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Annabeth Stans Do Not Interact - This post is not for you. Keep Scrolling.
Annabeth is so aggressive to literally anyone that doesn't fit in her perfect worldview/plan.
Poseidon? He's Athena's rival so ofc he's going to be dirty and rotten, and that does for his son as well. Annabeth spends a good portion of the first book with a made up grudge on Percy because of his father - and she lets him know it explicitly, many times. Like Percy had any choice or action in the matter.
Tyson? Well he's the same species as someone else that traumatized her so despite the fact that he saved her friend's life and her life she's going to bully and ostracize him to the point that he does to sleep crying. Reminder: he's literally 7-8 years old.
Rachel? She dare ask Percy to give her an explanation on why he stabbed her with a magic sword, and have a skill that Annabeth doesn't have that's needed on her quest? Endless aggression.
Percy? He got kidnapped by a goddess that Annabeth hates so in punishment she judo-flips him, threatens him and starts saying red flag things like "if you dare leave me again." Nevermind the fact that Percy was literally blameless; he was kidnapped against his will. He has more of a right to be upset about it than she does.
Hazel? She stands a little too close to Percy and if not for her age (too young to date Percy) Annabeth would've gone off on her too, the same way she did with Rachel. As if Annabeth owns Percy, and has a right to manage and control his social life. Percy is allowed to have female friends his age.
Like I just can't with this girl. Feeling jealous and insecure is fine. But taking it out on others and then refusing to apologize for the bitchy-ness? I can't stand it. And don't come at me saying she's traumatized or those characters did her wrong - this is not a post open to debate. It's a rant. I won't entertain you; you'll be blocked immediately.
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Concerning Snippets from PJO Chalice of the Gods
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Annabeth didn't give Percy any warning. Didn't talk to him. Didn't tell him what she was thinking and just pushed him off the edge, not even knowing if this water was breathable to Percy, AND since he wasn't even prepared he could have easy lost his hold on this important staff.
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Now he's fighting this unknown god, Elisson, who guess what wants to cause Percy pain.
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Yeah, Annabeth, what did you think was going to happen? Oh, wise one *sarcastic*. At least Percy thinks of more than himself and wants to keep his partner safe.
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Here Percy's been through the ringer, forced into this situation BY ANNABETH, and Annabeth, who is safe up on the cliff, is just tapping her wrist like it's a watch because she's impatient for her boyfriend to hurry up. Like girl, this god could kill Percy and has already hurt him, and this is how you react.
Look, I don't care if anyone likes Annabeth or not, but this kind of behavior, not to mention so many more things, is just so concerning to me. Percabeth is not a healthy relationship, and it never has been.
It's just so concerning that this is what been taught to as early as elementary school kids about what is a "healthy" relationship. Not to mention how many times Annabeth has elbowed Percy, kicked his shins, and calls him stupid. Let's not forget the judoflip in HOO either, where Annabeth puts her knee on Percy's chest and presses her forearm against his throat and tells him not to leave her, LIKE HE CHOSE TO BE KIDNAPPED. Instead of ya know, hugging him and telling him she loves him.
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duaghterofstories · 1 year
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Can you imagine thinking that someone not writing something someway is valid for it not being true? Like, bestie is basically saying, if it looks abusive, acts abusive, and has been called abuse by people who have been abused, it still isn’t abusive because an old white man with bad ideas of feminist ideals said it wasn’t.
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darkcrowprincess · 28 days
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me when I think about percabeth:
percy is literally dating the equivalent of a karen. No wonder hes so miserable. Honestly this is a perfect way for the gods to control him. Make Aphrodite force his true love to be the most abusive, but loyal person to the gods. Easy way to have completely control of one of the few demigods you can't control.
(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)
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perachelsource · 2 years
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I don’t like how focused the Perachel community have been on Annabeth hate
It’s a feeling I’ve had for a while now, and I think I’ve been holding back on talking about it out of fear that the very few people in this community will turn on me, but with the recent casting of Leah Jeffries as Annabeth I feel like I need to speak out. 
