#//im not coming for ofmd fans

[feathersofvibranium]

Unpopular opinion:

SamBucky (from MCU/TFATWS) has better couple chemistry and makes a better actual (gay) couple/ship than Stede/Ed (from OFMD)

#sambucky #//it's monday and i guess i woke up and chose violence #//i reeeally wanted to like the gay pirates #//but like #//what even are they tho #//i know there's gonna be another season #//but for now #//sambucky wins #//heck sambucky wins over every other couple #buckysam #winterwings #winterfalcon #tfatws #caatws #//i s2g if marvel messes up sambucky #//in future things #//they're gonna regret it #//like i regret (for now) thinking ofmd would give me the closure of a gay couple that #//marvel is too damn coward to give us with sambucky #//im not coming for ofmd fans #//it's a great show #//i just like sambucky better lol #mun babble

[spaceshipkat]

congratulations! you’re now a pirate. your seventh most recent emoji is the symbol on your flag. mine is ™️

#akskdjdhdjsjs #why am i making another one #last one got 17k and i had to delete it #BUT I AM ALSO CURIOUS. COME ON LETS BE PIRATES. #REBLOG MY PRETTIES! #ive got editing brain #sorry #tag games #should anyone look at the tags yes im a colossal ofmd fan #it made me write fanfic for the first time in my writing career

[sensationseekng]

izzy as the eight of cups - giving up and moving on, courage and loss, letting go of friends, lovers, and old ways of being

(that's the inn in the distance)

eight of cups description from Little Red Tarot:

#is this ghost izzy on a ghost ship? alive izzy on the revenge? alive izzy on his own? ghost izzy on the revenge? yes :) #im so so pro Izzy living his own life and not haunting Ed and maybe coming back to visit and learning how to be actual friends with Ed #i came to this pairing for the x rated violent fan fic #but all I want for them post season 2 is learning how to be gentle with th each other #become trustworthy #learn how to love each other better!!! #Izzy is both dead and alive in my universe thank you for understanding #description from little red tarot is exactly what I am going for #(is this about my relationship w the show? maybe a little) #I’ve had this idea in my head for months now but when I heard the show was cancelled it was like well now I gotta make it RIGHT NOW #my horse girl past serves me well when it’s time to draw the hoof #izzy hands #ofmd #our flag means death #our flag means fanart #israel hands #edizzy #blackhands

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

The religious situation on the Revenge is a fucking nightmare. Jim is Catholic and hasn't unpacked that yet, Buttons is clearly a practitioner of Celtic shamanism (witch), Frenchie believes ... Whatever it is that Frenchie believes (afraid of witches), Ed seems like he's got religious trauma, from the protestants if I had to guess. Church of England type shit. And he's either unpacked that in a healthy way and is now agnostic or has picked up a different religion, or he has not unpacked it in a healthy way and believes he is going to hell which is probably only compounding his guilt, but if I had to guess based on the like "be careful what you ask your God for" I'd guess the former. I hope he picked up Maori practice personally but who knows. Ivan is played by a Muslim man and has a moon tattoo so ... I'm not an expert on Islam take from that what you will. Roach is not Catholic (just joined (under duress)) but Wee John seems like he might be (Irish, don't kill us sister I'm in the tribe, crosses himself correctly and tries to get Frenchie to do it also.) Stede's gotta get them a coexist bumper sticker. That's at least one pagan and at least one Catholic which I would think is a recipe for disaster.

#ofmd #our flag means death #im pagan so i inherently dont trust the christians #no offense #i feel like a lot of fans of this show have religious trauma #it comes free with your gay card

[thedevilandhisbride]

the whiplash i get from seeing fnaf movie theories then scrolling down to be hit with hannigram then seeing a shitpost then seeing an ofmd edit THEN seeing TWO HEART THROBBING GOMENS DIVORCE POSTS BACK TO BACK ALL IN ONE FUCKING LINE IS NOT DOING MY HEART ANY GOOD

