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owarinaki · 9 months

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Fullmetal Alchemist the Movie: Conqueror of Shamballa (2005) - Roy returns to the battle

#royai #roy x riza #roy mustang #anime recap #anime #fma 2003 #fma gifs #fma anime 2003 #riza hawkeye #fma #fullmetal alchemist the movie : the conquer of shamballa #fullmetal alchemist #gifs #fullmetal #hagaren

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royaibrainrot · 11 months

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The way I was about to blow a gasket watching the end of Conquerer of Shamballa before Al pops out of the suit. Like I did NOT just watch an entire movie for my boys to not be happy and together again

#thank god Al came with him though #even though this movie was wack it definitely did have a better ending than 03 #so I’m glad I watched it #Conquerer of shamballa #fma #fullmetal alchemist #edward elric #alphonse elric #also like… was Hughes a nazi on the other side of the gate or did I interpret that wrong #cause good god what the fuck

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adrift-in-thyme · 7 months

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Hi trin! So I got two questions for you:

1, I was rereading day 11 (my gosh it's one of my favorites agahshdjdjdhsba) and realized it hasent had a continuation yet? I get it if your busy so I'm not like demanding it or anything but like...is Legend ok?

2, for the past few weeks I've been seeing these posts on an anime called Fulliest Alchemy? (Sorry if I got that wrong) I am sorry to inform you that I have no idea what that is but I am incredibly interested. Could you tell me like, the theme or where I could watch it? Google ain't spoil-free

Hope you have a good day!

Hi!!

I’m so glad you like Day 11!!! It’s honestly one of my personal faves. I had a lot of fun writing it lol.

Don’t worry, you’ll find out what becomes of poor Legend ;) I’m planning to continue it on Day 30! (…Which is almost here and I can’t believe it 😅)

Oh yeah! So, the anime is called Fullmetal Alchemist and basically it’s about these two brothers who perform a forbidden act to try and bring their deceased mother back. It backfires, costing them both dearly, and the plot revolves around them trying to regain what they’ve lost. But during their quest many secrets come to light, challenging their resolve and giving them a bit more than they bargained for.

There are two versions of the anime. The earliest one from 2003 goes off on its own plot (which continued in the movie Conquerer of Shamballa) after a certain point because the manga wasn’t finished back then. Some fans liked the direction it went, others didn’t. I can’t give you my opinion cause I haven’t watched that one. The one I did watch (which was AWESOME) is Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. It more faithfully adapts the manga, including staying true to its ending.

You can watch Brotherhood on either Hulu (that’s where I watched it) or Crunchyroll (you’ll need to either sign up for a free trial or pay for a subscription to see the entire season). Other places could have it, but these are just the ones I know about. If you want to check out the 2003 show I’m honestly not sure what streaming services have that one.

Anyway, thanks for asking! I hope you have a good day too! <3

#sorry for the infodump about fma lol #I hope you enjoy it if you do watch it!#it’s very very good #I’m not even that big of an anime fan and I loved it #asks #trin answers

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velvetcake96 · 2 years

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I watch Conquer of Shamballa for the Plot. I promise I do...

No other reason... no other reason at all...

Nope... no reason but plot...

A nice plot about something... that is really good.

hhhh Nice plot, with some nice boy not gonna lie. I mean nice plot. Yep yep

#fma #fullmetal alchemist #fma 03 #fma cos #conquer of shamballa #edward elric #roy mustang #alphonse elric #i have a serious problem #I promise I do like the movie more than just Ed and Roy #I love me some pretty boys #as a lesbian I do declare these are some lovely men #SHOT THROUGH THE HEART AND YOUR TO BLAME YOU GIVE ME A BAD NAME!#*Backing Vocals* bad name

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jackielvlup · 4 years

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Okay but this is the start of my Fullmetal Alchemist spam within this next week lmao. It’s not a lot, but I do have like, 4-5???? Screenshot redraws left to post, I’ll probably post one a day just to have stuff. And then I have 3 acrylic charm idea things left to post lmao. But anyone. FMA anyone????