I have criticised the writing of Annabeth’s character and her relationship with Percy many times, and while I stand by everything I’ve said about them, I think a lot of people are taking it to an unnecessary extreme (quick disclaimer: this is absolutely not a call out post for any specific perachel shipper, and I really don’t mean to start a fight or something I’m just putting my thoughts out there and am very open to civilised discussions on the matter). I’ve summarised all of my critiques of Annabeth and Percabeth here, and as I made it clear in that post, and what I want to make clear here, is that I don’t hate Annabeth and I don’t hate Percabeth shippers. I actually really like their friendship, and what most of us tend to not take into consideration, is that it’s pretty clear that there’s no malicious intent behind Annabeth’s more questionable actions. She’s not by any means an Evil Abuser™, she’s just a kid that occasionally lashes out on others due to her own trauma. 
I think it’s really easy to look at the handful of hateful and malicious Percabeth shippers and resent all of them for it, but it’s important to remember that they are in the minority. It’s just a very loud and big minority because Percabeth is such a big ship. It’s also easy to look at all of Annabeth’s bad traits and actions and forget about all of the good ones. It’s easy to focus on all of the times she’s mistreated Percy and never on the ones where she was kind to him. 
As always when I talk about shipping culture, I wanna link this post, because it just perfectly explains my thoughts on the matter. 
It would be incredibly hypocritical of me to say that Percabeth is a “bad” ship when I myself have said that I like Delena, which is just like and objectively more “problematic” one. I mean, Annabeth never murdered Percy’s brother. We don’t know other people’s interpretations, angles or perspectives on their favourite ship or character, we have no idea what they could mean to them, so calling them a “bad” person or their OTP a “bad” ship just doesn’t work. 
I’ve said before that I wanna take the Disney Plus series as an opportunity to try and grow the Perachel fandom, and if we want to do that we will have to make the Perachel community a safe and welcoming space, and wether you like it or not, one of the key ways to do that is to welcome multi-shippers. Most of the newbies are gonna ship Percabeth anyway, since they will have had 2-3 seasons of development before Rachel even becomes a character. We can’t just spend all our time getting mad at people shipping something we don’t, you know, the exact thing toxic Percabeth shippers we all hate are doing. I really think that if we continue down this road that we will not be any better than the worst of the Percabeth stans. 
I wanted to bring this up because of the casting of Leah Jeffries, because I think it’s a fantastic thing. The Disney Plus series will now have a black leading lady who’s portrayed as strong, capable and vulnerable person, who’s the main love interest of a white guy. That’s something that should be celebrated! What I also want people to think about is that this will be an adaption. The show is not gonna be exactly like the books, they will change things, which is a prime opportunity to fix the more problematic aspects of Annabeth’s character. Now, I’m personally not too optimistic about that, since everything points to the fact that Rick Riordan has not learned his lesson, but he’s not the only person working on this. The most important addition, I think, is Leah Jeffries. We have no idea how she will interpret her character, or how that interpretation might change over the years, so I’m keeping an open mind. 
Ultimately, I’m not gonna stop criticising Annabeth completely, but I have officially changed my tags on here from #anti annabeth and #anti percabeth to #annabeth crit and #percabeth crit, because I am not against these things, I am merely critical of them. 
I created this blog as a way to collect all of the limited Perachel content somewhere, and give shippers a safe space and community; I now want to make that community safe for everyone. My dream of expanding the Perachel fandom through the tv series is still very real, and I want everything on here to be working towards that, so I have made the executive decision to keep ship wars completely away from this blog. I would love it if you all helped. 
Sincerely, Mal. 
