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captnjacksparrow · 2 years

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Hi!

For all the NS/SN fics thing, I completely agree with you. I think the problem is that some people don’t actually understand how sex works. Your personality doesn’t influence your sexual preferences… Or even your apparence. So claiming thing like "Sasuke/Naruto is clearly a bottom because he is more feminine" or "Naruto/Sasuke is much more possessive than the other, it’s a top behavior" doesn’t make any sens.

Personally, I’d said I prefer NS, simply because I’ve found more of bad written, anti Sasuke SN fanfictions than good written ones. I don’t like the way either either Sasuke or Naruto are portrayed in most of SN fanfictions I’ve read. Sasuke is a just a cold, perverted bastard and Naruto is a crying little cutie pie. It made me uncomfortable, because in some SN fics, I had the feelings that Sasuke was an adult and that Naruto was a child.

But I can say the same with NS characterization. In some fanfictions, Naruto is just a dumb sunshine and Sasuke is just a blushing tsundere. And, even it’s a part of their personality… They’re so much more than that. I still like NS fanfictions more, because the majority of them treat Sasuke like an actual human and not like a monster. And I’ve seen sooooo much SN fonctions bashing Sasuke and praising Naruto. I’ve seen much less NS fanfictions bashing Naruto, on the other hand… I mean, most of the people in the Naruto fandom like Naruto’s character, so…

But of course, I don’t want to generalize anything! It’s just what I’ve observed.

Have a good day 💕

Hmm... Makes Sense and you're totally right.

Again, My whole gripe about that discourse and especially my annoyance towards that one side (you know which one, right??) is that CRINGEWORTHY HYPOCRISY & BASELESS SELF-ENTITLEMENT & TOXIC BULLYING...

You could actually question me like, "Hmmm... You said you don't care about fanfiction portrayals of N and S and yet why you get annoyed over this discourse... You could simply ignore them."

Well, I was doing that for the entire time and if I am being honest I was more oblivious to it and never wanted to involve myself in it. And I would've stayed that way had that not muddy the canon portrayals and write-ups.

Last year around March, I was a total newb to this Fandom. At that time, I was simply following tumblr blogs and there were some posts about fanfictions, which I never quite understood what it meant. I simply scrolled them down and moved on.

Even after I started to write Asks, I was thoroughly oblivious about it. For example, Look at this Asker's ask... [Link].... That post was from September 2021... You could see that I have no idea as to what the Asker was asking about. All I know was they were talking about some random fanfiction portrayal and I responded with Canon basis. The Asker was saying Sasuke is Asexual... I said, Canon and Kishimoto's posters says otherwise.

And a month later in October 2021, I got this another one... [Link]... And my first reaction was like, "...WTF... Noooo". Back then I didn't know which faction of SNS this ask came from. I simply answered it with canon basis. But somehow, that ask negatively stayed in my mind... forever.

And then I came across a string of very irritating posts which portrayed Sasuke as this Vulnerable, Insecure, Aloof, Non Obsessive, Non Possessive, Goal Oriented guy whom Naruto forced him into submission for Sasuke's own good... Naruto was the one who chased Sasuke (romantically and for his sexual desire)... But all of a sudden Naruto rejected Sasuke's non-verbal confession, broke his poor little uwu heart and became a scumbag.

This above portrayal proves Sasuke was forced to fall in Love with Naruto because Naruto chased him....

And when I came across these posts... I kept on reminded of that ask which stayed in my mind negatively..... Then I realized "Wait a minute!!! These portrayals of Sasuke are alllllllll from a certain faction of SNS fandom and it's all horribly wrong.. Why is that???". And when I digged deep, I felt that they are making Sasuke into a version of some vulnerable and difficult woman who needs constant reassurance.

Basically NS bottomline is like a girl (Yeah, Sasuke's shipping self inserts are majorly girls, that's why I used the word Girl) saying, "I have mental issues... I have goals... I need space... Can you tolerate me??? Can you deal with me??? Can you care for me??? Can you devote yourself for me???"

See... It's all about me me me me... Just like how Sakura makes it all about herself in SS. There's literally no care about Naruto and his character.

That's when I understood... "These guys are fucking cringe worthy and annoyingly hypocritic... Is this what this 'Division of Fandom' all about??? These guys hide under the In-Canon BS but clearly carry a stupid agenda and blame the other side for OOC portrayal when in reality they are also doing the same thing."

They accuse the other side for multi-shipping Naruto... Which is fair... Even I am not a fan of it... But they also make Sasuke into a cum-dumpster by shipping him with Kakashi, Itachi, Orochimaru, Jugo and every other guys with stick.

If Hypocrisy and Cringeness is one side... Then Intentionally Bullying, Name calling, Stalking and Openly hating Naruto but still shipping SNS is the another side. Of course, I have 4 different ugly discourse tumblr links that happened at 4 different periods of time to prove it... which I don't want to attach it here. But you are welcome to Direct Message me and I will be glad to send you those links to see it for yourself.

Yes, Sasuke hate is real... But that was actually before 4 or 5 years ago though. Now... Naruto hate is the reality... And I am clearly seeing it from that one side (most of the times).

That's why I am being very vocal about it... My annoyance doesn't stems from the Portrayal of N and S in any of the sides. Truly. My annoyance stems from "How are you any different?? Why are you bullying?? Are you any better? And why do you bring Fan fiction portrayal into Canon?? Why do you hate Naruto and ship him with your self-insert character Sasuke??"

#sns

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hesitationss · 9 months

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i feel like fandom has undeveloped my brain 😭 i never engaged w fandom as a teenager or even much as an adult like only in this iteration of being on tumblr aside from the occasional anti-imperialist naruto long meta. when i was 16-20(?) it was marxism and artist blogging and i even remember going to some counter protests against white supremacists and proud boy type groups because tips were shared on tumblr... but i stopped when white comrades would take photos of me and my uni friend cuz we were visibly poc despite wearing a black t shirt over our faces... and it was really cool to be distinct and transparent about this stuff, but anyway i was literally like 'its totally cool to read these theorists, this is how i become a cool person and now i engage in fandom where ppl fight all the time even if they agree w eachother and people make irl censorship issues abt fanfiction and blame china, russian hackers, or middle easterners/"muslim extremists" for every minutia inconvenience that occur and that level of racism and misinfo/idiocy gets excused all the time for being sheltered whites, from north america/europe, and anxiety/neurodivergency. i'm re-evaluating...

#i love my littel tv shows and manga i really do and i also like my mutuals but maybe i'll delete and remake idk... i'm sad that i don't read #as much text anymore...#i've never been engaged on one of those pointless fights but the fact that they're on my perioheral...