Follow me on Instagram because I am 100000% more active there lmao.

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2centsoframblings · 2 years

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Two cents of ramblings on: “Gekijōban Hagane no Renkinjutsushi – Fullmetal Alchemist: Shamballa o Yuku Mono”...

...and why I DON’T recommend it (unless you really, really want to learn how the characters will end).

GENERAL DATA

Title: Gekijōban Hagane no Renkinjutsushi – Fullmetal Alchemist: Shamballa o Yuku Mono (劇場版鋼の錬金術師シャンバラを征く者 “Movie Alchemist of steel: The conqueror of Shamballa”)

Media: Anime motion picture

Sequel of: “Hagane no renkinjutsushi – Fullmetal Alchemist” (鋼の錬金術師 “Alchemist of steel”) anime series dated (2003/2004).

Genre: Adventure, Dark fantasy, Steampunk

Directed by: Mizushima Seiji

Written by: Aikawa Shō

Studio: Bones

Original run: July 23, 2005

Running time: 105 minutes

WARNINGS: There is murder, war, body horror.

The plot in short: The Nazi, believing Edward’s world to be Shamballa, wants to conquer it so as to obtain new weapons. Edward ends up discovering this and having to stop them.

HOW DID I STUMBLE INTO IT

Well, after watching the series, how could I not watch the movie which supposedly ends it?

THINGS YOU MIGHT WHAT TO KNOW BEFORE TACKLING THIS

I’ll reference the series. Also this isn’t a ‘let’s sing praises of this movie’ sort of review, quite the contrary. If the idea of reading a review commenting on its mistakes and weak points bothers you just stop here.

Also some info:

Shamballa or Shambhala is a spiritual kingdom in Tibetan Buddhist tradition. With time Shamballa was identified as the abode of particularly evolved spiritual beings and therefore became a recurring theme of esotericism which also fed Nazi mysticism.

Thule is the farthest north location mentioned in ancient Greek and Roman literature and cartography however in classical and medieval literature, ultima Thule (Latin ‘farthermost Thule’) acquired a metaphorical meaning of any distant place located beyond the ‘borders of the known world’. In Germany, occultists believed in a historical Thule, or Hyperborea, as the ancient origin of the Aryan race so the Thule Society was founded.

Also you might not know it as they aren’t that well known in popular culture but Karl Ernst Haushofer, Rudolf Hess and Fritz Lang, which are characters who appear in the movie, were actually real people.

Longinus is the name given to the unnamed Roman soldier who pierced the side of Jesus with a lance.

Dietlinde Eckhart’s name might have been inspired by Dietrich Eckart who was the founder of the German Workers’ Party which was the predecessor to the Nazi party.

Dr. Mabuse is a character in Fritz Lang’s movie. He is a criminal mastermind, doctor of psychology, and master of disguise, armed with the powers of hypnosis and mind control, who oversees the counterfeiting and gambling rackets of the Berlin underworld

MY TWO CENTS ON IT

THE SHORT VERSION… or what I can tell you about this while trying to keep spoilers at the very bare minimum.

Opening & ending: The movie uses as opening “Link” by L'Arc-en-Ciel and, as ending “Lost Heaven” always by L'Arc-en-Ciel. For what regards the ending there are no accompanying images to it, there’s just a black screen on which credits rolls so I can tell you that the song is good but… that’s all there’s to say. The opening uses scenes from the anime and rather pretty art in a way that reminds me of otome game openings. It’s enjoyable and pretty but… nothing over the top.

The plot: The plot is the real sad note of this movie. It doesn’t really develop the characters, it focuses way too much on Nazi Germany and on side characters I didn’t really care about and that didn’t really get developed that much.

The characters: We see… too little of the characters I’ve come to love and the movie seems to think to make up for it presenting us alternate version of them who lives in Nazi Germany… only they don’t really get explored that much either so…

The visual: Okay, the visual is very good, the background is filled with details and beautifully drawn, the colours have an odd slightly brownish tinge as if I were to be watching an old movie which fit with the Nazi Germany atmosphere while scenes in Ed and Al’s world are in bright colours as to draw a contrast. The computer graphic is not so great although not ugly but this is 2005 and, anyway, it’s way better than what will use “Golden Kamuy” in 2018.

