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tremorsmackenzie · 7 months
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just saying both Daisy and Peggy are nicknames for people named Margaret, which is peggy carters actual name. i love these parallels, i love that it connects two of the most badass women in marvel, who are both shield agents and i love how it unintentionally plays even more into daniel having a type lmao
"some of my favourite people are people like you" uh huh
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momentofch-aos · 2 months
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Today’s M’s Marvel thought of the day.
Peggy Carter writing and reading Daniel Sousa’s eulogy and Jack Thompson stood off to her left. Not her right hand side because on her right lays her right hand man’s caskett.
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sparrow-in-boots · 1 year
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at long last, the Desmond study is done!! enjoy <3
the actual studies and resources under the read more to not clog your dash. hope yall enjoy it mwah i love you
faces on chronological order
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and if you'd also like to study his expressions, here's my comps below
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redvanillabee · 1 year
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Some Thoughts About Agent Carter Costumes: On Style and Level of Comfort
aka ‘you won’t believe who actually is the little diva fashionista’
So in 2021, I set myself a little challenge: emulate the characters’ outfits so I can understand first-hand how they move and what historical outfits feel like. It’s been more than a year since I began that project, and I have some interesting findings...
Peggy
Peggy’s one of the reasons why this project was started in the first place. I noticed a discrepancy between how the historical costuming community describe mid-century dress, and how Peggy’s experience with her clothes are described in fandom circles. So I wanted to see for myself: how much movement do you get with ‘40s womenswear? Are they comfortable?
In short, yes, they are! And even though I started this project knowing that historical outfits are often more comfortable than we would think from our modern perspectives, I was still surprised by how much movement you get with stockings and garters. I have tested the action and yes, you can comfortably knee someone in the ***** in garters and stockings.
There are some caveats, of course. ‘Comfort’ with garments and outfits comes from familiarity. For example, as someone who wears skinny jeans all the time, including the summer months, the excess fabric of ‘40s wide-legged pants was a bit of a foreign sensation. I don’t mind tight clothing, so I didn’t have trouble with wearing girdles and cinchers as part of my ‘40s outfits. I also have got plenty of experience with heels, so walking and even running in them was not a challenge. I would imagine Peggy—and for that matter, most women in the AC universe—to be familiar with these elements, and find them reasonably manageable.
What I was surprised by, was that Peggy’s outfits are actually on the plainer side of ‘40s fashion. Comparing Peggy’s outfits to historical pictures, other female characters, and historical reproduction fashion, her clothes mainly consist of plain, solid colours. Ana and Rose, for example, wear plenty of prints. Angie and other Griffith girls wear knitwear with interesting patterns.
Overall, I would say Peggy’s outfits are practical and comfortable. A lot of her perceived glamour comes from her makeup, and the fact that her clothes are pretty well-tailored.
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Jack
One thing I find interesting is that repeatedly in AC fics, Jack is supposed to be the fashionista—he is supposed to be the one who is fussy with his appearance. But upon closer inspection, that does not appear to be the case.
Like Pegg, Jack’s outfits are plainer and more practical and comfortable than what meets the eye. His outfits seem stylised to the modern eye, with suspenders and patterned ties. But moving past the modern perspective, all he seems to wear around the office are loose, comfortable shirts and slacks. And while suspenders seem like a ✨fancy✨ choice to the modern audience, they are very everyday items in the ‘40s. They are arguably more practical than belts—in my experiments, I find that with suspenders, you trousers aren’t going anywhere, but they would still shift with belts. In short, his outfits are very practical and comfortable.
I would say a lot of his perceived style comes from the fact that he has several well-tailored suits. Another meta once discussed how owning several suits—and well-tailored ones, at that—in the ‘40s speaks to a certain level of wealth and resources. But again, I don’t know how much of that really reflects personal style. Like Peggy, he basically is hiding behind good tailors. On his own, he seems like someone who still values comfort and practicality over style.