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shannarous · 2 years

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As a SasuSaku fan, I really have my "safe space" for shipping the ship only here on Tumblr, where I found great mutuals and with looking at fanart on twitter and reading fanfiction. I avoid nearly every other social media or internet site, because I know, that the hate for the ship, the shippers and the characters will be there. And it is just, because the hate is so....so disgusting in some ways sadly. Even fans who say, that Sasuke is their favorite character, celebrate him as an abusive husband for Sakura, say that he hates his family and that he just married Sakura to "atone for his sins" and that Sakura is just a c*m d*mpster for him. I know, that all this is just the bitterness of them, but the antis are so vocal even nearly 8 years after the ending that sometimes I really regret reading the Naruto manga.

Sometimes I'm just a little bit glad that Tumblr has died down so much, because of exactly what you said: it's kind of like the last relatively safe space. There are still antis here, of course, but it's easy to avoid them here, which I do love too. The really toxic haters have moved to Twitter, I think, and I find it way harder to avoid them there, so all I do is scroll through my feed that only has posts I really want to see.

But, anon, please don't ever regret reading the manga. I understand why some haters would make you feel this way, but don't ever let them ruin it for you. Enjoy the platforms you've chosen as your safe places, enjoy your ship, enjoy the whole series. That's what it was written for. The haters can hate all they want, it's their loss after all.

#anon ask #sasusaku #naruto #fandom hate

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tobi-smp · 2 years

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I’ve been avoiding addressing this for some time now because I knew if I ever did it would be a deeply emotionally taxing conversation. however I’ve continued to receive increasingly angry anons about it despite never speaking on it, so if it’s going to find me anyways I may as well address it in full on my own terms.

I’m putting this under a cut because it’s going to be discussing intense subject matter, both real and fictional, specifically in addressing the role dark fiction can have in someone’s life and why someone might be drawn to it (someone else might call it a conversation on the “anti” and “anti-anti/proship” argument, though I don’t enjoy using those terms personally). so don’t feel pressured to read or engage with this post going forward.

that said, I encourage looking through this whole thing (assuming you can stomach it) if you’ve ever messaged me about metaru before.

this will not be short, but I ask that anyone who chooses to engage with this after this point read the entire thing. I don’t want to be misunderstood and I’m not looking for any arguments in the first place. this is not me opening myself up to debate. Tw for discussions on csa, abuse, harassment, and of course dark fiction in general.

my first Real interactions with the internet was with naruto forums dot com. up until that point a computer was just the box that I used to play the “my gym partner’s a monkey” flash game in the living room, but I’d learned about forums in school and it was the literal first thing that came up when I’d decided to look up something familiar out of curiosity.

this was formative for me because this was the first time that I learned that you could find pictures of boys kissing online, and naturally I was hooked.

even better, it wasn’t long before I’d realized that all of this fanart was coming from somewhere. which brought me to deviantart and eventually led me to finding fanfiction (whole Stories where boys fell in love with each other, can you even imagine).

I was drawn to a subculture of the fandom that, in hindsight, was kind of silly. it was early enough in akatsuki’s introduction to the story that people treated them not unlike the “avengers all live in the same tower and hang out with each other” trend of the early 2010s. tobi was just tobi, it was simpler times.

I read fanfic of them all being friends, of them forming families, of them living their day to day together, the less grounded in canon the better.

one day I found one au fic in particular. they were all kids who were living together under one roof. foster children trapped in an abusive household that escaped together and had to learn how to grow and move on while staying a family. several of the kids had been sexually abused by their adoptive father, leading to them finally leaving in the first place. this fact wasn’t explicit but it was one of the first times I’d seen something like this in media and Understood what was happening. this was also a formative experience for me.

deviantart and forums and even fanfic dot net to an extent didn’t have the sorting and tagging systems that ao3 does now, you never really knew what you were going to find when you clicked on something. it was by pure chance that I found that fic just like it was pure chance that I’d find anything. I read it and I read it again, but it would be a while before I’d actively seek out content like that.

now why would I do that? what was I so drawn to about this story?

when I was a child I was diagnosed with ptsd, though it’d be later in life when I’d realize that c-ptsd was more accurate. obviously there was no way for me to process this, I wasn’t old enough for the birds and the bees talk (I was barely old enough to understand that I was a little person at all). and my brain agreed with me on that one, to this day my long term memory is fucked (and my rote memorization in general for that matter). I don’t remember kindergarten, I have a few scant flashes from elementary, I start getting more of a grasp of who I was as a person in middle school albeit with practically none of the details for what day to day life was like, and I have a bit of a firmer grasp on high school but no real concept of When specific things happened to me or where. and that’s followed me now into my adult life.

so what you’re left with is a situation where a child grows up with the Marks of something horrific that happened to them, the c-ptsd and the depression and the anxiety, but no real way to understand it at a point where it wouldn’t particularly be an appropriate conversation to have with them.

I was vaguely aware that it was a thing that had happened to me in the way that kids are aware that the economy is a thing that adults care an awful lot about. how do you empathize with yourself when you don’t have any of the details? when you can’t picture what it’d be like to experience these things and the effect it has on a person? when you can’t understand Why you feel the way that you do or even What it is you feel?

what’s more, what do you do when you can’t mourn for yourself? when you can’t be angry at a person that doesn’t have a name or a face? how do you reconcile a loss that isn’t yours but that has a deep impact on you anyways? it was like I was stepping into a life that wasn’t mine but still had to live with the consequences of it.

for a good while there I fully refused to believe that I could have anxiety and depression, which is silly to me now but was a fairly common reaction for children that grow up with trauma and mental illness. it wouldn’t be until high school that I’d start getting a real grasp on mental health and start making strides to understand it. but I still existed in the meantime.

I was drawn to dark fiction for the catharsis. for having the ability to feel the horror and the fear and the anger in a tangible way that was still Safe. and what I treasured the most was recovery fics, stories where the characters got to be okay in the end. I couldn’t remember what I’d felt, what I’d experienced, but this was a full narrative exploring what it was like to experience these things in depth, and for the first time I started to understand. I could empathize with them when I couldn’t empathize with myself, and that meant everything at the time.

