#Language discussion

[bookish-library]

Does anyone know a good resource for finding French words and phrases? I know there is SpanishDict for Spanish, but I was curious if there was something like that for the French language?

#Qsmp #Qsmp language #Language discussion #Learning languages is my Roman empire lol #And this would be useful for irl stuff #French #french tips #french langblr

[unionize-aromantically]

I think one thing about the "can you call someone an idiot/stupid/dumb?" question is that as it is now it's a necessary complaint, but also ableist.

There really just needs to be a word for

person who acts knowledgeable about something while not actually knowing much about it

person of power who promotes such

there might be more situations, but you get it. it's not about knowing, it's about misleading, misinforming or disinforming people.

you could say, "this is disinformation" or "this is misinformation", and "this person constantly spreads misinformation/disinformation".

But yeah, it's a bit longer? idk. maybe it's not a big problem.

other use cases of "dumb/stupid" also includes "bad idea" (which is pretty concise), "impulsive", "person I disagree with", "mortal enemy", "opposition", "short-sighted" (about choices), "close-minded".

#ink rambles #ableist language discussion #language discussion #discuss with me #language #rhetoric/word choice #word choice #conscious use of language

[litbysalplight]

Lit in slang

So the word lit is one of two past tense versions for light, lit, or lighted. The word lit is an older(?) slang word meaning cool. (Unrelated but: Lit can also be a shortening for literature)Now if you didn't know this the usage of this word would be so weird and out of place. I know I would probably spend days fixated on this, trying to figure it out.

Now why did this become slang? I have no idea. I am not knowledgeable about the development of the English language, despite it being my first language.

It is still a cool concept, for the word's usage in these ways does not seem to be related, and was probably for a completely unrelated reason beyond it's meaning as a past tense of to light. My brain went down a rabbit hole of thought, and pit could be correlated, along the lines of something being popular, and therefore "lit up" or something, but that is only speculation of me in my spare time. (read: sleep deprived) This is therefore probably incorrect, so please do not quote me on this, as I am not an expert. If someone knowledgeable on the subject would like to share something, please do.

Yes, the only reason I had this idea was trying to spell my username.

#english is weird #american slang #language discussion #random thoughts #ideas I've had #ramblings

[omrarchive]

i was looking at episode 2 for my simon gif series and i came across this small moment:

and i just had to make a separate post to talk about it because simon is so painfully endearing here. he just told his friends that he has bigger dreams than staying in his bjärstad forever, and you can tell he feels out of place when the awkward silence follows and his friends react in a way he wasn't really expecting. simon has a very selfless, kind and pure heart, and it's clear that he really values the opinion of the people he loves - seeing him feel down or inadequate when he believes he's "disappointing" them is just like a kick in the guts because my son my baby you're perfect and good and good enough. and it's okay to have your own dreams and be your own person, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. it's such a small moment but i think it really shows a lot of who simon is

#sorry about the rant will get back to regular scheduling soon but i had to talk about his body language here :( #simon eriksson #simon #young royals #young royals analysis #yr s1 #omar rudberg #omarrudberg #gifs #mygifs #discussion

[eilooxara]

Yeah - agreement, casual

Yyyyeah - So, here's the thing:

Yeahhhh - you're right and that sucks

Yep - agreement, brief, mild

Yyyyep - I know. Isn't it bullshit?

Yes - agreement, direct

Yyyyes - I wasn't sure, but on reflection I believe so

Yesss - agreement, hooray!