The BGM: Ōshima Michiru continues to do a good BGM, which, if you ask me, is well used.

Overall: The anime deserved a better ending movie. It definitely did. You might watch the movie to see again the characters you loved and because it’s aesthetically pretty but… I’m not sure it’ll satisfy you, plot wise.

THE LONG VERSION… or what I loved and hated about this with, of course, TONS OF SPOILERS.

When I talked about the anime, I mentioned how there were things that it didn’t explain and an ending it left open. So a movie was a great chance to deal with all those loose threads and expand the characters arcs so as to explain them and their motivation better… but no, this is not that sort of movie.

One of the characters the anime neglected for example, is Envy. Well, Envy is in the movie too, we’ve left him going to through the gate in search of Hohenheim in its dragon form and so he’s in Nazi Germany too. He appears in a castle as a dragon because apparently, even if alchemy doesn’t work there, homunculi’s powers work just fine, tries to kill Edward and is easily captured by the Nazi who, instead than kill or take captive Ed who had witnessed the scene, leave him there unconscious and take Envy away. Then they impale him with Longinus’ lances and Dietlinde Eckhart’s uses magic/alchemy on him so that they have him bite Hohenheim, which they had captured, so they can use him to open the gate that leads to Ed’s world and he’ll stay quiet because, hey, biting Hohenheim us totally worth being held captive and used by humans.

Basically Envy is reduced to a plot device.

Hohenheim let himself be bitten because he tried making a passagerway to the other side using the magic and science of this side, therefore cooperating with the Nazi and because he failed Envy, as he couldn’t resurrect him but turned him into a homunculus and then discharged him… and also he took over the life or plenty of people in order to go on living and WHY he should care at this point after 400 years spent pretending it was none of his business is of course left unexplained.

I mean, I get he somehow wanted to help Ed going back home because in the anime he mysteriously discovered, after dumping him and Al when they were small, that he loves them, but if this needed to get developed in the anime but I could still pass over it, here it becomes beyond weird.

So anyway, as he’s been bleeding out like hell by God knows how long yet not dying, he decides he’ll transmute into a gate Envy, you know, the son he has turned into a monster and discharges, something which he now rejects but not to the point he won’t use him to help the son he actually cared for, Edward and his idea of how to transmute him is to force him to bite him to… explosion apparently, as all of sudden he sprays all around a sea of blood by making him clench his jaw.

All this for Dietlinde Eckhart to shoot Edward a moment later but apparently she can’t aim so she actually only scratches Edward’s artificial arm, which… causes Edward to apparently faint and fall from an amazing height and not even get a scratch. So okay, as you might notice I also find the logic on which the movie is based beyond dumb.

I mean there are those huge plot contrivances like Edward seeing Lang, who looks like King Bradley for movie reasons because in real life they didn’t look alike, so Edward forgets there’s just people who looks alike the people of his world despite spending times regularly with a copy of Al, one of Gracia and one of Huges (and I’ll argue Noah might be a copy of Rose but with normally coloured hair) and tails him so that the latter ends up bringing him in the castle in which Envy is, so he’s around for… no real good reason when the Nazi capture Envy.

I mean, Ed decides to do something only when Noah goes with the guy of the Thule society, which she decides to do in front of him instead than leaving him without warning so that they’ll get a reaction from him… and Lang will coincidentally decide that’s a good moment to crash with his car inside the place Edward was in so he can help him escape with a car who doesn’t even have a scratch.

So for now we have no proper development of familiar characters, no logic in the plot, plot contrivances a gogo.

Adds way too much focus on the world Edward is in, which we should already be familiar about as it’s our own only in pre WW2 time so really, why should I care?

Why should I care of the story digging onto how Nazi Germany also wants to invade Amestris as if Nazi Germany attacking something or playing the role of the bad guy were some sort of new idea?