I won’t pretend that this fixed my mental health, it didn’t. but this was a foundation to a relatively healthy outlet for difficult emotions that I could not have dealt with on my own. it was also the tentative start to what’d eventually Become my journey with tackling my mental health in a truly substantial way.

this is something that people are usually Vaguely aware of, even in spaces where dark fiction is a zero tolerance policy. what this will often translate to is an asterisk where people are allowed to engage with the Bad Thing if they have a permit to get away with it. but this isn’t viable for a couple reasons.

firstly, and most obviously, that requires people to out themselves about extremely personal and painful experiences, sometimes when they aren’t ready to talk about it at all let alone on a public platform. and if the person asking for proof wants to they can simply choose to ignore or not believe them, which can be a horribly upsetting and even traumatizing experience for someone all on its own. putting already vulnerable people into an even more vulnerable position at the threat of punishment is not, in my opinion, good activism.

and second being that that’s just not how catharsis works.

catharsis isn’t just seeing your own experiences shown back to you, though that can certainly provide some absolutely moving relationships with a work of fiction when it does work out that way. catharsis is experiencing extreme emotions in a controlled and safe environment. when you listen to sad music when you’re upset until you can have a good cry that’s catharsis. when you watch a horror movie to feel the shock and fear, your pulse racing, that’s catharsis. when the greeks first watched oedipus gouge his eyes out with pins upon learning that he’d unknowningly wed and had children with his own mother that was the Invention of the modern definition of catharsis.

people consume dark fiction to experience dark emotions in a relatively low stakes environment. to ask that people prove that they’re Allowed to view one negative experience by proving that they have a direct connection to the experiences being shown is to misunderstand Why people feel the way that they do when they interact with dark fiction.

and moreover, reading about and feeling compassion for experiences that you don’t have can help you understand the people who have experienced those things.

c!tommy and dream’s story is an Incredible work of dark fiction that covers themes of abuse, mental illness, ptsd, and more. and while I feel catharsis from that story because of my own experiences with mental health, my life doesn’t exactly mirror c!tommy’s. nor would I get upset with someone for seeing themselves in c!tommy because of their depression rather than ptsd.

okay, does this mean that I’m an anti-anti or a proshipper or think all dark fiction should be allowed everywhere all the time? no, not really.

firstly, in my opinion those terms are essentially useless on the large scale. shorthand like that is useful in small tight-knit communities where everyone knows exactly what everyone else means when they use that shorthand, but that becomes impossible once it spreads to a certain point.

there are people who don’t know that “anti” is used in fandom spaces to describe someone who unnecessarily bashes something (a person, ship, character, show, etc), and there are people who don’t know that some people’s only experiences with those labels are people who stand against actual pedophiles and groomers. these two people using the same term without elaborating can (and in my experience Will) have the most draining and unproductive argument known to man.

there are perfectly normal people who exist under both labels, who even believe the same things for the same reasons, who’ve been lead to hate each other because they chose the “wrong” labels just because of the communities they happened to grow up in. moreover, the bad actors in those communities are incentivized to encourage this black and white us vs them mentality. both so they can encourage harassment for the sake of it and so they can use the other group as a scapegoat to mask their own behavior.

I understand why people are drawn to one label vs the other based on their own lived experiences. but the healthier relationship with it, I think, is to ditch the terminology altogether and simply call out the behavior that you find harmful in full. when talking about subject matter like this you Need nuance, you Need specifics, you Need a healthy middle ground along with an awareness of the extremes. otherwise it only serves as a tool for confusion and harassment.

secondly: dark fiction, like most things, is not black and white. not all relationships to dark fiction is healthy, not all dark fiction should be platformed, communities for dark fiction can be invaded and co-opted by bad people, and the availability of dark fiction in certain spaces can be a real problem.

like I said, I first stumbled into dark fiction back during the wild west. when warnings weren’t common or comprehensive and sorting was pitiful if it existed at all. I had access to content that I really shouldn’t have at my age.

I was lucky that I mostly kept to myself online until high school and I was lucky that I never really had any major adverse experiences with fiction when I was a kid, but that’s not the experience that everyone has.

ao3 is generally much better in this regard, with its heavy emphasis on tags, trigger warnings, and proper sorting. but even then there are things that show up where it shouldn’t through user error, and I’m not sure how well I would’ve intuited these things as a kid.

even as an adult who has a good grasp on my own boundaries and healthy understanding of my relationship with fiction and its utility as a coping mechanism, I can’t always know what I’m getting into until I’m already there. I don’t get triggered very often but when I do it’s not a very good scene. and when you Aren’t in a good place, when you Don’t have as strong of a grasp on what you’re doing or why, it can very quickly turn into a tool for self harm by repeatedly seeking out content that steps over your own boundaries because it makes you feel something.

I can’t say that I have the answer to these things, or rather I’d say that there are a couple of things that we as individuals can do to try to make the specific spaces that we inhabit safer (tagging things appropriately, doing what we can to make sure nsfw content has to be Sought Out rather than stumbled upon, etc), but largely there is no one good answer for how to make sure that nobody ever gets hurt. these situations are extremely specific, personalized, and often contradictory and at the end of the day there’s no choice we can make that will erase people with bad intentions. it’s not a black and white issue and it’s not one with an easy answer.

and I do want to say that the gut reaction is typically that something that makes you uncomfortable has gone too far and doesn’t deserve to exist. and like, that’s a very human reaction especially if something has deeply upset you through your exposure to it, but it’s still a feeling that should be examined. we all have different boundaries and we all have our own threshold for catharsis. what’s cathartic to me could be triggering to someone else, and what isn’t outright triggering to me could still not be cathartic. to that same end, it’s Okay to not like dark fiction, just like it’s Okay to not like roller coasters. but just because You don’t have a certain relationship with a work doesn’t mean that the creator doesn’t or that other people consuming it don’t or can’t. that doesn’t mean that these things can’t be criticized, Especially published media with actual studios behind it, but it should be criticized for How it handles its darker elements not the fact that it has them.

none of this, of course, is touching on actual csa or the depictions of real people. this fandom in particular is plenty familiar with the problem of people overtly breaking cc’s boundaries either with the depictions of nsfw or shipping with their characters when that isn’t appropriate (when it’s against stated boundaries or when the characters are minors), or by explicitly depicting the cc’s themselves. this is made especially unfortunate by how often these things will show up in tags not intended for them. this content should not exist, it should not be distributed, and it should not be hosted. obviously.

now, why have I had this conversation about my relationship with dark fiction, laying out a nuanced relationship with the concept and with the anti/pro-ship/anti-anti discussion?

over the past couple of months I’ve seen a couple of accusations about proudfreakmetarusonniku being a proshipper, warning people that they need to be excommunicated from the fandom. asking why they’ve been “allowed” to have a space in this fandom At All when they’re Obviously a degenerate and need to be deplatformed.

this confused me, because in the months that I’ve followed them I’ve watched them Directly call out pedophilia, boundary breaking, and Rape within fan content in this fandom when no one else has been starting that conversation. (people writing nsfw for characters when they shouldn’t, for people who’ve explicitly stated they don’t want that and for the Minors. even worse being the same thing but with genuine rpf, writing out explicit pedophilia about Actual People.) I’ve watched them describe how running into that content on ao3 (something that I’ve experienced as well, because of a Persistent Issue of people misusing or not understanding tags) made them feel Physically Ill, how that content shouldn’t exist on the platform at all but that it Definitely Should Not Be Publicly Available to anyone just trying to find dsmp content.

