices. so he loves her unconditionally on broadcast for every vampire within radio earshot to hear because that’s what he can do. thennnn she’s harmed while she’s gone and i’m sure he’s feels in a way responsible. he wanted to be her protector so badly (when actually she’s his but i’ll get to that in a bit) and wasn’t able to. and of course there’s that scene™️ in ep5 with being put in a position where he was pressured to choose between lestat and claudia and because it LOOKED like he MIGHT choose claudia and because he didn’t IMMEDIATELY choose lestat disaster ensued. that’s a lot. fuck.

and when the nature of his relationship with claudia shifts more to siblings because she’s getting older, wants more agency and claudia realizes she is also a replacement for grace, this is where the passiveness that is the result of his relationship with grace developed. bc while its true claudia takes over for grace, she is the sister to louis that grace never ever was. on top of the fact that her solution for their issues was “you’re dead to me,” grace never actually accepted and supported his queer identity truly like claudia and she definitely never protected him like claudia either (defending mama du lac in regards to paul comes to mind and also her husband being the replacement son). and louis needs and wants both those things as well as someone who won’t abandon him like grace did and he let’s claudia be them but takes it to the extreme where the last two are concerned. Louis doesn’t think he can save himself from his situation and claudia believes she can save herself and him. she isn’t gonna leave him behind. he leans into that heavily. it’s not just that he can’t and won’t make choices to get them out of their situation it’s also that he’s traumatized by his past choices and also he’s also loving lestat unconditionally as well on top of that (in the way he’s able to). i don’t think louis could see a way out like at all. he was shrouded in darkness. the best he could do was compartmentalize his love for lestat to protect himself when things were at their worst that was his flashlight in that darkness. but like when it was necessary for the success of the plan that he allow himself to love lestat fully he said if i feel it there’s no way out of this fr fr. he knew he wouldn’t make good choices. choosing lestat is the decision he will always make for better or worse. but that’s at the expense of claudia on top of choking her.

like idk we joke about his inability to make decisions but that trait in him is drenched with trauma. and his family is a huge part of why imo. i just get so upset when i think about them. i really rambled on and on here. not sure how much sense this makes but i guess this ties into my feelings about this as well. but yeah not choosing as a trauma response and not just as a way to get out of confronting his problems even tho that is a symptom. if that makes sense. idk. my brain is mash potatoes right now.

#iwtv #louis de pointe du lac #ldpdl #the de pointe du lacs said he can go to hell #and he went and started a family there with his rich french white husband #who’s doing it like him #claudia #if i keep opening doors that lead be to a new level of hell im not prepared for i’d develop a fear of opening doors #thats the tldr of this long ass post i guess #i planned to mention that a lot of claudia’s kills are attempts to create a companion as well #in regards to punishing her for loving or in this case wanting love and seeking it out #the placement of the claudia tag is driving me crazy bc it reads like a response to the question before it #but actually just had the thought that i should tag her name bc it’s pretty relevant to all this #re: paul’s death - and he probably already blamed himself for not noticing #for going up there #for not stopping him #etc. all these decisions!! #we want him to make better decisions or any decision but like he doesn’t have the tools. he wasn’t prepared for what motherhood really was #no matter how much he wanted to be one

[blueiight]

Another major change is Louis and Claudia are in each others heads and have been telepathically communicating since ep4 even when things were peaceful and we can see this has an effect on Lestat in feeling left out.

Then you have Claudia's anger about her stunted life that was exposed only 5 yrs in and has its own arc here as opposed to the books where Louis is just haphazardly trying to guess why Claudia's upset for decades and it only comes out in Paris.

The decision on her part to be his sister/caretaker is completely absent in the books too like there was no violent beating so Claudia had no reason to be protective of him against Lestat. In fact it was more Louis being protective of her against Lestat's threats. Like to me the beating happening cause Louis tried to stop Lestat from hurting Claudia and her subsequent role as HIS protector completely alters the book dynamic that just simply can't be 1:1 anymore.

No matter how many violent threats book Lestat made, it just cannot compare to actually watching him beat your loved on in front of you and then spending years nursing him back to health.

a visual medium wont be 1:1 to the books, a good adaptation would necessitate a different display of similar thematic beats in the source material (verbal v. physical+ verbal abuse) AND ima add that an adaptation also has its own conversation to tell. the switcharoo of who’s the caretaker, whos protecting who book v show wise is intentional& could very well be colored by the perspectives of those telling the story. past louis saying he’ll be claudia’s knight while claudia is actually. the knight here. and show louis being far more of an agentic party in the murder plan than book louis bc of what happened to him + that long sense of mental communication he has w/ claudia here (which ive argued is a metaphor for their race b4 somewhere but i digress) than his book counterpart but modern show louis attempts to frame his involvement in the murder as ohh i was just seducing lestat while claudia did the hard work. yet hes the one who cuts lestat’s neck in the show. so! all this to say.. idk . i never argued show lestat+ claudia had the same exact relationship in the show as they did in the book, my original point is that they have similar dispositions + ways of processing their immortality which is similar in tone to their book characters

#yn. #yn answers #iwtv #Real violent niggas dont just threaten w words they actually put paws on u. it is what it is #also book claudia was catatonic for a few years! like thats incredibly traumatic #ever think why book claudia couldnt say she was upset at being trapped in her physical immaturity until lestat was gone

[thestormthatrises]

People that theorize that Armand is either mind controlling Louis or blackmailing him or trapping him with lies or *whatever*, to justify him calling Armand the "love of his life" are giving this god forsaken show too much credit.