Mhmm - agreement, mild

Mmmmhmm - I fucking told you so but go on

#Eilooxara discusses language #eilooxology

[learnelle]

During my mini hiatus I fulfilled my dream of visiting Norway! The most surprising thing was hearing Lithuanian being spoken literally everywhere. My mum and I always speak Lithuanian to each other, so it was incredibly bizarre for people to overhear us and then come speak with us, or to have waiters/shopkeepers switch from English to Lithuanian. I’ve never experienced anything like it before, and I had no idea so many Lithuanians live in Norway! I absolutely ADORED this, it made all the places we visited instantly feel like home. Despite all that, I learned a bit of Norwegian and discovered that it’s literally the cutest language. Language learning is absolutely wonderful

#But fr it made me so happy 🥺 I rarely ever get to use my lithuanian so this was such a pleasant surprise!! #When we arrived in Oslo we sat down at a restaurant and were discussing how ridiculously expensive everything was - #- and then the waitress came over and asked (in lithuanian) if we were ready to order 💀💀💀💀 #We were struggling to find our hotel and we asked two ladies on a bench who were speaking lithuanian where we could find it !! #At a food festival in Bergen there was a stand for lithuanian chocolate so we were tasting there and had so many Lithuanians come and chat #And soooo many more instances like this !! #Imagine spending 99% of your time not speaking a language outside of the country / without your family #and then all of a sudden everyone speaks this language in the least expected place. Woah! #If I wasn’t so settled in France and if I was a bit less poor I would consider moving to Bergen. I loved itttt !!!! #studyblr #light academia #studyspo #langblr #norway #cottagecore

[upsidedog]

i am so charmed by a lumax wedding because it’s not even something max thought would happen. like she assumed weddings were something the girl makes happen and the guy puts up with. and because she had no desire for one, so there’s no reason it would happen.

among other things weddings are an exorbitant and performative show of love, max loves lucas and she doesn’t care whether or not other people know or believe this. at it’s best marriage to her has been a representation of failed dreams and at it’s worst it’s been a tool to manipulate people who need to get away to stay. maybe they will get married for the tax benefits, she thinks.

this is until max and lucas are older and living together, they’re chilling on the couch and lucas mentions his family has been asking when he’s planning to propose and if that’s something max even wants? max doesn’t care, she doesn’t plan on going anywhere, a certificate won’t change anything and she's not crazy about parties. she doesn’t ask how he feels, he brings it up, that “actually i want a wedding.”

that is saying the least, lucas wants a wedding more than anything. he loves max and he doesn’t need to prove that to anyone, but he’s happy and he wants to share that with others! he wants to work with max to make marriage a positive thing to them, he wants to celebrate their love, everything they’ve been through. also, hell, he’s only human, he wants to show off! he wants to dress really cool and go to a really cool place and show the world know how awesome he and his girlfriend are. HIS WIFE!!!

most of all, lucas wants the moment near the end of the night, where the party’s getting loud and everybody wants his attention, but max asks if he wants to get out of there and he says yes. not out out, just outside the venue. it’s dark and the once booming music is now faint, they sit and catch up, complain about their families, laugh about their friends. max holds lucas’s hand and plays with his wedding ring, she whispers something sweet before asking him to dance. it’s the best part of the night and nobody will know about it but them.

suddenly max decides she wants a wedding.

#lumax #max mayfield #lucas sinclair #stranger things #to be clear i think it isn't really that max becomes excited for a wedding - i think it's more that she is incredibly touched by what it #means to lucas and wants to give that to him #i don't think she would ever be crazy about all that attention on her but she loves that it makes lucas happy and loves how much he cares #about her #and i also think lucas is aware of this. he loves weddings and the idea of being married is romantic and beautiful to him and he loves that #max understands where he's coming from and feels loved by his explination but also he knows it's something he will enjoy more and that's ok #lucas would be a very good wedding planner #also they would have this discussion then formulate oppisite plans catering to the other's love language #lucas would be like 'i'm gonna do something so private and sweet for max to propose' and max would be like 'i am going to go all out in #public to propose' and luckily max gets to hers first because it was way harder to do #nonetheless i am being cheesy ignore me

[thottybrucewayne]

When I say "I'm rooting for everybody Black," I mean I'm including Black people who are usually overlooked outside and within the community. Black people whose Blackness becomes conditional the second they confront other Black people about bigotry within our community (Transmisogynoir, Transphobia, homophobia, ableism, sanism, etc.) not abusers and coons...

