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#anyway. i never see trans women in media who look like me. even when they look close they're more curvy. or they voice train.
sharkgirldick · 7 months
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Really awesome how every trans fantasy comic has the characters become very visibly feminine and start wearing dresses and lots of pink. It's really great that they never turn out butch or clocky or deep voiced or have stubble or look like me at all. It's better that they're all cute, thin femmes, actually.
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Thanks for being so compassionate! As someone who's had to defend himself from assault pre transition and assault and attempted trafficking during transition which has contributed to some agoraphobia centered on thoughts like "damn, wasn't safe off T not safe on it", it's been rlly scary seeing ppl shrug off how transmascs are endangered in real life in service of discrediting transandro discourse. Cool seeing who's really real I guess????? anyways hope you're well and warm. Srry about my run on sentence lmao
There is absolutely nothing to apologize for. We only get to see one side publically, and that's pretty much just trans women issues. Media likes to cover just us. I rarely see news stories about just trans men. We don't see the stories about trans men getting stalked or followed around in stores by total strangers, getting attacked in public, rarely a mention if a trans man gets killed. It's happening but you don't see it. You don't see a flood of forum posts about the constant dismissal of, unique brand of hatred around, or the types of dangers faced by trans men.
My introduction to questioning my gender was actually FROM transandrophobia. The reason for this is I've had more of a curvy figure since ... well forever, even though my body was producing T on it's own. I got A LOT of compliments on it by pretty much all my friends (which were mostly girls, and yes that probably should have been a sign but I'm a bit thick sometimes, okay?) because I was "unconventionally sexy" because of it. I'm now remembering I do have a shirtless picture somewhere from before I was on HRT ... I'll work up the nerve to show that at some point to prove that point. Anywho, because of this, a random ass stranger had been following me as I went to grab a few things from a walmart after my shift. It was weird as fuck. Uncomfortably close, constantly looking at me but not what they were pretending to, and I kind of knew this dick was waiting until there was no one in the aisle before pulling something. I'd been mugged before at 14 and 15 so at 24 I was kind of like "I'm not getting stabbed in a damn Walmart" and just made sure to be quick. I got out of the store and met up with some old work friends and just let them know someone was following me and I wanted to wait them out. Props to my friends at the time, they bullseyed the dude (to be fair he wasn't being stealthy) and called him out. And he yelled back "You'll never be a real man" to me. My friends laughed at him because as far as we all knew, I was cis. But this would happen two more times in the same week. A lady would tell me I shouldn't be doing "this" to myself with a full body gesture, and that god "loves" me; and a college colleague flat out dismissed my concerns on something because "only a real man would need to worry about that". It got me wondering if this was a new fad, to hate on someones manliness, and upon looking that up I learned about what exactly transgender meant, the experiences of trans men and women (just a bit on women, my concern was on trans men at the time), and thought it was kind of cool there were people who'd know two sides to the gender spectrum. But it must SUCK to have to go through the bullshit I did and actually be affected by it. Like, no one has any right to tell another man they're less of one.
This whole situation would actually come back to help me 2 years later in finding myself. I'd only really looked up trans men and curiosity mid covid lock down would lead me to look up non-binary and then trans women. However, transandrophobia is how I, a trans woman, got her start. So it boils my blood when I see people talk about T being toxic or trans men having it easier. It shows a complete lack of understanding and a lack of acceptance and willingness to empathize. Trans men and trans mascs have different issues, that doesn't make them lesser, and while those issues may not affect me, it doesn't make it less of my problem to help deal with where I can. I know certain issues I'll have no experience on, no idea how to help, but that doesn't mean I can't still offer to be support. Everyone should be doing the same, and shame on those who aren't.
You deserve equal treatment and support in your fight for it, not dismissal. Those that dismiss the issues of trans men aren't allies, they're transphobes. And fuck transphobes.
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By: Prisha Mosley
Published: Apr 4, 2023
The transgender community of today is built upon its cult-like tactics of brainwashing, information control, and deception. It has grown so big because of these lies and the control they can take over young minds, and the minds of the mentally ill.
I hope that by discussing some of these lies I can shed light upon them and allow people to see more truth and a different narrative than what is being pushed by the media and transgender community.
1. Transition or Suicide
“Would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son?” This is what my WPATH certified therapist asked my parents in front of me on my very first appointment. This is the narrative among doctors and the community. However, research has shown that rates of suicide actually increase in transgender patients after they receive treatment. Nonetheless, the idea that if anyone, particularly a child, does not receive “gender-affirming care” they will kill themselves.
This is a myth. A lie. No one will die if they are denied access to experimental, mutilating, sterilizing surgeries and drugs.
We can rebut this argument with simple facts. If transgender people have always existed, which is another narrative the trans community pushes, then there would have been droves of child and teenage suicides throughout history we would be able to look back at and refer to. These children would be killing themselves because they didn't have access to “gender affirming care, because it did not exist.” But this did not happen. This is a brand new medicine, which people have never wanted or needed before now, because it was never accessible before.
Transition is not a cure for suicidality, anyway. It won't make suicidal thoughts or ideation go away. In fact, as mentioned above, suicide rates actually increase after transition.
Suicide is a multifaceted issue, and multiple factors are required for a completed suicide. There is no such thing as “trans children not given hormones will kill themselves.” “Misgendering” someone will not cause them to kill themselves. Suicide requires four things, including hopelessness and a lack of support, and will not happen without all four factors being present.
Sources are below.
Finally, the effects of hormones, especially testosterone, can increase suicidality just like completing surgery does.
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2. Trans Genocide
Another common with being pushed is that a transgender genocide is going on right now. This is also false.
Claiming that there is a genocide happening when there is none is incredibly disrespectful to people's who are victims of genocide.
Genocide is defined as the purposeful killing of a large group of people with the purpose of erasing that group or people.
No one is going out in droves killing transgender people, at least not in Western society where the ideology is being pushed.
Being denied access to women's spaces will not kill any trans-identifying male. The same goes for their sports. Hearing your birth name will not kill a person either.
I have also heard claims that the laws being rolled out to protect children are genocidal, and will cause people to kill themselves, a part of the genocide… This is also false, and as mentioned above, the CDC made a statement about the four factors required for suicide. None of them included “anti-trans bills.”
3. It's Reversible
This is one of the biggest lies they tell, most commonly to naïve, impressionable children. Trans-influencers even make videos saying that you can just go on “T” (testosterone) for a little while and essentially pick and choose which side effects you would like to experience. This is false. Testosterone effects everyone, and every woman, differently. You don't know what side effects will come first, you don't know what will happen when you stop, and there is no way to know until it happens. At that point, the effects are irreversible and unchangeable.
This goes the same for estrogen abuse in males. The effects, such as atrophy, and the growth of male breasts, will not go away. They are irreversible side effects, and they are life-lasting.
When I am testifying on bills, I often hear that puberty blockers are reversible, too. This is another lie for more reasons than one. Puberty blockers have not been studied for their use in completely ending puberty in a young person. Their use has only been studied for things like cancer, sterilizing pedophiles, and use in children with precocious puberty. In the case of precocious puberty, they are used for a very short period of time, and are not meant to completely stop puberty, but rather simply delay it so it can be experienced at a normal time.
Everything that is meant to develop and change during puberty will stop when puberty blockers are in use, and time is not reversible. You will never get back the time you lost when you were supposed to be growing your bone density, and developing your brain. And there is no information about what happens mentally to a child who is on puberty blockers, and if there is irreversible damage to mental health and the development of the personality.
Surgery, of course, is irreversible. There is no going back once you have lost body parts, or put in fake implants, or destroyed your sexual organs.
Reconstruction is almost impossible, will not be covered by insurance, and cost tens of thousands of dollars. It is also difficult to have follow-up surgeries after such mutilating procedures. It is traumatic on the body, and mentally and emotionally as well.
For myself, breast reconstruction will consist of at least three surgeries, and I may lose my nipples altogether. They have to be grafted once again, and are not extremely likely to survive the procedure.
First, I have to endure a tissue expander. An implant-like bag will be placed in my chest, and I will have to go to the surgeon every week for a period of at least 6 months to have the bags injected with saline through my skin. This is so that I will grow more skin, because my flesh was taken during the surgery and my chest is tight.
After my skin has regrown, I will have to remove the tissue expanders and heal for a while. After that, the implants as well as some fat, which will be taken from my stomach and thighs with liposuction, can be put into my chest beneath the loose skin. Once this is completed, after I have healed again, we can attempt to surgery to graft my nipples again, but there is a chance they will not survive. I may lose my nipples completely.
The cost of these procedures is an estimated $35,000, and is not covered by insurance. Even still, I will never be able to breastfeed. I lost that ability forever as a teenager.
4. Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria isn't Real
This is another lie which I hear when I'm testifying. I remember in Texas, a doctor laughed when she was asked about ROGD.
Rapid on set gender dysphoria is gender dysphoria which is experienced suddenly and usually at the onset of puberty or right after a trauma.
Most common patient seen at a gender clinic is experiencing rapid onset gender dysphoria. According to the Journal of Adolescent Health, many parents are reporting that their parents are experiencing ROGD.