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Daniel
It’s easy to dismiss Daniel as the ‘unfashionable’ one. His outfits in S1 and AOS S7 seem very boring and conservative, being far more formal than what his colleagues wear and composing of ‘dull’ colours like beige, brown, and black. As for S2, it seems easy to dismiss that as phase. Those loud Hawaiian shirts have been affectionately nicknamed ‘Hawaiian shirts of heartbreak’, and it’s easy to write off that part of his life as a simple experiment. But is that really the case?
The AC costume designer said that, and I paraphrase, the sweater vests in S1 act as a style layer, to have something that adds style and design after the jacket is removed indoors. And that’s what sets Daniel apart from everyone else—he layers. He has a collection of sweater vests in different styles—plain, colour block, argyle, to name a few. And while the fact that he layers can be read as a metaphor of how he hides his heart, one can hardly accuse him of being unfashionable.
His outfits in S2, again, speak to a level of style and willingness to experiment. For someone who seems to dress rather conservatively in New York, he has no qualms stepping way out of his comfort zone, experimenting with loud patterns and a decidedly West Coast style that the AC costume designer calls ‘sultry’. I think this willingness to experiment with fashion and try new styles is not something we can expect from Jack or Peggy.
And then there’s his outfit when he is first introduced in AOS S7, the dark woollen suit combo. For the sake of this discussion, I will engage that outfit in good faith, rather than writing some of the idiosyncrasies off as oversight by the costume department. If I have to sum up his outfits from 7x03-7x05, I will say this: style over practicality. First off, he is wearing many very warm layers for the height of summer in a desert. He is wearing a coat, a woollen suit, and a sweater vest on top of a shirt and whatever undergarments he may have got. Besides, he is wearing suspenders under the vest. If he is intending that to be a style layer that he doesn’t necessarily take off, like in S1, that would make for some inconvenience.
So overall, I would say that while Daniel’s outfits are also comfortable and warm, he is definitely the one who is more adventurous with fashion, and values style a little more than the other two.
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amarriageoftrueminds · 8 months
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something i’ve been thinking of lately is how we always associate peggy & her actress with white feminism, but when you actually think about it it’s not even white feminism. white feminism isn’t even the bare minimum and yet it still fails the quota to be considered white feminism. it’s just me feminism. she doesn’t even support white women as a collective lol.
like there’s an interview of the actress where she talks about the 2nd season of ac & her comments about the female antagonists made me violently cringe. she was like (paraphrasing), “oh yeah they’re ambitious women like peggy but peggy is a good person and they are just power-hungry narcissists”. i watched both seasons and i can tell you if her only takeaway from whitney and dotty is that they’re narcissists, she’s either not very intelligent or too self-absorbed to really think about the characters not played by her. like what’s narcissistic about being brainwashed in a spy program which you were forced into as probably a baby, or about wanting to be respected for the human genius you are?
the female sidekicks are ridiculous too. again, all good-looking able wasp women but they both have 5 minutes of screentime each + always playing the silly awkward best friend trope. & the woman playing peggy never ackowledges them or their actresses, unless of course it is to conveniently say that s3 would’ve included a peggy x angie relationship after the show was canceled, despite the fact that when asked about it months ago she’d said “we can’t do everything”
like she’s not even nice to able-bodied able-minded upper class wasp women; how do we expect her to support the interests of women who are actually marginalized??
Excellent points, 'nonny.
Funny, isn't it, that there isn't really an extant term that sufficiently describes just how egocentric she is?
(What's even whiter than white feminism? Albino feminism? Leucistic feminism?!)
And- christ, what an absolute staggering failure of self-awareness, for Atwell to call other peoples' characters narcissistic! 🤯
It's as if (she? Peggy?) lacks the capacity to see anyone beyond herself as... a real, entire person. She and the writers seem to think that merely not criticising other women is the same thing as actually supporting them.
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Funny how the villains of AC have somehow achieved both competence and rank, despite this insurmountable misogyny that Peggy keeps telling us is the reason she hasn't amounted to anything at the nepo-job she's flaking out on.
