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rjalker · 9 months

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[ID: White impact font against a black background that reads in all caps, "If minorities criticizing fandom bigotry ruins your fun more than the bigotry itself, you're a bigot, and you should feel bad!". End ID.]

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describe-things · 19 days

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new meme format.

[ID: A chart labeled, "Fragility scale", with three colums down the side. The first is labeled "Fragile" in yellow, and reads, "Glass". Next is "Very Fragile" in orange, for "The tail of a Batavian tear". Last is "The most fragile thing in the world" in red, for "Fandom when you criticize racism, misogyny, ableism, and other bigotry in media.". End ID.]

Download the HD template from the internet archive here. The image description should be copied and pasted whenever you use the meme, just edit whichever parts you're changing. No credit is necessary as long as you make your post accessible.

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thenixkat · 1 month

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[ID: A screenshot of a tumblr reply by @worshipneji1 reading:

Probably because they are all elves lol What did you expect? Fat elf is an absurd,they are always thin in mythology /End ID]

Stay classy with the fatphobia Dungeon Meshi fandom.

But also worshipneji1 is a great example of how having a fat fetish doesn't cancel out being a fatphobic fuckwit.

#nix meows #dungeon meshi #dunmeshi criticism #fandom bigotry #fandom fatphobia #fandom fuckery

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murderbotwritingprompts · 2 months

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Yes, yes, you love Murderbot. You think Murderbot is so funny and relatable. You'd die for Murderbot. We know.

But do you actually use Murderbot's it/its pronouns? Do you actually respect the fact that it's an everything-repulsed aroace and is solitaremit touch-averse, and the fact that it represents real people who are these things?

Or do you just "love" the "relatable" version of Murderbot that exists in your head, where you've cut out and replaced everything that makes it who it is as a character with things you can personally relate to, even though the whole theme of the series is that you need to respect people even when you can't relate to them?

Do you think "representation matters" only when you're the one being represented?

Do you think it magically becomes okay to erase canon Queer identities and disabilities as long as you're not the one being represented?

Do you actually love the character of Murderbot, who is explicitly everything-repulsed aroace, nonbinary and uses it/its pronouns exclusively, and is soltaremit touch-averse?

Or do you just love the OC you've slapped its name onto that exists in your head?

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werewolf-cuddles · 2 years

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I'm very aware of racism in fandom and especially in shipping, but I am really tired of "if you ship this and not that you're a racist."

Especially since every time Hispanic, black , East Asian, South Asian, basically any of us not white fans bring up the racism, we're told to shut up and harassed.

Or told to "return our [Insert Ethnicity/race] card because we're obviously traitors" or accused of really being white.

Anybody else remember when certain Star Wars fans would call black Reylo shippers "coons" for shipping Rey with Kylo instead of Finn? Because I fucking remember. I saw that shit happen constantly for like 2 years after The Last Jedi came out.

#fandumb #ship drama #fanpol drama #fandom bigotry #the star wars fandom sucks

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jyndor · 1 year

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btw b/c fans who are lovely and not harassing wlw? i’d love to hear from them though i’m sure as HELL not gonna post in their tags or whatever lmfao. it would be nice to know that not all slash shippers are fetishizing cishet women with so much internalized misogyny that they can’t stand the thought of women existing in ships at all. your ship is lovely and i have read some awesome fanfic and seen amazing fanart of them. and i’m sure there have been nasty bigoted rc shippers because i’ve called some out myself.

i will say i don’t think yall own that weirdo anon asjisdkjls and i definitely don’t want people thinking the ship is like only for the cishets ashlsdfjdsoj but maybe the cishet people in that fandom should try to ensure that if their fellow shippers aren’t harassing queer people like this, they are called out for it? be good allies and set standards for your fandom.

i’d be so embarrassed if someone was harassing people who i claim to care about so much for a fucking ship. and i am embarrassed and angry about it every time it happens because rebelcaptain shippers aren’t fucking above that garbage.

also rc shippers or just idk fans who are queer? i’d recommend turning off anon if these anons hurt you because yeah i’m sure im not the only one getting this noise.