I experienced ROGD after a sexual assault. I became disconnected from my gender, and I blamed all of my problems on it. I believed that only girls were sexually assaulted, and believed that if I remained one, it would happen again.
Another common reason youths, particularly girls, experience ROGD, is porn. Porn shows girls a sexualized version of femininity which is degraded and abused for the sake of men. My early exposure to porn also contributed to my ROGD. I have seen many young “trans-men” claim that they are transitioning to escape sexualization.
My story is not uncommon.
6. Gender Euphoria
“Gender euphoria” is advertised by the trans community a lot, but it's another lie.
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No one experiences euphoria about their sex. Autogynophiles experience sexual euphoria and gratification when they are perceived as women, and wrong sex hormones have steroid-like effects, but that is all. The high that trans-identifying people are chasing is either sexual gratification or a literal high from drugs.
There is no such thing as gender euphoria. You can be comfortable and satisfied in your sex, and experience sex based pleasure, but gender euphoria isn’t real. Despite its non-existence, however, people suffering with gender dysphoria are set on the path to chase this high. This is how life-long medicalization happens.
7. The Male and Female Brain
There is talk within the trans community about “female vs male brains” and the claim that transgender people have the brain of the opposite sex.
According to a study written about my ScienceDaily, (linked below), "Men and women's brains do differ slightly, but the key finding is that these distinctions are due to brain size, not sex or gender," Dr. Eliot said. "Sex differences in the brain are tiny and inconsistent, once individuals' head size is accounted for."
There is not only no evidence that trans-identifying people have the brain of the opposite sex, but actually, evidence to the contrary. Despite this, the trans community, and even doctors, will tell gender dysphoric people that they actually have the brain of the opposite sex. This is diabolical, as differences between the brains of the different sexes do not exist.
8. There is no Social Contagion
The presence of ROGD and the 4400% increase in minors who with trans-identifying, this myth is easy to blow out of the water. Many trans-identifying people are minors, specifically girls, the most demographic most vulnerable to social contagions. According to a study done by the UCLA, “Nearly one in five people who identify as transgender are ages 13-17.”
The social contagion theory was first suggested by concerned mothers of ROGD teens. ROGD is a subset of gender dysphoria specifically picked up and shared by teens, and as mentioned previously, usually at the onset of puberty of following a serious trauma.
The moms have gotten together and created support groups wherein the parents come up with other solutions for gender dysphoria than drugs and surgery. They have been touted as “hateful” and “anti-trans",” however, and face a lot of backlash. Despite the success the mothers have had with helping their gender dysphoric kids, WPATH says that “-all persons— especially adolescents—are deserving of gender-affirmative evidence-based care.”
9. No Surgeries are Happening on Minors
This is yet another false claim. I won’t horrify you with photos of nude minors with their breasts cut off, mostly because I think it is wrong and exploitative to share those photos, but I will tell you that it happens, and is continuing to happen.
If you would like to find this information for yourself, search for gender clinics near you, tell them that you have a 15 or 13 year old trans-identifying daughter and that she needs “top surgery” and see what happens.
Many lawsuits are beginning to come out by detransitioners, most of whom were minors when they were medicalized. Chloe Cole is a shining example of one of these young children.
Finally, WPATH has lifted all age restrictions on surgery for trans-identifying minors under their gross and negligent guidelines.
10. Informed Consent
“Informed consent,” is a form of gaining consent on paper which is signed by the patient to verify that they fully understand all of the consequences and side effects of the treatment which they are being given. This is another delusion, however, and for two reasons.
The first reason is that children cannot consent. Children do not have the mental or emotional capacity to consent to sterilization, or understand what life long medicalization means. I could not even grasp the meaning of the words “vaginal atrophy” when they were said to me, and without being trauma informed, my doctors did not know that I said yes because my understanding of atrophy made me believe that it would make it impossible for me to be raped again. This is the way a child thinks. Children cannot conceptualize what will happen to them if they undergo puberty blockers, wrong sex hormones, or undergo surgery.
The second reason is that the doctors cannot give proper informed consent because they do not know everything that happens when a patient takes wrong sex hormones, or what complications they may have from surgery. This is brand new and experimental medicine which has not been researched in the long term.
Puberty blockers have only been studied for their use in things like precocious puberty and their long term use remains unstudied. Wrong sex hormones have almost never been studied, and the studies that we do have are short term, not peer reviewed, and abysmal. Brand new surgeries seems to be coming out every month or so, like experimental clavicle shortening for trans-identifying males. There is no way for any research or long-term follow up to have been done on this.
11. “Trans Hate” is at an All Time High
At a time when the president is visiting with newly trans-identified men and writing them personal letters of congratulations, and trans-identifying people are all over the media with sponsorship deals and being influencers, and with acceptance higher than it ever has been before, there is the claim that “hate” is at an all time high.
This is said usually in response to the recent bills to protect children from “gender affirming care.” These are not anti-trans bills, but they are pro-women and pro-children bills.
In fact, with the rate of acceptance, there are more trans-identifying people than ever, and the trans community will tell you this themselves. This is how they defend against the social contagion argument. Their theory is that there have always been this many trans-identifying people throughout history, and that it is because of acceptance that they are able to come out and be public about their identities. I thought there was a genocide happening, though? So is acceptance high or low? They can’t keep the narrative straight.
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Sources:
Suicide:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031539.htm
https://twitter.com/LeorSapir/status/1631030625397252101
ROGD:
https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(16)30765-0/fulltext
https://www.parentsofrogdkids.com/
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
Male/Female Brain:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210325115316.htm
Social Contagion:
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/
https://thepostmillennial.com/new-study-supports-social-contagion-theory-for-surge-in-teen-girls-identifying-as-transgender
Surgeries on Minors:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
https://mercatornet.com/chloe-cole-gender-transition/80073/
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2022/09/age-restriction-lifted-for-gender-affirming-surgery-in-new-international-guidelines/?fj=1
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Prisha Mosley is suing the doctors and therapists who pushed her through the transition conveyor belt. She has testified at several hearings about her ongoing medical problems resulting directly from this medical malpractice.
Reminder: suicide is itself a socially contagious phenomenon.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/reckless-and-irresponsible
Decades of research suggest that suicide is a socially contagious behavior, especially in youth. In 1994, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a document titled “Suicide Contagion and the Reporting of Suicide: Recommendations from a National Workshop.” In a section titled “Aspects of News Coverage That Can Promote Suicide Contagion,” the CDC cautioned against “[p]resenting simplistic explanations for suicide.” Suicide, it explained, “is never the result of a single factor or event, but rather results from a complex interaction of many factors and usually involves a history of psychosocial problems.”
Those pushing the narrative should already know this, and those reporting it already do know this. It almost seems like they want it to happen to justify their activism...
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Sometimes it seems to me that the problem with female characters in the transformers franchise is that in the end, few people need them? Sometimes, here and there on social media, you can see the dissatisfaction of individual fans who do not like the current or past state of things with regard to female characters, but there is very little response from the audience. Fans have little support for existing female characters or new ones. Fans don't actively rebel when Hasbro once again makes a bad toy of a female character. And a personal observation in a familiar to me, but not the smallest part of the fandom - many female fans are more interested in male characters anyway. And of course there is a part of the fans who want to change the gender of previously existing male characters. And again, it seems to me that there is more love for the characters here, rather than a desire to add a female character.
What should we do about it? Probably nothing, the audience of this franchise is quite established for any changes, so we can only be happy when one of the authors really tries to make a high-quality female character, namely, to make a character and personality first of all.
P.S. A separate camp of fans are those who argue about how to explain the presence of females among transformers and whether it is necessary in principle. Why didn't anyone figure out that you can just explain it through the main origin? There was a Primus - he created Cybertronians in the image and likeness of the alien races he liked, which would explain all the strange appearance in general. If we take the origin of the Quintessons, then it's even easier, they created a product that was convenient for them / customers wanted / in the image of some race that they had previously enslaved.
Yeah it’s a weird circle jerk. Theres nothing wrong with having gals like Elita, Carly, Botanica, Glowstrike, and Hashtag, but writers and fans have a bad habit of needing female bots explained leading to Shockwave’s back handed comment about thinking female Autobots were extinct and IDW’s own confusing over corrections “We never had gender until Jhiaxus rebuilt Arcee for sick kicks, no wait wait, lady bots were a thing, they’re just maybe extinct on Cybertron for some reason, no no wait we still had lady bots all along, they’re just trans women on Cybertron while biological (technological?) women exist on colony planets!” Good grief pick a lane and stick with it.
Not helped is Hasbro’s own stance now that female robots exist only because of Solus Prime, which itself is a little insulting from a “diversity” standpoint because she’s the only lady among the Primes. One could make the argument Amalgamus is gender fluid because of his (their?) ability to Transform into anything, so in a roundabout way there’s two women among the Primes if one wanted to look at it that way, with Adaptus in a similar position (as the Guiding Hand in IDW are all men otherwise).
It’s the same problem I have with modern “diversity” initiatives because all they keep doing is drawing attention to people who are female, ethnic races, or LGBT, but never organically making them actual characters people can relate to and enjoy.