#thotty speaks #thotty rants #its solidarity this and solidarity that until a Black person who has delusions tells you that saying shit like 'delulu' hurts them #Black solidarity until its time to make a joke about famous abuse survivors #Black solidarity until its time to discuss ableist language being taken as aave #Black solidarity until its time to listen to any Black person who lives at an axis of oppression that you don't then its fuck em right? #Then if they criticize you they cease to be Black right? #Its funny cause I never see yall take this same stance of conditional Blackness when it comes to abusers and predators #Yall can say 'they always trying to take down a strong Black brother a leader in the community' and the nigga you pointing has done nothing #but use his power and influence to harm people further marginalized than him and doing it all under the image of a 'Good Christian Brother' #I'm tired of yall I swear to God

[bookish-library]

Love letter to languages that are not English (as a native English speaker).

Your languages are so cool. Not only cool, but they are also so pretty, hearing people speak Spanish, or French, or Portuguese sounds like something out of this world in the best way possible.

To Spanish speakers: (personas que hablan Español)

Gosh yall sound amazing. From the incredible feat of rolling your "r's" (as someone who cannot no matter how hard I try) to how your letters interact in a way that English wishes it could, yall sound beautiful. The way of describing things is so beautiful, especially in song, everything is so romantic and described in a way that english cannot achieve. Your different ways to say "I love you", the weight each one of them carries, how your language bonds you together, strangers or no. I have been learning Spanish for around 4 years now, and I cannot get enough of it. Your music (I love Missa and Evan Craft) and the beautiful lyricism has me nearly in tears sometimes, yall have a way of saying things that english songs don't. I love the Spanish language and all that comes with it.

To French speakers: (personnes qui parle francais)

Your language is on a whole 'nother level because wow. Between the one pronunciation sound of about 7 different words that somehow all almost sound the same yet mean vastly different words and the way your words are built, English could never come close lol. Yall somehow have the ability to make noises within words and vowels that my mouth simply does not understand how to do (not from lack of trying), and yall someone manage to sound fierce, gentle, and graceful within one word. Your language is kicking my butt on duolingo lol, but it is worth it to try and learn this language. I first got into French because of Miraculous Ladybug, and yalls music is so fun. I love papa ou te [I think I spelled that right], as well as songs by Lnni Kim.

To the Portugese speakers: (pessoas que falam portugues)

Yall are so cool. Your language sounds like a friend you have not seen in a long time, but are finally meeting them once more, and they have changed, but they are still the friend you know. You've got vowels that english would have to amalgamate other vowel to even try and achieve a semblance, and you've got wayyyy more curses than english does lol. Your language reminds me of if French and Spanish had a really cool kid, that kid would be Portugese. It's rapid-fire fast, and yet somehow takes each step with grace. I cannot wait to learn this language, to attempt to wrap my head around this beautiful language.

This next part is just personal reflection

The qsmp has allowed me to learn so much about the world around me. I am finding that I can understand Spanish so much faster than I could before, and while I may not be the best speaker, just being able to listen and understand is such a fun experience. Though I do not know portugese, my experience with Spanish has allowed me to get a glimpse into this language, especially with watching Cellbit and Roier interact. Being able to at least slightly keep up with their rapid fire conversations feels like such an achievement to me, and has def inspired me to try and learn portugese one day. I am trying to learn French right now, because of traveling to France for irl events soon, and I want to be able to interact with people on their own turf. French is kicking my butt lol, but to be able to pick up words here and there on streams, or to understand bits and pieces of the songs I am singing is such a fun feeling. Getting to hear other songs that have such different rhythms, instruments, or tone is so cool, and if anyone has any reccomendations in any language, I would love to hear them. (Une fille de soleil by Lou and Adryano is a favorite, especially since it blends french and spanish) Qsmp is such an amazing project, and I love every time the cc's get into discussions about their language, or trade slang, or teach each other words. So excited to continue this language journey!