I saw them directly calling out people who broke boundaries when that could’ve easily painted a target on their back. I saw them calling out poppytwt, but also showing compassion and Concern for the minors being groomed in those spaces.

on the surface level what I could see was that this was an 18 year old who Actively took a stance against boundary breaking and pedophilia, putting themselves in the hot seat when they didn’t have to, who just happened to use the “Wrong Label” for some people and got targeted as being a creep for it. as a csa survivor their stance on actual child porn and pedophilia mattered to me much more than whether they read dark fiction or not, so I left it alone.

or I Tried to leave it alone.

since then I’ve been sent anons repeatedly trying to “warn” me about following and interacting with them that have grown increasingly hostile and accusatory. I’ve also noticed several mutuals between us who’ve made their own statements about how they don’t mind dark fiction or proshipping, and while I haven’t asked I have to assume that I’m not the only one being sent anons.

the issue has Evolved into anyone (or perhaps anyone Prominent but it’s hard to know with anons) who happens to interact with them being spammed to Stop. and while there hasn’t been the Overt threat of that same harassment being turned towards me for not complying in my inbox yet, I can’t be alone in thinking that that threat is obviously there.

so I did more research.

what I found was a story not dissimilar to my own.

I followed those same posts calling them out to the content I was being warned of, and what I found was a Minor speaking on how they used dark fiction to cope with their trauma. I saw a history of a Minor facing harassment for finding comfort in that fiction, deciding to use the Oh So Horrible label that was being stapled onto them with Pride because it didn’t actually matter what they did. they were going to have that label and more forced onto them anyways. I saw that minor grow into someone whose now only Barely an adult, facing a harassment campaign despite Openly standing against pedophilia and boundary breaking and having openly stated that their relationship with dark fiction stems from trauma.

and I have to ask, am I supposed to feel comforted by this? as a csa survivor, is this supposed to make me feel safe? because it doesn’t.

what’s the difference between me and them? that I was quiet about it? I just happened to grow up in a slightly different era, before people were encouraged to wear everything about them on their sleeve. I often wonder what I’d be like if I’d grown up on tumblr instead of forums and deviantart. I wonder what I would’ve experienced if I had people watching over my shoulder to decide if I’m consuming the good pure content in the good pure way or not. I wonder what would’ve happened to me if I’d been confronted about these things before I was ready to talk about my trauma. before I was Able to stand up for myself.

and I have to ask again, am I supposed to feel comforted by this?

am I supposed to be Comforted by the fact that people are targeting survivors for harassment and ostracization? people who were minors just months ago? am I supposed to be Comforted by this growing trend of using accusations of immorality to target people who haven’t done anything Wrong because once you can prove that your victim Deserves It people stop seeing them as victims? am I supposed to be Comforted by the fact that I could be next for what I’ve shared in this post?

I’ve seen this song and dance play out a million times over, and I’m not playing along. I’m not going to listen to an anonymous person waltzing up into my inbox and telling me that they saw goody proctor at the devil’s sacrament, and I’m certainly not going to fold when those anons get angry at being ignored.

so no, I’m not going to answer your ask, I’m not going to ostracize someone who hasn’t done anything wrong, I’m not going to participate in a harassment campaign, and I’m not going to be used as a tool to blindly spread accusations of immorality at the barest indication from a stranger in the first place.

and to be clear about something here: I have not asked metaru about their trauma, and no one else is allowed to. they didn’t have to share as much as they already have in the first place and no one is Owed the detail that I’ve just given. I’ve shared what I have because this is something that I’ve felt strongly about for a while now. because this is something that has weighed on me that I’ve never had the time or the place or the motivation to share. because I know that there are people in my position or metaru’s position that will never get to stand up for themselves. but not one god damn person is Owed information about anyone’s trauma. do not ask them.

I don’t know if I ever intend to address this again, addressing this as much as I have already has been emotionally taxing enough as is. but I’m not going to engage with the people directly responsible, nor am I interested in “calling them out.” I’m making my stance on the situation clear and I want other people to understand why I feel this way.

#discourse #not all anons have been angry #some have been well meaning #which is #Worse in context honestly #it's okay to reblog this #and even to add to it #but any clowning gets blocked immediately

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sentinelpri · 2 years

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Masterlists + Commissions/Requests

Hey, everyone! I'm sentinelpri, the owner of this blog. Some info about me; I'm 21 years old, my hobbies are writing fanfiction/baking/cooking/loving on my pets/drawing/painting, and I'm pretty friendly! So feel free to message me any time. I write fanfiction for a bunch of things. My AO3/Wattpad are both @sentpri. I have all of my multichapter content on AO3 and am in the process of getting it uploaded on Wattpad. On here, however, I only post my oneshots/headcanons as it's just far more convenient.

If you’d like to read my writing/see what all I have published, here are my masterlists of all the content I currently have out;

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Requests are open! You can also commission me if you’d like, but I know not everyone is in the position to do that. If you’d like to support me with a commission, DM me. <3 Details about requests below:

I currently am taking requests for oneshots/scenarios and headcanons from the following fandoms:

Adventure Time

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Ben 10 (all four cartoon series!)

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Your Dry Delight

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Note; if there’s a fandom you want me to write for that you don’t see on my list, ask about it! I may have just forgotten to add it lol... I’m into a lot of things ^^’

You guys may have noticed that Harry Potter and Transformers aren't on my fandoms list anymore even though I've previously written content for both. In regards to Harry Potter, I love the movies but have never read the books and am aware that JKR believes in anti-semitism and transphobia. While I still enjoy the movies as they are and will leave the previous content up, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think that I support her or her idealogies, because I absolutely do NOT. In regards to Transformers, anyone who's been following me for a long time knows that TF is what I got most of my following from and while I still am fond of it, I'm not nearly as interested in it as I used to be and would like to branch out instead of being flooded in TF requests and not being able to do anything else. I'm just burnt out on it.

Some other big no-no’s; I don’t write write NSFW content of minors, write OCs, write crossovers, write matchups, write RPF, or write noncon.

Another note; I bounce between interests and many of you know this. I also tend to get some requests that I just don’t feel like writing but with the volume of requests that I get I don’t want to have to respond to every one of those, as it honestly feels rude and a little repetitive. I also have an infant right now, so I may be a little slow on getting the requests that I do want to write out, but please don’t send them in multiple times. Thank you!

Lastly: I know I can’t age check everyone, but if you’re a minor, please don’t interact with my works that are marked NSFW. Thanks!

That’s about it for :) Thanks for reading

#request #requests #intro #introduction #writing #fanfiction #masterlist #masterlists #rules #my rules #about me #commissions #commission #comission page #request page #tumblr blaze

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elenyafinwe · 2 years

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Hey, it's the anon again. You opposing antis with Shisui and Itachi is awesome. Changing (or inventing) their entire ancestry just to spite antis made me laugh! I never understood the purpose of all the hate. There's enough bad stuff going on in the world without antis policing fanfiction. So go for it! 💟🌈 (Btw don't feel obligated to keep the anons open if someone sends hate again. I read your reasons for closing them and I completely get that.)