Sari might’ve had Indian roots, but they never drew attention to it instead focusing on making a fun little girl character who was best buds with the Autobots. Sort of the Gosalyn to their Darkwing. They did however draw attention to her (still unresolved) Cybertronian heritage but only because it was important to her backstory and character development. I guarantee if Sari were made today, she’d be a surface level checkbox brat akin to Ironheart who waxes about her people’s hardships and her own perceived problems despite not having any because of her father’s successful company. She forces herself on the Autobots to prove a point that didn’t need to be made, creating an old Stockholm Syndrome where the Autobots love her despite not offering any reason for them to. (It’s worth noting Ironheart’s comics are at least self aware she’s kind of a dipstick because her classmates and her black teacher she goaded into treating her “poorly” were visibly confused at her behavior and hesitantly indulged her whims.)
Cyberverse and EarthSpark are also horrible about this because they feel the need to gender bend most characters like Skywarp & Frenzy, rather than just use Slipstream (which CV did to be fair), create a brand NEW female jet, or in Frenzy’s case, just use Flip Sides.
Interestingly I’ve heard that Hasbro has limits on this, as the CV and ES teams wanted to make Thundercracker into a woman, but Hasbro said no, he’s a legacy player and has to remain a boy. (Or something to that extent.) Why Skywarp gets hit with the gender stick, I don’t know, but Skybound keeps the character male anyway, despite also being a legacy character. I imagine there’s more leeway with the Rainmakers because they were one off generics, and only recently-ish got names and expanded relevancy so it didn’t really matter if they were men or women. (That said, they appear to be still all male in IDW, with only Cyberverse and Earthspark making Nova Storm into a lady bot. Acid Storm was clearly meant to be male in CV, but an animation error and Catt speaking up led to the character being gender fluid unintentionally… who then died horribly. Organic representation, my actuator…) It’s nevertheless created an odd expectation perhaps, as the Seeker trio fluctuates in cartoons now, leading to the idea it’s now two ladies & a dude, with Nova Storm a permanent member in this idea. I don’t mind this in principle since Screamer, Cracker & Warpster were never really a cohesive trio anyway. Starscream was the star, the other two were just there and forgotten in most media. That Starscream/Slipstream, Thundercracker/Skywarp, & Nova Storm came about in modern stories as a group because of modern “diversity” soap boxing and muddled storytelling doesn’t help though.
There’s no real need to explain lady bots, they’re just there and if handled correctly you get awesome ones like BlackArachnia or memorable ones like Strika. Handle them poorly and you get Eren Jaeger Windblade, RiD Ultra Magnus wannabe Pyra Magna, and Primus forbid IDW Slide.
Primus and/or the Quintessons including ladies just because is acceptable because there’s no need to dwell on it, anymore than they decided to make LGBT bots. Live and let live, don’t dwell on it is my feeling. Just have said Transformers be cool and memorable and they happen to be this or that, I don’t know why that’s such a lost art anymore.
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weird identity post warning
i’m a trans man who thought i was a lesbian for a long time and i figured it out eventually but when i did i was really hesitant to let go of the label bc i had found so much community through it. i’d found people who understood me, queer shows and movies, and music that i resonated with. and even though it’s not for me anymore, i still feel very connected to that, especially the music, but i also often feel like i’m not allowed to enjoy it or that i’m intruding on something that is only for wlw, or even just women in general. and i can always understand and connect with it because of my experience before i transitioned but when i engage with certain media, especially in public, it still looks and feels like i’m intruding or trying to make it about me. i feel kind of stuck sometimes- like i’m trying to step away from things that were not made for me, but by doing that there isn’t much that i can connect with. everything made for men is never for all men, it’s for cis men. everything for trans men is either kalvin garrah-fied or cavetown and there’s hardly ever an in between. don’t get me wrong, i enjoy cavetown, but i want something outside of that. anyways. there’s no resolution to this, i don’t have a solution or whatever, i just wanted to say it and see if anyone resonates
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local nonbinary guy complains for too long about gender
i feel like so much discourse would be less of a headache if we really acknowledged that to the vast majority of people who see you on a regular basis, your actual sex/gender/sexuality doesn't define how they treat you, it's your presentation/appearance. the person who takes your order at a restaurant just sees what you look like and hears how you talk. they do not know you. maybe if they say mister and you're brave enough to say "actually i'm a miss" your identity will supersede your appearance and they'll say "sorry miss" or maybe it won't and they'll just go uh huh. like i'm just thinking about myself as an example because i'm 5'1 and feminine and multigenderfluid and transmasculine and i get addressed as a cis woman because i look like one. sometimes i work up the courage to correct someone if i feel like i'm in a safe environment. usually i don't. and if my boss doesn't give me a raise because he doesn't think women deserve raises, me going "actually i'm almost never a woman, i cycle through genders on an unpredictable basis so nonbinary is a pretty decent catch-all, i just dress like this because i like these clothes" isn't going to make him go oh i'm so sorry SIR, here's a 400000 dollar raise. you know? i'm treated like a cis(het) woman because i look like one. our presentations/appearances may not match up with our real genders, for better or for worse, and we're treated how we look. but it's not even that simple because if you're trying to pass but someone thinks you're the wrong gender anyway that plays into it too. like idk maybe i'm being reductive but so much of how we go about the world and interact with people is based on how we LOOK. why isn't that discussed more? (some) social media is the only place where you can find out someone's true gender/sexuality before seeing what they look like. are yall so terminally online that you think that's how it always is?? like obviously it isn't always based on looks bc some trans people will get deadnamed or misgendered no matter how masculine or feminine they look, but that's when the transphobe knows they're trans. if they passed them on the street and perceived them as cis they would treat them how they would treat a cis person. i have similar beef with sexuality labels bc throw in ATTRACTION to the mix, SO MUCH of which is based on looks, and it makes everything so stupid because sexuality labels are based on identity not appearance when that's not how it WORKS!! i'm bisexual so this doesn't even apply to me as much as it would apply to monosexual people but like my bf didn't think i was hot and then see that i use they/them and go oh nevermind i'm not attracted to you because i'm heterosexual which means i, a man, am attracted to women. he was attracted to how i looked, my identity didn't matter! it's just so stupid. it's all stupid. why does queerphobia have to exist at all. why did we have to establish this bullshit gender binary in the first place. we have to live and sit in anger and resentment and sadness because some fucking idiots thousands of years ago decided for some reason that this is the only way to exist. if i think about it for too long it makes me so fucking mad. im going to bed
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The Unjust Attack On Strong Female Characters With Masculine Traits
So, I saw posts with bs about strong female character and how these representations are harmful and unrealistic and blah blah. And while they might are written in a way to showcase a problem, if we look carefully, we will find they are full of misogyny and covert hatred.
What's really stupid is that these posts/content rarely critique the character and can't point out one thing wrong with them (without ignoring or lying about canon). They have nothing substantial to back their opinions. Instead, they use generic words like agenda and TERF propoganda to justify their statements. And the usage of such words cause guilt tripping and fear.
But anyways, I will be trying to debunk all these arguments and give my own thoughts on the same.
Are masculine female characters stronger?
The answer is a big, fat no.
It is true that in today's society as in the past, femininity and feminine qualities and hobbies are looked down upon as weaker and inferior to masculine qualities, and a woman that displays certain masculine traits is considered stronger than a woman who displays certain feminine traits. Notice the word certain because if a female character is too butch, or too muscular, then she is hated. It is also true that in most media today, many strong female characters who were traditionally more feminine are made of embody certain masculine traits in order to turn them into a strong female character, like in the Amazon adaptation of Cinderella, which replaced og Cinderella's kind hearted nature with a girl boss attitude. This is a problem since a female character can be traditionally feminine and strong, as well as display certain acceptable masculine traits and still be weak.
But while this an issue, it turns into a problem when people take this framework and start hating on any female character that displays traditionally masculine traits, especially if she occupies a space earlier held by a male character. Like Sylvie.
Here's a few common arguments they make and how these are all flawed reasoning with covert hatred and misogyny.
She's a just man with boobs
Ok, this is the first argument I see and it never makes sense to me at all. Why would you call her a man with boobs?
Because she is a female that isn't stereotypically feminine and has masculine traits and personality. So, let me ask this question, does a woman stop being a woman because she isn't feminine? Why does a woman have to fit into a narrow, antiquated set of ideals to be called a woman, or else she isn't one?
News flash, a masculine woman is still a woman, a feminine woman is still a woman, a butch woman is still a woman, a trans woman is still a woman. No one stops being a woman because she is good at fighting, or because she is closed off or because she is a loner or because she isn't stereotypically feminine.
For example, some people claim Sylvie is just a man with boobs because she is fuelled by her rage and uses force. And I hate to break it to people that women are equally capable of being consumed by rage and being revengeful. Being a woman doesn't mean being a goody two shoes who is incapable of hurting an ant. We are equally complex people, with complex emotions.
And for another thing, this entire idea that women should only have x qualities, and men should only have y qualities just feeds into the outdated gender stereotypes and stunts the emotional growth of each gender. There's nothing wrong with being a woman with masculine qualities just as there is nothing wrong with being a man with feminine qualities.
