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ministarfruit · 4 months
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having normal thoughts about the demon king today
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thiscrimsonsoul · 4 years
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Not to mix up lores, but what would Wanda do if she could visit Stephen King's "Pet Sematary" and she still had Pietro's/Vision's bodies nearby? (Although I don't think it would work with Vision because... He's a super complex being! And I'm assuming you know what happens because you write so well, I'm sure you read a lot) Would Wanda try to bring them back despite the warnings? Or would she let them rest?
{out of paprikash} Oh, this is such a cool question! Lots to discuss here. I’m a big horror book and movie buff and I love both for “Pet Sematary.” So... I think it would depend on Wanda’s mental state at the time, and exactly how much she was told about the results of burying someone at the “Pet Sematary.” Let’s do a best case/worst case scenario thing, shall we?
Best case scenario, Wanda is of relatively sound mind and is shown or told pretty compelling stories to make her think twice. Maybe she was shown a news article of what happened to the Creeds or some other family affected by the place, or she had someone explain to her in gory detail what happened. Hmm... I guess for the benefit of my followers who may not know the story, I should explain a bit so that everyone understands. You know what? Under the cut because I ended up rambling on FOREVER with this ask, haha...
“Pet Sematary,” spelled incorrectly because it was supposed to have been written on a sign by young children, was a place where you could bury the dead and have them come back to life. Sort of, heh. Started as a graveyard where kids buried their pets, it was an evil place that twisted whatever was buried there. It was located on an Indian burial ground (very trope-ish, I know), and basically the premise was that the ground had “gone sour.” Whatever you buried there would come back to you, so I mean it did work, but there were consequences. There was one iconic line in the original movie, I forget whether it was in the book too, I read it so many years ago, but it was, “Sometimes, dead is better.” In other words, as painful as it is to lose someone, it’s even more so to have their memory twisted or overwritten by some perversion or obscene likeness of them. It’s also even more painful to deal with all the other associated consequences, of which there were many...
The first initial moments of the animal or person coming back to you might be nice, only because it takes a while for the full evil to set in, and of course you wanted your loved one back, so seeing them again makes you happy. But pretty soon you would notice them having some weird behaviors. They might stare at you creepily, might want to eat raw meat, might be angrier or crueler than you remember them, might be obsessed with weapons or sharp objects. And the more you either question the behavior or try to correct it, the angrier and more frustrated the person or animal becomes.
The next stage is them trying to harm or even kill random people and animals around you or even people in your family or your friends. The resurrected person or animal becomes more and more violent and murderous, and less like the loved one you buried. Their actions become more impulsive, less rational, and more instinctual, like a crazed animal more than a healthy one or a sane person. They might drool, growl, hit their head against the wall... just really strange things, even as they harm or kill everyone around you.
The last stage is them hunting and killing you, the person who buried them. In fact, there was a rule for this. “You bury your own.” It’s kindof like well... if you want this done, if you want this person or animal to come back and are basically willing to spit in the face of the laws of nature to make it happen, then you have to take responsibility for the associated consequences. And it becomes really cruel and heartbreaking because they will try to lure you to them with false kindness and love.
So... at the point at which they’re trying to kill you, you’re probably on to them by now and wanting to re-kill them to get them to stop killing your family and friends. But they’re a loved one too, and they know it, and they’ll use it. So if it’s a cat, it’ll mew softly or purr at your leg before jumping at your throat. If it’s a spouse, they’ll try to hug you or kiss you as they’re raising a knife to your back. if it’s a child, they’ll cry for mommy or daddy as they conceal a scalpel or some other weapon to harm you with as soon as you pick them up. They might ask you, “Why are you doing this to me?” while looking super sad, and the second you start to break down and regret things, they’ll move in for the kill. So they really use your love for them as a weakness to get to you, which is a very sad concept.
The premise is a lot like, for those of you who love the horror genre, the second story of Trilogy of Terror II (1996). A woman whose son drowned in the ocean near their home performs an occult ritual to bring him back. The boy does come back, and he seems confused, disoriented, cold, but otherwise fine. Very quickly, however, he becomes mouthy, demanding, disobedient, destructive... and eventually he ends up trying to kill his mom. The punch line of the story is that the boy didn’t drown accidentally, but rather he jumped off the cliffs and into the water to get away from his controlling and abusive mother. The boy’s soul didn’t want to come back, so something else came back instead. Something evil. Well Pet Sematary is the same kind of deal. It’s almost like Celtic stories of changelings, how it looks exactly like the person you know, but doesn’t act like them at all.