Let's get one thing straight:

Louis wasn't looking tense. He was looking *smug*.

Smug, as if to prove Daniel wrong. That he doesn't, and never had, love(d) Lestat.

I know y'all like to seek out deeper meaning in media. That's how The Johnlock Conspiracy and Destiel Endgame and the other thousand other super deep takes that were just so... Tumblr happen. But like all of these, the answer is quite simple: the show is badly written. It is a chimera of a tale, stuck between what the producers wanted to tell (a story about Storyville and possibly very bloody vampires) and the VCs and it failed in telling either of those stories. It is Wattpad fanfiction at it's worse.

Do not expect any brilliant twist from these writers. They don't care for the source material. They don't care about book fans. They don't even care for the viewers (as it was shown by that sham of an episode filled with domestic and sexual violence and no trigger warnings; the nonsense storytelling; the butchered timeline; and how they weaponized you so you could defend their bad, lazy writing).

Lestat is the most cliche and disgusting monsterous version of himself, doing things the character in the books would never do.

Claudia is not the tortured, cruel and broken creature that was as conniving as she was helpless; and that swayed between killing Louis or Lestat and only chose to keep Louis alive because he was easier to control (she loved and hated Louis and Lestat equally).

Louis never once loved Lestat. Never hurt him in turn because their relationship was equal parts fucked. Louis never cared. He only called him "love" to kill him.

Armand is now the love of Louis' life.

This mediocrity will always be this show's reality and legacy.

Cheers.

PS: before another person feels compelled to make the stunning argument of "hurr durr book fan bad", this show marketed itself in being faithful to spirit of the books and the characters. They made a point to repeat this ad nauseam because they needed the books fans to watch this shit.

(I know this is gonna shock you, but the book fans outnumber the show fans by like, a lot XD)

And after all that. After all those promises and reassurances, this mediocre sludge is what we got.

Book fans get to be upset about being used and lied to.

#iwtv series #amc iwtv #iwtv #iwtv spoilers #iwtv 2022 #interview with the vampire amc #interview with the vampire #louis de pointe du lac #lestat de lioncourt #claudia de lioncourt #the vampire armand #armand

[mermaidsirennikita]

cannot WAIT for your thoughts on tonight's IWTV episode

Tbh I don't have like... fully realized thoughts on it and I don't think that I'll know how I fully feel until the season is over?

My initial reaction was pretty pissed off, because like...

Here's the thing. In a very real way, Lestat and Louis have a toxic relationship in the books and in the show. The show adds in the element of Lestat being white and Louis being black, giving Lestat power over Louis that he doesn't fully understand or acknowledge because he's that classic white partner who goes "no no I get it I'm cool" when he's not.

Additionally, there is a lot of emotional toxicity on both sides, and obviously, they are both murderers and Lestat did... kill Louis, even if Louis was in the moment really upset and asked for it (arguably in part due to a series of events that were manipulated by Lestat).

To me, all of those yeeeears of resentment and issues, plus Lestat's jealousy of the bond between Louis and Claudia would be enough to eventually motivate Louis to kill Lestat, which is what this is all leading to, right? The attempted murder.

So if Lestat beating the shit out of Louis happened just like that, and it's just something the writers threw in to motivate Louis to kill Lestat, I think that's bullshit on several levels. For though Lestat is awful:

--there's no basis for it in the books... which doesn't really matter, but I say that to go "this is a decision the showrunners made fully independently"

--it was unnecessary

--a white guy beating his black lover is an even tougher watch and not something we super need on our television screens at the moment, especially when it's on this supernatural TV show where it served the plot... not at all...

So the question is... and why I'm not passing full judgment as of now... did it happen like that.

We see it from Claudia's perspective. Not only does Claudia APPARENTLY (lol it hasn't happened yet but I assume) participate in the attempted murder of Lestat... she's the one really pushing it. Is Claudia making this up OR exaggerating a fight that happened in order to justify the attempted murder?

But also, Claudia is fully insane. I love her, but she is delusional in a way that I don't think Lestat is, despite his own mental fragility. (Sidebar: I don't super think we needed to see Claudia get assaulted in this episode, so that bugged me, but a friend of mine pointed out that this could play into Claudia recalling things different in terms of projecting the other guy's danger onto Lestat.) It is entirely possible that Claudia fully believed she saw something that didn't happen like that, as Louis is her father and Lestat is... different... for her.