She is a Mary Sue
This is the next most common argument thrown towards any female character that shows even a bit of competence or shares a place traditionally held by a male character. But in calling a competent female character a 'Mary Sue' and saying that is it because she is showcased as awesome and without any struggles, these people totally ignore any backstory that justifies her strength or competence.
Another very interesting point to note is that this label is mostly attached to female characters who overshine or atleast are on par with a male character. Even if her backstory justifies her competence or strength.
Take Sylvie for example again. She was abducted as a child and has been on the run since then, hiding in apocalypses, all the while the TVA hunted her down. Growing up in such conditions obviously made her good in combat and hence justifies her competence as a fighter, because her survival depended on it. But people conveniently ignore this part of her backstory to label her a Mary Sue just because she is strong.
And that begs the question, do these people think that a woman isn't capable of being good enough at something, even if she has been doing it for a long time just because she is a woman? Do people think our gender makes us inferior to men, that if a competent woman outshines a man in media, then it's only possible because she is being glorified, not because she is capable? Coz obviously it doesn't matter if she has been working for it her whole life, a woman still can't be better than a man coz she is a woman.
Her struggles are unrealistic
Now, I agree that any fictional character has to be relatable and display some basic human struggles for audience to bond with them. But, that in no way means, that their struggles have to fit into your definition of a struggle and mirror your real life experiences for it to be valid else it is unrealistic.
Male characters, especially white males are allowed to stand on their own as their own character, without having to function as a self insert. But when it comes to female characters, people will try to invalidate the struggles of a character as being unrealistic only because they don't exactly match their own life experiences.
So, let me ask you this question that why does every female characters have to function as a representation of the experience of every single woman and why can't they just exist as their own person with their own story, struggles and experiences? Why does a female character have to mirror your life exactly to be valid?
And secondly, her struggles are realistic to whom? Just because you never faced certain problems, doesn't mean other's never faced it. For example, for a person living in the West, the struggles of women in third world countries is going to be unrelatable. But that doesn't mean their struggles aren't valid or unrealistic. And why do you feel the need for a female character to function as your self insert and completely resonate with your life experiences to be valid, otherwise she is just useless?
Coz news flash again, women aren't a monolith. We are all different with different life experiences, struggles and problems. That is the founding principle of intersectional feminity, that our experience as women varies depending on your socio economic status, our religion, our race, our nationality etc. And it is possible for us to have widely varied experiences. If you need a woman and her experience to resemble your own experiences, if you need her struggles to match your own in order to be valid, then that's a you problem.
Coz there are so many things you would never experience unless you don't belong to a certain group or undergo a certain difficulty. This idea that if someone struggles don't match my own, if it doesn't seem realistic to me then those struggles are invalid is a extremely dangerous and exclusionist idea that is often used to discriminate against certain groups and erase their struggles. Coz then it gives privileged people, who have rarely experienced those difficulties to invalidate the struggles of marginalized groups who do experience them, all because these struggles aren't realistic according to their narrow, biased world view.
For example, a lot of Sylvie's struggles arise from her trauma, and while I don't want to superimpose that the struggles of a fictional character is similar to the struggles of real life people, her story draws parallels with stories of children of human trafficking or refugees who are targetted because of their race or ethnicity. And claiming her struggles are unrealistic, is straight up disrespectful to actual people who struggle from such situations. Coz saying being ripped away from your home is unrealistic invalidates the struggles of refugees, saying growing up on the run while being hunted is unrealistic invalidates the struggles of people who are a victim of targeted genocide or ethnic cleansing or those who have to flee to avoid persecution. Such a statement is extremely offensive and insulting to actual victims, even if it is used in the context of a fictional female character.
She isn't a role model
Again, this matches my previous point that a female character should be able to exist as her own character, without her turning into a moral science class for women. Especially since we have a plethora of morally grey, complex male characters that are fan favourites despite not being a role model.
But personally to me, this argument always sounded like a covert way of shaming women characters who don't fit into the image of ms. Goody two shoes. And it also reinforces the century old negative stereotype that a woman can either be a pure, innocent soul or a heartless vamp. And that any woman who isn't pure and innocent is horrible.
Now that doesn't mean that we don't glorify and hail their flaws but a woman isn't invalid or bad, just because she is morally grey. And especially if her place in the narrative is that of a morally grey character.
What baffles me is that these same people who apply such high standards and shame female characters if they fail to stand up to their high moral standards will often justify and defend the wrongdoings of male characters, who do equally bad, or worse things.
In the end, women are capable of being complex, morally grey and flawed. And this critique of women who are treated as flawed in narrative, just because they are flawed is misogynist coz the underlying theme isn't that the character is flawed, that much is supported in the narrative, but rather a hate campaign because the character dared to be flawed and wasn't ms. Goody two shoes.
She is emasculating to men
Now, any critique of a strong, female character isn't complete unless there is a mention of male characters and how their strength is emasculating to male characters. Coz, obviously you can't have a female character without comparing her with a male character.
And this is one of the most harmful argument of all, coz it covertly propagates hatred and paranoia against women empowerment by spreading the fear that strong women will ultimately be harmful for men. It also covertly reinforces toxic masculinity ideals and the idea that losing to a woman or a woman being better than you makes you less of a man.
This argument then serves a double edged sword, where on one hand, it spreads paranoia against women gaining power, thus attempting to keep them caged, and on the other hand, covertly mocks and ridicules men who don't fit into the toxic masculine ideal. Coz these people, who claim to be men activists will very happily exclude men when they fail to achieve the masculine ideal as incompetent and useless.
Take the series Loki for example. On one hand, the antis will hate on Sylvie, saying she was glorified and shown to be more competent and that it was disrespectful for Loki, on the other hand, these same antis who slander Sylvie for overshining Loki, will mock TVA Loki as Larry coz he doesn't succeed, despite the fact that the stakes were staked against him.
This paranoia and fear against women gaining power are also the founding principles of incels, who are fearful of women growing in power and believe that the empowerment of women is responsible for their shitty situation and harm and kill women over these imagined slights.
Guys, there is nothing wrong if a man isn't able to always top a woman, or he is sometimes unable to succeed, or if a woman exceeds a man in some areas. There's nothing shameful about a man who struggles or who needs help. There's nothing shameful if a woman does something better than you. This idea that a man has to be better than a woman is a very toxic one, that not only discriminates against women and sees them as inferior, but also places undue pressure on men to excel and achieve a standard of success according to the society's standards, not their own.
In the end, while these posts seem like such an intellectual critique, in reality they are full of exclusionist and anti feminine agenda that tries to sugarcoat it's hate with imagined slights and problems
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Can we just like, talk about the bad/non-existent representation we have for female characters? I grew up with it. I lived with it. It's a big reason why I began to identify as trans and distance myself from other women. The influences are still with me.
I woke up this morning and remembered when I was younger and my favourite character was Spock and my favourite thing was werewolves, and I wished I could have a female character like Spock, or a female werewolf that was actually well written, and I could never find it. Obsession after obsession with male characters, and I eventually lost any interest I had in female characters, because simply put, most are boring. Most are given no personality beyond loving men and makeup. Most women in shows are plot devices to advance the stories of the male protagonists, often to uncomfortable degrees, though no one realizes it. It's not overt, not something that's shouted from rooftops. It's just a pattern. Women just fade into the background, to serve as nothing but supports, and it's normal to us. Fictional women are written like that, and young, aspiring writers learn to write their women like that too. It's a cycle which goes on and on and on.
Now for some examples... The show I am currently watching is the Flash. Spoilers ahead! So. Does it have some strong, interesting female characters? Yeah! Caitlyn Snow, Lisa Snart, and yeah, Iris. Those characters had so much potential, but instead all the standouts are men. Harrison Wells got to be the sinister, merciless villain, then the dickish genius, and the goofy phony. Snart gets to be a villain who has a heart of gold, and a soft spot for his sister. Eddie gets to be the clearheaded one who's dragged into it against his will but sacrifices himself anyway. Cisco is adorable. He's funny, charming, and he cares for others. Generally a great, funny guy. On the other hand, Caitlyn is a bit guarded, sure, but her main personality trait is missing her fiance. Lisa Snart acts dumb and sexy to get what she wants. Iris' main purpose is being Barry's best friend. Yes, plenty of women have and care for boyfriends and it's not wrong to write a story about a woman pining for a man, but most women have personality traits beyond that. I also think that it's just cheap. Men aren't written to only care about their partners. Actually, a lot of the men in the Flash don't have partners. Even if they do, they are their own people away from them. They always have something else going on. So... Yeah the women aren't written well, but that's something you only notice if you're looking. This is something which is not limited to the Flash. It is a very very common pattern, which can be found in most TV shows made for older audiences. Comtrary to popular belief, it is not normal or okay.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, we have Arcane. This is the one show I've watched in which female characters take the forefront. In fact, I think Arcane opened my eyes to a lot of the male centrism in TV shows that I'd previously missed. I didn't know what I was missing until I saw Arcane, but it feels right. There are female-only fight scenes which are straight up messy brawls. The story doesn't center men at all and it is amazing. I didn't even really know how good female characters could be until I watched Arcane, but it's one of a kind. Most women are not written like that, and going back to other shows, you see it.
