#Downfall (film)

[stil-lindigo]

the witch of the west

#I rewatched this movie recently #I feel like as I grow older I notice more and more in studio ghibli films #this character was so compelling. and her downfall horrific and awe inspiring #very eerie and cosmic. I love her. #howls moving castle #stillindigo art

[david-talks-sw]

As a quick addendum to this recent post:

Could the Jedi have done more to help Anakin? Sure. There's myriad more things that could've been done. For example, Mace could've sat Anakin down in the Council Chamber and gone "Skywalker, tell me what's really going on."

But it bears mentioning that the above scenario ⬆️ likely wouldn't yield any results. Because, well, Anakin barely ever opens up about his feelings or fears or past trauma.

He doesn't do it with Yoda, when the latter asks for more tangible information so he can tailor his advice.

He barely ever opened up to Ahsoka.

He barely did so with Obi-Wan.

And by Revenge of the Sith, he's even shutting Padmé out.

(Yes, part of it is due to the secrecy surrounding his marriage, but I've already explained my thoughts on why it's an unfounded fear at that point in time, and it's not the only factor behind his silence as he already didn't open up as far back as Phantom Menace, nor is it his only secret)

The only person he does confide in is Palpatine, who:

keeps enabling Anakin's flaws instead of letting him learn to overcome them,

keeps isolating him from everyone else.

And Palpatine's both the most powerful Sith in history and the leader of the free world, so he's always gonna find a way to worm himself into Anakin's life.

As long as Palpatine's in the picture, no matter what the Jedi or Padmé do, he'll be right around the corner, ready to undo it.

So at some point - short of Palpatine tripping into an empty elevator shaft and falling to his death - the only person who could've gotten Anakin out of that mess... was Anakin himself.

Would it have been difficult? Hell yes.

But as Shmi Skywalker (who let go of her attachment), Padmé Amidala (disciplined and principled), Obi-Wan Kenobi (refused to give in to anger upon losing the love of his life), Ezra Bridger (rejected the Emperor's promise of power and reunification with his loved ones), Luke Skywalker and Quinlan Vos (pulled back from the Dark Side against all odds) have shown us... it wouldn't have been impossible.

"All of my movies are about one thing, which is the fact that the only prison you’re in is the prison of your mind. And if you decide to open the door and get out, you can. There’s nothing stopping you." - George Lucas, SirusXM, American Voices, 2012

#anakin skywalker #the story is about personal responsibility #if the jedi are to blame for Anakin's downfall then that conflicts with the film's major themes #meta #star wars #sheev palpatine

[psykopaths]

#me & her watching the downfall of the world #romantic couple #a e s t h e t i c #couple goals #couple aesthetic #cute couple #couple #grunge aesthetic #grunge #art #relationship goals #romantic #asthetic #film aesthetic

[downfalldestiny]

One of the best monologues in movie history 🎥 !.

_ Scent of a Woman (1992)

#Scent of a Woman #Movies #Films #al pacino #Actors #Special #downfalldestiny #downfall #life #monologues #Performance #Moments #Blinds #حياة #love #حب

[bioluminesced]

worst teenager in the galaxy award

#paul atreides #dune #frank herbert #dune 2021 #dune messiah #frank herbert's dune #dune film #maud’dib #timothee chalamet #laughing at the timothee tag sorry its hilarious #i like his paul unfortunately #cant wait for his (paul’s) downfall #praying on it really

[thesherrinfordfacility]

Just whacking this out there, but I mean, much as I do think the "past exploits" comment serves as a warning about Heaven's rules/standards, and reach, and the fact that they've exposed Aziraphale's 'crimes' - sort of a 'you know what we expect from your conduct, and you've been continually stepping way out of line, and we're choosing to overlook it for now, but know that we know, and that we will know about future missteps as well, that we don't approve and could still intervene' flung out there for no immediate particular purpose, just to serve as a reminder - by and large, I find the whole restoration offer thing much more bribe than threat, and, well, frankly, personally, I'd consider a bribe of such proportions more concerning than any threat could have been, no?

hello lovely!!!💕 i think ive shared my thoughts on this in dribs and drabs over multiple posts but no harm in going over it again, fuck it-

essentially, i completely agree with you. splitting those two parts of the conversation into two, i definitely see the first part as a warning, and simultaneously an unspoken threat:

what particularly speaks to me is how the metatron hesitates over both 'previous exploits' and 'partnership', as if he's specifically searching for the right turns of phrase. trying to make light of it, keep it friendly and unassuming. but the small, smirky, private smiles, compared to aziraphale's reaction of flitting eyes and tight lips - it feels like metatron is playing a cat-and-mouse game... the guise of it being that it's all a great opportunity, but truthfully they both recognise the unspoken threat is there

