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wolfwrenbrainrot · 5 months
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truth is: they gave us everything so it hurts more when they take it
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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one of these is so funny to me 'cause, well, I would kind of like to see Ezra and Luke in a relationship lmao
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beyond thankful to have a cast that celebrates and supports sapphic content! Natasha's post is so sweet, but some of the comments show how far we have to go (x)
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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All the thoughts I ever had about SW ship wars from 2015 to 2023?? And why I ship Wolfwren I guess Idk
⚠️ DISCLAIMER ⚠️
I’ll be discussing the ship wars that are happening right now in the ahsoka fandom and compare it to how my perception about the fandom war that happened during the sequel era changed with the years). Oh, and I’m going to get into some tangencies that may not make much sense most of the time, so reading this to the end is on your own account. I ended up being a bit cynical too, but not in a mean way, I hope?
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I usually give up everytime I start writing an opinion on tumblr, because most of the time I just think my opinion won’t change anything, but the ahsoka fandom got “revived” (not that it was dead, but, well, we haven’t had any new episodes and to an extent the most of us move on to others shows a little until we get new content, like it happened these last few days) and I’ve been thinking about this show all on my own for a while (my friends aren’t really into Star Wars stuff, so they can listen, but they’ll never GET IT like interacting with fans online will). I’m explaining myself too much, but all I mean by that is that by writing this, I don’t intend to add fuel to the fire. That’s why i won’t tag sab//ra, r//lo or mention the ships just because I don’t want to upset those of them that can have normal conversations about media nor trigger those that can’t (which, thankfully, doesn’t seem to apply to all sab//zras). So, if you don’t like Wolfwren, you’ll only see this if you are looking for a ship you don’t like or if you’re invested enough in not liking it to check the anti tag. I’m not judging, we all been there. In fact, I was there during the sequel era, with a ship that is pretty similar in dynamic to Wolfwren. It was also pretty similar to a ship I loved at the time, Catradora, from Netflix’s She’ra. So, yeah, I was a big hypocrite. I still kinda think sapphic enemies to lovers is the superior taste of the trope, but that’s because I’m so profoundly gay it would scare the gayest gay, so obviously the ships I’m more invested in are sapphic. It’s a given. But my point is, now I see the whole R//lo argument from a different angle, that you can disagree with, but I believe is more realistic:
I don’t ship it.
Although it is an illusion to believe our taste in fiction is not related to who we are as people (because blah blah blah capitalism blah blah blah I’m a commie), it is possible to distinguish what we want from two fiction characters and how we expect to meet our partners in real life lmao.
(This next part I’m a bit uncertain of how it’ll be perceived, but I hope it makes sense. Please, both R//los and antis that may or may not be reading this, be patient and try to understand what I’m trying to say.
Yes, Finn was casted aside by Lucasfilm. Yes, K//lo getting a more prominent role in the films played a part in this whole process. Yes, there was a part of the R//lo fandom that was racist to John Boyega. This is also true for the Star Wars fandom as a WHOLE, because there was plenty of shitty dudebros complaining about the same shit they’re complaining today, “woke culture” and all that crap, just because they decided to have a woman and a black man as the protagonists. A decision that most likely wasn’t made by those executives thinking: “Oh, wouldn’t it be so great if we made a few minorities feel seen in this universe many of them really love?”. But it did that.
The Force Awakens came out and, despite being, at the same time, a remake of A New Hope and a continuation of Return of the Jedi, its new characters had SO. MUCH. POTENTIAL. And, limitations imposed by mainstream products made by big corporations and set in galaxies far, far away from ours aside, black people and women felt represented. It is one of the many contradictions of symbolic effect of minorities groups being represented in media produced in the system that oppress them (commie, warned you). Does it change things? No, not really. Isn’t it usually done it a way full of limitations that sometimes reinforce certain ideas that are pretty harmful? Yeah… Kind of… But didn’t it feel great, after growing up frustrated that Leia wasn’t a Jedi in the old movies, to have Rey? Wasn’t it awesome that black people got Finn? This complex (at least, it started that way) defected stormtrooper turned rebel? That could, maybe, even be force sensitive…? Yes to all of those questions! Tricky, isn’t it? By the way, I do believe that (before TROS) Finn had the narrative placement of Han (reluctant hero), Poe had Leia’s (rebel leader that gets captured and literally puts important information in a droid lmao), Rey had Luke’s (lives a boring life but has a calling to the adventure blah blah blah becomes a hero, we all heard it so many times) and Kylo had Vader’s (villain that’ll eventually get redeemed by the hero). All basic, old hero’s journey. A story structure that, despite being critical of, I eat up every fucking time it envolves spaceships and lightsabers. Getting back to the point, representation has its limits but it matters and the Star Wars fandom is full of racist, sexist pieces of shit and there was a percentage of the R//lo fandom that were too. But shipping R//lo isn't, like, intrinsically racist. You can make an argument for the implications of Adam Driver being chosen as a romantic interest (both by many fans and by Lucasfilm) over John Boyega, but at the same time there is, to some degree a level of which trope (friends to lovers or enemies to lovers) attracts you more. For me, it depends. I was a Finnpoe with a soft spot for Finnrey and an anti R//lo. But I’m obsessed with Wolfwren. Guess I like non-menacing men and evil lesbians. Wonder why Ezra Bridger is my favorite Rebels character and I ship Wolfwren. 🤔
Going back to the “Opinion on R//lo checklist”:
Would I like to meet my future partner by being kidnaped? No, not really. Do R//lo shippers want that? I think it's pretty safe to say they don't, even if they joke about it as much as I do about wanting Shin Hati to stab me. Because, ohh, right, it's a fictional movie about spaceships, galatic wars and space wizards. Yeah, I totally forgot about that when I was younger.