Interesting (but not at all surprising) that the villains are also the only other WASP women / of her SEC in Peggy's show.
Connect the damn dots, writers! Your Lil Miaow Miaow is an entitled villainess!
Because if a working class woman looked as good and was as important as Peggy and was competent as well...
Well, what would there be left for Peggy to be? How would she distinguish herself, at all? She would cease to be Special in any way.
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My mind always goes back to Pepper Potts.
Hyper-competent, classy, beautifully-dressed red-headed woman?
Who can afford to have a whole other hyper-competent, classy, beautifully-dressed, red-headed woman in the same movie as her, and even flirting with the same man, because Gwyneth Paltrow is not so easily threatened. 💅
Imagine if they couldn't have Thor in the same movie as Steve because being handsome and blonde and muscley and good is his thing. Or were only allowed to have handsome actors if they were playing villains, so as not to undermine Steve's heroic Specialness. Would be pretty pathetic, wouldn't it? 😬
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In AC -- perhaps intending to retcon CATFA Peggy's indifference to her fellow women and failure to pass the Bechdel Test -- they try to set up token 'Peggy Supports the Women!!' moments.
But her other actions belie that.
Example: stabbing a guy with a fork for pinching Angie.
But it just begs the questions:
Why does this protectiveness only start after Angie has ass-kissed Peggy?
Why does that random fat guy get stabbed for annoying women, but sugar daddy Howard Stark merely gets a telling off?
(J/K! We know why -- she'll need his penthouse!)
And why are we supposed to see Peggy as protective of women, when it's Peggy herself who's the idiot putting their lives in danger in the first place?
(And for no better reason than because she wants someone to pay attention to her, or because she wants to show off and overestimates how clever she is, in a way that disastrously backfires -- not on her but on those lower down the foodchain, of course.)
She gets Eileen fridged murdered because she wore a blonde wig despite knowing she had a blonde civilian room-mate at home.
Pretty stupid, no?
And what's worse, then she goes out and immediately befriends yet another blonde civilian woman!
Why does she persist in putting innocent women in danger?
By her own admission, there's an entire floor full of female agents whom she could've easily struck up a friendship with at any time. Why not one of them?
(Answer: because having other female agents around reminds us Peggy isn't special... unless they're an unthreatening fat girl there for comic-relief, of course!)
Is Peggy that desperate to only be around those she can condescend to? Waitresses and housekeepers? She doesn't want equals, she wants servants? (So the writers can play with their Downton Abbey fetish?)
Then there's the way that, every time Actual Feminist Daniel Sousa tries to say something feminist in the office, Peggy shuts him down and treats the very attempt as if it's a personal insult.
These writers are so ignorant of what feminism is and how it actually works that they think a thing can only be feminist if a Woman does it.
The hypocrisy of Peggy stopping Daniel speaking up for women's rights generally because -- as you said -- she knows her value and only this one particular white woman matters.
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(And then Atwell, in classic clueless tin-eared style, quotes that line out of context on her IG for her Pride Month. 🤦‍♀️ Is her message meant to be: 'hey folks, if you hear someone speaking up for gay rights, do what Peggy did and tell them not to! Let the oppressors carry on as they are, because... hey, as long as this one white person loves themselves?? no one else's opinion matters...' 😌
#Girlboss #Super-humble-about-it)
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In s2, they tried to walk back that silly line (which... y'know... Peggy casually destroying any chance of career advancement those women on the other floors could've had? For a pithy soundbite? Great job!)
By having Peggy mansplain to Daniel, Rose's employer, why he should employ... Rose... his employee... 😕❓❓❓
When Rose is only there because Daniel believed in her enough to take her with him and give her a job.
(Unlike Peggy, who just took her servant and her sugar daddy. Oh and her giant wardrobe.)
And Peggy doubts Rose herself. But then -- hypocritically -- pretends to Daniel's face that she didn't. And she has the audacity to scornfully compare him to Jack Thompson, for seeing Rose that way.
(That's you, Peggy! You just described yourself!)