Okay, the movie wasn’t made for me so maybe Japanese viewers likes this but really, there has been already plenty of anime about this so… couldn’t we have a movie about something else? Something new, like the “Fullmetal Alchemist” universe was?

And I’m saying this as someone who loves historical series but I felt zero need to see 1923 Germany take over “Fullmetal Alchemist” because the way it was done it felt more like they were tossing at me real life characters and random real life info just for the sake of doing it.

I could already see the “Fullmetal Alchemist” parallels with my world, the racism, the wars of aggression in the world of Amestris, they really didn’t need to toss in Nazi Germany, especially because it breaks the parallels between Amestris and my world and paint Amestris like the good guys when it’s only four years they got rid of Führer King Bradley (and Dante), who really wasn’t called Führer at random, and Mustang wasn’t rewarded for getting rid of Bradley, quite the contrary, and what about all the people who supported King Bradley? Couldn’t we see how Amestris evolved after Bradley’s death instead?

But that’s not all of the ‘why should I care?’

The movie introduces a new character, Noah, a Roma girl, who’s sold by other Romani girls because she has the eerie ability to read the mind and is saved by Ed and seems to play as ‘romantic interest’ for him of some sort (but not really that much), and tries to push forward the theme of racism that was well depicted in the anime this time using her, which could be interesting if the anime hadn’t done it better. But the real role of Noah in the movie is solely to read Ed’s mind so that she can memorize all of Edward knowledge about alchemy and complete the transmutation circle.

I mean… that’s not clairvoyance, the idea she would learn all of Edward alchemic knowledge just by peaking at his mind or that she could memorize as much as the magic circle… at least I think she memorized the magic circle because otherwise I don’t know what use she had, she just told them there were no incantation and that they had to make circulate the power between themselves and the transmutation circle which means… what for those humans who know nothing of Edward’s alchemy?

But who cares, the gate reacts anyway but Noah can’t open it, maybe because she’s just stretching her hands toward it and doing nothing?

But whatever, what’s her point beyond that?

Express her longing for a place that won’t mistreat her due to her race? She learnt Edward’s knowledge, didn’t she saw what happened to the Ishbalans? Edward left without knowing if Mustang defeated Bradley, as far as he knows they might still be persecuting them, them who has darker skin like Noah, what makes her think she’ll be safe there?

And then we��ve Dietlinde Eckhart, which we can speculate is an alternate version of Dante but who actually knows, who has zero development and it’s just evil and first claims she wants to go to Shamballa to gain weapons then we get this:

Dietlinde: Why?! Why is my magic being obstructed?! This place is a new world, completely different from our world. Edward: It's not at all different. People live, weep, laugh, and die. There's one thing I'd like to ask you. Why did you suddenly attack? Weren't you going to use this world's know-how for your war over there? Dietlinde: I am going to destroy this world! Edward: For what reason?! Dietlinde: Because it is terrifying! Once I learned that a doorway could be opened with the power... ...of the Great Serpent, and that there was another world... ...when I learned that it had power that exceeded our own... I became frightened-- so frightened that I could not stand it. I knew that I had to destroy it! Edward: The people here would never start a war with you! Dietlinde: How can you know that?! Edward: We are humans, like you! Dietlinde: No, you aren't! You may take the same form, but you are monsters from another world!

I mean, this could really be an interesting point to ponder, the idea she waged war merely because scared by what’s different, and would tie nicely with the theme of racism… but it’s all so random!

She jumps from ‘why my magic is obstructed’ to ‘this world is completely different from ours’ with no real logic connection. Then it turns out she has also changed her goals or that was never her goal but since her character development was nonexistent this feels just random.

Edward claiming they would never go at war with her world is dumb considering that people has followed and supported King Bradley who has waged war effortlessly so it can’t all be blamed on Bradley being an homunculus, never mentioning he was lead by Dante, a human, so again this is dumb and Ed should know and the fact he says ‘ah, we’re human like you so we wouldn’t attack you’ actually doesn’t hold ground because humans attack each other both in Amestris and in Dietlinde’s world so really that doesn’t stand.