And Claudia did not actually see most of the actual fight. What she saw--if that is all reality--was bad, don't get me wrong. But she also heard Lestat saying that he didn't want to hurt Louis, begging him to let up, etc. Which would play into the idea that Lestat has abilities and appetites that remain unfamiliar to Louis because he wants to protect him from that side of himself, something the show has played with before.

But I don't super know how any of this works with Lestat flying Louis up in the sky, soooo.

And even if they do reveal that this was another unreliable narration issue--I feel like I'm still a bit pissed. Maybe they'll find a way to convince me. But unreliable narration around the subject of DV seems.... dicey.... especially in our current timeline. And the unreliability coming from a mentally ill black girl who'd been sexually assaulted? IDK BOB. SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF BAD IMPLICATIONS.

And of course, it's also revealed... theoretically I guess, but I feel like this was real--that Antoinette has stayed Lestat's long term mistress? Not surprising I guess, but MESS.

I suppose there's also an element of--is the show going to get too entangled with the unreliable narration? Claudia's narration, Louis's, and theoretically we'll get Lestat's. With as much of the show's narrative theoretically depending on Lestat as it will, you'd think that they'd be hesitant to make him THAT coldly unsympathetic.

Unless, and here's the kicker because it is soooo possible: they are actually that dumb and don't recognize man-on-man domestic violence as the same as man-on-woman domestic violence. And that's, again, possible and I'd never trust the writers!

Here's the thing: in essence, is it unbelievable that a relationship as toxic as Lestat and Louis's would escalate to domestic violence? No. But in fiction, is it a) worth showing a gay black man being beaten brutally by his white lover just... because b) wise to make a character who's supposed to stick around and drive so much action as a semi-sympathetic figure a domestic abuser? Seems not to me on both counts.

Look, maybe they'll surprise me and pull this off. I really think there are a lot of questions up in the air still so I can't say exactly what happened. But either way, imo making this part of the unreliable narration game was..... not a good move.

#interview with the vampire #basically: not what i would've done no matter what

[sideeffx]

Sorry this concerns ep 5 and #that scene. Had a few stray thoughts regarding it. The sentiment seems to be the entire scene was out to paint Lestat as “abusive,” which I put in quotes because I feel as if the tip over the line had happened long ago. Maybe somewhere around the time he turned Claudia but it was brewing much earlier. But I was kind of ruminating on how maybe part of it was also to establish how Louis can’t ever fully run away from his victimhood? It’s easy to justify Lestat’s gaslighting, repeated actions to get a rise out of Louis etc but it’s not easy to justify something that quite literally leaves you bedridden for an indeterminate amount of time right? And we see that this is around the time Louis becomes even more of an unreliable narrator. “Unreliable” in the sense that he makes Lestat look better than he actually is. Daniel’s snarky comments compare Louis to someone who is still in love with their abuser but I’m kind of thinking part of the retelling while it comes from a place of still loving Lestat also comes from Louis all these years still being upset at his perceived emotional weakness.

He contradicts himself multiple times in his explanation of the way he and Lestat’s relationship unravels where it seems like it was a case of him not being able to fully let go of his human nature and thus not living up to what Lestat wants but at the same time Lestat’s role as “the monster” bleeds into his interpersonal relationships so hard that his two spawn are utterly terrified of him. Notably, a lot of his lack of tiptoeing around Lestat’s more deplorable actions is specifically when Claudia is in the picture because she makes her opinions of Lestat clear and even by the end he tries to play an “ultimately she loved him too” card on Daniel. Only for it to be refuted immediately because none of that is at all consistent with Claudia’s own thoughts written on paper. Louis is still somewhat trapped in the prison of his masculinity and pride where he simply can’t admit to himself he was in a situation that left him powerless emotionally and mentally. Thus the only real “abusive” action is when he gets in a fight with Lestat that he loses miserably. The physical pain a reminder of what transpired compared to the emotional rollercoaster that Louis can choose to forget about the next day. “I am not a victim,” only said clearly once, but reminded to you through his own biased storytelling. Really he means “this was all partially my fault, for being weak.”

#iwtv #louis de pointe du lac

[loumands]

When Armand kills Cláudia in his theater, what will the fandom joke about this? Bc nothing he does is taken seriously, but if Lestat calls Claudia spoiled he has to be killed again lol

I don't know what prompted this ask, but i think Armand's actions will be taken seriously by most fans and there won't be much jokes about Claudia's death because it's going to be upsetting, and some fans may never be able to forgive or like Armand's character after that. I think there isn't much hate toward Armand simply because we haven't seen almost any of him yet since he's in the background and disguise for entire s1. We've seen very little of his dynamic with Louis and his actions so there isn't much to elicit anger or hate in viewers, in comparison to Lestat who we've actually seen do various terrible things and hurt Louis and Claudia.