(but - to clarify - i don't think the metatron realises that aziraphale has seen it as a threat. ie the metatron thinks he's being slicker than he actually is, when aziraphale is very much able to read between the lines).

i remember making the comparison in a meta somewhere but it just simply strikes me that - if we're continuing with the 'sleeper/secret agent in the height of the cold war' allegory - the metatron is playing the part of the seedy villain that is doing the 'i've been watching you all along, i know precisely what your pressure point is and why' bit that we all know and love from any kind of dramatised espionage story.

essentially, as you said, "we could still intervene" - ie. 'dont think that i haven't seen every single thing, because i have. i know how deep this 'partnership' runs'. there doesn't even need to be an allusion to what metatron could do with this breadth of knowledge - just simply that he has the knowledge is enough, and aziraphale can draw his own horrific conclusions quite easily, even if they never come to fruition.

(on an intertextual level, metatron kinda reminds me of how i'd imagine karla to be - from the john le carré novels... a little bit, idk.)

now as for the second part; the restoration thing:

i completely agree - this absolutely feels like a bribe. 'i know crowley is your pressure point, and you'll fight tooth and nail coming back without him in tow, so im going to offer it to you - this amazing opportunity that you can graciously bestow upon him! "go tell your friend the good news!"'

the metatron may well be disguising a threat in the exchange, but i do think that he believes aziraphale to have taken the offer to return to heaven at face value, in earnest, and therefore he believes that he has aziraphale squarely under his thumb (and none the wiser for it). however, i personally think aziraphale may be constructing his own hasty game - ie. using the offer as an opportunity to "make a difference" as he and crowley would see fit... but the spanner in the works was that crowley refuses to come with him to play on 'their side' in this little counter-game he's trying to devise.

in terms of functionality of bribe vs. threat - absolutely, a bribe promises a greater yield. threats only work so long as it's a) inescapable enough, b) serious enough, and c) the threatened person is sufficiently scared enough that they won't toe out of line. which may well be effective in getting someone to comply, but the problem with making people scared of you or hate you, is that then they all secretly want to see you ruined or destroyed.

bribe someone, however... give them something that they might have always wanted (or, as i think is the case for aziraphale - gives them the opportunity to give another what they've always wanted), and you have a greater chance of having an ally in them forever, someone forever indebted to you.

i definitely think this is where the metatron's reasoning lies. instead of threatening crowley's life, so to speak, he's offering him the chance essentially to defect - and that's way more appealing to aziraphale and likely to get him to fall in line.

for me though, it's all a gross underestimation of aziraphale on the metatron's part. i will die on the hill where aziraphale sees through what the metatron is saying - has indeed read between the lines where he doesn't have a choice one way or another - but chooses to play the part that the metatron expected him to play (of marginalised-angel who is actually the-very-kind-of-angel-heaven-needs, and therefore very-grateful-to-given-the-top-job-thank-you) so that the metatron will keep underestimating him. bribe or not, aziraphale did not want to go back to heaven... but if he doesn't have much of a choice regardless, he's going to make it work for him.

now this ask has led me to another thought: i do wonder if the restoration is actually a thing? ie. the metatron wasn't bluffing, it's actually possible.

the metatron is putting an awful lot of bank on crowley saying no, when by all accounts - even if the metatron was directly involved in crowley's fall - the metatron doesn't actually know him... right? he likely knows that crowley is resentful and angry still at having fallen, and the unfairness of the whole shebang, but does that guarantee that crowley wouldn't want to take the restoration offer? id hazard no - so the metatron has to have a failsafe for either eventuality.

either crowley says no, and aziraphale is left broken-hearted/rejected, and that suits metatron fine because then he has aziraphale ridden of crowley's influence. alternatively, crowley returns, and is restored!