The upshot is that anything buried at the Pet Sematary would come back in the body you buried (which had it’s own downsides if the body was badly destroyed during the person’s death, and the person/animal would smell really bad, because they are in fact still dead) but the soul of the person you loved wouldn’t be inside. Instead, there was something else, soulless, evil, demonic, whatever you wanted to infer it was. And it was always just... utterly remorseless, entirely without empathy, and would always just tear apart the life of the person who buried the body before actually killing them too. I think there was a lesson here, or maybe a few lessons, something to the effect of, death is permanent and there’s not coming back from it. But also... there are consequences for imagining yourself above the laws of nature. And also... shame on you for disturbing the rest of a person who may not want to come back. Whether they wanted to die or prefer to remain dead now that they are, it’s seen as total selfish hubris on the part of the person burying their dead loved one because it’s about easing your pain instead of letting your loved one rest in peace.
Okay so now that I’ve blabbed on and on about that... the best case scenario for Wanda is if she’s fairly mentally stable, maybe just grieving but has not lost touch with reality yet, and that she is swayed by the stories she reads/hears. Wanda does believe in demons, she is superstitious, and she is very fearful of things like damning souls for eternity. It’s why she is so disturbed by what she feels when Pietro dies and interprets it partially from what she actually feels but partially out of fear and grief as him ending up in some sort of hell or place where his soul is being tortured in some way. So she does believe in such things and Pietro and Vision both are two people she loved so fiercely that if she is in her right mind, she would not play around with anything that might damn them, punish them, torture them, or twist their natures at all.
With Pietro and his love of running and athletics and with Vision and his unique body, Wanda would not be attracted to the idea of bringing them back in bodies that are falling apart, rotting, or otherwise continuing to die even though they are animated. That’s... perverted to her. It’s a perversion of nature and of their bodies which she values because they were important to them, so she would never want to bring them back in any condition that would upset them or be anything less than the ideal they would want to live in.
But I think the real kicker that would really drive home for her that this is a bad idea and something she wouldn’t mess with is if someone explained to her that it wouldn’t be the soul of the person she actually loves being brought back. It’d be their body, but something dark inside them. That would really both scare her and turn her off to the whole idea.
Also, something I just thought of... is that if Wanda actually went to the Pet Sematary - and this is my own headcanons to some extent - she might be able to read the land? Wanda reads minds, yes, but she is also attuned to certain energies and very empathetic. She might either sense the evil of the land, the “sourness,” as it were... or she might maybe pick up on residual emotions from people who had been victimized by the land. That would also be a huge deterrent to her actually going through with anything.
NOW... heh... WORST case scenario. So let’s say this is a post-Endgame Wanda who did not adjust well and is now grieving Vision along with Pietro and her parents and Natasha and Tony and anybody else she’s lost. Maybe she tries to use her own powers to bring Vision back and it doesn’t work. She’s getting exhausted, run down, frustrated, more grief-stricken, and now she’s losing touch with reality. She’s seeing things. She’s sleep-deprived. She’s not eating well. And all of that is making her so desperate to just have somebody come back to her. That version of Wanda might actually go through with it. Although at that point, she’d have to do Vision because there wouldn’t be enough of a body left from Pietro to try it with him. I don’t see Wanda doing it with Pietro after Ultron, I just don’t see her being that mentally unstable yet at that point in her life to make such an unwise decision. But after Endgame? Yeah. Maybe. But for now we’ll assume she buries Vision there.
So... this is actually gonna get real sad, real fast, heh, because there’s no happy ending here at all. One outcome is that Vision goes on a rampage and starts killing people and other Avengers have to find some way to kill him, in which case Wanda would seriously lose her shit to see Vision killed a third time. I think if she’s mentally unstable enough to bury him in the sour land after all those warnings, then she might actually be able to look past whatever evil he was doing and just be utterly delusional about it and insist that he’s fine. So... seeing him killed again would really unhinge her and she might start trying to kill people... at which point... the remaining Avengers would have to either kill or subdue her.