Your power, anon! o.0

Yeah, same. Why shitting on how people ship fictional characters. Ok, it does get creepy when it comes to real persons, but we talk about some lines in a book or animations on a screen. They literally don't give a fuck about this. And if I were the creator of a fandom with fanfics, I certainly wouldn't want the fans to fight over it. Just chill, vibe and enjoy. Fiction is for exploring borders in a save way. It doesn't harm real people.

Did I ever told the story of how some weirdo on Twitter attacked me for liking Tobirama? That pro/anti Tobirama vs. pro/anti Uchiha bubble is sooooo fucking weird o.0 That person claimed that all the Uchiha are Muslims and that I have no right to have an oppinion on that when I'm not Muslim myself. That was soooooo weird?????? "Are ou Muslim yourself? Answer quickly!!" and my trolling ass had to quoteretweet that with "quick".

Oh! Or that moment, when I tweeted about my headcanon that Númenor is Indian inspired for me, and some racist attacked me for that Bollywood abomination I created. Would be bullshit and not "true to Tolkien" or something.

The Naruto fandom has it's shipping wars and the Tolkien fandoms it's racists.

Every now and then the incest debate comes up in the Tolkien fandom and every time that poor soul gets roasted soooo hard by the fandom. I love this fandom <3 I usually don't ship Russingon. For people who aren't in the fandom: Thats Maedhros and Fingon, their fathers are half brothers. And some antis think, it's evöööööl incest. That's the moment where I actually ship it 😇

Ship and let ship and if I'm a proshipper for that and for some that's an insult, so be it. I don't give a fuck and spite was always my best motivator to do something. (Reminds me to write more ShiItaSasu smut. The last time I did that I lost follower 😇)

#ask

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animeandmangatalk · 3 years

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when antis discover the shounen genre

It’s as amusing as it is sad when people don’t understand the shounen genre. Shounen is a genre directed at young adult males. Though people of all sorts of genders fell in love with it as it is. It is very diverse and covers a range of topics. Many popular series, especially those in the west (the Big three - One Piece, Bleach, Naruto) have a focus on fan service. Not all shounen include as much violence or fan service, but if series do, that’s fine.

What caused this post? A twitter discussion about fanservice in One Piece- particularly how the females were portrayed. Some people stated they did not like the fanservice too much.

Others argued that the females were not reduced to their looks and are continuously portrayed as smart, kind, well versed in combat, mentally strong, good at combat and over all rather well rounded compared to many male characters who are more muscle than brains. Some also noted they did not mind or even enjoyed the fanservice.

Things got tricky when people and Oda were insulted, and accused of being pedophiles for providing and liking fanservice. It is interesting that people expect the characters like Sanji to be perfect, respectable characters without faults. Of course Sanji’s behaviour is over the top and would not be acceptable in real life.

One Piece is a series about lawless pirates. If Sanji’s behaviour were to be taken as an example, One Piece would also “promote” stealing, solving problems with violence, underage drinking, over eating, running away from home, trusting strangers, vandalism, hurting people, killing people, breaking out of prison, celebrating a criminal life. People realize that these acts are only acceptable in fiction for entertainment purposes. People know Sanji’s behaviour is not something that should be copied in real life, many of these scenes also lead to funny moments (characters getting punished for not respecting other characters personal boundaries. This leads to an educational value of showing problematic content, though that’s a new argument on its own).

Complaints regarding fanservce are especially noticable in big fandoms. Perhaps, because the fandoms are very active compared to others, maybe because many new (western) people now discover these shows and are shocked that these series do not match well with their (western, christian influenced) values. People argue that norms and values can and should change. Just because no one complained about fanservice 20 years ago, does not mean people can’t speak up against it today.

Criticism should be allowed, but how much sense does it make to complain about fanservice in anime and manga, when a huge part of that medium is to allow people to explore and express themes in fiction? The main focus of many shounen series is not to educate, but to entertain and allow people an escape from strict real life.

It might be best to compare the Fanservice in shounen series to soft pornografic content. (The following refers only to fictional content such as anime, manga, doujinshi, fanfictions).

Usually people select content they like. If people don’t like fanservice in shounen, that’s okay. No one forces them to watch it and there are plenty other shounen with less fanservice. Of course many scenes would still make sense without the fanservice, but why should an author censor themselves? According to sales and fan content created (doujinshis, fanfic, posters, pillowcases...) the majority of the readers do not mind fanservice and enjoy it. It’s been part of the genre for a long time and changing it would equal to requesting slasher fics being less violent.

Anime and Manga even if targeted at a young, Japanese audience, might not be suitable for a young Western audience.

Just because someone is uncomfortable with a scene does not mean an author is required to censor their content. Everyone is feeling uncomfortable about different things. If everyone had to be pleased, nothing would be left. The anime and manga community fought long and hard to be able to view uncut content. Based on how some people argue, it seems like they’d prefer a 4kids version of One Piece and other shows. Currently a lot of content creators have to fear about their work getting censored. A purity mentailty is fighting to ban pronographic content (OnlyFans, Patreon ect. are all affected by this). Is this the future? To ban all pornografic content?

#pro shipping #pro ship #fanservice #sanji fans

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advocaado · 3 years

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Fiction does not exist in a vacuum and absolutely can and does affect reality.

HOWEVER

Before you pin on your thought police badge and march off to start attacking people on the internet for the media they consume and create, let’s take a minute to talk about nuance and identify some actual problematic trends in media which have real life consequences.

The big question you need to ask yourself before you decry a person or piece of media is: Is that person/piece of media promoting, validating, and normalizing trends or acts that hurt real people? Or is that person/piece of media exploring a dark theme in fiction/harmlessly indulging in a kink?

Below are some examples of cases where “problematic” content in fiction is a danger to real life people, and many where it isn’t. This will not be an exhaustive list. I don’t have endless amounts of time to sit here and talk about every problem in fictional media, and even if I did, I wouldn’t, because there are many more things I’d rather do with my time.

Disclaimer: No media is 100% problem free. No human is 100% problem free. Engaging with others online to discuss problems in media is totally fine. If you don’t like something, it’s your god given right to bitch about it. Bitch to your heart’s content. Just don’t be an absolute ass cloak about it.

Example 1: Huckleberry Finn

This book famously contains racism. Is this a problem? No, not really. Listen. This book is literally about how racism is bad. The message is to not be a racist piece of shit. That’s the takeaway. If you got any other message from this book you need to work on your reading comprehension. Books that teach lessons are good things and impact society in positive ways. This book does literally the opposite of normalizing, promoting, and validating racism. It’s taught in schools for this exact reason. It’s not sugarcoated and that’s exactly what makes it powerful.

