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notyoujamie · 3 days
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Reality bleeding through.
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starleska · 2 days
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73 Yards has devastated me and i have some theories
we all agree that 73 Yards was a genre-defying, harrowing episode...and i think there's some really interesting themes and ideas going on here. tw for discussion of trauma, abuse, neglect and abandonment:
i hope we're all on the same page that the Woman seems to represent Ruby's fear of abandonment, brought to life. always present, always out of the corner of her eye, and whose primary mechanic is to drive people to scorn and leave Ruby without explanation. even people who do not know her, or people she's just met, or who are incredibly warm towards her...they speak to the Woman, and they look back as if to confirm their suspicions, and then run away, maddened and horrified. it is an unbelievable stroke of genius to make the Toymaker's breaking down of the boundaries between science and fantasy bring Ruby's abandonment into being...and for Ruby to weaponise her. but that's it - as soon as Roger ap Gwilliam was taken care of, we expected the Woman to disappear, right? but that could never happen, because Ruby's fear of abandonment will never disappear...no matter how purposeful her life is, or how much she distances herself from others. the use of the cruel, distant individuals in the Welsh pub to set up Ruby sympathetically is excellent...and then, we see people approach Ruby at all levels of emotional connection, when time and again she is considered untouchable, as if her very being is contagious. and all this time, we have the fairy circle being broken and hope vanishing...with hope being the Doctor. the one man who potentially holds the key to uncovering Ruby's deepest desires - to find out why she was abandoned, and by who. and at the end of it all...even in death, Ruby doesn't find peace. she is transported into a neverending hell-loop where she is her own abandonment. the two are inseparable, inexplicably the same, because Ruby's very existence as herself is built on the bedrock of abandonment. and i think this resonates heavily with any trauma survivor...the way that our trauma and our very real anxieties brought on by that trauma are inextricable from ourselves. i think the plot with Roger ap Gwilliam shows off a very real symptom in trauma survivors: we often daydream that our hurt and pain will be useful one day - functional. and not only does Ruby get to do that...she gets to be the quiet, unsung saviour of the whole world, protecting us from a world-ending terror in spite of the abuse and neglect she's faced. she endures menial work and constant fear, while only confiding quietly in one other person...Marti, who i believe is coded as another trauma survivor due to her response to Roger (who she describes as a monster). if Ruby can't receive love and affection from anyone else, at least she can feel satisfied that she served her purpose. on a practical level, the presence of Mrs Flood and Susan Twist in this episode AGAIN gives me pause. my theory that someone here is another of the Toymaker's Legions, and is the embodiment of Story, has only deepened. the fact that we had a cold open without the title sequence, we met Susan Twist very quickly, we seem to have flipped genres for the show and Ruby was able to embark on a self-destructive wish-fulfilment saviour fantasy in real life...it all indicates to me that the boundaries between reality and fiction are fully collapsing. when Kate says things are trending towards the supernatural lately, i think we've only hit the tip of the iceberg. on a broader level: my God Russell T Davies, what a brilliant script!!! this is one of my favourite ever episodes of Doctor Who, and is absolutely my highlight for the season. huge kudos to Millie Gibson for giving such a killer performance...i am now terribly endeared to, and protective, of Ruby, and hope against hope she gets the happy ending she so deserves 💖
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digitalafterlife · 2 days
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is it just me, or does that sound like a reminder a director would give an actor right as they’re about to launch into a scene?
“and, from the top, Ruby, you’re standing in the street, on the phone to your own mother.”
or stage directions in a screenplay: RUBY, standing in the STREET, on the phone to MOTHER.
nothing to do with me.
we’ve been thinking susan twist is “The Director”, but what if she’s not? what if she’s a helpful member of the crew, trying to get through to Ruby and the Doctor in whatever ways she can; and The Director is actually Mrs Flood?
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sconesfortea · 3 days
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She's back, and Ruby sort of recognised her, not that she'll remember that? Weird that she's even in parallel event timelines!