#i literally cant take it #im losing my mind #why did all the fandom things have to happen in like THE SAME MONTH #gomens fans are still sobbing incoherently and ofmd is adding fuel to the fire and suddenly fnaf comes in and not only adds chemicals #to make the fire a prettier color but also to make it SEEN FROM OUTER FUCKING SPACE #tdahbposting #ofmd #good omens #hannigram #fnaf movie

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

This is a genuine innocent ask

Since ofmd is officially over, where does all the money donated go? This is not just a question for the fandom bit in general when ur raising money for a renewal but it fails.

so i mean, in general when a renewal campaign "fails" we dont usually get the showrunner saying outright "yeah the show isnt getting picked up, im sorry guys." like im pretty sure that most of the time, money that's raised for a campaign like this just gets collected and spent without there ever being an official announcement from the showrunners that fans should stop campaigning.

as far as the money that was raised for the first billboard back in january, all the money that was collected is long gone now bc it was spent on the billboard, the truck, the plane flyover, and the charity donations. and like, everyone who donated to that campaign knew that's where the money was going, and they knew there was a chance that the renewal campaign wouldn't work. so even tho the money they raised is gone, the ppl who donated technically got what they paid for.

when it comes to the second billboard, i have no idea what the plan is there. as far as im aware that fundraising effort is (was??) still ongoing, so djenks saying it's over kinda throws a wrench in that process. im not actually associated w the ppl collecting money for the second billboard, nor have i personally contributed to that campaign (or to the first campaign either, ftr), so i have no input or insight as to what's gonna happen w that money going forward. if u want more concrete info abt what's going on with that money you'd wanna ask @saveofmdcrewmates

from what i can tell tho, there are a few options as to what they could do with the money: they could ignore david's message and run the billboard as planned, they could forget the billboard and donate the money to charity, or they could run the billboard but change the messaging to something else. they might even be able to give some of the money back to the people who contributed?? that might be hard tho, idk what platform they were using to collect the money and i have no idea if they're even able to like, refund people. idk if the people who donated would even want their money back, or if they would rather the money still be used for the billboard, or be repurposed for something else. like i said, i didnt donate and i have nothing to do with the ppl raising the money so it rlly doesn't matter to me at all what happens.

#ofmd #our flag means death #save ofmd #ask #anon #mine #txt #og #s3 renewal hell #for the record also. when it comes to ppl criticizing the fans who DID choose to donate their money to the renewal efforts... #i think if u want to laugh abt how it's a waste of money that's fair. god knows i do the same thing #like im always gonna roll my eyes over ppl spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on like. funko pops. or sports betting. #or gambling in general. or tickets to see an artist that i think sucks. or expensive and ugly sports cars. or golf equipment. #or high-end fashion that's incredibly boring. or home decor that's as bland and impersonal as possible. #but that's bc these things do not appeal to me and seem like a waste of money bc i dont care abt them #im not gonna sit here and get mad abt how these ppl are spending money on shit i think is stupid so that makes them Bad People #like frankly it's fucking stupid to try and take the moral high ground over ppl having interests that they spend money on #laugh abt how u think ppl's taste sucks but if u try and make it some sort of moral issue then you're getting in too deep #i know it probably makes u feel superior to act like ppl spending their money on stupid shit are Bad People #but from the bottom of my heart: grow up #stop being so catholic abt everything jfc

[p00sy-d3stro7er]

I love how accidentally fruity (bcs i'm pretty sure it wasnt on purpose) Black Sails' Israel Hands turned out.

Like, his whole arc about Blackbeard, how he is at the same time extremely bitter about him and still somehow sentimental totally looks like an unrequited crush. He is furious at Ed for how he treated him but at the same time he still cant bring himself to hate him entirely. Becouse He remembers their good times, how dear Blackbeard was to him and perhaps this makes him even more bitter.

I'm also convinced that Israel had prepared a whole Independent woman, "i dont need you" ,"you're the Man but i got the power" type of speech when he found out that he will have to meet Blackbeard & was unpleased about the news about his death, becouse all his effort was wasted. And this is canon. Argue with the wall.