These influences are all so subtle, but if you see bad female characters over and over again, you never learn to write them in any other way, unfortunately. That is still with me. I'm still working to write female characters which don't fall into the familiar grooves of sexism in the media. I'm still working to find the same passion for female characters that I have for male characters. It's hard, but possible. I encourage other women to keep an eye out for it. Stop telling yourself that female characters are just less interesting. Stop ignoring it when women serve as nothing but support systems for men. Stop thinking it's unrealistic for women to be written like male characters. Stop letting it just be okay, and get mad about it. Get upset. Break the cycle. People will tell you it's okay, but it's not. Women deserve representation. You can think that.
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doesn’t the concept of “allosexual privilege” fall apart when applied to LGBT sexuality? it is quite literally illegal in many countries to have gay sex, we’re treated by conservatives like indecent and degenerate “groomers” just for existing, the representation/expression of same-sex sexuality in media is still heavily censored to this day… i could go on but i’m sure you get the point. the thing about “allonormativity” is that it isn’t “everyone should be having sex”, it’s “sex should be between a man and a woman, both white and able-bodied, in a monogamous and vanilla relationship”. and ANYONE who falls outside of that depiction of sexuality can feel alienated and punished by society, not just ace/aro people.
Respectfully, genuinely, two things.
The first being that you seem to presume I disagree with you on the concept that Allonormativity is bigger than “everyone should be having sex.” I’m assuming you didn’t take much of a look at my blog because I pretty specifically reblogged something like, yesterday, dealing with exactly that issue. Allonormativity and heteronormativity and amatonormativity and cisnormativity are all words picking out more specific pieces of the same concept—restrictive norms and normativity, general. I won’t go so far as to say that allonormativity requires that sex be with the “right person in the right way” (cisgender, heterosexual, PiV), because that’s very well addressed by heteronormativity, but there is something to be said about it requiring the “right amount” of sex (greater than 0, but less than a vaguely defined “too much”) and of course the expectation of sexual attraction and that attraction being acted upon. There are ways this entangles with aromanticism and alloromanticism, too, but I will focus here on the aspect I can personally speak to, which is asexuality. (But aros, know I’m formally including you in my analyses elsewhere.)
Which brings me to the second thing—intersectionality, it should go without saying (but never seems to when allonormativity is the topic) complicates things and compounds oppressions and changes the nature of oppression and oppressed experience. Just as a trans gay man experiences oppression differently than a cis gay man—no one would (no one who gets it, anyway) dare suggest the cis gay man isn’t oppressed. But his oppression will look different from a trans gay man. Allosexuality doesn’t magically override homophobia or something.
I will admit that a lot of people do have a hard time understanding how a “privileged group” can experience oppression uniquely according to their “privileged identity,” because for some reason we’ve taken intersectionality to refer only to those oppressed identities compounding on each other. But I would never even dare suggest that Black men do not experience oppression on the basis of their manhood—the racism they face is uniquely shaped by their being men. They still hold a privileged identity in the sense that they do not have sexism and misogyny to work against (assuming they’re cisgender—but that’s a whole conversation unto itself) whereas Black women do, but it would be entirely incorrect to suggest they see no oppressive forces that are uniquely tied to their being men—specifically Black men. We do not have perfect language to discuss this fact, so I hope I’ve explained my point here well enough to connect it to the question of allonormativity and allosexual privilege.
To bring that point all the way home, an allosexual gay cisgender non-disabled white man experiences homophobia, and that homophobia has been and can still be extremely deadly, and he is still absolutely oppressed for his sexual attraction to other men. I would never even begin to deny that. And, in the same way I described above, his experience of homophobic oppression will be inherently shaped by his privileged identities. This includes his being allosexual, and it also includes his being a man, and it also includes his being white, and so on. It’s not sufficient to point out that he doesn’t have to experience, for example, the compounded oppression of sexism and homophobia the way a lesbian woman does (this is true, but insufficient). The homophobia experienced by men is uniquely man-shaped. The homophobia experienced by cis men is uniquely cis-man-shaped. The homophobia experienced by allosexual cis men is uniquely allosexual-cis-men shaped. Ad infinitum. It doesn’t make it not homophobia.
But let’s go ahead and consider an asexual gay cisgender non-disabled white man, and we have now added another deviation from the “norm” to this experience. And where allonormativity will open him up to all the same evils of homophobia as the allosexual man (because allonormativity—and amatonormativity—is the basis upon which people will associate his being gay with his having gay sex regardless of whether or not that is even on the table for him, and for many homophobes, it remains that gay sex is the thing they object so passionately to), his asexuality complicates things further as he additionally experiences further and different marginalizing and oppressive forces due to his deviation from the normed experience (bonus points if he’s sex repulsed). And yeah, for him, as a gay asexual, this will look unique and likely very frequently take the form of lateral aggression (and I currently would suggest that it’s lateral aggression) in his own gay community. His experience of homophobia will be asexual shaped, and his experience of aphobia will be gay shaped; intersectionality, remember, is not Oppression + Oppression = 2 Oppression.
You see, the thing that makes theorizing and describing Allosexual privileges and allonormativity so complicated is the way heteronormativity is inherently implicated in allonormativity.
As a side note, I’m just a beginner (maybe moderate level at this point... but I hesitate to call myself that) to theory in the grand scheme of things; I still would say I have a lot to read and think about and deeply consider before I even begin to write theory on a formal level. I’m not saying I’m gonna be 100% on all points, and in fact being challenged on details will only help me move forward in carving out this idea further. Flat rejection or the notion of its existence based on specious or surface level recognitions of how things work, however, won’t. Main reason being: I’m asexual. I’ve been openly asexual for more than half of my life so far. I have listened to all kinds of asexual voices. We are seeing things and patterns in society and the makeup of power relations that allosexual people are, like any group that doesn’t experience a specific form of marginalization, unable to and disincentivized from seeing (I think immediately of Peggy McIntosh’s White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack for insight on this). My personal experiences as an asexual queer existing in allosexual queer and non-queer spaces aren’t going to be written off just because it’s unpleasant to become aware of a way in which you might have been unwittingly participating in oppression and marginalization. I won’t, frankly, allow for that to happen to me or to any of us.
So that being said, the fact that heteronormativity is inherently implicated in allonormativity (as well as, again, amatonormativity and cisnormativity), leads me to put forward the notion that it, too, negatively affects allosexual people, even where they might have allosexual privilege. Because there’s this weird thing that’s happening where, to the heterosexual “normals,” many allosexuals who aren’t heterosexual can at times experience what I’m willing to provisionally call “Aheterosexuality,”where the homophobic focus is less on their having gay sex/sexual attraction and more on their not having straight sex/sexual attraction (this is oversimplified, but I hope it suffices). It’s not super common (again for most homophobic people the issue is being gay and having gay attraction and having gay sex), but I’m not going to pretend it’s not a factor worth considering.
However, at the end of the day, it comes back to these being different parts of identity and experience and different experiences of oppression. The reality is that the allo gay man doesn’t have to deal with aphobia while the asexual gay man does—it can be put forward as simple as that. Or to think of it another way, a bisexual man has to deal with biphobia and homophobia, whereas a gay man does not have to contend with biphobia but does have to contend with homophobia, and in fact may perpetuate biphobia either intentionally or not—this concept is the most parallel one I can think of. No one would dare suggest the gay man doesn’t experience homophobia or has an insignificant risk of violence or anything just because he doesn’t experience bisexual oppression. And no one would suggest it of the allosexual gay man either.
Earnestly speaking, I hope this is helpful. Thanks for the ask.
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Honestly, no matter which political side you’re on, both brainwash you.
TLDR: I used to be on the left and now I’m on the right. Personal experience of shift in ideologies. Lefts = individualistic, focus on the now, sugarcoat the difficult truth. Rights = collectivist, focus on future, adopt cold truth of life, dismiss individual concerns. Looking for good left-leaning Tumblr/YouTube accounts to follow.
I used to be a hardcore liberal leftist, saying that all lives matter was a joke, hating the cops, preaching that trans women are women, critical race theory is real, etc. Back then I came set with this ideologies and only followed a few lib accounts on Instagram. I absolutely hated conservatives & gops, never listening to what they had to say.
Now, I’m not sure exactly where I align, but a liberal republican seems most fitting, saying that all lives do matter (except rapists, pedos, & murderers), liking cops, saying trans women are trans women, critical race theory perpetuates racial division, etc. Now I follow conservative/republican accounts across the board (Instagram, YouTube, Tumblr, etc.). After listening, I agree with conservatives & gop on several things, but not all. I listen to the left-leaning, but I don’t see the validity in most of their points anymore.
I got into a fight with a close family friend back when the BLM protests were ignited in 2020. I was mad at him claiming that he didn’t want to have an open mind, when in fact I was the one who had a closed mind. He told me that young people are all left-leaning and that he was like that too. He said that when you get older, you start to see things differently and see things from a right-leaning pov. I put my money where my mouth is and began watching and reading things that irritated the hell out of me. Over time, I started understanding their perspective and adopting the ideologies as my own, as they made more sense to me than left ideologies do.