Another outcome is that Vision stays around Wanda for a most part or at least doesn’t draw too much attention to himself and goes right for her, of course with the intent to kill her. But I think at this point Wanda would be so happy to see him in any form that her reaction would be similar to that of Louis Creed when he buried his wife Rachel. For those who haven’t seen the movie (the 1989 version, anyway, I haven’t seen the 2019 one yet), Louis by this time had lost the family cat, his toddler son, his neighbor, and then his wife. Well... the toddler son killed the wife, heh, because he was buried first. But yeah. By the time his wife is killed and he’s forced to re-kill his toddler son, Louis is pretty freakin’ unhinged mentally, heh. He’s just broken by his pain and when Rachel comes back dripping with goo and just her face is falling apart and it’s just nasty, haha... he doesn’t even see it. He only sees his wife, and he’s happy, and he hugs her and kisses her, and she stabs him in the back, heh. It’s gross but it’s also really just heartbreaking to me because he’s so broken by that point. I think a similar situation would happen with Wanda, where she would just be so far gone mentally that she would just be happy to see Vision and would go to him, not knowing or caring that he is pretty much just going to kill her. And that.... gosh, that thought just breaks my heart to pieces. 
Thank you so much for sending this in, this was a really fun hypothetical, fictional exercise for my brain, haha. Like... I really had a lot of fun writing this and imagining all the possibilities. If there’s anything I didn’t cover or you think of other related questions, feel free to send them in, because this was a really interesting rabbit hole to go down! =)
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paymeintea · 7 years
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Ruki - Dark Prologue Translation under the cut
Kou: Okay, then I’m going to hurry and prepare! I’ve got a lot I wanna bring
Yuma: You’re going to bring a bunch of stuff you don’t need, aren’t you?
Kou: Well, you’re going to bring a lot of sugar cubes right?
Azusa: Are my seven spices… banned too…?
Yui: (It hasn’t been long since we heard the news about Karlheinz-san’s death, I’m worried about them feeling upset about it… but everyone seems alright. I’m a little relieved… I guess? … But—)
Ruki sighs
Ruki: Hm… what is it?
Yui: Ah, nothing. Just… I was wondering whether you were preparing as well, Ruki-kun
Ruki: Unlike the others, I don’t have anything I would really like to bring.
Yui: I see… (… I’m still worried about Ruki-kun. He’s really been acting differently lately. Ruki-kun always worries too much by himself, so I’m concerned. Even though he doesn’t say it… he’s still worried about the Adam and Eve situation too. And, on top of that, Karlheinz-san’s thing too—)
Flashback
At the Sakamaki castle
Ruki: Karlheinz-sama is… dead…?
Shu: Yeah. I don’t care either way, but I thought you should be told at least.
Kou: That man is…
Yuma: … Are you serious?
Azusa: … We can’t see him anymore…
Shu: That’s why I called you here. That’s all, you can leave now.
Shu walks off
Ruki: … Karlheinz-sama…
Yui: (Ruki-kun…)
Scene change to the balcony at the Mukami mansion
Ruki: ……
Yui: Ruki-kun… you still can’t sleep?
Ruki: … It’s you. I told you you could go to sleep earlier if you liked.
Yui: Yes… but I was worried. Are you okay?
Ruki: Yes, it’s nothing… or so I want to say, but even I’m not sure.
Yui: It was a shock… wasn’t it.
Ruki: Yes, it was. Losing him is one of course, but… did you hear? Karlheinz-sama’s heir was Sakamaki Shu.
Yui: Then Shu-san was the person who inherited his power and position?
Ruki: That’s how it looks. However you look at it, he’s the oldest son and it’s only obvious to say that it could be him… the eldest son. Of course he’d favour his real children. Especially over the sons that don’t share his blood… 
Yui: (—Back then, I couldn’t say that I was sure that… he’d thought of everyone as important to him to the same degrees. Ruki-kun and Shu-san were both important as eldest sons, however he couldn’t choose Ruki-kun; he used to be human, and wasn’t a pure vampire, Ruki-kun… didn’t have the ability to become Adam. When I think of it… I feel like he wouldn’t accept any words of comfort.)
Ruki: … You’re being unusually quiet, are you thinking about something?
Yui: Ah… no, sorry. Uh, I need to start packing.
Ruki: Wait. It’s about that…
Yui: Eh?