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thaliasthunder · 11 months
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the entire camp half blood is literally just fucking lucky nico has a problem with sacrificing himself for the people he loves because if he was actually vengeful and grunge holder as rr claimed him to be, they all would not have lasted a fucking day in the battle of manhattan after he had decided to join luke
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demigods-posts · 10 months
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let me be delusional. let me believe that annabeth heeded percy's advice at the end of the summer and went to virginia, only to realize that in the five years she's been away, her father hasn't changed. let me believe that annabeth ran away from home once again, intending to live at chb until she's old enough to live on her own. let me believe that during the boat ride she and percy go on later that year in the SOM, annabeth admits that she's been staying at camp since a few weeks after the summer ended. let me believe that after the quest, percy offers annabeth his living room couch in case she ever gets tired of being at camp all the time. let me believe that annabeth takes him up on the offer one night and sally does her best to make her feel welcome. let me believe that annabeth starts visiting the jackson residence more often, so often that she has extra pairs of clothes and a toothbrush over there. let me believe that when annabeth falls off the cliff and gets held hostage in TTC, all she wants to do is go home, and for the first time, 'home' stops meaning the sixth cabin in a bordered-off summer camp, or a thirty-minute nap in an abandoned alleyway - it starts to mean a certain apartment in manhattan with blue chocolate chip cookies and the occasional movie nights on the living room couch. let me believe that after TTC, sally sits annabeth down at the kitchen table and asks if she feels comfortable with her filing for guardianship. let me believe that a few weeks later, annabeth is sitting in a court room, squeezing percy's hand as they watch sally fight for custody over her. let me believe that as soon as the judge grants sally guardianship, annabeth cries into percy's shoulder because after years of running, she's finally found a family that chooses her.
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willthespy · 4 days
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annabeth being piper’s sapphic awakening?? anyone???
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lesbian visibility week is almost over so i had to post this draft…rip piper mclean you would’ve loved chappell roan and kissing girls
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devils-little-sista · 4 months
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Nico and Percy have so much in common with how they deal and cope with everything. I feel like if they could ever just sit down and talk about everything they would see that they understand each other better than anybody else in the universe understands them.
Because Will doesn’t understand Nico at all and doesn’t even try to, all Will does is try to gaslight Nico to think that the ostracizing he went through didn’t happen, and doesn’t understand when Nico acts accordingly with his ptsd, and doesn’t understand that Nico does not need to he “fixed” and that Nico was never “broken” — I could go on and on so I’ll leave it at that
Sally and Annabeth and maybe Paul kinda understand the surface of what Percy’s got going on but they know they’re missing something they know Percy’s not telling them everything because Percy doesn’t want to scare them, doesn’t want them to be worried for him, doesn’t want them to be afraid of him (and they already kinda are afraid of him especially Annabeth).
And I feel like Percy would truly understand most of what Nicos been through because he also went through something similar at some point in his life and Percy has never been afraid of Nico like so many people are and Percy tried to include him in things especially when they were younger. Percy sees that Nico is not “broken” he does not need to be “fixed” or “healed”. He just needs understanding and time to get used to something new.
And Nico wouldn’t be afraid of Percy either and Percy could finally let down his guard and tell Nico everything without worrying about Nico being afraid of him or for him. Wouldn’t have to worry about Nico thinking he’s crazy and too dark and too angry. Because Nico understands that Percy’s crazy dark and angry feelings are very much justified and valid and has alot of the same feelings and they have similar ways of coping.
It’s crazy how much they mirror each other. I want them to be friends so bad but I know they wouldn’t really spend time with each other unless they were forced to. I wish Chiron or Sally or Annabeth would lock them in one of their cabins for a few days so they can actually talk and make a bond.
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Annabeth and Percy/Annabeth Content (Critical)
DO NOT INTERACT if you like Annabeth, or if you like Percy/Annabeth.
If some of the things Annabeth says or does to Percy makes you uncomfortable, or if you're just questioning some of it (unsure about following mainstream Percabeth shipping) then this is for you.
This is part thirteen of my masterpost (that had too many links so I had to break it up lol).
Anyways, this section is all criticisms about the Percy/Annabeth ship, and some of Annabeth's behavior in the book series. Beware; this is not Annabeth friendly. I'm constantly editing and adding new links and content so please check out the original post on my blog for the updated version.
Enjoy!
Percy/Annabeth in PJO:
Double standards for Percy/Annabeth with paying respect to the other's immortal parent
Percabeth was only possible because Rachel and Luke took themselves out of the competition
Many of Percabeth’s scenes feel so much like foreshadowing for a realization from Percy that he’s in an abusive relationship (someone else's post but I agree 100%)
Percy is Annabeth’s rebound because her first love turned into an evil overlord and died.
Every time Annabeth is mean to Percy in PJO + Staff of Hermes (not mine, idk if I agree with all of these but it's an interesting list).
Annabeth is Percy's rebound from Rachel; and Percy is Annabeth's rebound from Luke.