The relationship Claudia has with Lestat and the relationship she has with Armand are also very different. Lestat is Claudia's father and he's abusive towards her, whereas Armand and Claudia are almost strangers with no familial connection. While killing someone could be seen as worse than abusing them (i think Lestat likely wasn't really trying to kill Claudia in the finale), people are still going have much stronger reaction to abuse. Excluding the vampirism s1 was a very realistic depiction of how domestic violence and child abuse work so lots of people had a visceral reaction to it because it's deeply violating experience and something that could happen to any of us unlike burning in the sun as a vampire because some crazy older vampire wanted to get rid of you.

If Armand turns out to be abusive towards Louis i'm sure he'll get just as much hate as Lestat. I'm not sure is Armand treated any more sympathically than Lestat even now, because i've seen especially many Lestat fans talking about him like he's nothing more than a manipulative psychopath with no inner feelings or capability to love or having any nuance. I think Lestat is often allowed more complexity in the fandom, and majority of people who joke about killing him actually like his character. Ultimately we all have a blind spot with how we view our favorite characters versus characters we dislike or don't care about

#this was a long response to an ask that is maybe just a troll lol #ask #abuse tw

[caitlinluvsmanga]

Interview with the Vampire Episode 5 Thoughts....

I have....thoughts... Spoiler free it was an emotional rollarcoaster and I am literally crying having followed this show since it came out. 

If you don’t want SPOILERS stop here

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What the fuck?! I am goddamn sobbing! OH MY GOD. Ok, let me address piece by piece. Lets go character by character before I make my thoughts clear. 

Claudia: young girl who is literally stuck that way and since the beginning of being turned as easily taken toward being cruel. I adore her. I don’t blame her feelings about her eternal life. She is stuck as being a little girl - in this case 14 - forever. She hates this and takes it out through killing others and then runs away. 

- I did laugh my ass off at her drunk ass getting them searched by the police because she didn’t think burying people in a goddamn swamp in a place under sea level was going to be a problem. *i’m from GA so it cracks me up* 

Louis: My sweet fucking man you are LITERALLY KILLING ME! He loves his daughter so much. That’s who she is to him. I’ve known people whose daughters would run away or die and they fall apart and he blames Lestat (WHICH I WILL GET TO IN A MINUTE) but part of it is his blame. He begged Lestat to turn her because of guilt. Every stupid move he has made he has done out of guilt or self-hatred. He lost his brother so he broke down and gave into Lestat and blames Lestat for all of his problems. He is not in the wrong for this, but its a powder keg that just went off. 

Lestat: YOU BITCH! I both hate you and love your character at the same time. You are a stalker, an emotional manipulator, possessive, and you scream abusive relationship. BUT here’s the thing. I honestly believe he loves Louis. IN his own fucked up way! That does not mean he is doing it right and isn’t a monster, because he is. He wants so desperately to be loved. Throughout the episode when they are confined he wants to be with his companion, the one he chose, but Louis wants their daughter. I’ve read the novels I know Lestat’s story he wants to be loved but does no way of accomplishing that goal. I’m pissed about what he did, but at the same time I understood his frame of mind. 

Lestat literally hung in the air begging Louis to tell him he was unloved to make it easier on him. He tried telling him multiple times since Claudia he felt neglected. His voice and emotions he was holding Louis so close before he dropped him and even then he was so upset. NOT THAT ITS RIGHT. 

This episode killed me emotionally because it was fucking beautiful! You have the emotions of Claudia and everything that is happening to her then the downfall once again of Lestat and Louis. THEN the fucking Grace scene! OH MY GOD MY HEART! And the fact she knew he was a monster, but could not cope so she gave him a grave and Claudia watched it and for the first time felt empathy for Louis. She realized Louis suffers. The realization that a parental figure suffers is horrible. When the fight happens, Lestat went overboard, but at the same time what made him so sympathetic is when it slowed down and he was telling Louis “I can’t hold myself back. You should stop.” Then the moment of calm as Louis tells Claudia that its over. You don’t see them and its terrifying. I can imagine Lestat was fucking sick of hearing about her. This whole episode was an emotional rollarcoaster! Oh my GOD!

End of rant. 

I need to lay down. 

#interview with the vampire #amc iwtv #amc interview with the vampire #lestat #lestat de lioncourt #louis pointe du lac #vampires #iwtv #iwtv spoilers #my heart #claudia

[licncourt]

I agree with the post you reblogged about how they bungled Lestat's death scene! They couldn't have filmed a more different version – both in action and meaning – even if they tried.

But, in the context of the show, the story they insisted to tell, I can't ever imagine Lestat's death scene playing out like it did in the books. It doesn't fit. (And I'm upset they deviated so much from the core relationships that it doesn't fit anymore).