Example 2: Fairy Tail

The famous complaint about this and other works by Hiro Mashima is that the women are overly sexualized. Over sexualization of women is a big problem in media across the globe, but particularly in the media that comes out of Japan. It’s a problem that absolutely does affect real women. More on that later. But is Mashima really the big perpetuater of the kind of gross male reader voyeurism that has such a fierce grip on the anime industry? Actually, no. Not really. Yes, almost all the female characters in Fairy Tail are hot and have big boobs in a way that appeals to men. However, the lens through which Mashima tells his stories is not voyeuristic. He doesn’t go out of his way to draw panty shots or sexualize female characters nonconsensually. 9 times out of 10 the women are sexy because they want to be and do it in a way that is empowering for them. There are occasional exceptions, but by and large Fairy Tail is not the big offender of female objectification in anime. Moreover, almost all its male characters are hot and have six packs and idol hair in a way that appeals to women. Everyone is hot. There is no deeper meaning here. Enjoy this series if you like to watch hot people having fun and going on adventures together.

Example 3: Goblin Slayer

Oh, boy, Goblin Slayer. Now here’s a can of worms. Many upon many have decried GS for its inclusion of rape scenes and mentions. The goblins in GS have no females of their own species so they must impregnate human women to continue their race. This sounds utterly awful and it is. But is this finally our shining example of a dark theme in fiction that is problematic in a way that is dangerous to real people? Sorry, but no. Firstly, the concept of a fantasy creature who needs to use humans to reproduce was not invented by Kumo Kagyu and is in fact common in folklore around the world. He didn’t make it up as a way to condone rape. Could he have? Sure. But that’s not the reality of the series. The assault by goblins on human women is not treated as a good thing by Kagyu. It is shocking and horrific and has big consequences within the narrative for both the goblins and their victims. It isn’t treated lightly and does not serve to normalize, validate, or promote rape in real life. The reader/viewer is meant to be disgusted by the goblins, and these scenes, which are few and brief, serve their intended purpose. Nobody is going out and assaulting women in real life because they thought it was cool when the goblins did it in GS.

Oh, but Goblin Slayer, I’m not done with you just yet. Because while it would be a huge stretch to label the inclusion of rape in the series a danger to real life people, there’s something else that you don’t need to stretch nearly so much to identify as such. Remember when I talked about the voyeuristic male gaze being a concerning trend in anime? Well, GS has that in spades. The normalization of sexually objectifying women in non sexual situations is very much present in the series. Describing in loving detail the chest size/shape of every female character often and with gusto is a big part of the light novels. Kagyu loves to describe what a girl’s boobs are doing while she’s sitting at a table eating or doing any other mundane thing for no reason other than to sexualize her for the reader. He made the intentional decision to make Sword Maiden, a rape victim, very overtly sexual for the male gaze without the character having any agency in it. Sword maiden isn’t trying to be sexy. She doesn’t own her sexuality. Hell, she’s blind. Being sexy doesn’t empower her. She’s just fap fodder for the male reader. These things normalize objectifying women and are part of a longtime trend in anime which have real world consequences for both women and men. The sexualization of nonconsenting women is a huge problem in Japan and very much promoted through their media. Anime and light novels continue to send and perpetuate the message that objectifying women is okay and natural for boys to do, and while Kagyu certainly isn’t the worst offender, he’s happily hopped aboard that trolly because he doesn’t see anything wrong with it. And he can’t, because it’s been SO normalized.

Example 4: The Birth of a Nation.

This movie, while entirely fictional, is straight up anti-black propaganda intentionally made to spread hate and fear of black people. Obviously this is incredibly problematic and harmful to real black people. This movie was designed to be that way. The message is very clear. It’s a movie meant to rally whites against blacks, and it did. Horrifically so. Typically media containing hateful messages is less overt about it today, but abusing stereotypes and caricatures of real groups of people and otherwise intentionally perpetuating harmful ideas through fiction is a shitty thing to do and should be wholeheartedly condemned. (Note the keyword “intentionally”. If an author does this out of ignorance, which is all too common, rather than condemn we should seek to educate. People are capable of learning and growing and canceling them for mistakes made in ignorance is every bit as shitty as the mistake they made in the first place.)

Example 5: Fanfiction and shipping

At last, we come to fan media. This is where “don’t like don’t read” becomes the golden rule. Indulging in a kink or exploring dark themes in fanfiction is harmless 99.9% of the time. Fanfiction simply doesn’t have the reach, and thereby the influence, that mainstream media has. If someone wants to write something really fucked up, that’s their choice and nobody is making you read it. Unless the author is outright condoning harming real people, it’s really not your business what they choose to write about. Furthermore, deciding to read fucked up fanfiction does NOT make you a bad person. As stated before, the human psyche is messy and the world is not squeaky clean or a safe place. People are drawn to dark things and there’s really nothing wrong with that so long as real people aren’t being harmed. If something makes you uncomfortable, don’t engage. Protect yourself. You’re not making the world a better place by harassing people online. You’re just being a jerk and honestly doing far more harm to real ass people than that 20 year old writer on AO3 who wanted to write a story about Sasuke having sex with Naruto’s son because of 10 years of repressed sexual impulses toward Naruto.

I could say more but I’m tired and ready to celebrate my Friday by getting drunk. Feel free to interact if you want, just do everyone a favor and don’t be a dick.

TLDR

Things that make you a bad person:

Murdering people

Sexually assaulting/harassing people

Having sex with children

Creating or indulging in porn of real minors

Harassing and sending death threats to real people over the fictional media they create and consume

Espousing, condoning, or perpetuating hate toward marginalized peoples

Espousing, condoning, or perpetuating hate toward anyone tbh

Using fiction as a vehicle to promote, validate, and normalize causing harm to real people

Generally being an ass cloak

Things that DON’T make you a bad person

Consuming media that contains problematic elements

Creating media that contains problematic elements so long as you aren’t promoting, validating, and normalizing harmful acts toward real people

Writing fanfiction

Reading fanfiction

Shipping whatever you goddamn want to ship

#there’s been so much discourse surrounding this that I finally needed to weigh in #pro ship #we’re allergic to nuance here #tumblr I love you but

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Hi Fourangers,

First of all, I love your blog so much. It's like going through a history back when Naruto Manga chapters were released weekly and your reviews were so Golden, Hilarious and spot-on. Am a new fan though (especially an SNS fan), I just got into this fandom only this year. I don't know if you'll answer my ask, but I just wanted to try and ask you few questions and I pray that you might answer me....

1. Since you've written in a post that you were active in the eastern part of the fandom, How was chapter 698 received in Japan? Because this is the chapter I inherently realized they both love each other. Yeah, I was too late but somehow whenever they interact with each other in previous chapters I always find them to be 'Weird' for just to be friends. Chapter 698 is just blatantly obvious that they love each other. Considering Homophobia and Shounen genre, I have no idea how it was perceived over there back then in 2014.