#fandom drama #fandom bigotry #fandom queerphobia

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panther-os · 1 year

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how to be exclusionary, a guide by a star wars fandom server:

get mad at systems for asking for an accessibility aid (pluralkit)

get mad at jewish people and bipoc for discussing their lives (because every aspect of those lives includes encounters with some form of racism/antisemitism which is a "heavy topic")

get mad at autistic people for asking for clarification (on rules that are inconsistently specific or nonspecific)

encourage fetishism of non-white characters (required intro question: "why do you love clones?" [aggressively likes every single fetishizing answer])

this isn't a vague post or a call out post, it's a safety issue. the event in question is @clonebang , don't go harassing them, just block and move on. i've already kicked myself out of the event/left the server and done the same.

#/incoherent noises/#star wars #fandom racism #fandom bigotry #fandom ableism #ableism #bigotry #racism #I'm not even mad I'm just tired #can i have just five minutes without having to deal with this kind of shit?#please?#clone troopers #star wars the clone wars

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mirrorofliterature · 2 years

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fandoms are so incredibly volatile

I am tired just from looking at old coco fandom drama; and asides from normal petty drama, there was also a few incidents of blatant bigotry and absolutely abhorrent treatment of mexican coco fans, which is not cool (but unsurprising).

#rambles #fandom drama #fandom bigotry #I think those two things are separate concepts #fandom drama: petty shit about the characters #fandom bigotry: racism/homophobia/ableism etc #they're not mutually exclusive #anyway can we all agree: racism = bad #homophobia = also bad #reminds me of this minute of AreTheyGay's video where he just blatantly states that and #gosh I love that video so much #it was so cathartic and felt so REAL and accurate #when people try to drag me into fandom drama and I'm like: actually I have a life can you not?

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hiimcanadia · 2 months

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There's a lot of posts out there reminding people that they don't have to respond to every stupid post they see but I feel like it's worth saying that you also don't have to finish reading the post once you've realized it's stupid. Easily one of my favorite things about the internet is the ability to get like two sentences into a post and go "actually I think you're wrong" and then just stop reading.

#'stupid post' in this context is being used to refer to everything from blatant bigotry to fandom opinions you mildly disagree with btw #like I've stopped even bothering to read stuff written by transphobes/ exclusionists/ etc bc it doesn't add anything of value to my life #but also I saw a post earlier where someone's opinion on a fictional character was different than mine and just went #'actually idc what this stranger thinks' and stopped reading lmao #2pm in the morning

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rjalker · 18 days

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The Fallout TV show puts people of color in the most supreme positions of power within the evil corporation in both past and present as though racism didn't exist in pre-war society, as though the United States didn't cannonically have internment camps for Asian Americans before the Great War -.-

Because, you know, the original series is supposed to be about criticizing systemic bigotry and the forces that uphold it? But now we're pretending Pre-War society was completely colorblind and didn't discriminate based on race at all.

Because the white writers think having a Black woman be the one who literally decides to end the world for profit is a good idea. And thinks having another Black woman be the Scary Infiltrator inside the Vault is a good idea. While portraying a white man who wants to keep all outsiders out and execute prisoners as the good guy, while the "bumbling, ridiculous" people of color suggest welcoming the raiders into society and treating them like people with the potential to be good if only their circumstances change to allow them that option.

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avoidcrow · 2 years

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I need people to understand that JK Rowling sucks because she is a TERF and not because she wrote a book you didn't like

The books themselves are not the point and you all need to get over that part because debating the quality of Harry Potter muddies the water

She is doing harm right now and you're wasting everyone's time arguing about whether the books were 'actually bad the whole time, you plebs just had bad taste' or 'actually great and everyone has to appreciate these parts' or whatever

#to clarify this is not about using quotes from the book to show her bigotry #this is about people who enter trans conversations to say stuff like 'the books always sucked anyway'#please grow up this is not a fandom war thing #mine

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samaspic31 · 1 year

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"Fandom is just for fun/escapism" means there's no quality threshold to meet to be allowed to contribute, and it is generally a space to share a common love for something rather than spend time hating.