AND HIM WITH SILVER. Its fucking hillarious how he tries to sabotage Johns relationship with Flint whenever he has a chance with absolutely no reason exluding: "How dare they be in actual love when i was pining for my captain for 472828282 years and the only thing i got was a kick in my ass! 😠😠 I am not happy so neither should they! 🤬🤬" (I know Silver and Flint are everything but happy but you get my point)

And he is serving cunt honestly. With his whole girl bestie, "dump him" attitude to Silver, while being an old fuck with the greasiest most crusty dusty hair imaginable, and overall looking like this:

And when he doesnt sabotage gay relationships, he takes out his anger on John, constantly beating the shit out of him (which is totally deserved btw).

Oh and of course i have to mention his silly little moves with his silly little hammer. He is such an icon honestly.

#black sails #james flint #israel hands #john silver #captain flint #character study #kind of #i love izzy sm and i hate how underrated he is #like literally i have never seen a single post about him #also i dont want to be that person since im *not a fan* of ofmd #but the jokes about him being an old bitter prick sabotaging gay relationships #and at the same time pining for a certain Edward in every universe are writing themselves #also disclaimer before some of you come to me!! i dont think blackbeard liked him back #anyway. stan Izzy yall!!

[gildalilli]

Big spoiler warning for discussion of big moment in show

Im happy that the kiss was shot the way it was. Ive RARELY (if ever) seen a good gay kiss between straight actors lol they seem to have this tendency to smush their faces together while tight lipped afshdhd (looking at you ofmd lol) OR go weirdly aggressive so like… moody lighting, their heads blocking their mouths and focussing on the hands is a good touch to ramp up the believability just in case it looked at all awkward for the wrong reasons.

i just want to be clear i’m talking about this in the broader context of straight actors who portray gay relationships on tv/film, and how those actors and directors handle it. And GO did it so well compared to others in that canon. The moment had a “fic written by a woman” and “movie about historical lesbians” sensibility to it that i find hard to explain in any other way.

Dont get me wrong i believe Michael is down to mf clown adsgdhd the man fully filmed a whole series of softcore pwp and topped stephen fry in his first(?) movie role, and i know david can commit to the bit. I have a healthy amount of faith that if we just had a close up of their faces in broad daylight it would still be good.

im just glad it was shot in a way that communicated all the love, tension, heartache and queerness of that moment and there was no possible way to be distracted from that by watching the cogs turn in the actors brain as they psych themselves to Do A Gay Thing should that have occurred.

#s2 #spoilers #ofmd stan dont come for me i am also a fan and i know many ppl like to think of the kiss as awkward bc theyre both inexperienced #im just starved for gay passion on tv #that isnt TONGUES BATTLING FOR DOMINANCE or ‘okay 3 2 1 press face together and pray it ends soon’ #There was a touch of smush but it was befitting the emotions bc zira was trying to resist and i hope we get a tender and passionate kiss s3

[prettybard]

god i fucking love ofmd so much but some of the shit the white fans have to say abt the show genuinely kinda fucking hurts sometimes

#im just gonna ramble here but #as a brown man seeing people depict ed's first reaction to heartbreak as unrestrained violence and anger #hurts so badly?? like did we watch the same show??? #ed was healing and processing his emotions in a healthy way #but he was manipulated in such a shitty way by izzy... and fuck do ppl really not get that izzy doesn't love ed?? #he worships the idea of power that comes with the title of blackbeard #he doesn't love or worship ed #he said so himself #he doesn't think of ed as a person #he thinks of ed as this thing that gives him power #sorry i just needed to talk abt the way white fans treat ed #it's not all of the white fans but a good fucking chunk #and it makes me so fucking uncomfortable sometimes #ofmd #our flag means death #edward teach

[iggy-hands]

I only watch the ofmd fandom from afar but some people give the impression of not conciliating well how the show is light hearted and comforting but also deals with heavy subjects in a general violent contex. the fact I've seen people say there's no homophobia when it's the central driving force of the plot is the most exaggerated example. but it's also in this attempt to flatten characters into "uwu baby" and "who's right vs who's wrong" (or at worse who's an abuser) when the show clearly does its best to create a likable flawed cast. Stede is extremely insecure and a horrible father/husband even before he abandons his family. Ed is an abuse survivor and he struggles with anger. Izzy is an asshole and it's funny- I mean he's a brit working class caricature. those things interact and its what makes the show human and interesting. why try to smash it into a simplistic dichotomy. it won't work 😭😭

and obviously you know all of this. so I guess it's: thanks for having braincells 😘😘

I don't actually know how old this ask is, but, it's been in my inbox for a while lol, sorry!

