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If you need me I'll be thinking about this scene for the next 16 years
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notelectrictigerart · 3 years
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The Promised Neverland: Season 2 Episode 1
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stray-tori · 3 years
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TPN S2E01 Thoughts (anime-only)
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Opening thoughts so far
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of course this parallel which i already cried about in its own post. I just. my emotions. AHHHH-
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I’m not sure what it means but the cut from two hands forming a grid to the chains being aligned similarly and creating a chainlink fence. The hands covering someone's vision could be the deception of the farms or something of the like, especially since it comes after the shot with all the moms lined up. But those illusions are a prison, therefore the chains. I'm just not sure how it correlates to the post-escape. I guess the system/society overall
I rly just wanted to appreciate the smooth transition work haha
Another TPN server member pointed out its not two hands covering someone’s vision, it’s a demon and human hand, making a deal. I’m blind. Match cut still cool.
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I also can't believe my prayer for empty space composition got real. I JUST LOVE IT BECAUSE I WAS SAYING IT THE WHOLE TIME I was like "I hope they do a thing on the poster or something, where its framed like the three of them are there but norman's is just empty space" AND THEY DID IT!! ONCE AGAIN MY FEELINGS. IM SO HAPPY THEY DID IT BUT ALSO OUCH 
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The episode
A lot happened but it didn't feel rushed particularly for me personally, excluding the few shots it didn't stay on long enough to really make out anything (and you can pause on those so). They reference they've only recently entered this type of forest (implying they've been on the way for a while), and the forest before that wasn't as... "fantasy", they also referenced being up on a high point of view (likely the cliff they stand on at the end of ep12 or another high point they've been at) where they've seen the river.
The only thing that I feel could have used some time is Ray. Having him have that sort of resolution like 5 minutes in (when before he was sure he'd be dead and therefore didn't plan to take any responsibility for what happens after the escape) feels kind of weird, especially if we haven't seen Emma burdening that much by herself except emotionally and implied also for other activities (I feel that there's some setup missing for her leaving Ray to do the bait thing later in the episode).
I also think having a bit more time between the "oath" and him breaking down being like "I can't give up, I promised" (which was amazing angst, I approve) wouldn't have hurt, but it's also kind of a nice circle within the episode I guess.
Overall, they seem to be moving fast (although I'm not really bothered by it personally), but unless they directly contradict something from the manga, I think if someone wants more details, they can read the manga and add those informations into their experience! Not everything needs to be reiterated, sometimes. And so the anime can move forward faster, both for better and worse.
Haven't read the manga though so I don't know if that works the way I think it does.
But yeah. I feel like an earlier point would have been a good cliffhanger too, maybe around the time Emma faints?
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[About the carving in the tree]
What I assumed was that Ray gave them the clear signal, but if he didn’t returne, they'd gone looking for him and get hold up. So he carved that, i assume, to tell them what happened and make them go the other way instead of looking for him. Not that they'd listen probably but YKNOW.
I'm not entirely sure.
My friends and I had this whole tangent about “it'd be funny if the demons saw it and just showed up at Minerva's base. Minerva dead”
though I also assume that the coordinates are minerva internal stuff but then again the one scientist did just randomly lose the pen for krone to find so. yknow. idk if their system is the most competent in being secretive and not having a demon pick one up at some point haha-
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“ what do you feel about the general vibe of this new direction? ”
tainted anime-only but I'll try to give thoughts udsihsdj
Hmm I don't really have any particular feelings I suppose? I'm definitely excited though, I feel like even though the setting and feel has changed from kind of subtle thriller to like, out-right scary monsters and survival, the underlying kind of angst and sincerity stayed the same? I guess it could also be argued that since the anime put less focus on the internal planning and more focus on the character expression and stuff, it's not as extreme of a shift for the anime in a bubble.