It does NOT mean "everyone gets to publicly say, write and draw absolutely anything and be free from criticism, nothing can possibly have ties to real life harmful ideas and reinforce them, nothing should be taken seriously, everyone turns their brain off and analyzing fan content is pointless", especially since that attitude will automatically allow bigoted content to flourish and will push marginalized people out of fan spaces, or at the very least make those spaces hostile and put them in a position where they have to argue with the bigots empowered by that attitude. If it’s escapism, then make it an escapism that’s accessible to most people, which means being mindful of the consequences of the content put out, or else you’re just creating more spaces minorities are excluded from

#havvingg been in the sw fandomone of the biggest ways bigotry snakes in fanworks #is by people closing their eyes annd pretending it's not important to think critically #Sam speaks #*having * fandom one #fandom is for everyone #this goes for #fandom racism #fandom misogyny #and homophobia #like you can have fun without turning brainless #doing gender roles 2.0 on gay men isn’t progressive sorryyyyyy

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enchanted-day-dreams · 2 months

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I find it ironic that people love to talk about Billy Hargrove having internalized homophobia despite the fact that homophobic Billy is only a fanon trait, meanwhile Steve Harrington used queer as an insult against Jonathan Byers and yet folks wanna act like he's the most ally to ever ally (or even pretend he was never homophobic to begin with) just because he wasn't still a dick to Robin when she came out to him.

Y'all can have whatever headcanons you want, but the canon truth is that between Billy and Steve, only one of them got a homophobic insult slung at them but never slung it back, and it wasn't Steve.

#fandom wank #billy hargrove #steve harrington #homophobia mention #reminds me of the time that i read a review of 'rebel robin' by a billy anti that wanted him to be homophobic to robin #despite him not even being *in* hawkins yet #like first of all why do you *want* a character you like to experience bigotry?#it's one thing to prepare yourself for it but to be *disappointed* it didn't happen is kinda fucked up imo #some folks just want more reasons to feel justified in hating a character instead of just being like 'i don't vibe with them'

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the-heartlines · 13 days

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fyi it isn't considered fandom drama when fellow creators are being treated with disgusting racism, xenophobia, misogyny, or being told to kill themselves, or bullying anonymously.

boiling it down to just 'fandom drama' makes this kind of shit less serious than it is and it is INEXCUSABLE, unforgivable! especially in regards to racism/wishing death threats. you are not welcome nor allowed back into fandom afterwards and deserve to be shunned and shamed hence forth for your despicable behavior. do not let these loser bitches worm their way back into this fandom. you had a platform built upon gross behavior towards fellow creatives/peers that thought of you as friends, while you were secretly and vehemently treating them horribly, and you deserve to see everything you achieved crumbling before your very eyes. (and those in the dms at the time are just as complicit for not coming forward when they saw the disgusting behavior at hand. i don't care who the fuck you are, it's not okay!!!)

i'll just say, we need to stop putting creatives on a fucking platform or pedestal because we are all equal here and no one is better than anyone. also, we need to build these people up who were these gross bullies victims and support those, especially the BIPOC affected by this nasty bigotry behavior.

#big fuck you to racists 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻#you deserve to eat shit all of YOU #house of the dragon #hotd fandom #racism #bigotry #xenopobia

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agrebel18 · 1 year

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“we need more m/f friendships in media that stay platonic due to heteronormativity that’s rooted in homophobia/aphobia plus women and men can actually be good friends without romance” and “having m/f romances aren’t inherently bad especially if the people involved are fat, disabled, neurodivergent, and/or people of color because queer people aren’t the only marginalized group that need to be represented” are two statements that can and should coexist.