I think observing from a distance might be the most enjoyable way, it's been years since I was this close to the centre of a fandom and it's wild.

But yes, you're absolutely correct, it's a show about flawed characters and their ability to realise they're in the wrong, and change themselves - if that's what they want! Obviously not every character is given this opportunity, nor should they be, but I think my main issue with people coming down on the characters either way is that currently, they're unfinished!

...maybe Izzy will get worse next season, maybe his racism/general abusiveness and manipulation will become his main character traits, maybe his arc is that he rejects offers of kindness and belonging because of his own prejudices/self-importance and in the end this destroys him. I'd love to see that play out, but I'd love to see whatever they do with him play out too.

Taking a break for a while really made me realise that actually, this is a comedy show about pirates? What Are We Doing??

I love the meta and the drawn out explanation - I am an English Literature and Media Studies graduate, like literally I dedicated years of my life to this stuff! But one of the main reasons for these analyses is that it's supposed to be a discussion, there are supposed to be disagreements and alternative theories, and you should look at whether the evidence is actually in support of what is being said.

It isn't about deciding what is moral/immoral content to consume. Especially in a comedy show, where the character people are angry about is so cringe-fail within the show itself, and who's worst traits seem only to be evident through close-reading.

One of the first things you learn if you take Lit/Media in higher education is that you can be wrong about a text. You can't just say whatever you want without actual textual evidence (and, pet-peeve, but I personally do not count interviews etc). And sometimes, completely contrasting information can be true - because of the ambiguity! Whether these meanings are intentional or not - this is unknowable. And of course you can have your own personal opinions or readings of a text, but it's weird to decide that because you are right, everything else must be wrong.

I also see posts that essentially read - "this character is deep and multifaceted and we should look closely at them. But this character sucks and if you engage with content that looks closely at them then you suck too!" And I can't help but feel that that's worse than if we weren't to engage with textual analysis at all. Ignoring the actions of "evil" characters, who shape the narrative, feels very dismissive to me - disrespectful both to the text itself but also to the real world issues that it draws from.

I suppose in conclusion, everyone continue to think critically, consume media critically, but also, touch grass sometimes. and maybe read a book too.

#woes of emily #hhhh should i main tag this?? #ofmd #is that. was that. a mistake? #long post #thank you for this ask/ a reason to say all of this essentially lol #i probably am wrong about some of this and that's fine. a lot of it is quite simplified and not universally true #thats because this is a response to an ask on tumblr and not an academic essay #i do think that fiction can affect real life. i think this is why things like copaganda exists #media is also a reflection is real life - whether we intend it to be or not. it's impossible for it not to be #but i also think the only way to combat this is to consume critically #and not write things off as problematic and simply ignore it like it's not there? #but i ALSO understand that engaging with a text in this way takes extra energy that we don't always have #especially when its for a silly. comforting. diverse. comedy show #that also just happens to deal with some big issues in a really engaging and often subtle way.... #it's a complex issue!! #im a big fan of giving people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to things #and maybe that's one's on me but #I'd personally rather assume that other people also. have braincells. as the anon worded it here #than swathe entire sections of the fandom in accusations of supporting racism/homophobia/abuse etc etc #🤷‍♂️ idk #it's a complex issue i guess and i dont have the answers #and ive not even been actively looking for them #I'm just a guy #ask #anon #ask to tag

[notthewriteryourelookingfor]

Just me planning out a short lil angst-comfort ofmd fic.

My brain: and then Izzy gets kidnapped and Stede has to go rescue him cuz Ed is so devastated.