They have destroyed Lestat's relationship with Claudia from the very beginning. In the show they tolerate each other at best, and they hate each other the other time. All the things Lestat taught Claudia with love and enthusiasm in the books, he does it out of desire to manipulate/placate Louis in the show. Not to mention that he threatens to kill Claudia 🤢 and hurts her even in the last episode where he waits for Antoinette to kill Claudia 🤢. There is no way he could fall for a genuine attempt at reconciliation in this context, so they have to paint Lestat as on to her plan.

Regarding Loustat, since they have escalated the violence in their relationship to such a degree that never existed in the books, they had to give Louis a more active role in the death scene, otherwise he'd pass for a sad wife-beaten victim with Stockholm syndrome. They had to give him some agency in this instance. His hesitancy/indecision translates here not in passivity, but in reversing the course and ultimately saving Lestat (or at least hoping that his actions saved him cause according to Claudia's diaries, he is still convinced they killed him). Otherwise there would be no catharsis for the public.

Though, the choice to have Louis cut Lestat's throat perplexes me when I think about what is supposed to happen in Paris. THE TRIAL! How is that going to work since Claudia isn't the one who ultimately killed Lestat. She didn't even touch him!! She planned it but she isn't the one who killed him. Like, why is Louis still standing and not Claudia? Or will they have Louis throw Claudia to the wolves to save his skin?

That's why I'm thinking that the entire Lestat death scene didn't happen at all as Louis described it, not just the aftermath. I'm thinking Claudia did kill Lestat/cut his throat etc like in the books and Louis did stand by and watch helplessly paralyzed. Then Louis cried over Lestat's body etc and put Lestat in his coffin, ultimately saving him. So when Lestat pops up in Paris and Claudia is executed, Louis has to face the reality that by saving Lestat he condemned his daughter to die...and he can't take it. It's trauma on top of trauma and he starts to tell himself a kinder story : one where Lestat told him one last time he loved him before dying, one where Claudia didn't stab Lestat with glee but he's the one who did it tenderly, one where Claudia was unfairly murdered and his actions didn't doom her. And I'm sure Armand was only glad to help with this version of the story and reinforce it. Honestly, I think Louis doesn't know yet that Armand orchestrated Claudia's execution.

That's how I think they could save the mess they made in this episode (and how they could use tvl to give a more rounded picture). Though they could end up with the same problems regarding Louis' agency.

Okay I fully agree with the first part, and I love that idea for the story if that's where they choose to go with it. The specific storyline of the AMC show, whatever my personal feelings on it, would come together very nicely if things played out that way and it's really a brilliant theory. I don't have a lot to add because you connected the dots for us, but I think this would be great TV and a very effective use of the memory theme that they haven't utilized much yet. It makes the most sense to present it in this sort of context, combined with trauma and abuse (as long as it's done with sensitivity).

#answered #vc #vctv #interview with the vampire #iwtv

[positively--speculative]

The thing I like about AMC's Interview with the Vampire is that it can be taken at face value as a horror gothic about vampires and as metaphorical.

One line that stands out to me is this one: "All vampires are born out of trauma."

Like many vampire fans, the Twilight era frustrated me, but at the height of its popularity in the late 2000s/early 2010s, I couldn't put my finger on what exactly bothered me about the series. Later as I entered my 30s, I started to realize what it was. The Meyer-esque vampire stripped the archetype of the things that made them interesting--mainly, their queer-coding--in order to make them appealing to white cishet audiences (I wrote more extensively about this on my Medium).

The Meyer-esque vampires are not written with outcasts in mind. And by outcasts, I don't mean people who are made to feel like outcasts due to minor inconveniences in life or the trials and tribulations of typical adolescence. I mean queer people, disabled people, people of color, or anyone who was othered due to factors beyond their control.

Vampires exist in folklore from all over the world, and examining that folklore can help us learn a lot about the world outside of it--the world we live in. The act of draining the blood or energy from their victims, to me, is a metaphor for the way a real-life person (even a person who is well-meaning) can drain another person of their time, energy, and overall well-being.

Louis was vulnerable to Lestat from the beginning because he was already fighting his battles silently inside (racism and his internalized homophobia) while he maintained a tough facade on the outside.

It is agreed by many who've experienced trauma that we can easily spot someone going through similar battles. And, unfortunately, what happens with many who have gone through trauma is that they take on the toxic traits of their abusers. These people will cling to others who share similar experiences but demand too much from them. This is why many recognize abuse as a vicious cycle that is difficult to break, because when we don't take time to ourselves and evaluate our feelings about what has happened to us and seek some sort of help, we can become vulnerable to our limited understanding of "love."

Lestat loves Louis, but Lestat does not know how to love unselfishly. He does not allow him space to grieve his brother (and we don't even know for sure whether or not Lestat played a role in his suicide since we cannot trust anything he says), he alienates him from his remaining family, and he enjoys the benefits of an open relationship (likely because he enjoys how jealous it makes Louis) but is upset when Louis enjoys those same benefits.