There's also the... very weird vibe about Peggy, when she goes to visit Violet, the new fiancee of Daniel.
Daniel, who... wasn't even dating Peggy, but nevertheless moved to the entire other side of the country to get away from her.
(Hmm... is it just me or is there a definite pattern of ESCAPE in the men Peggy battens onto? 🤔 It's giving You / Crazy Ex Girlfriend).
Anyway, Peggy put on this super weird chummy 'I'm SO super nice and Totally NOT bothered about him moving on so quick!!!' persona with Violet, which she never had with anyone else at any other time. Kind of creepy? Like an aristo trying to pass for a peasant, or something. And her idea of being Hip and Cool and Relatable to the working class was to... share a story of her triumphs at English public school? 😬 Oyvey. Read the room, Camilla.
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subjet16 · 11 months
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hard at work organizing this beast of a post (essay?)
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alethiometry · 2 years
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a 15-year-old poorly-written video game franchise with minimal continuity and contradictory lore is something that can be so personal,,
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ssr-archives · 8 months
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American Duchess, a historical shoe reproduction company, just published an article about 1940s officewear. In it, they discuss at length what women wore to work in the decade. They also included several photos of phone operators at the time. If you’re looking for resources on how Peggy, Rose, and any other ladies might have dressed, this is a good place to start!
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New York Public Library. Model No. 202. Young men’s three-button notch lapel sack. 1940 – 1941. I am highlighting this picture because the woman on the left is basically wearing what Peggy’s wearing in S1E1.
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Shift change at telephone switchboard, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1946.
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eveningstar477 · 2 years
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It’s quite late in my time zone, and it’s probably past for many of you, but today is June 6th, the anniversary of D-Day, and if I had the energy I’d write a meta on how (if we go off the AoS line about being a paratrooper and also knowing he was at Bastogne) Daniel Sousa was most likely a part of the 101st airborne that landed in Normandy on June 5th as a part of the D-Day invasion. (Alas, I do not have the brain energy cause I just started a new internship, which is going fabulously but is also completely exhausting and all-consuming at the moment. so, another time.)
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prezaki · 9 months
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One core trait of Phoenix Wright as a character that I rarely see discussed is how utterly evasive he is about his private affairs. It sticks out the most in AA4 when we see Phoenix from the outside, but "Phoenix won't tell anyone anything important unless he absolutely has to (and even then, he probably won't)" is by no means a new development for him.
From AA1 onwards, we see Phoenix dodge people's questions about his personal life time and time again. In part, this is by narrative necessity - Phoenix knows more than the player is meant to know in order to achieve the optimal tension curve. But AA takes his narrative shortcut and turns it into a real character beat.
Phoenix Wright is the most cagey fucker on the planet.
At the end of 1-1 Mia asks him how he came to befriend Larry and Phoenix dodges the question with a vague promise to tell her later - this also means that in all of his time working with Mia, he's never actually disclosed his full motivation for becoming a lawyer to her.
In 1-2, Maya asks him how he knows Edgeworth and he dodges, because of course he does. The same song and dance repeats at the end of 1-3. And despite Maya's repeated prodding by 1-4, Phoenix still has not told her a thing about his past. That's from October until December that Maya is left going ??? and her questions go nowhere.
Then, between AA1 and AA2, Edgeworth is presumed dead by suicide. Does Phoenix tell Maya about this? Absolutely not. He does not tell her in letters nor is he clear about it when they see each other again in person, months later.
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What Maya gets once it's inevitable to talk is a vague 'he's gone' and no elaboration other than the request to not speak about him again.
This is Phoenix's default coping mechanism.
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In AA3, there are numerous instances where he mentions forgetting Dahlia, not speaking her name again, etc. Edgeworth is 100% getting the 'person who hurt me too deeply to think about' treatment here.
But to not even tell Maya a vague overview on the matter, when Maya knew him too? Rough. And it just keeps going.
It's six months between telling Maya that Edgeworth is 'gone' in 2-2 and her finding out that 'gone' seemingly means' dead' in 2-3.