#like ok bitch #it was gonma be maybe a thousand words and then it got intense #idk i havent started writing it uet #im thinking about it while at work #i may look normal but im planning a fic where izzy gets kidnapped & tortured and is so happy to see his captains when they come & get him #and idk maybe they didnt know hed been kidnapped maybe they thought hed just left and were coming to yell at him about it #idk #our flag means death fan fiction #our flag means death #ofmd #let stede bonnet be bamf #but still fancy

[gentlebeardsbarngrill]

02/05/2024 Daily OFMD Recap

TLDR; Cast & Crew; Rhys Cameos; Samba BTS; Samba & Rhys Goofyness; Wee John Wednesday + surprise Leslie; UK Launch; Watch Party Reminders; What We Do In The Shadows; New Watch parties: Love Birds; Articles; Fundraisers; Schadenfreude; Trends; Morale/LoveNotes/MORE RHYS CAMEOS; Daily Darby/Tonight's Taika;

Jeez Louise fam today was a seriously jam packed day! Once again Im worried I'm gonna miss something because there was just so much so please feel free to let me know!

== Cast & Crew ==

The Crew section is a hefty one today, so buckle up buttercup it's gonna be a chaotic and heartwarming ride.

Okay so, yesterday we had that lovely message that was edited from our beloved captain. But then our dear friend @meowzawowaza_ over on twitter released yet another part of the video that specifically went over Rhys' frustrations with the cancellation. Now it's less positive, but as she says, it adds another layer that is helping rally the troops to keep fighting. Here's the thread with the videos. Apologies if you don't have twitter... I don't have a link outside of there at the moment. If I find one, I'll update it here.

THEN because she's awesome, our lovely @lucyrosebutler decided to share the cameo she had gotten previously. Which he ended with, "Yeah, you be you, keep rock'n, and yeah, you be you, and do it loudly."

Before continuing with the cast & crew...

== Kudosboard! ==

Wanna send our lovely captain, Rhys, some kudos and love after all he's given us, especially the last two days? You can do so over on kudoboard.com! Thank you @madzilla84 for making this happen! Get on over there and send our sunshine man some love!

Alright! On to more Cast & Crew.

= Samba =

Samba, our favorite BTS buddy posted a new BTS picture + was making sure to shout out the new S2 out on BBCIplayer today!

= Samba & Rhys =

Then because our entire cast and crew is a pile of goofballs, Rhys and Samba shared this little exchange on twitter:

= Wee John Wednesday Monday! =

And well, then there was Wee John Wednesdays Monday! Where we not only got to see the expected three cast members: Kristian Nairn, Vico Ortiz, and Madeleine Sami, but a SURPRISE guest, Leslie Jones who crashed the Instagram live party.

You can watch the whole thing on Kristian Nairn's IG Here. WHICH I highly recommend because it was an absolute blast and got so many of us pumped and ready for more. Some highlights that absolutely cannot describe the pure and wonderful chaos were:

Rocket Jousting

Leslie fucking every alien in space

Leslie wants to come to a convention

Horny pickle ball

Jenkins is on board for s3 if it happens

They see how hard we're working on SaveOFMD and they said "they deserve it" (s3) and "so do we!"

Mads just randomly runs into Taika on the beach

Gypsy made a chest binder for all Vico's outfits @edscuntyeyeshadow ty for the screenshots here on tumblr

Oh and David Fane popped in because he's a gem of a human being. Thanks @madzilla84 for catching that!

= Leslie Jones + Convention =

PSSSST: Wanna help get Leslie to a con? Go request her on the Galaxy Con Websites! Thanks @insane_foliage on twitter for the suggestions!

= Vico Ortiz =

Upcoming cast events! Sunday Feb 11, 4PM PST, Vico will be interviewing with the lovely Samantha Rei on Instagram Live

= Erroll Shand =

I just, can't get over how amazing Erroll's IG Stories are, and how much he interacts with the goofy fan memes. I love this guy.

== Uk Launch ==

So many people logged in for the UK Launch of S2!!! Thank you everyone! The data teams over at @saveofmdcrewmates are still crunching numbers to show how things went the first day, but we can definitely see #OurFlagBBC trending for a bit!