I guess I initially thought TPN was kind of "grounded" - ..... aside from the yknow, big children eating demons - if that makes sense? But I think it's also interesting from a meta perspective that the outside or at least segments of the outside (since they said that the previous forest didn't have all those fish bugs and plants) are so fantasy based because in the bubble of GF house its kind of easy to assume the world is just kinda ours but slapped demons on top of it (so in a twist of events, the trapped children who grew up in a lie knew a lot more about their world than we did).*
So I think the fantasy direction is kind of interesting (i also find it interesting that it's only segments of the world, apparently, so I wonder if that has any implications for why the fish bugs and plants are limited to those regions aside from... I guess just natural territory).
* which i also find interesting, because apparently they had a book on it in GF. Which heavily implies that either those things existed before the demons or the demons didn't "take over" fast enough to stop the making of books that depict those things. So I guess really the fantasy elements for them in-universe aren't really surprising. It was kind of surreal, watching them talk about them so normally when so much of the setting up until now was very non-fantasy (again, demons aside of course)
I wrongly assumed the last book being from 2015 implies that the demons took over then, but that contradicts another observation I made before and I totally forgot about but I like it more. So I’m going to redirect you there: Year Count based on demons thoughts
It’s probably gonna go more into demon stuff and all that so that's cool and I'm curious. I'm still not sure if the two new demons designs imply that they're lesser or not, because they have those masks that essentially "fake" what other demons seem to have naturally (the multiple eyes, the horns) but I'm not sure if that means they use that to substitute or if it's the other way around. It kind of feels like paying tribute to those characteristics but I can't really... explain it well haha
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florenzzis · 3 years
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i dont get what they're doing tbh they skipped mujika telling emma about the seven walls and then yuugo is not even in the bunker??
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temporoom · 3 years
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Yo so I watched TPN S2 EP4.
To summarize real quick : I am hyped.
Listen, I wasn’t worried too much about Bunker Dad’s absence, just surprised. And now that it’s clear we are going on something new, Cloverworks has all my attention. It’s a great way to keep the story trending and keep people hype in my opinion, so I won’t judge that choice. And for now, the new premise they are going with got me ON EDGE. 
Basically, with how this is going, and with informations from the fanbook, I guess they are going for the prototype of the after escape plan, where the children joins a group of rebel before meeting Norman. WITH BONUS BADASS ISABELLA WOOHOO. I have been fantasizing badass military Isabella since the lambda arc and I assure you they got me when they implied it in the anime.
The episode was fun and good overall, though I feel like since they spent less time in the bunker, the assault felt less impactful than in the manga. But we got to see Ray firing arrows like a badass so I’ll accept it. The part with the children testing food was hilarious, and the fact we see more of the kids makes me happy to a no-ending point.
But here lies my first problem, and I expected it since EP1 because of the merch and stuff : the ambiant sexism. 
One of the amazing thing with TPN is that we can’t feel any sexism anywhere. Like... You could change the gender of any character and it wouldn’t change anything in the main plot, seriously, nothing at all, that’s how good it is. I don’t often talk about it, but Emma is a very feminist protagonist, and written almost like one, though I feel like it’s more accidental than anything which is even better. But the anime... *sigh*
The first part was pretty discreet since they adapted from the manga but...
First Ray standing before Emma, then only the boys going out to hunt while the girls took care of plants, the fact they kept their old uniforms, Don’s “you’re a boy so don’t cry”, Ray being the one to fire arrows...
It’s subtle, but because there’s none of that in the manga, it stands out even more. And I didn’t think it would bug me as much as it does, but here it is. Honestly the potential new plot has me hyped, but THIS, THIS is really going to determine what happens during the rest of the anime. And I swear I will throw hands if it changes Emma and Norman’s relationship because of that because I’m already tired of the sexism in this fandom so if they add it in the anime... Who knows what will happen. 
I’ll look forward to what they do with what they came up with, but I just hope this won’t affect the plot.