Besides why is she Dietlinde instead than Dietrich? The movie didn’t shy away from using real people, why turning Dietrich into a woman? Because Dietrich in real life died of heart attack short after the Munich Putsch and wasn’t turned into a monster during it and shoot? Why would the movie care? Is that why she only shoot in the arm Haushofer? Because the latter is not meant to die there? Why shooting him anyway? Why not knocking him out?

And we finish the movie with Ed and Al being stuck into our world so how cool, they’re together but again, they’re not back home and Winry is left in Amestris because Winry’s arc in this movie goes nowhere, she’s only here to provide Ed with a new arm and leg and that’s it.

Besides what about making Hughes a Nazi but not developing the thing at all and then pairing him back with Gracia, who’s actually a decent person instead, as if nothing had happened at the end of the movie? I mean the idea of making him evil could have been very interesting but it’s basically not explored and the same goes for a possible switching side… which we don’t really know if happened. Has he changed just because the Munich Putsch failed? Because he shot Dietlinde Eckhart after she turned into a monster? Who knows?

And there’s more but I’ll stop here.

So everything is bad?

No, actually the action scenes are really, really cool, a real pleasure to watch.

Then they tried ending Wrath and Gluttony arc. Gluttony arc works, Wrath’s arc would have benefitted of some parts that ultimately were cut from the movie because apparently a lot was cut from this movie to give it the length it has and not the 3 hours and more length the original script was meant to have… which means they basically cut half of the movie so maybe it’s not all the movie’s fault if it was so messed up. With so much cut, of course things didn’t properly get developed. But, back to Wrath, although his arc felt a bit shaky because they cut his reason to sacrifice for Alphonse, it wasn’t that bad.

I somehow loved Alfons Heiderich because it’s one of the few characters the movie managed to actually develop and he worked well enough. I love this exchange between him and Ed.

Alfons: Looks like she missed you and hit your artificial arm. “At a speed of over 11 kilos per second, this rocket will punch through whatever phenomena occurs within the doorway, and get us to the other side.” That was Haushofer-san's idea. This one-seater should also put out enough speed. Edward: Hold on! I never said I was going to the other side. Alfons: I want you to go. Edward: Alfons, am I in the way? Alfons: We don't just exist in the middle of one of your dreams. Even as my life is coming to an end, I'm still me. I will definitely be here. Don't forget me. Edward: Alfons! Alfons! Alfons!

And then Alfons dies, shot by Rudolf Hess, but he dies smiling because he has managed to make his rocket and use it to send Edward where he needed to go. And it’s a great moment. Alfons came a lot more likable than Noah, who yes, is mistreated so I feel bad for her, but she’s also solely caring for her own interests ignoring how Edward helped her. Alfons didn’t have to help Edward, he didn’t own him, but he did because he was a friend and a good person. I wish they had given Noah something more likable quality than just the sad part of the discriminate girl (and, as I already said, I found her wish to go to Amestris to escape discrimination, baseless as there was discrimination in Amestris).

I loved the dialogue at the end between Ed and Al…

Alphonse: Another great war is sure to start. That could be something that's unavoidable, huh? I wonder if it's something we should be getting involved with. Edward: We can no longer go on thinking that this world has nothing to do with ourselves. This is our world. There's no difference. This is where we live.

I mean, I like the conclusion they can’t feel uninvolved that they now belong to that world… even if I don’t like how it seems to imply they gave up on their own world and… I’m not sure how they mean to get involved in WW2. I mean, they can’t use alchemy, they’ll be just soldiers like everyone else. And even if they weren’t to be soldiers, if they were just to walk around, they would still be involved in the war because it’s a WW what’s about to happen with invasions and bombing and everything so really, they can’t escape to it.

But whatever, still that bit was good and, as I said previously, the visual was also good. I don’t know why they put Rome’s Vittoriano in Amestris but hey, cool, beautifully drawn.

So, do I recommend this or not?