It's been a long time since I read The Vampire Lestat, but I do remember that even before Lestat was turned, he was living a messed up life. He had issues with his controlling father, his relationship with his mother was...well, let's say not okay...he was kidnapped by the vampire who turned him and said vampire committed suicide before properly preparing him for his new life, and then he turned his first love, Nicholas, who committed suicide shortly after. He has abandonment issues that were clearly never addressed properly, and probably thanks to his mother, he has a very messed up perception of boundaries.

Yes, Lestat, Louis, and Claudia are vampires in the literal sense, but their stories can serve as cautionary tales for trauma victims who don't take the time to properly process and heal from their trauma.

#amc's iwtv #amc's interview with the vampire #interview with the vampire #suicide mention tw #analysis #vampires #anti-twilight

[vampyrles]

I gets worse on twitter

fyi they see every lestat stan as a racist and a lunatic

bc they defend themselves, and call out unnecessary drama from the 'morals' of liking him, other people think they call all racism discussions the "unnecessary drama"

Thank you anon you’ve just given me more reasons to stay off Twitter LOL

Here’s how I feel about the racial aspects because I’m not sure if episode 5 just changed everything for everyone or what cause all these issues were apparent to me in episode 1.

I understand the racial issues they’ve put into the show to make Louis’ character and I think they are doing a very good job of showing that. And with saying that, it comes with as I believe, Lestat not purposefully being racist towards them, or having racist motives at all. I truly think he thinks Louis and Claudia and other people of color are treated wrongly — yet that doesn’t change him still unintentionally taking part in being racist in a racist america. He is just selfish and way past human issues. Like the trolley scene and that post someone made about it and the difference in seating. There’s a clear imbalance to how society views them all and it seeps into the relationship/family.

It’s definitely not something we shouldn’t talk about. This show is doing a very good job in showing racial discrimination, something that is very much still happening in present day america and I think these tough conversations are important.

Anyway what I’m trying to say is that they are showing Lestat, a white man, in a very divided country, in a biracial relationship, and I wish people would realize that. Cause yeah, Lestat would 10000% drag Claudia home after her running away, and he would 1000% take Louis to the opera in a part of town he isn’t welcomed and Lestat isn’t, as far as I can see, doing it because he is racist towards them. He is doing it because he is selfish and wants Claudia to stay with Louis and he wants Louis to come see the opera he likes with him — no matter how they feel about it.

He’s not very um, self aware? Or understanding? He will never understand how they feel about the difference in dynamic because he has never felt that type of discrimination. And he’s so separated from humanity at this point that he just doesn’t care, or just doesn’t let it bother him. And in turn he doesn’t see how badly it’s hurting the people he loves. And he clearly doesn’t think they themselves SHOULD care. I think he was hoping that once Louis was turned he would be less bothered by racism, but it didn’t go away at all. Instead Louis just felt more separated from humanity than he already felt and it just got worse.

Because I don’t think Louis, someone very aware and upset by racism his entire life, would stay with Lestat at all if he felt he was purposefully using his whiteness against him. In fact I don’t think they would’ve hung out from the start either. Louis clearly doesn’t put up with that shit. He even seems to go “👀 huh?” when Claudia starts referring to Lestat as their master. I think that’s a major issue between the characters and the focus of their unequal grounds, not only just that Lestat is a much older and stronger vampire, and it’s what the show is hugely about when it comes to those scenes.

Lestat baby you just don’t get it :( will he ever?! We will just have to see. Am I still gonna love him? Yeah sir.

#lestat de lioncourt #amc iwtv #wooie.ask

[sofipitch]

I know you're probably tired of all this stuff around episode 5 so I'm very sorry if this is unwelcome, but do you think what they did with Louis's character in this new episode was racist? The writers spent all this time in the show demonstrating that Louis was a very priveleged black man only for it to be ripped out from under his feet in episode five as he lost his business, and he was brutally beaten by Lestat unprovoked. Not to mention what happened with Claudia.

I thought it was a little strange for them to spend all this time saying that they were handling race very appropriately and show scenes of graphically killing racists only to do that. Do you think it was to cover their asses? I'm white so I wanted to ask your opinion on it because I've seen stuff about it from non-poc fans. I'm sorry if any of this comes off as potentially insensitive.

Yeah I only found out this even happened through @amc-iwtv and they have posts explaining why it is racist and I 100% agree. In their relationship Louis and Lestat were always more or less equals but by suddenly making Louis "the housewife" it puts a bad taste in my mouth. In general the whole premise of ep 5 where we just see nonstop trauma inflicted on black characters and then in ep 6 they are told to stay in "their place/roles" of being mistreated si as to not upset Lestat...🤢🤢🤢🤢 I felt like eps 1-4 had been good about racial sensitivity but now it feels like it was tossed out the window and for what? Idk if ep 3 was to "cover their asses", like in general it feels like ep 5-6 are just so dofferent from the beginning of the show. Eps 5 and 6 feel like they just needed attention grabbing drama.so they turned it up to a 10

#vc #asks

[monsterfuneral]

monster live reacts to interview with the vampire

Alright I'm about to watch Interview With the Vampire for the first time and I'm gonna live react to it (in one post so I don't blog people's dashboards).