#Sorry if I misspelled anything or missed accents #my keyboard hates me and the only language I can speak confidently (ish) is Spanish 😅 #I just love this server and what it has done so much #This is brought to you by watching coco en Español and marveling at the beauty of the lyrics and what they mean #(El latido de mi corazon I'm looking at you) #Qsmp #For the library #Language discussion #Tried to write everything out so that it was easily translatable but let me know if something needs clarification! #And if anyone wants to talk in any other language #They are welcome! #Learning new things especially something as personal as a language is such an honor and so much fun #I spent like 30 min writing this lol no regrets

[ganondoodle]

with every thing i learn about what the directors of totk said in interviews it all just gets worse huh?

the thing about the shiekah tech just vanishing and nobody caring enough to look into it was already rough and now i learn they said that -after botw zelda wondered if hyrule as a kingdom was still needed but then totk happens- just sounds like she wondered if hyrule as a kingdom still needed to exist in the way it had been (which would be an interesting change for once and also make sense for her character) and then they took her back into the distant past with the super good guy king of a godly race to teach her the lesson what her place is and that yes, their monarchy needed and good and really given to her by "gods" and what if big evil black man shows up again

i dont have the energy to get into it further but needed to say soemthing about it bc it keeps bothering me :(

#ganondoodles talks #ganondoodles rants #kinda #anyway #zelda #totk #big yt theory guy posted a video about how he doesnt like totk and was very defensive about it knowing hes swinging a bat at hornets nest #and i was surprised by that and commented on it that he isnt as alone in feeling like that as he might think #and bc its youtube theres gotta be some weirdos #so someone really saw my comment in probably 300+ comments by now #and felt the need to say that they didnt get anything from what i said other than me writing -zonai- as sonau #which i considered replying to with -other languages exist- #but its really not worth to get into a discussion with some rando on youtube #i then discovered you cant block people on youtube anymore just mute them either #also their account name had -israel- as the first word in it so #something tells me they wouldnt be very fun to argue with

[vanoefucks]

But truth be told? You were my first

#bg3 #baldur’s gate 3 #bg3edit #astarion #astarion bg3 #astarion ancunin #gifs #his expressions r soooooo #his body language just he is such a full?? real feeling char its so fjkdf #i also love this conversation idk why #just discussing our taste in blood whats new

[decolonize-the-left]

Alright can someone explain to me how TERFs and radfems are NOT behind the growing opinion that men can't have words to describe their experiences under patriarchy or else they're silencing the experiences of women?

Like this definitely just feels like gender essentialism "men can't be victims cuz women are" bullshit, but I'm happy to be wrong.

#i keep seeing men trying ti find words for tehir experiences and eveytine they do theres something wrong #but also nobody wants men to join Their spaces or use Their language sooooo? what the fuck are we doing exactly #so men can be affected but they cant discuss it in their own words? ...cuz some of yall get the ick over it? or what? liek what

[clannfearrunt]

btw, any update on shiver's japanese personal pronouns now that the full game is out? theres a tweet going around saying she uses both uchi and onore and that it's a feminine+masculine combo, i wanted to double check and see if that is actually the case or if onore is a common pronoun for women to use? people are getting really militant abt this for no reason (unsurprisingly)

I think I've seen that tweet, yeah, and it's wrong.

So to start this off so everyone knows what’s up: I’m a native Japanese speaker, and I’m nonbinary myself. I’m approaching this topic as someone who WOULD LOVE to have canon, intended, Cisn’t rep here.

However, the situation in regards to Shiver is just a misunderstanding of the... complexities and nuance (?) that comes with the myriad of ways people can refer to themself in Japanese, and there’s actually nothing being censored by NoA when they confirmed that she is intended to be female. As of me writing this (September 17th 2022), there has been no content in the Japanese dialogue that ever suggests that Shiver might be intended to be nonbinary or otherwise some flavor of Not Female.

Before I even get into pronouns I gotta point out that her Japanese name is Fuuka, which is a regular ass girl's name in real life (albeit it's also being used as a shark pun). I think that if they were going to put a canon nonbinary character in Splatoon they're going to be more obvious about it.