Ruki: Like I said earlier, the demon world is chaotic right now. In other words, it’s a dangerous situation right now. It would be bad if something were to happen to you on the way to Eden, so—
Yui: … You’re not saying you’ll leave me here, are you…?
Ruki: That would be the safest option. It’s not somewhere where we can bring you in the first place.
Yui: But—!
Ruki: There’s only one thing you can do, and it’s to stay calm.
Yui: ……
Ruki: There’s no need to make arrangements. Return to your room and rest.
Scene change to Yui’s room
Yui: (… It’s true that there’s nothing I can do. But, I still wanted to go with everyone. I wanted to stay by Ruki-kun’s side. I was thinking about… staying by him and supporting him, but I’ve got no power so it will only sound selfish if I say it… I don’t want to bother Ruki-kun. I should stop thinking about it and rest. I’ll be seeing everyone off tomorrow after all.)
Yui closes her eyes
The door to her room opens, there’s the sound of footsteps and something creaks
Yui: … Hm… nn…
Ruki: … Did I wake you?
Yui: Ruki-kun…? What are you doing up so late?
Ruki: I couldn’t sleep. I didn’t mean to wake you…
Yui: No… it’s fine. If you can’t sleep, let’s talk a while?
Ruki: No, I just came to see your face. You can sleep.
Yui: I can’t sleep knowing you’re watching. It’s embarrassing that you’ll see my face while I’m asleep…
Ruki: Fu, what are you saying now. I’ll be watching your face until I get tired of it.
Yui: That’s embarrassing. And… you really came because of a reason, right?
Ruki: … You noticed?
Yui: Of course. I’m always watching Ruki-kun after all.
Ruki: I see… Yui, lend me your shoulder. Don’t move, and stay still.
Yui: (… Ruki-kun’s face is pale. For someone undead like him it may not be strange, but… it’s like he’s dead, and I’m concerned.) Are you okay? Are you tired…?
Ruki: I’m not tired, I’ve just been thinking… Sakamaki Shu inherited Karlheinz-sama’s power. That’s all I’ve been thinking of since then. He’s his eldest so it’s only natural, and not anything strange. However, I can’t help but keep thinking about it. I wonder where are he and I so different—
Yui: Ruki-kun…
Ruki: It might be selfish, but I had a feeling you would reply like that.
Yui: … There’s no difference. Ruki-kun and Shu-san, I think that you’re both great eldest sons. If you’re talking about strength, your blood is different. That’s all.
Ruki: Ha… You were quick to say it. Although it’s cruel to say that it’s because our blood is different.
Yui: But it’s true. To me, I can’t think of any difference between Ruki-kun and Shu-san.
Ruki: As expected of the kindness of Eve… I know the truth. He and I are completely different to each other. That’s why I wasn’t able to be chosen. I know it in my end, however when I heard about the disaster Eden has become, I couldn’t help but think about it. Why wasn’t it me. I wouldn’t have let it turn out like it has. Lately that’s all that’s been repeating through my head… will I be this unmanly guy forever? Even I’m disgusted.
Yui: It’s not that. If you’re thinking about it that much, then Eden must be really important to you, right Ruki-kun? Because, that’s the Ruki-kun I like. You have a lot of things you want to protect, and think of them as precious from your heart. I like that kind Ruki-kun.
Ruki: … As expected of you, livestock. You know exactly how to make your master happy.
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Ruki: … Nn.
Yui: N…! W-wait…
Ruki: You like it when I’m weak, right? So shut up and take it… you are the only one to save me. Yui.
Yui: Only… I’m happy, but you also have Kou-kun and everyone, Ruki-kun?
Ruki: You should accept it obediently. You’re too honest. We’ll be separated from tomorrow. Stay with me like this tonight… alright?
Yui: Yes… okay—
Door slams open
Yuma: Oi, sow!! Is Ruki here?!
Yui: Yu-Yuma-kun?!
Yuma: Oh, he’s here like I thought. Sorry to interrupt
Ruki: Really. What is it?
Yuma: It’s an emergency! The Sakamaki group are being attacked by someone
Yui: Attacked?!
Ruki: What do you mean? Explain
Yuma: I got the information from a scout familiar we’d sent out. We don’t know the cause, but their mansion has been blown up.