Since I’ve been strongly on both sides, I can compare overall perspectives.
The liberals of the left are highly more individualistic in what kind of rights they ask for. They focus more so on the now and want people to live easy lives.
In my opinion, I also feel they sugarcoat the truth to make it more appealing and palatable, or they focus on the superficial matters of things. They also are more verbally aggressive to those of differing opinions.
The republicans are more collectivist in their rights, looking at the bigger picture. They focus more so on what actions/choices of today can impact those of tomorrow and want people to face life head-on, without dancing around the issues or making it easier.
In my opinion, I also feel they speak the hard truth of certain matters, even if it’s not what people want to hear. They are very dismissive and belittling to people with different views, due to their ability to see the bigger picture. They dance around individual concerns and have difficulty finding a way to get their way without hurting others in the process.
I look back and compare my former self to my current self and am shocked at how stark the comparison is. I do feel like my eyes are more open than before, but I don’t know what left-leaning media I’d want to look at. I want to tune into that kind of content, but honestly don’t know where to start. I don’t know of any good lib/left accounts (on any platform, but I prefer Tumblr & YouTube) to follow. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Anyways, I’m glad that I have opened my mind so much to accept opinions that were originally different than my own, but now I feel my mind is too crowded with right-leaning ideas. I’m firm on a lot of what I now believe in, but I’d still want to listen to people’s concerns and to those who are open for genuine discussion. I’m tired of people on either side who just belittle, who are belligerent, and just name call or dismiss others of differing opinions without even examining the true argument. Which, if you do those things I just mentioned, then you are just weakening your side of the argument since you reverting to fallacies or childish behavior.
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the fact that taylor performed cant feel my face on the 1989 tour during the height of her eating disorder is really painful because while that song is obviously about drug addiction it can also be interpreted to be about having an ED. idk maybe this is poorly worded or seems weird it just feels like she chose that song for a reason if that makes any sense
i've taken a break from studying to procrastinate on the internet but I haven't been able to stop thinking about this actually.
I went back and listened to her performance of the song and I find it really interesting that she switched the pronoun to "him." I find it interesting because there really was no need for her to do that. I know she was very closeted at the time but she also wasn't hiding the fact that she wanted to be out either.
She sang other songs like Cheerleader for example where she didn't bother to change the original lyric and I think the fact that she used "him" does make your theory that she chose the songs she covered on purpose during 1989 tour.
the reason I say this is because if you go to this page and just scroll until you reach the "1" time played part, you see the song titles of every artist she invited on tour and I think the songs she chose to play were very gay and sad but this one specifically... yeah I think this one was intentionally done because of her ED.
I think she views her ED voice as masculine, which is very interesting to me. I don't really want to speculate too hard but remember when we were talking about style and blank space's cake scene and how this feels ED related? I think this is another thing that lends credibility to that theory because okay, you could take this down a literal route or down a very metaphorical route about how she was brainwashed by the patriarchy into wanting a prince charming to the point where she would kill herself to attain the superficial standards that society lays out for women, where she is masculinizing her ED voice.
I think Taylor has struggled a lot with her gender identity actually, but not in like the 'trans' way but more in like what does it mean to be a 'good' woman type of way. Like, white women have this standard of womanhood that is quite harmful to society and all the things that are praised in us lead to oppression for other groups, and especially other women. Not even in like the gender expectations of dress or make-up but just how you are as a white woman and what society tells you as a white woman is that in order to be good, you need to be liked.
sorry this is getting so off topic but i have a point promise. white women in society are taught to prioritize being liked above all else, and it is clear in the documentary, Taylor also felt this struggle. I also think that Taylor is autistic so like I feel like she knew this from a very young age. Go look at her unreleased lyrics (most of which are from 12-15 year old taylor) and you can see this desire to be seen as like desirable from early on. She constantly penned songs about yearning for a man who doesn't know any better than to chase a prettier pageant queen than you. I think as she grew older, she became aware of this warped worldview that she was forcefed through media and I think by 1989, she was highly aware of a lot more than we give her credit for as a fandom.
side bar: when people say taylor didn't write the 10mv lyrics before 2021, i have to laugh because a line that says fuck the patriarchy is actually exactly the type of line I would expect 2012 taylor to cut in order to seem more palatable as a songwriter. I think that's also why we see her fucking the patriarchy more in her lyrics now, because she truly doesn't care about seeming like a good girl anymore.
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white women are taught as a class that we need to be liked, ABOVE ALL ELSE. we must be peaceful wives who are practically perfect in every way but that never show any anger because anger is a "man" emotion. It's everywhere in white culture, but especially in the ways that white women interact with each other to enforce this standard. Being polite often means, for white women, sitting down and shutting up.
That's why in the miss americana documentary, she focuses a lot on her belief system of good vs bad and how it really enabled her to be the worst version of herself because in order to be good in this society, you have to be polite in the face of a lot of injustice. You cannot speak out because speaking out labels you a bitch and nobody wants to be a bitch.
I think by 1989, Taylor was kind of fed up with the cage she had built for herself but couldn't find a way out of that shit. You gotta keep in mind, once you hand over the amount of control BMR had over Taylor, it's IMPOSSIBLE to get it back. In a way, she had to be hit with 2016 in order for her to realize that it DOESN'T MATTER IF EVERYONE LIKES YOU because the people who matter will shoulder anything for you. I think she needed to realize that getting everyone to like was an impossible goal to set for herself in order for her to grow into the person she is today.
Like, I think she was very aware of social dynamics because songs like blank space really hides a lot of female rage under the comedic tones of the music video/song. Like, I don't think the fandom realizes just how angry taylor was/is with the media perception of her because she's so good at hiding her true emotions well.
I say all this to say that I'm almost positive taylor masculinizes her ED in her music because it's such a multifaceted metaphor for all the ways in which she internalized the most harmful parts of patriarchy growing up and how being in the public eye for almost 20 years and growing up in that eye as a woman really fucking almost killed her. I say all this to say that I'm pretty sure she meant it that way anon and I'm sad now.
Thanks for this.
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Sometimes I wish I didn’t exist
But then I would miss out on the good things
Like kissing my girlfriend
Laying in the grass on a nice day
Taking photos with friends
Game nights
Cat snuggles
Excited dog butt wiggles when they see you for the first time in a little bit (esp when they make that air snort noise they make)
Learning a second language and being horrendous at it but keeping on anyways
Forehead kisses when you’re napping on the couch
Driving with the windows down on county roads listening to good music (bonus points if she’s there but I love it either way)
People who let you pet their dog in public
Farmers markets
Seeing joyful people in public who you can tell just seem to have something that powers them in a way not many do but the secret is one not even they know (I swear this makes sense in my head)
Women or Enbies who call me love or baby
Babes also works too
Especially when it’s a service worker (maybe that’s a product of working in the service industry but there’s something comforting about it)
People who stand by their convictions
Those who love me, every part of me, even the parts I struggle with, even the parts the world struggles with
Pride
Gay couples who aren’t afraid of being out in public
Queer media
Queer joy
Sparkles
Dresses
But also trans tape
And dressing like a “boy”
The euphoria of a good haircut
People who understand my pronouns even when I don’t (maybe not understand but they accept that we are all figuring it out together)
Love
Seeing little love moments in public
Like a couple giggling over a joke or moment no one else will ever get to experience
Or that conspiratorial smile when they are joking around
Seeing older couples still in love
Moving around a kitchen with someone you care for when food things have always been weird and cooking used to be like punishment bc it typically involved yelling and holding back tears
Having someone who understands your weird brain things even when you can’t explain them well
Being about to joke about things you once thought was a death sentence (even if you’re still a little sensitive and too scared to actually go get tested bc that makes it real)
Having someone who cares about you enough to suggest therapy
And going to the dentist
And offers to help you understand your insurance when you’re clearly an avoidance type of person who just won’t deal with it if you don’t understand it
Funny rituals even if you get the words wrong most of the time
When she understands what store I’m talking about even though I’m hopeless with the name of it (it’s the Amazon one. I swear I can get us there without the good why would I need the name)
Easy cook meals for when your brain doesn’t want to or can’t work quite right
When she turns on music you like even though she doesn’t like it quite as much to prove to you she doesn’t hate it bc you don’t use the right wording and she wants you to know she doesn’t hate it. (No really she will tell you)
Singing folk songs with god awful country accents
Writings stupid lists to make me feel better
Seeing little girls who don’t understand the weight being put on them by the world yet, running, yelling and having fun
Wearing pink
And wearing blue
Watching as the world slowly accepts more and more queerness and androgyny and gender nonconformity
The fight people put up for minority rights
Like black rights
Queer rights
Disabled individuals rights
Indigenous peoples rights
Seeing people stand up for those who need it is something I once thought I wouldn’t
Good music (I’m a lyrics person myself hbu?)