Anyhow, with regards to The Question: the instance that Shiver uses "onore" is actually in the Rock Paper Scissors splatfest dialogue, right here:

おのれの魂をコブシに宿し、天につき出すその姿... 勝者のポーズゆうたらコレや！

I always have a hard time doing my own translations because my brain gets caught up on a million different things, but one way I'd write this to try to get across how she's using "onore" as is this:

"Placing one’s soul into one’s fist, raising it towards the heavens... That's the pose of victory!"

It's true that "Onore" has seen some historical use as a personal pronoun, but it's an archaic kind of usage in standard Japanese. It's not actually necessarily masculine either. Now, it does still see relatively common usage in various dialects in western regions, but mostly in the second person. I don't think I've ever heard "Onore" being used as a personal pronoun in the way you'd use stuff like "Watashi" or "Boku" (which is the kind of usage it's being confused with in that tweet) these days, even when writing fictional character dialogue.

That's irrelevant here, however, because that's not how it's being used here! It's being used to refer to a generalized "self" for theatrical effect, and not even as a personal identifier really. I'd say in this case a similar comparison in English would be "oneself" - kinda formal, depending on how you use it it might also be including the speaker, but not explicitly Just The Speaker. Does that make sense?

The like... connotations and perceptions surrounding how one chooses to refer to themself in Japanese is really complicated and context dependent and I DO understand how it might be easy to get confused! I can also see how people learning Japanese as a second language might have extra trouble with Shiver's dialogue in general since she speaks in the Kyoto dialect instead of standard Japanese. Shit's hard! Anyways unfortunately this has been once again a misunderstanding sorry everyone. We can do other things in headcanons, but we can't be going after people or the translators for this.

...

On the subject of personal pronouns though FRYE uses "washi" which has been fun because that is not something typically used by young people! In dialects where it's still common for young people to use "Washi", it tends to be more commonly used by guys, but the more common association is with Old People. Frye in general just speaks like a stereotypical Old Person though I love her she's great. Where's the fucking Frye crowd at

#asks #theyrezi #splatoon 3 #splatoon #Shiver splatoon #Deep Cut #i had an hour long discussion with my mom mulling over how complicated and nuanced this shit is and how we kinda take it for granted #bc we have an intuitive understanding of The Connotations... but how do you explain that to people outside of our culture and language? #shit's hard! i aint a linguist! i don't have all the academic tools to ''properly'' dissect and communicate this shit #i keep trying to backpedal to downplay the nuance of The Pronouns Shit but every time i try 2 actually explain it i Remember #Squid 2 the evolution of the squid #dedcourse 2

[jestroer]

I miss Iskall and Mumbo talking about how fucking stupid flat earthers are every single stream they had together

#shitpost #hermitcraft #mumbo jumbo #iskall85 #they are so fucking funny #i love rewatching s6-7 streams #like they have it all #reoccurring characters #like rupert the butler #reoccurring themes #like flat earth is stupid and discussing languages #being so fucking rude to each other and needing to clarify its a joke to chat every time #beauty #all go watch if you didn't

[quinn-pop]

mtdd week day 7 - love language

all that to say “i love you”

#mtddweek2023 #something something understanding what makes you feel loved umm #dedede knows meta has his whole serious thing but when they get to be silly it means a lot to him i think #mk definitely would do parallel play though #i know that’s not really what the traditional love language discussion is but i prefer this angle #anyway once again i think it’s funny to make meta do very anime things lol #moving on though! thank you for a good week #this was ironically the first comic i drew #kirbyposting #my art or something #meta knight #king dedede #metadede #quinn does comics #i had a lot of fun with this week and i hope you did too

[glossykris]

god I admire his bluntness

x

#my guy goes straight to the point #the whole language discussion was such a treat for me 😌😌😌 #im envious cuz as a finnish speaker we dont really have any big mutually intelligible languages #I just think it’s neat slavic languages can at least somewhat understand each other #I’ve actually played a game with a czech friend of mine where she tries to guess joker out lyrics lol #anyway now I want to have a two hour language discussion with kris #kris guštin #joker out