2. Which scene made you to ship SNS?

3. As an SNS'er how do you feel about the ending, where everyone was married off when they were just 19 just to make some shitty sequel??? As a new fan, I felt betrayed and It would've been perfect if they had stopped at chapter 699, leaving an open ending.

4. How do you face with the accusation about Naruto and Sasuke as brothers and we, SNS'ers are Incest shippers??? I don't care about that Indra and Ashura thing. But Naruto himself told he considers Sasuke as his Brother couple of times. And in Chapter 699, Sasuke acknowledged, 'He finally understood what it meant'.... It's the only thing that confuses me and I don't even have an answer!!! Plus, Kishi himself gave an interview that he based Sasuke on his Brother... I really wonder how he gave such an interview when he literally made them wear necklaces with each other's faces.

5. How was Naruto and Sasuke's sexuality perceived in the fandom back then??? Man!! Kishimoto just made lot of comic reliefs on their sexuality by making Sasuke on Sai jutsu, Naruto not interested in Icha Icha but making Reverse Harem no Jutsu, Naruto was angry when Konohamaru made Boy on Boy jutsu whereas he had no problem with him doing it. LOL. And all those homoerotic posters. What do you think about their sexuality, personally??

6. Why did Kishi had to develop their bond as Soulmates with some unintentional or intentional romantic undertones, if he was eventually going to pair them up with girls??? He easily could've gave many such romantic tropes to other girls and keep the bond between N and S as purely friendship or brothers. It still would've made sense.

7. Final one, Was Naruto really Nosebleeding when Kurama made a joke about Sasuke's kiss in Chapter 572???? We had a lot of heated discussion with other shippers where they claim that it was just a splotch of snot.

Sorry for the lengthy ask....... I am so eager to know your answers and I don't want to spam your ask box by sending multiple asks.

Thanks 😊😊😊

Hey yo! Welcome new SNS fan! I'm so glad that you joined us and I'll try to answer as best as I can. I'm not very active here on tumblr (except browsing lol) but your ask was such a delight to read.

1. I honestly don't remember. I think I didn't follow the japanese boards until the eventual 699-700 disaster. People were craving for reactions and I was curious about it too lol. And well...it's been years, I doubt I'll be able to find the reactions from that time. Imo, most readers don't care much about pairings, they just wanted to read about power-ups and abilities and the basic Naruto Vs Sasuke. Though there are some backhanded jokes about how gay Naruto is for Sasuke.

2. Hah. It's going to be very anti-climatic but it was when Naruto and Sakura were eating in Ichiraku Ramen. Naruto just used Rasenshuriken against Kakuzu and he busted his arm. Sakura was healing his arm and her attention was focused on Naruto. I used to be a NaruSaku shipper so I thought "Oh hey! This is the moment that Naruto would have a candid romantic moment!" But nope. He talked about Sasuke. And I was already getting suspicious about Sasuke's feelings towards Naruto ya know? And the whole "SASUKE IS MIINEEEEEE" in Orochimaru's lair. It was that moment I thought "you only have Sasuke in your head don't you, Naruto?" and started shipping SNS.

3. Hooo boy was I surprised when it was suddenly revealed that they had the basic heteronormative, boring marriage with bunch of clones of themselves. Everyone thought that it was almost like a bad fanfiction come true and some thought that it was fake. It was a pandemonium lolololol. I also thought that it was too lame to be true and lo and behold, when it came true I was floored. And then whenever Kishimoto threw new material, I got insanely pissed off because S*arada and B*ruto becoming pairing material is ok because they are a girl and a boy, and then they paralleled with Naruto and Sasuke which are only FRIENDS because they are both men. ARGH. Open ending was what Kishimoto planned from the very beginning but wrote a sequel to earn more money.

In that aspect, I made peace with it because of the whole anime/manga industry. I learned that, as a mangaka, you don't earn a lot of money with selling books, but rather with merchandise and profiting with sales right. And that guy have a family to raise, have two kids (which is hilarious about how B*ruto movie is his self-insert story), he needs a steady income. Also, I read reports about how anime studios are so poor and animators don't receive a decent income not to mention they are overstaffed and tired, and B*ruto is a good money cow for them to earn money so they can invest later on other anime they have more passion about it. So even though I hate this story with a strength of thousands suns, they are putting meal on people's tables and making them pay rents. I'm ok.

4. Lemme roll my eyes because in the Last movie they said that Hinata is related to Kaguya and so is the Uzumaki and Uchiha clan so they are all related woo hoo. But in the aspect of brothers because reincarnations bla bla bla, didn't Naruto himself said that he's no longer that brother, he's himself? Hmm...I gotta re-read it. One day. Maybe. lol. But I'm sure that he said "Sasuke is not my brother but I'm sure we'll understand well as friends" so there. Honestly, there are a lot of interviews out there and a lot of them are fake, so I'd always take the interviews with a grain of salt lololol. I do know from artbooks that Kishimoto wanted to create Sasuke as a rival-esque character and that was it. As he was developing Sasuke and Naruto's relationship, since he liked the whole yin-yang concept, whenever he wrote Naruto's story, Sasuke's was developed at the same time as his shadow.

5. I can tell from Naruto Forums (I used to participate back in that day) MOST of the non-shippers thought it was gay as hell, but you know...it was a relic of that time. While they thought it was gay, they didn't put too much thought about you know? Because it was shounen, and we knew that it was a joke that it couldn't be taken seriously. Of course, in the SNS fandom, we did make more analysis and there were a lot of instance when Naruto and Sasuke's sexuality was questioned. Some other non-shippers also thought that Naruto was totes gay for Sasuke (including a IRL friend).

Imo, Naruto is definitely bisexual in my view. Sasuke I think he's asexual or gay. He's attracted to Naruto, but mostly because of his connection to him, not because of his physical attributes, so yeah...asexual. Or Pansexual. Sasuke is more complicated lmao. Imo, Naruto could be pansexual too, come to think about it. Yeah, I guess both being pansexual can be valid.

6. He developed Naruto and Sasuke being soulmates from the very beginning, that was proven in his comments in artbooks and in the manga. He probably created with the intention of making it purely platonic, going beyond physical ties. Then he shot himself on the foot by drawing Naruto thinking about Sasuke on bed, talking about how Sasuke is cool, meanwhile Sasuke waxing poetic about how Naruto saved him. What gives? Lol. Yeah, I think he got too enamored writing their relationship that he didn't have time to write romantic ones. What I noticed that Sakura's popularity never was really high, so I could see some editors putting their fingers all over it and making her less relevant. Also, Kishimoto didn't know how to handle her, so when she got her time to shine was the whole fake confession disaster. Coupled with Kishimoto sexism and, in his words (Kurenai's flashback), women are useful to spout more babies, women was never really relevant in his story, unfortunately. Even Kaguya who was technically the big bad boss, was never really fleshed out in comparison to Madara. So the null het romantic moments it's not because he wanted to elevate SNS moments, it's more about how he's incompetent about it. It's either Hinata slowly elevating to a relevant status because forced interaction (Pain's sacrifice and Neji's death) or Sakura being obligated to be pining over Sasuke because she's a girl. It's even more painful to see that, if we ignore B*ruto, both girls are shown to be just talking with their kids and dusting shelves, basically being housewives, even though thorough the story (especially Sakura) it was implied that both of them have much more potential than being their husband accessories.