Video essays
Documentaries (I would say only the good ones but I’m a sucker for the bad ones too)
You😉 (no really you are a good thing I look forward to, every person I meet is someone who has so much love and potential and life that I will never know and that is such a good thing even if a bit daunting occasionally)
And lastly, myself, being out, being myself, trying my best to not be scared and put myself in the box that was built for me by my family and the society I grew up in.
I think that’s the good thing I try to look forward to most. I try to care about most. The joy of living as myself. Not the person I thought for so long I had to be.
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jk-scrolling · 10 months
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So I have never come out and explicitly called myself a feminist before.
There was a pop feminism boom back during the Obama years where I remember women being urged to be brave and come out as feminist. I remmber feminist celebs before that, back in the 90s, being treated a bit disdainfully by the media at best. Like "she's so strident, give it a rest" or "oh, she wants attention for being a big activist" or like "look at the so-called 'feminist' showing her boobs in this trashy movie." By the late 2000s, I remember it being more of a thing to call yourself an equalist. I never called myself that either, because it seemed like a weenie watering down. I mean, what is equalism? What has it done?
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Lol.
I'd be glad to learn otherwise! I mean, the principles as I understand them sound great! But in school, I read about the suffragettes, women's lib. There was enough talk about a "third wave" that I knew there was one, and recognized the aesthetic and attitude, even if it hadn't made it into my school books yet. Feminism had accomplishments. It had formed the world I lived in. It had pushed back horizons for me and everyone else.
I was frankly too intimidated to call myself a feminist. If someone had asked (no one ever asked) I'd have called myself a feminist sympathizer or someone who owed feminists everything. But I was very aware I was just a dumb kid. No activist. I'd never read any feminist works at that point. I'd never done anything substantial for other girls and women. I wasn't even a charismatic member of my class: Those "this is what a feminist looks like" shirts? The response would have been "yeah, no shit" from antifeminists. No one liked me or thought I was smart or cool. If I championed an idea, I could see it becoming less attractive to my classmates in real time.
My point is that, if anything, I thought it would hurt feminism to publicly identify myself with it. And it's not like feminism needed me, anyway. I could see things getting incrementally but steadily better for women all the time.
That's not the case anymore. When Roe v Wade was overturned, I felt like I'd been shot. It was no longer up to me whether I had a baby, but anyone who could keep me pinned for a minute and a half. It's terrifying.
Now the loudest, if not the biggest, faction of feminism is trumpeting the idea that women need to be cosseted. Women need to be protected from making choices about their bodies, especially those that could "ruin" their beauty and fertility. Women's existence and women's strength is so gossamer-frail it's in danger of distintegrating entirely if there's even the suggestion there might be a penis around. Not even a man, but a penis.
And it's just sexism. It's the same sexism as ever. The "feminist" attack on self definition and bodily autonomy isn't a reaction to the conservative attack on self definition and bodily autonomy, although it's positioned itself as such. It's all the same shit and it all leads back to the place feminists fought so hard to get out of: "The home is the only safe place for women." "A woman needs a big strong authority to protect her body and make her choices for her." "A woman isn't whole until she has children." I lived through the height of the manosphere years only to have the movement that's supposed to be for people like me corrupted into this? It's fucking sickening. And that's not even the worst of it.
Women's - specifically white women's - extraordinary vulnerability has been historically incredibly useful to violent reactionary bigots. And we're serving it up to them. The predictable result: trans women brutalized and killed in our name. As immigrants have been. As people of color have been. As the outsider and underdog always is.
If you are reading this as a woman and are having the knee jerk reaction (as I have in the past) of "way to blame women for men's violence like always!" or "like women have the power to stop violent men from doing whatever the fuck they want" you have at the very least the power AND the responsibility to say "you will not do this in my name."
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lord-of-the-ducks · 2 years
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I wanna make a post talking about Jim because oh my fucking god I would actually die for them.
I’m gonna be honest, I was actually skeptical about OFMD at first because I assumed that Jim was just the stereotypical “woman crossdressing as a man” stereotype that seems to appear in every piece of pirate-related media I watch. Like “ah yes, this is a 100% cis woman disguised as a man purely for practical purposes, this says absolutely nothing about her gender identity” and that isn’t bad or anything, I’m not saying that anyone who cross dresses is automatically trans, just that I’ve seen this trope only through the most cis/heteronormative lens possible and it’s really exhausting after the hundredth time you’ve seen it, especially when there’s the weird “I’m a girlboss who’s just as good as the men” kind of messaging.
Seriously, I was so put off by the idea that I actually had to turn off my television when I saw Lucius see Jim swimming because I was ready for him to say things that were just going to upset me. I eventually did continue watching, but I really had to convince myself to give the show a chance. Lucius immediately being on board with keeping their secret and making the “not all beards are actual beards” comment gave me a bit of hope that I was going to be watching a show that had at least SOME canonically queer characters, but then the show implied that Oluwande was attracted to Jim and my immediate assumption was that once again, I was going to be dealing with some sort of weird Shakespearean “she’s disguised as a man but he’s attracted to her because she’s still female” thing. But thank fuck I kept watching.
The first indication that maybe I was watching a show that was going to actually address how this is an inherently queer trope was after Jim kissed Lucius and Lucius expressed attraction towards them. Because it’s already been established that Lucius doesn’t like women, since he said something about his mom thinking that he likes girls in episode 2, but he’s attracted to Jim, meaning that Jim isn’t necessarily a girl, or at least that Lucius doesn’t see them as one. And then I got to episode 4 and OH MY GOD THEY WENT ALL IN.
It’s a shame that Jim had to be outed, but I’m so happy with how the crew’s questions were written because it truly embodied the classic things that cis people ask any person they find out is trans. They aren’t word for word, but it’s the general attitude of “well meaning but incredibly strange/invasive/outright wrong” questions and comments that made me laugh so hard I had to gasp for air. They even had the “well, it’s basic science/biology that women have crystals in their bodies that attract demons”. Then Jim finally gets fed up and just tells them to continue calling them Jim and that they’re still the same person. Definitely not written with the trans experience in mind, nope.
Anyway, this is just so refreshing to me because not only is Jim actually played by a nonbinary actor (which I immediately looked up after episode 4) but they also aren’t exclusively defined by their gender identity or the suffering it’s caused. Like, they have a whole arc about killing one of Jackie’s husbands who killed their family and being wanted for that murder. They also might have a romantic plot with Oluwande, and both Jackie and Lucius expressed attraction towards them, showing that they can be someone desirable (granted, Jackie was probably just doing it to mess with them, but still). And when they do address the ramifications of being nonbinary in a time period where that isn’t understood, it isn’t in a way that makes me, a nonbinary person living in an unsafe situation, feel miserable and upset about how people like me are treated, I just get a chance to laugh at it. I’ll probably never have people asking if I’m a mermaid, but I do recognize the ignorance that those sort of questions come from, and the show makes fun of that ignorance, not Jim (Edit: I forgot to mention that Jim is actually allowed to get angry about the repetitive, ridiculous questions instead of just grinning and bearing it, and they aren’t framed as in the wrong for doing so) And then once all of that is out of the way, Jim just gets to… exist. As their authentic self. Talking about cutting people up for their fuckery. It’s lovely, I love them.
Anyway, sorry about the long post, I’m just so glad that a character that I previously assumed was going to be a looming reminder of how trans people are erased from a lot of narratives, including ones that can show a lot of diversity, ended up being some of the best representation I’ve ever seen. I pretty much immediately started following Vico Ortiz on social media and they’re also a delight, so check them out if you have the chance.
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olderthannetfic · 3 years
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TY for your post on m/m ships, as it really gave me perspective I didn’t know I needed. I assumed or thought that the criticism of women writing (“fetishizing”) m/m came from the queer community itself. The equivalent of a bunch of girls going to a gay bar for a bachelorette party. I didn’t see the exclusionist propaganda behind that train of thought until reading your post. Thanks.
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You are most welcome!
My experience has been that the vast, vast majority of cis gay men have no clue about m/m fanfic (which is produced overwhelmingly by women and even more overwhelmingly by AFABs, who contain a lot more than just women).
When cis gay dudes are told about it in a "girls write this stuff" kind of way, they usually respond that women deserve porn too, and isn't that nice. You do you, largely irrelevant person.
Cis gay men are the dominant force in queer media that's not self-published romance novels, indie games, and so on. While I'd never say they have a fair deal as compared to straight men, if you look at queer presses and film festival films such, it's the cis gay men who get the lion's share of the attention, content, and money. I think that's why some rando making even more niche queer content just doesn't bug them much. (On average. Obviously, no group is a monolith.)
To the extent that I've seen complaints, it's generally a few dudes whining in amazon reviews that some romance novel had men crying and not having enough casual sex. Real Men Don't Cry™ yadda yadda.
Only in places like tumblr do I see a ton of pushback from queer men... and it should surprise exactly no one that the queer men in question are often trans, very young, and are getting misgendered pretty badly in their offline lives.
I see the same kind of "I am the queerest one! Only I have a special license to ship!" behavior from nbs and bi women and gnc straight women and basically anyone else who's doing some combo of having a traumatized reaction to their offline life and pulling a Not Like The Other Girls Others. There's a dash of white knighting in the pattern and a dash of people not quite getting that they've found their people. They're not the only one anymore!