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victoriawaterfield · 3 days
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also susan twists appearances are DEFINITELY getting longer / more important
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timespacegirls · 2 days
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ruby recognising susan twist stressed me out more than the rest of the episode
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wastedandbasted · 1 day
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i don't care if what's going on this new series of doctor who is science or magic or some weird mix of the two as long as it's pɹıǝʍ
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mwagneto · 2 days
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WAIT but if the timeline reset that means ruby won't remember talking to susan twist and finding her familiar omg. coz i was wondering how they'd bring her back now that ruby was kinda ?? about her but that solves it
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Welcome back the sontaran experiment
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stargazerlily7210 · 2 days
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So. I have a theory about the whole dangerous/terrifying secret that's so horrible it can cause even Carla to turn on Ruby, and even Kate Stewart and UNIT, who had all the psychic training/defenses weren't immune to it, thing.
Now, I don't really think we'll be finding out exactly what they experienced/heard/saw. Because that unsatisfying/uncomfortable lack of answer there really adds to the lingering fear factor, as many have pointed out, already.
That said.
What if it's nothing to do with anything The Woman/Ruby's Ghost is telling them, (cause she seems to only have eyes for Ruby, anyway).
What if somehow, getting close to/paying close attention to The Woman somehow reveals to the person that the woman IS Ruby. Causing a glass shattering moment for them, revealing that Ruby is somehow not of this universe/can't actually exist/is a cosmic anomaly that the human brain can't process. Causing the unavoidable, uncontrollable, instinctual, terrified reaction and inability to put it into words/explain it.
Bonus: I think this won't be the last we see of this Old Ruby. If purely because of the marking/scar we can clearly see on the actress in the Unleashed episode, that, seemingly intentionally, was never really made visible in the episode itself. (side note: I love the fact that this woman is just a sweet older lady apparently named Hilary Hobson. Not some fake identity to hide who the actress is or something. Especially because I totally called The Woman being Old Ruby trying to help, but only because I thought, like many people, that Hilary Hobson was actually Millie Gibson in old person prosthetics a la Family of Blood and Sound of Drums.)
Bonus Bonus: As far as I'm concerned, the Mrs. Flood cameo was a stroke of genius. In one fell swoop, we get the excitement of seeing her again, but we get confirmation straight from the horses mouth that The Woman has nothing to do with her. So we can focus on the terror of what's actually happening, instead of getting distracted by Mrs. Flood theories. As the only other resident mystery older woman until this point, aside from Susan Twist who we already saw wasn't The Woman.
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box-dwelling · 3 days
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You know, it would be great if Susan twist was like an actual signal that we're getting a twist about Susan but I have to say it would be infinity funnier if she isn't. Like do I want Susan, yes but it would be so so much funnier if the entire who fandom became completely obsessed with this basically incidental actress for a period of time and future fans are baffled at why we all love her so much and want her at every con.
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non-man049 · 2 days
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Kind of insane from Russel to make an episode about being haunted by a mysterious magical woman who is always present but nobody knows how or why on the same season that has Susan Twist.
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sunsetcurveauto · 3 days
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the even bigger questions is. why does susan twist have like. third billing in this ep lmao
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digitalafterlife · 1 day
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fucked around and checked out the r/gallifrey post-episode discussion for extremis
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seven years ago. do you think russell read this comment and went ‘eureka!’
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airprime7 · 15 hours
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Things I haven't seen mentioned about Doctor Who's new episodes that I feel are really important:
Time-stopped snowflakes in Boom, just like in Twice Upon A Time. My literal first thought when I saw them was "Testament?"
Susan Twist in Church on Ruby Road asking Ruby's band to play Gaudete, a Scandinavian carol according to Wikipedia. (Dårlig Ulv Stranden, anyone?)
What is the woman signing? (I just found a post about this though)
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Ruby finally acknowledging the Susan Twist thing was so cathartic to me in a way. Because we’ve been seeing the woman over and over and obsessing over what she means, and last episode, Ruby finally looked her in the face as the ambulance. So now, she’s able to look at the hiker and be like ‘hey haven’t i seen you before? on an alien planet?? hmm weird’ and i think that that awareness is only going to grow as the season goes on until we can finally find out what‘s going on
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