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chidoroki · 3 years
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The Promised Neverland S2EP8
aka: scared for the anime and my health
Happy TPN train wreck Thursday. How’s the anime gonna upset the majority this week? Not sure. Can’t hear the complaints with “Identity” blasting.
“Emma’s Agony” as the bastard finally reveals himself.
The look on Norman’s face is how we all look while watching this season: scared and confused.
Jeez, there’s like no life in Isabella’s eyes when she hugs Norman.
I’m not gonna say the anime re-used shots of him taking the test but.. that’s exactly what they did.
At least we’re getting ch74 animated..
Is this other dude Smee though?
Oohh we actually get to see Vincent in Lambda! With the little note Norman left for him! I know those were extra pages in the mange but for the life of me I can’t remember which chapters they’re from right now.
Ah, okay, wow.. I wasn’t expecting to see Cislo and Barbara LIKE THAT!!
Oh my god Zazie too!! They have his little tiger plush on the table aw.
Wait, I lied. Those quick shots of the crew are from ch153!
So the facility does have the other children in that colorful room and.. demons eating them in the next room, okay..
If I ever coughed up blood I’d freak out so bad.
“I can obtain explosives.” Bro HOW??
Also, can’t tell if this is “Cold-hearted Isabella” playing or not but the song sounds fairly the same.
Hey, at least they’re showing us more of the Lambda escape, sorta.. along with all the casualties.
Ahh that guy really was Smee! i can’t believe we live in a world were we see him animated and not yuugo, like wth.
Oh that quick glimpse of ch129 too. We’re jumping around all over the place today huh?
So, question! Since Norman brought up dying, is he and the crew actually going to? Because Adam is no where to be seen and he was the cure for the seizures. I know people have been wondering about this already but still a major problem!
I can’t believe we’re getting snippets of ch143 and Ayshe is no where to be seen. I’m hella sad right now.
And here comes “Tension”.. again.
Shit! This demon’s large ass foot just scared the crap outta me!!
Yeah, that’s a lot of poison the Lambda crew has. I mean, I knew that but not that many crates full! Damn.
At least the voice actors have it easy with the kids wearing their demon disguises. They wouldn’t have to worry about matching lip flaps.
“But he’s certainly rushing things.” Ah, Norman must also work for Cloverworks.
Oh special necklace, what purpose do you serve in this adaptation I wonder..
“January 29th, 2047.” Oh look, a full year after Goldy Pond was supposed to go boom.
Okay but the red sunset they have going on right now in the forest looks real pretty.
Norman’s cape is.. black? Not white?
“I will gladly become a god or a devil, Emma.” AAhh he said the thing but they didn’t give us the fantastic angel/devil panel that goes with it! Sure he’s giving such an intense look and the sun setting behind him is a nice touch but it’s not the same! How disappointing.
Fuck these demons and their goddamn jump scares! Holy fucking shit!
Aahh Emma! Is that how she gets hurt?
Don’t lose the necklace, darn it! I still haven’t a clue on what it can do for you in this timeline but it’s important! Somehow! I hope?
Emma fighting back despite her injury, HELL YEAH! That’s my girl!
Oh? Mujika found the necklace though. That’s good.
Did they just.. re-use the scene from ep1 for Emma? When Ray was running from the demon and jumped over the tree exactly like that? C’mon Cloverworks, ya serious?
I know what y’all are gonna say and I don’t care, I absolutely love all the fantastic kills Ray is getting!
Aww my boy was so scared too! But he’s relieved now! As he should be!
OH FOR FUCK’S SAKE! Stop stop STOP! This is the THIRD DAMN TIME demons managed to make me scream this episode!
Thank you Sonju.. ah, help me, I need to breathe.
Aww Emma is so happy to see them.
An explosion.. Norman started his plan early hm?
Shit, that poison works fast!
I believe this song played in ep1 as well, when we first met Sonju & Mujika. Also reminds me that I need to listen to the new s2 soundtrack eventually.
The Lambda crew be looking like Itachi during the Uchiha clan massacre.