I don't know anything about this movie so :)

A new - Indicates when something new has happened. 

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- Let me see that fucking scientologist!!!

- WAIT CHRISTIAN SLATER'S IN THIS?! WH-

- I like this *very* dramatic music playing

- ...I don't think I've ever seen Christian in anything other than Heathers so.

- (When Louis turn on the lights) WHY IS HE SO VEINY LMAO.

Okay edward cullen

Ah yes vampire backstory

- Poor guy 😔

- OH SHIT IT'S THE BLONDE BITCH. IS THIS LESTAT??

- Oh shit he's about to get a little sucky sucky... Shit nvm she's dead

OH SHIT WE FLYIN

He's just taking a little swim. Literally how did he survive.

- Oh shit hes back

Just kiss already, fuck dude

- OH. He's a quick little guy, just a little cuddle with my pal

Bleed on his ass. Oh shit he's into it

Oh shit he's turning into a werewolf.

HIS VAMPIRE WHAT. He's got new ass eyes. 

WHAT THE FUCK THE STATUE'S EYES ARE MOVING

- "Coffins are unfortunately a necessity" am I the only one who's like... Totally okay with the idea of sleeping in a coffin or

- Lestat is really pretty 😳

- Oh he's god a nifty little thumb thing, that's very epic of him.

- HE REALLY JUST FUCKING CAUGHT THAY DAMN RAT AND IS NOW EATING IT....

He shook that damn rat out like it was a bottle

- Doggies

READ HER THOUGHTS WHAT

- Oh shit they taking the dogs for walkies

Sir you have lipstick on your nose

NOOOO THE DOGS.

- Oh shit he's mad

LESTAT'S LAUGH LMAO WHAT THE FUCK

- He is fucking hungry. All those chickens gone to waste.

Oh shit

- He's such an asshole omg

OH HE'S MAD

- Oh shit he's giving him the hand. Louis is NOT having Lestat's dramatics right now

- Oh shit THE CRAWFISHNOOOO

Oh shit she's dead. Poor girl :(

- Yes love arson

Lestat is SO DRAMATIC "PERFECT! PERFECT! JUST BURN THE WHOLE PLACE DOWN!" I think that's what he's doing sir.

LMAO "OH SHUT UP LOUIS, COME HERE!" yeah get his ass Lestat

- Oh a cemetery:) this is nice

- Lestat's only moods are: overly dramatic, horny.

Also I absolutely refuse to believe this man is straight

YO THOSE FUCKING CHEEKS ARE *STRAINING* IN THOSE PANTS

- Just me and my big happy vampire family :)

Aww wait okay that's actually kinda cute. Just two dad's spoiling their daughter :) I'm sure nothing bad at all will happen.

LMAOOOOOO "Claudia! Now who will get to finish your dress? A little practicalities, remember, never in your home" AND THE LITTLE HAND SLAPS LMAO. I fucking love him.

AWWW HER LITTLE COFFIN IS SO CUTE

(NOOO MY DRAFT DIDN'T SAVE AND DELETED A FEW THINGS I SAID)

- Anyway, I'm at the part where Claudia is upset over Lestat treating her like a doll. Which I can't blame her, I wouldn't be too pleased about it either if this was how I was treated for the past 30 years.

Oh shit she's throwing the dolls away.

THERE'S SO MANY OMG

Oh shit there's a body on the bed. Lestat is not happy, oh shit he's shaking her around.

LESTAT CALM DOWN DAMN

- Oh shit she's cutting her hair off. You know what you fucking go, stand up for yourself.

It (short hair) actually looks pretty good, we love that for her. 

OH SHIT NVM IT'S BACK SHE IS ANGRY

- I do not blame her at all. Even though she was sick her whole life was still robbed from her, I compl understand the rage, this is an amazing performance.

LESTAT SHUT UP! YOU FUCKING DID THIS DUDE.

OH SHIT SHE'S FUCKING CUTTING HIS ASS

- He just pulled a David line "you will never grow old, and you will never die"

- Louis is such a sweetheart. I love him so much. (I love lestat too he's just a bitch)

- Poor Claudia. She deserved to be happy.

"my love..." 🤢 What.

- Lestat's fucking dramatic piano playing JSWJRKEK

- Lestat is really just Klaus Mikaelson with less rage (maybe)

I feel like she's got a devious little plan.

"we forgive each other then?" He just wants someone to love him man...