Also Pink News was tweeting about the launch, and Wee John Wednesday!

Great job everyone-- please keep it up if you have the spoons! Wanna watch OFMD again? You can help support the UK Launch by watching it on BBCIplayer! Once again, if you are outside the US you can get instructions on how to here on @reallygoodplants page, or from this article.

== Watch Party Reminders! ==

= What We Do In The Shadows Watch Party! =

Tuesday February 6th, 9PM GMT, 1 PM PST, 4PM EST

Watch Party Hashtags:

#VamPirates

#SaveOFMD

#AdoptOurCrew

== New Watch Parties! ==

FINALLYYYYY we have a Love Birds Watch Party! Feb 9th - 9 pm GMT, 4 pm EST, 1pm PST.

Watch Party Hashtags:

#AdoptOurLoveBirds

#AdoptOurCrew

#SaveOFMD

==Articles==

So many articles today with the UK launch, including the Guardian again!

What’s On TV This Week: 5th February – 11th February

TV Tonight: It's the Final Series of Curb Your Enthusiasm

Our Flags Means Death fans get TV licence just to watch pirate show

The Best Romantic TV Series to Get into the Valentine’s Day Spirit

8 TV Shows Were Canceled in January 2024, Including 4 From HBO

Why won’t there be a Our Flag Means Death season 3?

= Fundraiser Status =

eSIMs and Sanitary Products for Gaza by Our Flag Makes A Difference is currently at 27% of their goal. If you're looking for a good cause to donate to, these folks have been incredibly transparent about all funds.

@One of the crew, @mcstuffiesphd is selling Jeff stickers as well as other SaveOFMD merch and donating 50% to the Our Flag Makes A Difference group for the above fundraiser.

== SchadenFreude / Trends Time ==

Thank you @btweenhisteeth on twitter for capturing this metric! Looks like WB Discovery is still having a bit of trouble with their stocks. Wonder why that could be?

Other fun trends that popped up today: Thank you @merryfinches catching a shot of the pile of royalty below.

== Morale / Love Notes ==

So normally I just want to say all the things about how lovely you all are, but Rhys posted YET ANOTHER video on cameo tonight, and I feel like his voice is the sunshine we all need. The longer one up, is dedicated to LGBTQIA+ folks with some anecdotes from Rhys' childhood, and another specific to the crew for this show (it's about 3 mins 10 seconds long). Please take a few minutes to go watch them, you don't need a log in or anything for them. It's just worth it to hear our lovely captain say nice things.

== Daily Darby / Tonight's Taika ==

And to end the night, just some silly gifs that maybe sort of but don't quite go together for tonight. Goodnight lovelies, it was a LOOONG day today, please go get some rest. Love you.

#daily ofmd recap #ofmd daily recap #daily ofmd recaps #ofmd daily recaps #save ofmd #saveofmd #save our flag means death #ofmd #our flag means death #rhys darby #vico ortiz #kristian nairn #madeleine sami #leslie jones #erroll shand #samba schutte #ofmd bts #our flag makes a difference #ofmd watch parties

[dykesagainstgojo]

obsessed with observing the fan advertising for the "contemporary trinity of queer shows (go-wwdits-ofmd)" happening at the same time now that all of them are about to/just released new episodes

you open xitter and see the go and ofmd fans going please watch our show we just need three seasons for the story to be complete please watch it we're already at season 2 we'll love you forever then you turn around to wwdits fans who are at the 5th season with a 6th confirmed and theyre like if you watch this shit im going to break into your house and steal all of your cupholders and then come back the next day with new ones to gift your mom then make her fall in love with me and wreck your family and also kill you

#just. thoughts #our flag means death #good omens #what we do in the shadows

[flowerboy-fiorello]

Hi I know that I dont post but I have an OFMD rant...

theres a lot of (younger) ofmd fans that are getting angry at the creators of the show because they "buried their gays" (in regards to Izzy Hands.) we all have a right to be sad and angry at his death! i love his character so much and im so upset but lets not use the term bury your gays for this show yeah?