Friendship with head pats ended, now Ray putting his hand on Emma’s shoulder is my best friend.
Ooohh I’m really loving this song though!
Aw the blind demon was worried for Emma!
NORMAN!! Don’t you fucking dare kill that demon child!
Oh.. the demon child’s name was actually Emma.. no wonder the blind demon was happy upon meeting our Emma and why Norman just hesitated.
“I knew this day would come.” OHH! THIS SONG!! This is the one Obata teased back in October on twitter!! We finally get to see what scene it plays in! Yeesss! I’m so happy!!!
The blind demon didn’t degenerate? ... wait a damn second! Is he the same old demon from ch163?? Did he have a name? I know blind demon has a name but I honestly didn’t think we would see him again so I didn’t care to remember it.
Norman! Can you not please!!
Does the small child demon have the same voice actor as our Emma? Because they sounded so similar when saying “I don’t.”
BOI! I’m about to jump through this damn screen and knock you out if you kill these demons! I swear!
Ah shit, here comes our Emma. You’re in big trouble now boss.
Aw my god, they really gave us tiny, scared Norman for a quick second.
But I won’t be fooled by cuteness and neither will my girl!
So we’re kinda back at ch153 now right? Oh boy. This ep was a roller coaster, but the good kind!
Anime, if you’re gonna include new scenes ya better have Emma slap Norman when she confronts him this time.
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kozuangel · 3 years
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SO NO ONE WAS GONNA TELL ME THAT TPN S2 EP1 CAME OUT TODAY.......... I WAS RLLY SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT THRU A GIFSET ON MY DASH HUH..............
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cburgosss · 3 years
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FINISHED TPN S2 EP1 AND THE CLIFFHANGER and ray is so smary holy shiy djhxhxhxxhhxhxhx
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Ray's smile peoples... Ray's smile..........
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You know shit got real when the promised neverland makes it to the Tumblr trending list
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Rip Lani 2038-2046
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Hello I'm interrupting your daily schedule because THAT FIRST EPISODE OH MY GOD IT'S HERE IT'S FINALLY HERE EVERYTHING IS SO GOOD AND IT'S ANIMATED THE BABIES ARE ANIMATED MUSICA AND SONJU ARE ANIMATED AND THEY'RE DUBBED AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND THERE'S A BREATHTAKING OPENING AND THERE'S WONDERFUL ENDING AND I'm Crying
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stray-tori · 3 years
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More TPN S2 demon thoughts
@just-like-playing-tag​ on TPN S02E01 Thoughts:
I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty confident that when Gilda says at the start “it's a completely different forest from where we came” she's not referring to another forest they've seen after escaping, but to the forest they were used to back at the House, the one they used to play tag in. Anyway I loved hearing your thoughts, they're so on point 💕💕 Have you got any particular opinion on the demons at the end?
I personally interpreted it as the forest directly after the wall cliff didn’t have all those magical elements at least for a bit, they then reached that cliff where they looked over the land (which is probably what they mean when they say “we saw a river from above”) and then when they went further I assume that’s roughly where we start and that’s when the fantastical elements begin.
So it’s not another forest per se but the environment changed a bit.
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ANYWAY. NEXT QUESTION.
Have you got any particular opinion on the demons at the end?
Sadly my opinion is very much impacted by vague knowledge I already have but my pure anime-only friends’ reaction was “welp, they landed on another farm”, but as it went on, they kind of went away from that idea, thinking it’d be unlikely for them to be so peaceful. they also thought that they’re part of Minerva’s group since they were heading there, but I wasn’t not sure if they’ve been on the way for that long - plus, at the end demon girl confirmed that she doesn’t know who he is, so that’s obsolete. Plus that’s interesting considering he seems to be a fairly wide-spread human books publisher / author / whatever, so either there’s a huge disconnect between human and demon society or they’ve simply always lived in that forest, and therefore don’t know).