OH MY GOD DID SHE JIST DRUG HIM LMAO

OH NO IT'S BC THEY'RE DEAD

OH SHIT!! SHE JUST FUCKING SLIT HIS THROAT! You know even though I love Lestat. I'm proud of Claudia.

"good night, sweet prince" get his ass

- I'm glad she's doing research though, she deserves to know what she is.

- AWW BIRDIES

- Uh oh he god ding dong ditched. 

I'm making a prediction right now: Lestat isn't dead.

choking his ass out fuck. That corpse was dirty as hell but I assume I was right and it was Lestat.

I knew it. He is a little leather bastard now.

- OH SHIT SET HIS ASS ON FIRE

HE'S FLYING WHILE ON FIRE LMAO

Louis you fucking go, king shit.

- Claudia is quite the artist. Shit dude.

They're in paris now :) I have a tiktok for this, will post afterwards.

- I'm so glad they're both happy. I'm sure it totally won't be ruined or anything :)

- Oh shit new Vampire?? Just me and my new pal syncing up

I LEGIT THOUGHT HE WAS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE WALL LMAO

OH NVM HE'S JUST DANCING UP IT

- WHO IS THAT 👀 

nvm I don't like him he gives me bad vibes.

- Vampire party?

Just a play nvm.

Oh shit this is fucked up. Hey guys I don't think she's apart of his. 

Nvm she might be idk. (she wasn’t)

YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE A GIF FOR THIS FEEDING SCENE IN THE PLAY

- The dress Claudia is wearing is very pretty though

- THE WAY HE REACTED TO THE OTHER BITE MARKS ON THE KID'S HAND LMAO

- I don't trust this guy.

Oh shit old ass. 400

Oh shit they have what we do in the shadows rules.

- Poor Claudia.

- Oh shit she's going to the doll store 😔

- I AM SHOCKED I JUST REALIZED THIS GUY IS ANTONIO BANDERAS LMAO

Me listening to this guy talk: wait that Antonio Banderas?...

Me: there's no way *starts looking it up*

Me when I look at the cast list, now covering my mouth: ....it's Antonio Banderas....

Louis better not fall for this shit. Claudia needs you dude.

Tbh I wish my nails looked as good as Louis'

- That sidewalk is so fucking skinny man.

- Who's the lady...

Oh shit Claudia 😔 poor thing. She doesn't deserve all this pain.

Oh shit he's gonna do it. 

Oh shit he's doing it. 

OH SHIT HE DID IT.

- Poor Louis 😔 this story is just a "I feel bad for everyone" kinda story huh.

WHAT THE FUCKWHY ARE YOU KISSING HIM HUUUH????? 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

- NOOOO WHAT'S HAPPENING

CLAUDIA NOOO

WHAT IS HAPPENING

This is very not epic of them.

Oh shit are they in like a sun trap or something, like in what we do in the shadows 

DNWKSLSK I WAS RIGHT. I'm a fucking genius.

Oh no 😔 poor Claudia man.

- Oh Armand is actually helping. That's very epic of him. Scared it's 100% too late for Claudia though.

NOOOOOO

Poor Claudia 😔 you'll be missed AND POOR LOUIS THAT WAS HIS ONLY FAMILY >:( angry.

I would say at least Claudia's freed but literally to where... :( I hope she's somewhere happier.

- His eyes are so red omg.

AWW HE'S CRYING

- GET YOUR REVENGE BB

Ooo it was very pleasing to watch that liquid pour down those fancy steps

- YEAH BITCH GET YOUR REVENGE LIGHT THOSE ASSHOLES UP

OH MY GOD???? HE FUCKIN CUT HER HEAD OFF WOOOO. GET THEIR ASSES LOUIS!

This vest on him? Iconic.

OH FUCK JUST CHOPPED THROUGH HIS ASS LIKE NOTHING

YOU GO LOUIS. ICONIC. AMAZING.

- LMAO THE WAY HE THREW HIMSELF INTO THE WINDOW OF THE CARRIAGE

- Oh Louis 😔

- Now he's all alone this is so sad :(

- He’s a movie nerd, understandable.

- He's so pretty

- WAIT OLD DEATH???👀👀👀👀 L-lestat?....

Body in the vines. 

Bats :). 

AAAAAAA I KNEW IT

HE LITERALLY CAN NOT DIE. HOW IS HE ALIVE.

You look a little decrepit my man

"still beautiful Louis" *cries*

THE WAY HE SCOOTS AWAY LMAO

"the more I wanted you" just admit you were in love with him, loser.

"become the old Lestat" well I don't think we need that. Love you though :)

- Mans really just said "but louis I wanna be traumatized too :("

OH SHIT CHOKING HIM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CEILING

- Oh he's got a nice car though :)

- LESTAT LET HIM GO HE'S DRIVING

HE'S SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN I LOVE HIM

THE END

I really liked it :) a little weird how they made Claudia and Louis’ relationship seem romantic, I didn’t like that, and well some other things too but, you know. 

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