...but is restored to the same position as he was when he fell - essentially like restoring a backed-up file where the last save point was ~millions of~ years ago... and that would suit metatron fine also, because then crowley is simply not crowley anymore. plausible deniability on the metatron's part too, for the latter option - 'restoration has never happened before, didn't know what to expect, but you've gotten what i promised you!' idk, interesting thought

#good omens #said it in an earlier post but i'll say it again: i feel like heaven (and the metatron) are terrified of aziraphale - #what he represents and what he could do to heaven if he were so inclined) #(regardless of bribe or threat they're sufficiently scared enough that the only viable option is to secure aziraphale within heaven) #(also to add to the karla thing - ttss: “karla is not fireproof because he's a fanatic... that lack of moderation will be his downfall”) #(and in the film: “a fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt”) #feral domestic/final fifteen meta #metatron spec

[filmloversociety]

Downfall (Der Untergang), 2004

#downfall #der untergang #oliver hirschbiegel #2000s #movie #quotes #films #cinema #screencaps #screenshots #ww2 #free gaza #free palestine

[mrsmiroir]

i understand that a lot of the crows’ characterization in the show had to be cut for run time and adaptation reasons, but i find the take that it’s impossible to convey complex interiority in visual media and that much of this recharacterization (mischaracterization) “had” to be lost in adaptation to be lukewarm at best. it is possible, it just requires good writers. the problem is that the s&b writers are not good, at least when it comes to this show!

#to be fair it’s not entirely their fault considering the development is also dogshit #because they are cramming sooooo much (too much) material into one show #and not pacing it well or developing the characters #due to the sheer amount of material #and the fact that the show is virtually unwatchable to anyone who doesn’t have a phd in grishaverse #sooo clearly catering to an established audience but that audience is going to be their downfall #also haha film major moment but #don’t insult filmmaking like that #it’s possible if you’re good and working with good material and genuine love #adaptations can be good !!!!!!! #change can be good !!!!!! #but shadow and bone isn’t !!! very good !!! at all !!! #shadow and bone tv #shadow and bone netflix #shadow and bone #BAT MEET HORNETS NEST !!!! #six of crows duology #six of crows #crooked kingdom #soc #s&b #grishaverse

[dareduffie]

me and the fictional character whose personality and backstory i completely reinvented from canon are so crazy similar

#me looking around like omg who did this #it was me i did that #me and the delusion #i feel like saying reinvented is a stretch #but also i don't think christopher nolan was going as in depth with arthur's backstory as the livejournal pioneers #guy who performs his perfectionism through control and has repressed all of his desires but has wishes stronger than even he knows #doesn't ask for things just moves the pieces until everything falls into place #loyal to the point of his own downfall #anyways #inception #arthur #jess mariano #spencer reid #finnick odair #bucky barnes #newt #kaeya alberich #hiccup haddock #anthony bridgerton #movies #film #tv shows #television

[adriartts]

if anyone asks im normal about that movie. yeah the one a total of 3 people have seen

#ready for a tag absolutely no ine has used? #murder on D street #LISTEN man listen. im bonkers im yonkers im thinking about this MOVIE #i like this shot and i like this scene. i like this movie. its cool. leafe me alone #'i always burn the originals' #banging my head against a wall. but im being normal if anyone asks #IDK. the mirrors the forgeries the ropes and the makeup. the murder. the intricacy of it all #its all so meticulous. but ultimately his downfall was that he was TOO meticulous. so that worst fear finally came to light #as someone saw that image for what it was. he is a forgery that was faked too perfectly #that dress. the model. the resignation. that fucking SCENE #'i always burn the originals' DO U EVEN GET IT. ahem #night fell between this scene and the one preceding it. how long was he just there? #alas. i am normal about movies and scenes. come closer. i can be trusted with weird 90s films

[bluerin12]