I’m pretty curious on if this will go into some philosophical elements (with the whole eating living beings angle and all that fun stuff) or if they have a reason other than sympathy to help humans.* I also wonder if they’ve done so before. They seem to keep an eye on their region, since they acted pretty fast (even splitting up and exactly knowing where they have to go, which is interesting, I wonder if they have any sense or thing for surveillance), but I doubt that children escaping is that frequent of an occurrence, so I’m curious if there’s another reason they keep an eye on the region or if that’s just plot convenience.
* (reason to help humans:) like for example, they themselves seem to be a lot more human than the average demon we’ve seen so far, their masks seemingly acting as a replacement for features they assumingly don’t naturally have like horns and the multiple eyes. Or maybe Sonju just has another horn under the mask’s horn, that’d be funny I guess haha-
I’m not sure if the hierarchy in the demons’ society is the more human you are, the more at the bottom you are because if that was the case, that’d explain why they live in this random ass forest where we’ve only seen one other very animalistic demon (the one that tried to eat them) and of course the ones from GF hunting them, who are kind of humanoid but also really buff and big and kind of disproportionate.
So maybe the more humans ones are actually at the top since the muscular ones tend to be kind of disfigurated like the one with only one muscular arm in S1 (then again that could also be an argument for them being higher since they have brute force, but they seem more like a tool to me) and their masks (...?? Im not sure what they are, I thought it was some bone thing, but then in the OP this happens, SO I’M JUST CONFUSION) seem kind of clunky.
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now that I look at it properly, how does that even work??? we’ve seen demons with two eyes before, their eyes were centered and big
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and worked like normal eyes, so why are there so many tiny eyes WHAT- that’S NOT HOW EYES WORK.
Either way, what I was actually gonna mention is that the demon below the bone mask thing (and potentially going berserk or something, idk what he did to his eyes :D) actually looks a lot like the demon that wants to eat them in Ep1.
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I’m not sure if this implies that
a) this demon is a went-berserk or whatever demon
b) they are simply both demons and so they look alike
c) one stems from the other evolutionary.
Demons in general (see above) seem awfully engineered at times, like the ones I mentioned above and demon “dogs” who run on all 4 legs. (interestingly, and I didn’t really notice it the first time) They even bump into the trees when chasing Ray so they don’t seem to have great maneuvering abilities since they’re so big and heavy.
And while I like the idea of demons being some engineered species by humans or something, I don’t think that’s likely when they seem to have been around for such a long time (GF farm alone has had like 50000 children according to their IDs after all; see my year count post which could of course be wrong! they could be farming a lot more per year but even so, for them to be genetically engineered from the ground up would require them to have farmed like 500 children per year if they “took over” 100 years ago, which clearly isn’t happening in GF at least), so I guess it’s evolutionary (or maybe not, I mean those eyes are whack, so it could also be some magic evolution or something).
Of course it could be that demons are fairly new to the picture and some humans just want to kill off some humans and do some brain research but I feel like they could do that without the entire farm setup and demons too. So I assume, while that technically could be a part of the motivation in the human and demons deal hinted in the OP, it’s probably a given that demons aren’t stemming from humans (but if they do, that’d be very ironic. Imagine bio engineering a species which then forces you to make a deal hsuajds)
In short: I don’t know anything, actually.
WHAT I MEANT TO GET AT ORIGINALLY, if Sonju and the demon girl (i dont think her name was said yet, I apologize if it was - also noteably a female demon! I wonder if that’s why they’re hiding / seemingly living separated. Are girls just not wanted in demon society? there aren’t any in the farm force, neither in the higher ups that we’ve seen in S1 so I’m... HM.) [they] are more humanoid and if that means they’re “higher rank” then I could see them having rejected the society in part and that’s why they’re living in that forest seemingly on their own (though we haven’t seen the rest of their base of course).
So. I hope those thoughts weren’t a complete mess sauihasj (after rereading I can def say they are but I don’t know how to structure them so. good luck)
thanks for reading if you did.
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