Percy/Annabeth in HoO+:
Trust and Vulnerability in Percy/Annabeth's Relationship + Someone else's thoughts why Percy rarely opens up
Tartarus made Percy and Annabeth into the worst version of themselves
The judo flip + Percy's mortal spot: A Murder Attempt?!
A poll I conducted to see what Percabeth fans thought of the flip, and how/if that affected their shipping of Percabeth
Commentary on the Judo Flip by Piper Mcclean
Commentary on how well Percy and Annabeth know each other's backstories by Piper Mcclean
Comparison: Annabeth seeing Percy at his most powerful vs. Nico seeing Percy at his most powerful.
Percy/Annabeth fans claim everything Percy does is about Annabeth - Disproved
A poll I conducted to see what Percabeth fans thought of the "some things [poison] aren't meant to be controlled" scene
Discussions on Percy being scared of Annabeth, fans romantizing that and the effects of Rick's shitty, shitty writing
Commentary: Percy commenting on Annabeth's victim blaming tendencies
General: Percy deserves better (not mine but I agree)
Moment in the KC crossover where Percy admits he fears Annabeth
Percy's unaddressed trauma + Annabeth's tendency to get mad at/make fun of/insult Percy (not mine but I agree)
The judo-flip was done out of anger and as a (unrightful) punishment (not mine but I agree)
Percabeth stans are Annabeth stans and anti-Percabeth ppl are Percy stans: a theory
Percy/Annabeth in CoTG:
An Analysis of Percy/Annabeth's life together as adults
Criticism of Percy and Annabeth's relationship "Perc@beth is the gold standard and no-one is doing it like them."
Top tier analysis of what Percy/Annabeth's relationship outside of trauma bonding and wartime (and a few other topics like emotional vulnerability and jealously/insecurities). (not mine but I agree with it)
Annabeth (Critical) Content:
Fans give Annabeth credit for things she didn't do
Is Annabeth as badass, formidable in battle strategy and leadership as her fans claims she is? Evidence from the books.
Annabeth views Percy as a replacement for Luke (not mine, but I agree)
Annabeth stalks Percy with her invisibility cap while he's changing his clothes (pre-relationship).
Poll: What type of Annabeth Chase fan are you?
Anon ask: Annabeth's pattern of turning Percy's female friends against him (in the sense that they're still friends but they insult him jokingly to appease Annabeth)
Annabeth called Percy the coward when in reality she was the coward for never communicating (not mine but I agree).
Annabeth stans like to distract everyone from Annabeth's embarrassing crush on Luke & her Luke apologism by pointing at Luke and unjustly saying pedo.
A short spiel about general redemption arcs that I think would apply to Annabeth - no actual analysis relating it to PJO tho.
Annabeth stans really be out there saying that she has the most tragic backstory in PJO like no other character exists
Annabeth is incredibly aggressive to anyone who challenges her or doesn't fit into her perfect worldview/plan.
Annabeth stans may like her because they see themselves in her? (the aggression, entitlement, jealously etc.)
Poll: Does Annabeth acknowledge that Percy is smart?
Annabeth's worst crime is how she treated Tyson
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wisebeth · 1 year
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i knew percy jackson was superior to harry potter when both series introduced a love triangle in the last second book to cause angst between the main pairing and how both authors handled it so differently.
we had jkr, who turned lavender into a joke and mocked her interests and whole character, looked down upon her for being a teenager with a crush just to uplift hermione as the better love interest for ron and handled the whole triangle with very obvious misogynistic undertones to show why hermione is superior to the other woman™.
and then we had rick, who treated rachel with respect and gave her a likable personality and goals and interests of her own, had percy and rachel develop a genuine friendship and even gave rachel some iconic moments to shine on her own, never bashed rachel to uplift annabeth and most importantly concluded the love triangle with annabeth and rachel becoming friends and letting go of their past beef.
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ofswordsandpens · 8 months
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the chalice of the gods becomes objectively funnier if you head canon that percy and annabeth only stay at New Rome for a single semester before realizing its batshit insane there and running for the hills
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darkcrowprincess · 3 months
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Percy Jackson ships(not canon): I don't know about you but I don't want angsty endings for my ships. There's enough angst in canon. Let my demigods have happy or semi happy endings. It's what they deserve.