Hes not the only (presumably) queer character, hes one of many. There are Plenty of gays, an abundance even, left. These younger fans did not grow up with queerbaiting like the older fans did (think supernatural, sherlock, animes like yuri on ice, killing eve, good omens even) and i dont think they understand the concept of bury your gays because now we're getting more shows that have explicitly queer characters whos characters don't center around their sexuality! (Wonderful) Usually bury your gays is a trope specifically used in shows that queerbait their characters and then MAYBE they come out and then they almost immediately die- or theyre out from the beginning and either they kill them off after season or they "leave" (a good obvious example is supernatural)

Anyway moral of the story i am sad that Izzy died he was my favorite character in the series but metaphorically speaking it made a lot of sense that the person most attached to Blackbeard died when Eddie finally started to live. Love you all ofmd fans ♥️

#ofmd season 2 #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 #ofmd #izzy hands #ofmd izzy #rant post #ofmd rant #stizzy #steddyhands #edward teach #steddie #blackbeard x stede #blackbeard #blackbeard x izzy

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

.

#not to drag up discorse from a few days ago but #when the izzy stans talk about their alleged harassment #theyre alleging a lot of transphobia for intra fandom harassment considering this is a fandom with a non-binary character that is canon #like which ofmd fan is calling you women #is this ofmd fan in the room with us right now? #im not saying theres no transphobia im just saying that the claims your making sure is a lot of blatant mask off transphobia #for fans of the trans pirate show to be engaging in #vico ortiz has blue hair and pronouns #ive come accross one out in out transphobe so far #in a fandom this big #im just pressing x to doubt #if its real i think the calls probably coming from inside the house

[bizarrelittlemew]

hello i love ofmd but im not in the fandom (i log onto tumblr every few weeks and see some fanart but that’s the extent of it!). my partner and i loved izzy and were sad when he died but thought it made sense. i am so curious: what is the discourse about??

oh boy. i am probably not the best person to explain this, but i will try to do so very, very briefly.

since season 1, Izzy has been a controversial character in the fandom and the central point of a massive amount of discourse. others (who have actually been involved, which i wasn't) have written much better posts about this.

in any case, this resulted in a bunch of Izzy fans sort of isolating themselves from the rest of the fandom, and somehow coming to believe that Izzy was the true protagonist of the show, plus some mind-boggling headcanons, ignoring what actually happens in the show and throwing away any reasonable character analysis (again, won't go into details here). very delusional. hearing these people talk about ofmd, it felt like they were watching a completely different show than everyone else.

so when Izzy died, these people did not take it well (<- understatement). some of them spewed vile shit at the showrunner, David Jenkins, and around social media, generally throwing a tantrum. the discourse took off when allegations started coming out of it being "bury your gays" and queerbaiting (and worse) to have Izzy die, which are bizarre claims in a show with a majority of queer characters (and when every other marginalizing attribute Izzy had was shared by at least one other character, who didn't die). i keep my dash pretty curated but have seen some truly rancid takes. i suspect that it's just a small number of people being extremely loud, and algorithms promoting controversy, but it set a negative tone right after the finale. my impression is that it's largely died down by now, and there are still far more people loving the show.

just like for you and your partner, it is possible and extremely valid to be sad that a favorite character died (and yes, his death does make sense for the narrative!). but it can never justify the amount of vitriol and hate that has been thrown at real people. i'd say the discourse about Izzy's death is not due to anything the show itself did, but because it didn't magically become the made-up version that a group of people had convinced each other it was through more than a year of staying in an echo chamber.

anyway i hope this answered your question somewhat and that you and your partner continue to enjoy ofmd!!

#asks #Anonymous #i hope we will see a big msscribe style write-up about all izzy drama at some point 🙏 #also i knew about izzy's death more than a week in advance and could just see the shitstorm on the horizon. scrolling the dash like 😬😬😬 #ofmd #ofmd s2 #like i'm not even touching on the worst stuff but this is my attempt at a “brief” roundup lmao