So, shipping R//lo doesn't mean you condone abusive relationships or domestic violence or whatever. Same applies to Wolfwren. ‘Cause, like, they aren't in a relationship yet, they’re not even friends or allies… They're on opposite sides of a war. You’re supposed to try to kill each other. Some people are just intrigued by the tension/dynamic between two characters and some others are just attracted to the characters and want to read about them fucking, and if it upsets you enough that you need to try to annoy people into stop shipping it… you need to rethink your relationship with fiction. I’m saying this because I had to do it, too. I went on with the mob and statements I agree to this day got mixed up with a bunch of nonsense and I thought that by being anti R//ylo I was making a statement, I was fighting against the romanticization of toxic relationships. I wasn't. It’s like that Luca Guadagnino’s film, “Bones and all”. Canibalism as a metaphor for love has been explored in multiple ways, by multiple artists in paintings, films, novels… Does it mean all the people who produced and consumed those works want to eat human flesh?
There’s also different ways of shipping an ETL ship. I love Wolfwren, and, in fanon, I don't mind it getting super angsty and fucked up, Killing Eve style, but I also love it when it's a slowburn romance with them going from enemies to reluctant allies to slowly building a friendship and falling in love. Do you see the range? Shipping is also about imagination, about overanalyzing things, about wondering what could character x possibly bring to character y? If Wolfwren ever does become canon, my perfect scenario would be the slowburn one, though I’ll love every second of them fighting and stare into each other's eyes until then.
If you ship S/b/rza, it doesn't mean you're homophobic. Unless you, well, use homophobic rhetoric to hate on Wolfwren and/or its shippers. This homophobic rhetoric can also be an attempt of being (hate to use this word) “woker” than the person shipping a gay ship and saying the queer people shipping Shin and Sabine are actually reinforcing lesbian stereotypes. Triste me when this is not the hot take you seem to think it. Maybe try researching a bit about queer representation in media, queercoding and the hays code era. Or try to put yourself in our shoes. As I stated above, representation has its limits but it matters and increases our ability to connect to the pieces of fiction we're consuming. In my case, as much as I can enjoy it, there's always gonna be a degree of alienation when it comes to “straight people media”. That's why I headcanon characters as sapphic. Because I am. That's why autistic people headcanon characters as being autistic. Same goes for trans people and other minority groups that do the same. So, in the end, it doesn't really need to be canon and even after today I’m still not that hopeful, ‘cause, again, it's Disney. If anything, there's always a possibility that, if Shin lives, she ends up being paired up with a random dude just so people can't call her a lesbian (this has never, ever, stopped a lesbian before tho lol). I'm guessing whatever happens with Wolfwren won't affect what happens to S/b/rza. I may be proven wrong in the future but I think they closed that door in the show, at least for now. Filoni doesn't seem that interested in writing romance to me, especially this time around. We are yet to see physical or romantic attraction being even remotely alluded to in this show. (S/b/rzas interpretation of Sabine's motivation to find Ezra or my interpretation of the tension between Shin and Sabine doesn't change that). It's a pretty sexless show (and I’m not saying they should have explicit sex on a Star Wars show, but George Lucas didn't shy away from romance and showcasing attraction and romantic love). I believe that's why he made sure to “discard” S/b/rza, despiste knowing it was a relatively popular ship in the Rebels fandom (obviously it doesn't stop anyone from shipping it, but it is an indicative of how Filoni intended us to perceive their dynamic). You know what I mean? Wolfwren happening or not, being or not supported by the cast and crew, doesn't change anything for your ship. And to be really honest, it is kind of funny to me that some people feel threatened by Wolfwren. ‘Cause, like, even if Filoni wants to make it canon, in the end it will be up to Lucasfilm and Disney to allow it or not and the best they gave us so far is Velcinta in Andor. Do you truly believe we have a better chance at getting our endgame than you do? Come on, guys. Please. I don't think any of us will, just to be clear, but even if Wolfwrens “win” this ship war, it won't be like some injustice or disrespect towards the s/b/rza fandom. Same goes for s/b/rza, because unlike Poe x Zorrii that was a last minute, pulled of their ass straight romance that only existed to send the very clear message that Poe Dameron is a heterossexual man (lol, he isn't). Ezra and Sabine do have a history together that I see as platonic but can be interpreted as romantic. And you will still be able to ship it, even if Sabine ends up with Shin. That's why fanfiction exist. If she ends up with Ezra, I’ll keep reading my Wolfwren fanfics and be happy with it. At the end of the day, it's just fiction. I care enough about it to write a long ass Tumblr post, but not to make me actually upset over a relationship that isn't my own.