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There are many things that frustrate me with the writing of Annabeth in the PJO TV Show, but I think one thing that I haven’t seen people talk much about is the mini-arc of Percy needing to help Annabeth with her sense of fun/humanity.
Just so we’re clear, I absolutely hate this arc.
Prior to the show’s premiere, I believe there was a quote from Rick discussing new-ish things that we’d see in the show, and one of those things was Percy helping Annabeth “tap into her humanity”. I can’t find the exact quote, but it should be on the series update Twitter account if you search it.
When I first read this quote, I wasn’t exactly sure what it meant, but I thought maybe we’d get an expansion of the theme of forgiveness that we got in the original books, or maybe we’d get an arc about Annabeth’s pride and how that gets in the way of her relationships with others. Or maybe they’d try and break down the ways in which Annabeth helps to uphold the gods’ ways of doing things, and align her more with the mortal point of view (which they essentially did, but not the overall point).
What I certainly wasn’t expecting was for them to strip Annabeth of most, if not, all of her smaller/softer traits, and give her this unusually stoic and stiff personality, where she suddenly has no familiarity with casual aspects of the mortal world (movies, Disney world, common idioms), and needs Percy to introduce these concepts to her in an effort to “unlock” her humanity.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Words cannot emphasize enough how much I despise this arc. Not only is it entirely nonsensical for Annabeth not to be familiar with these things (she was with her dad at least until the age of 7 and she goes to a camp full of other children who are regularly in contact with the mortal world; do you seriously expect me to believe that at no point in her 12 years of life, she never saw a single film, heard of Disneyworld, or heard common idioms and slang terms from her camp-mates? Seriously???)
But ALSO!
Book!Annabeth had PLENTY of humanity to go around! Even with her pride and initial coldness towards Percy, she plays hackeysack with him and Grover on the first day of their quest! She has a cute silly crush/admiration/infatuation on Luke. She nerds out big time over the St. Louis Arch! She’s the first to steal clothing from Waterland! She screams and cries when she encounters the mechanical spiders! She has an expression of sadness when she shares her backstory about Thalia and Luke! She gets lost in her little construction game at the Lotus, so much so that Percy has to use her phobia to pull her out of the trance! She grabs Percy’s hand when they first enter the Underworld because she’s scared! She tears up when it’s time to leave Cerberus!
And you stripped her of all these things, because you’re so desperate to overemphasize the Percabeth romance, and you felt that it was absolutely necessary to have Percy educate Annabeth on “unlocking humanity”??? Why!!!!
Not only did Book!Percy help Annabeth discuss things about bad parents and approaching forgiveness, but Book!Percy already had something important to offer Annabeth: loyalty, trustworthiness, and reliability. You didn’t need to take away her already-present traits and wits to convince us that Percy was the type of person she needed in her life, because we can already see what he offers her in the books. So why oh why did you feel the need to give us the silly “tap into your humanity” arc? Why did you turn her personality into something that it wasn’t? Why did you take away her depth just so her character could better serve Percabeth?
I don’t even necessarily agree with the criticism that this version of Annabeth feels like it prioritizes Percabeth more, but I can see why people made that complaint. Y’all took away so much of what made this character endearing, because you felt like it was a much bigger priority to have Percy help her unlock humanity than to let her be human prior to meeting him and outside of him. Not only does her personality get shafted, but her relationships with other people get shafted too! Her interactions with Luke are affection-less, she sent Grover off on his own in the Lotus so she could go off with Percy, and I don’t even think that she and Chiron interacted once this season; I don’t even think she mentioned the part about her calling him to come pick her up after she attempted living at home again!
But don’t worry; we’ll get plenty of scenes doubling down and tripling down on how Percy is the center of her world now! Yay!
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punkeropercyjackson · 2 months
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Someone add an Apollo dodgeball meme
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scarareg · 4 months
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I don't know dude,but the more I read about Percabeth actually being in a relationship,the less I like them together. The fact that Percy constantly seems just at ease and like he can be himself with no worries while being with Rachel and Nico,but when he is with Annabeth he constantly tries to act like "the perfect boyfriend" he thinks he should be + Annabeth so casually saying lines like "I only attack my boyfriend like that" makes me give them a bombastic side eye (criminal offensive) not gonna lie. Think I like them better separately.
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