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Maya complains about it, too. This isn't a matter of 'she never asked again', it's a matter of 'Phoenix is dodging all questions'. Gumshoe has to intervene in order for Maya to finally find out.
And finally in 3-5, does he tell anybody why he's going to Hazakura temple and why he seems interested in Iris? Absolutely not!
At this point we get Edgeworth openly acknowledging that Phoenix keeps his emotional cards extremely closely to the chest. When he states that he wants confirmation on whether or not he has met Iris before, this exchange happens:
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Even as Edgeworth directly calls him out on being evasive and never actually speaking to people, all Phoenix can do is acknowledge that this is how he is by apologizing - but he won't change his ways.
AA4 Phoenix is really just a natural evolution of Trilogy Phoenix - Trilogy Phoenix is already evasive, already hates telling people about his struggles or accepting help... It's really no wonder that he'd isolate himself instead of reaching out once he gets disbarred.
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[ID: Two panels from the BSD manga. The first shows Fyodor, clear eyed with an open expression, asking "What year is it?". The second shows Dazai looking down at "Fyodor's" corpse, saying "Then who the hell is this?" End ID.]
You guys. You GUYS. I feel so vindicated - it was significant!
And also I'm bringing this potential reference back because I forgot about it until right now.
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[ID: Part of a white book cover. The author is Dostoevsky. The title is The Double. End ID.]
"Constantly rebuffed from the social circles he aspires to frequent, the timid clerk Golyadkin is confronted by the sudden appearance of his double, a more brazen, confident and socially successful version of himself, who abuses and victimizes the original. As he is increasingly persecuted, Golyadkin finds his social, romantic and professional life unravelling, in a spiral that leads to a catastrophic denouement."
"One critic wrote that The Double's main idea is that "the human will in its search for total freedom of expression becomes a self-destructive impulse"."
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[ID: A screenshot of a paragraph from The Double's wikipedia page. The sections of note are highlighted: "The Double is the most Gogolesque of Dostoevsky's works", "a parody of "The Overcoat"", "Dostoevsky alters and wholly repeats Gogol's phrases". End ID.]
...Nikolai, I'm so sorry buddy, but I think you're screwed.
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tremorsmackenzie · 9 months
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btw, just another thing i noticed and im probably late to the party on this: the symbol for the council of nine in season 2 of agent carter, you know the one on the pins and in the arena club, looks exactly like the evolution of the hydra sigil fitz presents to the team when they figure out who and what hive is. the upside down rams head. the council of nine are hydra.
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fuckyeahgoodomens · 3 months
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What are Aziraphale and Crowley looking for in each other? (x)
Michael: On the surface, the things that annoy them the most about each other are actually what they are most compelled by.
David: Crave, yes, yes.
Michael: And so they're sort of bound together, aren't they? In all kinds of ways. I think Aziraphale is both infuriated and maddened and very stressed out by Crowley's constant questioning of things. Things that Aziraphale thinks are just... those are the rules. Crowley being a sort of rule breaker and a rule bender, he finds incredibly stressful. And yet I think that's sort of what he craves.
David: Drawn to.
Michael: He's drawn to that.
David: Irrepressibly.
Michael: Yes.
David: Yes. And I think probably Aziraphale's very consistency and very even-temperedness is something that Crowley kind of craves as well. There's a sort of security in that which he doesn't really get anywhere else.
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sparrow-in-boots · 1 year
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.portrait studies, Clay Kaczmarek
today’s lessons are:
don’t skim on the eyebags
you’ll think the eyelids are thin enough. they never are
the line between hooded eyes and crow’s feet is hell
if i see another button or straight nosed Clay, I Will Cry and that’s a threat
stealing his frown lines is a crime
so is his cleft chin
you can never give him too much teeth
the hair has been resolved, the evil is defeated
he does have stubble i promise, he’s just blonde
he also has eyebrows. where are they? no one knows
his upper lip is a trap, don’t fall for it
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redvanillabee · 1 month
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Feeling like I've fallen into the deep end realising that I can say 'I have sewn upwards of 20 buttons in the name of fandom'.