#I'm a queer Latina so don't come at me with bigoted BS #but yeah it BAFFLES me when I see white gays acting as if the only good romance involves mlm or wlw #plus not all wlw or mlm pairing are good! and not all m/f pairings are bad!#and vice versa!#plus some hate for m/f pairings IS ROOTED IN BIPHOBIA AND RACISM AND FATPHOBIA OR EVEN ABLEISM #PLUS M/F PAIRINGS THAT HAVE OTHER MINORITES INVOLVED AREN'T THE ONLY ONES HATED ON!#I've seen wlw and mlm pairings that involve poc or disabled people or fat people be looked down upon as well #so shut tf up with your racism and other bigotries!#btw this isn't aimed at any specific fandom because I think every fandom can get this toxic #and no you don't have to like every pairing that involve minorites regardless of the character's genders but just don't be a bigot about it #fandom salt #queerphobia #fandom racism #ableism #fatphobia

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rhaenin-time · 2 months

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As much as I believe that questioning the parentage of a married woman's chiIdren feels like a witchhunt, I do think it's time we start an honest discussion about the Dance of the Dragons and the legitimacy of the contenders.

Because too often we forget that Alicent's bastards are just as ineligible for the throne as Rhaenyra's bastards.

By Andal convention, only Aegon the Younger and Viserys are eligible for inheritance. Even if Alicent's bastards wanted to push their claim through Daemon, their true father, they could never inherit over his trueborn sons.

In fact, her children are less eligible. At least Jace's claim comes through his mother! At least least Luke was promised to Rhaena and has Velaryon blood regardless. But Alicent, trying to put the bastards of a man who was disinherited on the throne ahead of the King's trueborn daughter? She's fortunate that Viserys was conflict averse enough to show let it pass and quietly keep Rhaenyra, his only trueborn child, as his heir.

Keep in mind that the question of Rhaenyra's sons' parentage was strongly dismissed by Septon Eustace. But at no point does any reliable source argue that the rumours regarding Alicent and Daemon are fabrication. Instead, we have only the far weaker defense that they're "unsupported."

Now, I think we can all agree that the most plausible explanation is that, once Alicent worried she might be pregnant by Daemon, she immediately seduced Viserys to cover the matter. Whether this happened before or after Aemma's death, and whether she turned out to be truly with child, is a matter of debate.

But even on the small chance Alicent did manage to bear a child of Viserys's blood, she should have known better than to put herself in situations where the question could even arise. And Daemon did not help matters with his public display of jealousy.

Because once the truth is out there, there is no way to "prove" that Alicent's children are not Daemon's bastards.

Not only do her children resemble him, but Daemon is a dragonrider. Which means geography is not an obstacle. All it takes is a few moonlight rides, and a quick trip through the secret tunnels, and you have another bastard sired with no one the wiser. And indeed, he did seem committed to secrecy, even taking precautions like distancing himself from Alicent and his bastards in every public setting.

The question of motive does remain. Was Daemon siring bastards out of true affection for Alicent? Or was it simply a mutually beneficial arrangement because they were both wed to spouses who could not give them heirs? Alicent feared being set aside, and Daemon feared dying without a legacy. And it is noteworthy that Alicent stopped bearing his bastards after he became free to wed Laena Velaryon.

Another interesting area of debate is, of course, Viserys's knowledge on the matter. Some might argue that he affected a willful blindness. But surely he would be understanding of Alicent's predicament if it was he who was no longer able to produce heirs. Indeed, the text does support the theory that he was aware.

Now, it's pretty clear that while Alicent was comfortable throwing stones from her glass house of bastards, Rhaenyra was not. Be it from feeling above the matter, respect for her father's wishes, or simply a lack of desire to see Daemon's bastards publicly shamed, she seems to have held her own tongue even when faced with Alicent's hypocrisy. Which I find admirable, if maybe a little unhelpful.

I suppose we can give Alicent a little credit. She did originally acknowledge her good fortune of her bastards all bearing a vague resemblance to Viserys. And it seems she even encouraged Rhaenyra and Laenor to hold onto hope that they might one day share that fortune. As long as they keep trying the way she did.