(I really cannot emphasize enough how much of this I think is a trauma response where people need to be The Only Valid Man or The Queerest or something because m/m fanfic is their thing that proves their often-contested identity, and they're still carving out a place for themselves in the world. Except then they end up trying to take that space away from others like themselves, and that's not cool.)
The older trans guys I know facepalm over this stuff and are like "Buddy, no."
I mean, there's variety in any demographic. Groups are not a monolith, yadda yadda. But fanfic "fetishizing" discourse does tend to track with being young and having your main queer community contact be online and/or with having a strong strain of radfem in your ideas about queerness and art.
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People liken fandom (and BL/danmei pro media) to the bachelorette party thing--through cluelessness or disingenuousness--but the more relevant comparison is probably drag queens.
I really liked David Halperin's academic doorstop How to be Gay where he talks about queens "appropriating" from women (he uses the term more neutrally than we usually do) and how drag can be empowering and meaningful to gay men in its intended context yet still feel sexist, offensive, and alienating to a woman stumbling across it.
He spends a lot of time talking about literal representation vs. art that speaks to your insides instead of your outsides and why a lot of cis gay men still love things like The Golden Girls and various female icons or camp and allegorical media more than art that depicts men like themselves. Interesting stuff.
For free and online stuff, an oft-cited example is this dude, Jamie Fessenden's blog post about women writing "m/m romance" (i.e. indie selfpub romance novels like you see on Amazon, which are the US and a lot of the West's answer to BL/danmei). It's interesting to see this guy's perspective as an older cis gay man. (Well, I assume. Plenty of authors turn out to be liars, but he passes a sniff test, IMO.) I have a couple of points where I disagree with him, but I think he has some solid ideas overall, and he's putting his desire for more media of type X into practice by making said media himself.
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Anyway, I do think the criticism often comes from "our own community" (with its many, many meanings). It's just laced with lack of historical perspective at best and ulterior motives at worst.
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Gonna Fix It
requested by this anon: “hi!! could you maybe do something angsty and fluffy with Fundy (or anyone really) where the reader is a trans guy? he/him”  
Fundy x transmale!reader
trigger warnings: transphobes, homophobes, some swearing (I used the words tranny and fag) {I am both gay and technically trans please don’t come for me}
premise: When your dead name is leaked, along with photos of you pre transition the entire internet is quick to judge hypercritically, but your boyfriend is quick to take care of it
(y/n/n)- your nickname
(f/l/y/n)- first letter of your name
(y/d/n)- your deadname
“blep” talking
‘blep’ texting/messaging
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“(y/n/n)!”
“Yes Tommy?” You asked.
“How’d you feel about selling drugs?” 
You snorted, glancing up at your face cam and the messages in chat before turning your character to face Tommy’s, laughing, “What?” 
“Do you want to sell drugs with me and Wilbur?” He repeated. 
You blinked, moving your character to look at the van and then back at him, “Tommy, I would love to sell drugs out of a van with you.” 
“Yes! We have secured another one lets go! Pogchamp!” 
You chuckled as Wilbur joined vc, following Tommy’s character over to the van as he announced, “Gentleman! We have a problem, we need to find a better cover for our operations.” 
You looked around the inside of the van, filled with brewing stands and furnaces, “A hot dog van.” 
“Pfff- a hot dog van?” Tommy laughed. 
“It would be a decent cover.” Wilbur admitted, “We should do it.” 
Almost reluctantly Tommy nodded, and Wilbur moved on, “Next on the order of business, we need new recruits beside just (y/n).” 
You grinned, “I know just who to ask!” 
You started to leave vc when Tommy warned, “No Americans and no women.” 
“You got it.” 
You left vc, talking to your twitch chat as you messed around in discord, “Weird lot, them boys. Anyway- apparently I’m a drug dealer in Minecraft now! And I’m gonna recruit someone else!” 
After a few messages through discord your boyfriend called you, “Hello?” 
Upon hearing Floris’ voice chat started spamming about you being a simp.
“Yeah so Tommy and Wilbur kinda roped me into selling drugs on the smp and they told me to get more people, so I’m calling you.” You explained. 
“Angel why didn’t you just come ask me? Was the call necessary?” 
You rolled your eyes, “Shut up chat I’m not blushing! It was easier than getting up. Are you in or not?” 
“Yeah sure.” 
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Child: ‘(y/n) big man’
Child: ‘big (f/l/y/n)’ 
(y/n): ‘what do you want Tommy’
Child: ‘get on the server we’re making plans for our country’ 
You sighed, quickly moving to boot up Minecraft, starting stream along with it and quickly giving an intro before logging on to the smp and joining vc. 
“Ayyy! Big man!” Tommy yelled. 
“Tommy!” You responded, though significantly less enthusiastically. 
“(y/n) come to the hto dog van we’re making important decisions.” Wilbur said. 
“Okay.” You headed down the prime path toward the van, listening to the others chatter. 
“Okay so we need a name for our country,” Wilbur said as you arrived, “Something that fits. I am open to suggestions.” 
“Pog something.” Tommy offered.
“ehhhhh.” 
“Pogtopia!” He exclaimed. 
You punched his character, “That’s so stupid.” 
“Well- hmm, we’re all men here soooooooo Manburg!” WIlbur mused. 
“It needs to be more European.” Eret said, tossing you some of the block to start helping with the walls. 
“L’manburg.” You offered. 
Wilbur and Tommy burst out laughing, “Perfect!” 
“No Americans and no women! Just the way I like it!” Tommy yelled. 
Everyone began to laugh at that, and you grinned, entirely unaware of the chaos beginning to unfold all over twitter, and even in your twitch chat.
~~ Later that night you ended up flopped across the couch, Floris sending you a text from his office, ‘Don’t forget to take off the tibby prison angel’ ‘I’ll be done with this soon and we can cuddle’ 
You chuckled, dragging yourself up off the couch and shuffling off to the bathroom to change out of your binder, and pull on a different hoodie, a bigger one that you had stolen from Floris.
By the time you were done and had come back out into the living room Floris had also emerged from his office, and was staring in horror at his phone. 
“What’s wrong?” You asked. 
“You haven’t been on Twitter lately have you?” 
Immediately you were going for your phone, taking it off silence to be bombarded by notifications, “uhhhh.” 
Floris bit his lip, “I think you should read it for yourself.” 
Quietly you opened twitter, checking first the hashtag that appeared at the top of your mentions ‘#y/nisalie’ 
Your breath hitched as you opened the hashtag, immediately seeing the original tweet, ‘#y/nisalie y/n has been lying to all of us a thread: apparently this tranny didn’t have the guts to put out that “he” was lying’ 
You scrolled through the tweets, ‘Man, I can’t believe (y/d/n) thought (y/n) was a good fake name’, ‘well at least we know Fundy isn’t actually a fag’ and then worst of all, ‘Guys I found what (y/d/n) actually looks like!’ followed by a picture of you, pre transition. 
The world felt like it was caving in as you slowly sank down against the wall, tears starting to flow, “How did this happen?” 
Floris was quick to sit down next to your, pulling you into his arms, “I dunno angel.” 
You turned, sobbing into his shoulder, “Why are they like this? Wha- what am I gonna do?” 
“I’m gonna fix this,” He murmured, “I promise.” 
You curled further into his embrace, tears soaking his shirt as he rubbed circles into your back.
“It’s gonna be okay angel, it’s gonna be okay.” 
~~ You avoided the internet at all costs for the next few days, not streaming, not being active on twitter or any other socials, hardly ever leaving Floris’ embrace for more than a few minutes as more and more notifications filled your phone. 
It took a lot of coaxing from your boyfriend to check your twitter notifications after two days, and when you did you were delighted to see dozens of positive messages from real fans, and messages addressing the situation from all of your friends.
Eret: ‘dudes (y/n) is litterally trans, is you can’t deal with that then get out of this community; it’s seriously not okay to disrespect someone like that.’
Wilbur: ‘guys remember when I said trans rights and trans rights until I’m dead? Well that applies to (y/n) as well so piss off and stop bothering them’
Tommy: ‘listen up, serious tweet for once: you guys really need to learn how to recover someone and there pronouns, stop calling big man (y/n) by his dead name or get off the platform’
Along with countless others, and of course one from Floris as well, who had made a thread as soon as he saw what was going on:
‘Guys, listen. My boyfriend is the most wonderful human being in all the world. Whoever leaked his dead name or went looking for pictures of him before his transition is honestly a monster and I hope you realize the weight of your actions. Apparently we as a community have a few things to go over,
1: respect creators boundaries, if (y/n) didn’t want to tell you he wasn’t born male it’s not your business, 2: respect people’s pronouns, if someone tells you to use he/him they probably know if there right or not, 3: you can’t fucking invalidate someone like that, and put them on display as a fucking hashtag.
4: if anyone ever tries to talk about my boyfriend like this, (using the wrong pronouns, misgendering, using his dead name or in any other way invalidateing him) I will personally make sure you are never allowed on social media again’
You looked up from your phone, “Y- you got them to stop?”
Floris smiled, “I told you I was gonna fix it.”
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