Trying to make old timey suspenders work in 2024 is so much work.
Which leads to an interesting conversation I once had with @historymaiden. Apparently they stopped selling men's trousers with suspender buttons pre-sewn in around WWII due to rationing. In other words, for the entire duration of Agent Carter, any male character you see wearing suspenders are either (a) wearing a pre-war garment, (b) had someone else sew it for them, either by a mother, or a girlfriend/wife, or they paid someone to do it, or (c) they have a little cookie tin sewing kit at home.
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god your pggy rants give me LIFE and now you've got me in a mood to rant too soo
realistically speaking though, *if* (and that's a huuuuge *if*) steve and pggy really were a couple, they wouldn't lasteven 3 months because individually they're both just so drastically different it's almost laughable.
it baffles me that they made pggy claim steve was the love of her life that she tragically lost in the season 1 finale of AC series. babes you knew him for less than 6 months and never had 1 proper conversation EVER with him. (the cab ride convo obviously doesn't count cus that was as you described prefectly— a mother accompanying a son to a doctor’s appointment) because obviously she thought she didn't have to cus she was the self appointed “right partner” for steve and god forbid steve go against that.
there’s also one scene from Agents of SHIELD in which there's a banner I think honoring Bucky and obviously all the pggy fans think of it as a hint towards bucky-pggy friendship, that she became director and decided to honour Bucky as the first of SHIELD who died saving lives or wtv and that just makes my *deeeeeep sigh* blood boil. (putting it lightly) LIKE NO NO NO she wasn't bucky's "friend" hell she wasn't even on a first name basis with the guy. and no that definitely is not honoring bucky.. what it is.. is that it's covering up the that fact that she fucking sold bucky to be used as a guinea pig for the experiments of a NAZI scientist, the right hand man of Red Skull, who she willingly hired into her organization. to this day i'm furious that we didn't get any scenes in civil war in which steve confronts her about SHIELDdra. the man said it himself ‘‘SHEILD, Hydra.. it all goes.’’ and she was the fucking director of SHIELD ffs.
honestly no matter how much carter content marvel throws at me, i will neverrrrrrr be able to like her. not even slightly. it doesn't even make me dislike HA less ngl. girl they've now killed off your character not once but TWICE now, one even brutally if i say so myself and u still would agree to make more content? how many more time should pgyy carter be killed of for HA to actually stop signing more contracts? smh
ok i think im done😭 sorry for taking up ur time
I HOPE YOURE HAVING A GOOD DAY/NIGHT ❤️
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LOL glad to hear it, and thank you, all this ranting is very refreshing. 😅
She really does come off as like an obsessive fangirl with a crush on a famous man (complete with shrine) who got close enough to his inner circle IRL to convince his friends that they were actually together.
(...just realised: I’m talking about the character but you could easily apply this to HA, too. 😅 She said the fans ‘deserve’ to see more of her. The ego is breath taking. The casting is perfect. The crops are rotting in the field.)  
The reason PC’s scenes come in Act 1 of CATWS (as opposed to Act 2 or 3) is specifically so that we cannot see her being forced to atone or take responsibility for her actions (her dementia is back up just in case). 
They can just yell at a black man instead.
They thought we'd just forget.
And not to set you off again, but on the subject of what an immediate failure her and Steve’s 'marriage' would be, HA said about Steve kissing Sharon:
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So according to this delightful individual the yelling and abuse from CATFA would apparently carry right over into IPV / domestic abuse.
...Lol?
(I was saying on twitter that the AC Howlie scenes remind me of the BBC Sherlock fandom, where Mary Watson was disliked until she became a hallucination in John Watson's head. And someone asked, 'how is it that she's suddenly likeable now??' and the response was: '...It's because she's John.' 😬 And @cosmicmechanism pointed out that this might explain why people liked PC in AC. It's because she's not Pggy. She's Bucky. In the Howlies ep, “they treated her like she was Bucky and ... she treated them like children.")
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