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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not me watching anäis and bobbi having an argument over weed in the first day of my tolerance break lmao
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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THIS!!!
I'm hoping we'll get a tales of the jedi episode about baylan (and hopefully we'll see a bit of animated shin), but it would be in tcw style and I really really need to see rebels style shin and baylan!!
I'm late to the party, but I've finally seen Ahsoka and of course I have to write some Wolfwren about it. That hyperspace trip to Peridea took far too long for nothing to happen, you know?
Also, has anyone drawn Shin and Baylan in the style of Rebels yet? I think that would be neat
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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Round 1 - Bracket #5
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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Round 1 - Bracket #6
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 6 months
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Round 1 - Bracket #8
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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the problem with wolfwren fanfiction is that nothing that ever happens in canon to them will be as perfect as the amazing fics y'all feed me with everyday.
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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you know you can enjoy saberza without being mad at wolfwren, right? lmao
As Saberza shipper I thought Sabine leaving made sense, she's a loner, she doesn't like to stay in place for so long, doesn't mean she won't come back after a while,
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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when sabine use the force against shin and shin smirks, impressed, then what???
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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i'm torn.
a few of the problems I had with the ahsoka show (vfx, too many cuts during fight scenes and in general, a rushed season finale) would be fixed if it was animated, but on the other hand we wouldn't have ivanna and natasha!!! if it was animated and they had the same dynamic, i'd probably still ship them 'cause im a sucker for sapphic enemies to lovers and i've always seen sabine as either lesbian or bisexual (nowadays im more inclined towards lesbian!sabine, but it makes no difference to me), buuut ivanna and natasha are the reason why I'm so obssessed with wolfwren. they played them soo well. also, eman esfandi and ray stevenson were great and seeing live action anakin is always a pleasure!! at the end, i'm satisfied.
another cool thing is that with live action more people can get to know the ghost crew and maybe some of them will get to experience the magic of wstching the clone wars and rebels for the first time. this is always a good thing, 'cause honestly both shows are the best star wars out there. even if i sometimes feel the urge to gatekeep lmao
and to my fellow wolfwrens, the set up for next season is promising!!! I don't know if Disney and Lucasfilm would allow it to happen happen but if it gets popular enough, we could at least get crumbles of a reluctant allies to friends to something implied!! (obviously I want them to be canon and get a happy ending, but lucasfilm isn't as progressive as it likes to paint itself and romance in star wars never end well, so I'm not optimistic)
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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soooooo
we'll have looooong two years of the tags stranded on peridea, force proximity, homoerotic lightsaber fight, force bond, sexual tension, slowburn, enemies to lovers, abandonment issues, redemption arc on ao3
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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funny how shin seem to hate witches, but a character that would understand her struggles completly would be asajj ventress...........
I know ventress died but those two would have SO MUCH to talk about and their dynamic would be very interesting!!!
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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As a retired diehard stormpilot/finnpoe, I suspect that, even if they never become canon, wolfwren will be used for queerbaiting eventually. This time around, I'll try to not get upset and just enjoy the ride. Whatever happens, I'll just be happy that this fandom is full of talented writers, artists and editors that make my days as a college student way easier and happier ♥️
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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ivanna, love, WHAT THE FUCK???
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wolfwrenbrainrot · 7 months
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enemies to lovers has always been a beloved trope in star wars fandom, a prime example being mara jade/luke skywalker in legends, but suddenly when it's two women people have a problem with it fighting and attempt murder lmao
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