Or was it in fact, a brazen taunt? A flaunting of her privilege of having bastards that resembled their supposed father?

Regardless of the sentiment behind the comment, it does open up questions regarding whether she'd previously "tried" and "failed" only to end up with dark-haired babes she was forced to send away. After all, with Viserys in such poor health that surely his ability to sire heirs would be whispered about, it was essential they resemble him.

Another question worth pondering is Alicent's true feelings toward Daemon. Did she, perchance, ever entertain hopes of wedding him once Viserys had passed? Of him legitimizing her bastards for the Realm to hear?

But what would she gain? Well, potentially a lot.

What is not disputable is that once she'd given up hope of Viserys installing her bastard above his trueborn daughter, Alicent turned her hopes to usurping Rhaenyra based on her gender. But perhaps she worried that, should she cross that line, Rhaenyra would no longer turn the other cheek. She likely worried that Rhaenyra would point out the obvious fact that Alicent's bastards were ineligible for inheritance.

But Daemon wasn't.

Per the Council of 101, Daemon should have been heir over Rhaenyra. And it's not illogical to assume that Alicent might have nursed hopes of usurping Rhaenyra after Viserys's death (which she did do) and installing Daemon as King. A King whose wife had passed leaving him only daughters — therefore ineligible under the precedent they established. A King finally free to marry the mother of his bastards and name them bastards no more. To name them his heirs.

Unfortunately for Alicent, Daemon had moved on. And not only that, he appears to have set the example for Rhaegar by naming his son Aegon despite already having a son named Aegon! (History truly does repeat itelf!) A message to Alicent that he would never claim her bastards as his heirs.

Alicent might have thought she was clever in the moment — to select a man who resembled her husband. But it also works against her.

Because her children resemble Daemon. And not just in appearance.

Remember that, when Aenys proved to be a sickly boy despite being ostensibly sired by a man of Aegon's vigor, that was when his parentage was truly put to question?

But does the opposite not apply? Viserys was in poor health, yet Alicent's bastards did not seem to share those troubles.

Now, you can hardly fault Alicent for bearing healthy children. But that does not mean she couldn't have taken other steps to make her bastards' parentage less obvious. We can credit her with notably dressing them in green as children to avoid easy superficial comparisons, but it seems like her attention, or authority, on the matter lapsed as her bastards grew older.

Why was Aegon allowed to cavort in Fleabottom the way Daemon once had? Why was Aemond allowed to style his hair and clothes so that he resembled a young Prince Daemon? Alicent should have better stressed to them the importance of appearance — and masking appearance. Because she ended up letting her sons undo all her efforts.

Honestly, the more you think about it, the more undeniable it becomes. Undeniable because, I repeat, there is no way to prove otherwise.

Well, I think that's enough evidence for now. I honestly never thought it was worth dwelling on the matter. If Viserys knew, if he made arrangements to keep Alicent's bastards both safe and respected while preserving his line, it truly should not matter.

But the problem is that Alicent pushed too far. Not just by trying to seat her bastard on the throne — something that, unlike with Rhaenyra and Driftmark, she did not have the blessing of the Head of house for nor did she take steps to ensure the line remains intact — but by also then being brazen enough to point her finger at Rhaenyra, knowing Rhaenyra was above doing the same.

Well, I don't think that's fair. And I think it's time we acknowledged it, and put the 'bastard' talk to rest. Honestly, it often feels both disingenuous and steeped in misogyny. And in a world of fundamentally unjust systems, it's best to just accept that these matters should be kept quiet, and resolved within the family.

#hotd #hotd critical #asoiaf #team black #hotd sexism #rhaenyra targaryen #anti team green #asoiaf fandom #anti alicent hightower #asoiaf bigotry #fire and blood #asoiaf bastards #anti hypocrisy #Prince Aegon Waters #Princess Helaena Waters #Lord Aemond Waters #Alicent Mother of Waters

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