I miss bad movies

Pretentious and possibly unpopular take but, I miss unhinged cinema. Bad cinema. Less than perfect cinema. I miss the hidden gems that went straight to DVD and you had to borrow from a friend. I miss the absolutely insanely plotlines that made no sense but had you spit your drink over yourself and once more when you tried to explain it to someone. I miss watching a movie and having no clue who any of the actors were, not because you lived under a rock but simply because they had never been in anything before. Discovering weird little freaks who you kept an eye out for in future. The shaky camera, the lowbudget scenery, the movies shot in one room or in a forest due to lack of funds. The found footage movies that were clearly shot on an actual VHS. The 1hr 27min horror delights that started off understandable and went absolutely off the deepend. The movies that were just WEIRD, but delightfully so. Who had one distinguished actor playing a role wayyy out of their comfort zone and killing it. Movies where all the characters are terrible people but you root for them anyway. Movies where you literally have no idea what's going on. Movies where the ending is so fucked up it leaves you feeling like you got hit by a bus. Movies where the mannarisms and the intination is so absurd it leaves you breathless with laughter. Movies where it starts off slow and then something absolute insane and fucked happens. Movies where everyone is put together and and then dirty and screaming by the climax. Just... weird, jumbled, stitched together shit that wasn't perfect but you got such a kick out of anyway. Movies that would probably never have gotten made, maybe shouldn't have gotten made, but were anyway, and you got to see it. That had heart because holy shit, someone wrote and directed that, and you gotta admire it!! Movies that the critics hated, that your parents probably hated, that became cult classics, loved fiercely by a niche group it really rung true for. Movies that weren't polished and perfect and oh so clever that they made you roll your eyes. I love big budget blockbusters and a stellar cast and a clever story, and brilliant special effects. I really do. But I miss all the others. The ones that I imagine will now sit on a pile, gathering dust forever. That in the 80s, 90s, 2000s would have been picked up, and by god they would have given it a go. That you'd watch and go, "huh. Okay!", or that you'd decide okay, that one is for me. That one is going straight into my collection, into my heart, I have adopted this now. Because it's not perfect, but you love it anyway. Maybe it's flaws make it lovable. Streaming has decimated the chances of those ever seeing the light of day. I'm sick of seeing the 5 or 6 "perfect, polished" films we get once a year. Where's the freaky shit they keep in the vaults. That stuff is for me, and I miss it so much

#im ranting about cinema to myself again #and i will do so until i die probably #because im a sad little film freak #movies #streaming #the downfall of the film industry as we know it #pay writers so we can get the good the bad and the weird shit back #cinema #anyway kill netflix

[nibwhipdragon]

Your trademarks are either Dragon, very silly things or blood and gore (or whatever death games and stuff are counted as) :D

THE CONTRAST BETWEEN SILLY THINGS AND BLOOD AND GORE IS SENDING ME AKEJJDJFHDJS

This is all very me stuff you get me very well :3

I do think that the whole death stuff is fairly new ngl? You've made me think abt that a bit. Got into yttd, Saw, Telltale's The Walking Dead and a bunch of other death related stuff in such a small timeframe oh my. I think this will affect the trout economy

#tbh. only got into saw bc the first film was really good and i expected the rest to be as good #none of them have been as good as the first. help. #with the other death and gore stuff like yttd and twdg. probably enjoy those a lot bc of the themes #always a sense of hope in them. that things will get better #ESPECIALLY in yttd's emotion route #and with twdg. the Horrors occur but every season ends on a positive note #always leaves me feeling something. especially season 1. everyone should play season 1. season 1 my beloved #a game so good it was the inciting incident for Telltale's downfall #man. i sure did tag rant #i will stop myself here #ask game answers #WAIT I JUST NOTICED THE :D TOO THAT'S ALSO HILARIOUS DJSJDJDJ

[tangirlisfangirl]

im like this tryin not to blorbofy ricky jupiter park rn

#HE THOUGHT HE WAS SO SPECIAL AND IT WAS HIS DOWNFALL #wanna feed into it negl #but ik thats not the point of the movie!!! #but i wanna analyze him for hours hes so incomprehensible but SO. GOD. #wish we couldve seen him being digested in jean jacket i feel like that wouldve tied everything together so perfectly #nope 2022 #nope #nope film

[downfalldestiny]

That's my Weakness 😂 !.

#the killers of the flower moon #leonardo dicaprio #robert deniro #Films #Movies #Actors #downfalldestiny #downfall #life #Choice #Men #Women #حياة

[bootyful-seventeen]

it's snowing again and i'm hoping that it isn't gonna be a big one

#the downfalls of having window privacy film on my bedroom window. i can't see shit outside #but those films are great for bedrooms and apartments. especially the design i picked out since its supposed to look like stained glass #and it does a good job at dimming the sunlight so my books are protected on my shelf since the only spot i could put them is my the window #i just gotta order new ones to replace mine cuz these windows are bigger then my last ones so its not full edge to edge coverage i like #so i do get that one beam of unfiltered sunlight coming my room in the afternoons right on my bed lmao #but yeah if y'all are moving into an apartment or just like to keep the blinds open for light to come in i really recommend these

[ossifer-bones]

got tagged by both @rainboq and @thefiresontheheight for nine movies that have meant a lot to me:

gonna tag @uuuuutan @ianthe-fucker and @patchodraws

#i feel compelled to give context for three of these picks: #a large part of my childhood was watching VERY weird animated films that gave me nightmares like dead space downfall and planet hulk #which i think has had a big influence on like. a lot of things about me #meanwhile gotham knight is on there because i watched it when i was very young and there's this memory corrupted version in my mind? #and i can recall it very vividly