Yui: And everyone? Are they okay?!
Yuma: I still don’t know more. What do we do, Ruki?
Ruki: … We need to find out more about this before we leave this world. Let’s go and see the situation, first.
Yuma: Got it. I’ll wake Azusa and Kou.
Yui: I wonder if… Ayato-kun and everyone are okay
Ruki: … What bad timing. If it were just a little later, I’d have been able to spoil you as much as I wanted
Yui: Th-this isn’t the time to say that! Aren’t you worried about everyone?
Ruki: They’re not the kind to be killed so easily. It’s useless to just worry… more than that, the problem is—no, first of all, we should see what’s happening with our own eyes.
Ruki steps away
Ruki: You come too. It would be bad if something happened to you if you stayed behind.
Scene change to the Sakamaki mansion
Kou: Wow… it really got blown up. It was still done pretty flashy
Ayato: Huh? Oh, it’s you guys. I thought it was that new guy again.
Laito: And Bitch-chan too. Nfu, were you worried about us?
Yui: Ayato-kun, Laito-kun! And everyone else too… I’m so glad. You’re all safe.
Ruki: I heard that you’d been attacked by someone. What happened? Judging by the wreckage, the person behind this had a lot of demonic power…
Subaru: This wasn’t done by them
Yuma: What? Then who caused this?
Shu: I did it.
Yui: You did, Shu-san…?
Shu: I hadn’t meant to. I couldn’t control my power and blew a hole into the mansion.
Ruki: ……
Azusa: So you used too much in a retaliation…? Just from that it became like this…?
Yui: (So his power is this large? This is Karlheinz-san’s power… it’s a tremendous power before my eyes in reality…)
Ruki: Do you know anything about the person who attacked you?
Kanato: Nothing other than the fact that he’s a vampire.
Yui: He was a vampire?
Kanato: Yes, he was on the balcony and attacked suddenly. And I was feeling good and singing… what a rude guy.
Shu: Anyway, that’s all there is. Before it gets any more violent, we’re heading for the demon world. We won’t trouble you any further.
Laito: Reiji has already gone ahead and making preparations. We’re leaving immediately. See you, Bitch-chan.
They leave
Yuma: … They were attacked, but they’re not feeling nervous at all.
Azusa: But… it’s good they’re all safe
Kou: But speaking of, this is the house of the vampire king. Who on earth is this guy?
Yui: You’d think a vampire would be a friend at least, right? To think he’d attack despite that…
Yuma: Well, we can’t say much about that though
Ruki: … Could it be him?
Kou: Do you know anything? Ruki-kun
Ruki: On the way back from school, I met a suspicious guy. Yui, you remember him too, don’t you?
Yui: Way back from school… ah, the person we met at the supermarket? He at the apple that got dropped…
Ruki: Yes, I felt the aura of a vampire from him. However, he had a different smell than a pure vampire, so he caught my interest.
Azusa: So he’s like us and isn’t a pure vampire…?
Ruki: No, even more different. I can’t put it into words, but he’s the first type of vampire I’ve met like that.
Yuma: I don’t really get it, but… it’s pretty suspicious. Then he could be the perpetrator?
Ruki: It’s not sure, but such a strange guy being in this world is suspicious. Let’s change our plans. We’ll head straight for Eden before we get wrapped up in any more unnecessary trouble.
Scene change to the doors to the demon world
Yui: Then… everyone please be careful
Ruki: Wait
Yui: Eh?
Ruki: I said that you’d stay here, but I think you should come too. As Eve, a human like you might get pulled into the violence in the demon world, but if any more happens there’s no way I can leave you alone here in this world. There are similar dangers in the demon world… but they’re not dangerous, so I can’t let you out of my sight.
Kou: Wow, Ruki-kun is always so slow. If you’re worried, you should just say you want her to stay by your side.
Ruki: … Kou, shut up.
Kou: Fufu, fine.
Ruki: It’s already been decided. Come with us. Alright?
Yui: Yes, of course. (I’m relieved I don’t have to leave Ruki-kun, but… the demon world, this world, the situation isn’t good at all. Since Karlheinz-san died, the world has started to become chaotic… it’s not a coincidence, is it…)
Yuma: Hey, if it’s been decided then let’s hurry up and go.
Azusa: We’re leaving for Eden… aren’t we.
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