7. It was a splotch of snot. I can confirm myself lol. Whenever the chapter is out and fans would scan it to scanlate it, the editor usually would amp up contrast to max. So usually the lines get much more thicker than usual, when you read the official release which gets straight from the source, you can notice how the lines are more delicate.

Oh lol...but then we also have a lot of controversy about translating style. THAT one is a whole new can of worms to open.

Man I had fun answering your questions! Please send more :P

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Hi! Sorry I just have to tell someone about something terrible that I just saw. I was scrolling in anti naruto ending tags and saw a post about Sakura. In that post this person said that they loved Sakura because the person that she could have been and should have been. They literally tagged the post as anti canon sakura. Sorry but personally I am losing braincells. How do you like person but consider that person as anti in canon but pro in fanfiction or what??? Like that fanfiction person ISN'T Sakura. And in comments people where talking about how she should have been hokage. Bruh. But sorry for possible mistakes English isn't my first language so I hope you can undestand what I mean. Bye and have a great day/night/evening/morning!!

Anyone who is spouting about a mediocre and low-life character as, "XXX Character should have been a President.", just know that they are exactly like that 'said Character' in real-life and hates to see themselves on-screen.

So, that Anti Canon Sakura person must have been a real-life Sakura and likes the better version of themselves.. i.e, the Fanon Sakura.

Recently, I saw this interesting discussion thread in Tumblr.... Not from Naruto fandom of Course. But from Mo Dao Zu Shi Fandom. Mo Dao Zu Shi is a popular Yaoi Novel all throughout Eastern Asia.

That whole tumblr thread was just saying what I've been saying about Kishimoto's take on women Characters in Naruto Manga in many of my posts....

Apparently, some stupid pests has started this Misogyny rant in a Yaoi Novel and the OP got Annoyed with those pests. Because those pests are calling the Author (A Women at that) as a misogynist... Believe me, that fandom never got such lame complaints until few months ago.

One of the Reblogger made a Wonderful point which I'll requote it here...

But before that let me give you a preface.... There are 2 popular Yaoi writers in China and both of them are women. One's name is Priest... Other's name is MXTX (Mo Xiang Tong Xiu). But MXTX is the most popular out of the two. Priest also writes Woman centered Novels as well. Whereas MXTX sticks with just Yaoi. What an Irony!!!! A Woman who writes an excellent novel about Woman as well as Yaoi is not popular. But a Woman who writes only Yaoi Genre with very less Women characters in her novels is the popular one!!!!!

So, that discussion goes like this...

I think this is one of the reasons why mxtx is popular, she wrote irrelevant female characters or bitter female characters, both are easy for women to project. She clearly could write strong and independent female characters, but how many in the fandom talk about Ling Wen? If girls here really are honest when they say they want strong female characters, female MC, in battle manga, then Claymore would be the biggest manga here, but no, they're thirsting over boys in bnha. If people really care about strong female characters who have their life together, Priest would be more popular than mxtx.

The Character Ling Wen, whom the poster was talking about... She is extremely a well written character from a Yaoi Novel named Heaven's Official Blessing. She is not that regular power punch girl, smash the enemy and all those non-sense. She is cunning, decisive, calm, quiet and goal-oriented. She had quite an impact on the story to the point of making the Main Character to run around in circles for many chapters, you know.

But I've never seen anyone talking about her in that fandom. Just like I complain about nobody giving a proper credit to Tsunade.. In fact, Ling Wen is more nuanced and layered than Tsunade... Ling Wen has her own Arc too.

And the poster asked a right question about Strong Female Characters.... And I also want to ask the same thing....

Like Why nobody in Naruto fandom talks about Claymore manga which is also a Shonen??? It has a strong female protagonist like many girls want in their dreams and yet... I've never seen anyone talking/citing about this Manga in this fandom????

So, what gives???

People want a strong women character ONLY IN THE PRESENCE OF HOT BOYS.... THEY TOTALLY WANT A MARY SUE WHO WOULD MAKE EVERY MAN FALLS FOR HER STRENGTH/CHARM... Other than that they don't care about story and development.

People like Jiang yanli exactly because she didn't do much, and got an arranged marriage to a rich and good looking dude, she felt like a YA fiction MC who has two boys around her. Priest's characters like Chen qingxu or Zhou Fei are far too competent and useful to project. Strong female characters aren't profitable, look at all these women thirsting after the male actors in The Untamed,

Unlike Sakura, I like Jiang Yanli... But she is just like that OP says... She didn't do much in the story other than offering comfort to the Main Character as his Elder Sister.

But people project a lot into her and expect something that doesn't match up with the narrative. Just like people expecting Sakura to be the Hokage. Just like people make a different Sakura in Fanon.... Jiang Yanli also has a different fanon version of herself.

They say Jiang Yanli should’ve been a cultivator, but Wen Qing had cultivation, they don’t wank her like they wank about the soup girl.

They say Jiang Yanli should’ve become sect leader, Bai Rong became sect leader in Thousand Autumns, and she worked for it. People are only interested in Yan Wushi’s tiddies.

I will rephrase this here...

They say Sakura should've been a Hokage.... but Tsunade is a Hokage, Mei is a Mizukage... but they don't wank Tsunade like they wank about this Sakura.

People are only interested in Yan Wushi's tiddies

Yan Wushi is a Male Main Character from another Yaoi novel called Thousand Autumns... And he looks like this

Looks like an Immortal Elf, isn’t he???

AND IF I HAVE TO REPHRASE IT.....

People are only interested in Sasuke's Tiddies....

LOLOL....

In Every damn Yaoi/Gay media.... Girls badly wants to self-insert themselves... And project their shitty self and complain about bad writing and misogyny non-sense. Whereas if you give them what they want, they just won't buy it. All they want is, to project themselves as this strong woman and get the boy they drool over in the Manga and then want that happily live ever after shit.

Writing strong female characters for a female audience is such a thankless job. They say they want strong women, but when you write them, they don’t buy it. What they say they hate is actually what they really want. They want weak and average characters for them to project and, also for them to complain about to look woke. They want to have their cake and eat it.

They say they want strong female characters.... But how many of them actually talk about Saori, another female character (an alter ego of Sasuke with same backstory, behaviour and aesthetics) which was also written by Kishimoto?

Different Fandom.... Same complaints...

#anti sakura #antisakura #narusasu #sasunaru

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