Honestly it’s not a great movie, but it’s also the only way to see the end of the arcs of some characters so you might want to watch it anyway. Just don’t expect much from it.

And now let's end this with an AMV about this series I recommend watching Your Hand in Mine

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#Fullmetal Alchemist #Hagane no Renkinjutsushi #Adventure #Dark Fantasy #Steampunk #Bones #Anime motion picture #Shounen #Not recommended #2005

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shipshapsnap · 7 years

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But can someone please explain to me why ed was wearing that fuckin old diver helmet thing in the beginning of COS because like what the fukc

#I love it #and that scene #but like #why #cos #conquer of shamballa #fma conquer of shamballa #fma #fmab #fullmetal alchemist manga #fullmetal alchemist #fullmetal alchemsit brotherhood #edward elric #03 fma #fma movie #alphonse elric #roy mustang #riza hawkeye #winry rockbell

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calangkoh · 3 years

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opinions on conquerer of shamballa? (besides the entirely correct opinion that alphonse is Very Cute)

i had a dream about this movie last night.

i think its a weird movie. in that i dont know what to really think about it. a lot of the ideas in it are weird, feel weird for fullmetal alchemist, and feel weird to me. but its visually beautiful and all the characters look the best theyve ever been. there are some really interesting concepts along with the weird ones that i want to explore, and i like where they took the characters (just conceptually it was all very interesting to me—ed depressed in a world like ours, al with no memory obsessed with getting his brother back, winry parting with the elric brothers but able to move on, roy also depressed by how things turned out but by the end ready to get back into things and i assume go back to trying to change the country, and i love the doors the ending opens up with ed, al, and noa travelling together).

but overall the movie is a mess. an enjoyable mess, but a mess. theres a lot of potential with all the individual concepts but they didnt have the time to fulfill it all. they had to condense a LOT and it shows.

i cant say its a good or bad movie. its just a weird one. it exists in its own little bubble, is really what im getting at. where the mood i have while watching it is “this might as well happen this is already so goddamn weird” but im not necessarily complaining. because weird is rarely a insult to me. i love a good dose of weird in media (and in people). but in this case my definition of weird is something like “i dont know what to think or feel about what is happening. it sure is something though. i definitely like this wild experience im having.”

some people LOVE this movie and some people HATE this movie. i see both sides and rest firmly in the middle. what i appreciate the movie for is the interesting ideas, the characters, and how it ended and gave closure to the series (but its also closure i didnt necessarily need). what i dont appreciate it for is how strange it could feel. i love the real world twist of fma and i personally always felt it made too much sense (both thematically, and because to me a natural question WAS “wait a gate/portal implies theres something on the other side” and in 03 that is a more valid question than in mangahood where its portrayed differently), and putting ed in the real world is super intriguing idea for his character, but that doesnt mean i want to see anime hitler. i think just keeping big historical events as implications like they did at the end of the series was enough.

#ask

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ao3feed-royai · 4 years

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Another World

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2XwcgOl

by SilverKnightKaden

Takes place a few years after Brotherhood ends, but uses a concept similar to the FMA movie Conquer of Shamballa. You, a young woman living in the 21st century, have just bought a new house - the first place you've ever lived on your own! All the money had been accounted for, but the price you will truly pay is much steeper.

Proof read by my best friend Kook!

Words: 1980, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood & Manga, Fullmetal Alchemist - All Media Types, Fullmetal Alchemist (Anime 2003), Fullmetal Alchemist Conqueror of Shamballa

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: F/M

Characters: Reader, Alphonse Elric, Edward Elric, Van Hohenheim, Jean Havoc, Roy Mustang, Riza Hawkeye, Winry Rockbell, Pinako Rockbell, Den (Fullmetal Alchemist), Olivier Mira Armstrong, Alex Louis Armstrong, Kain Fuery, Heymans Breda, Vato Falman, Miles (Fullmetal Alchemist), Maes Hughes, Original Characters

Relationships: Alphonse Elric/Reader, Edward Elric/Winry Rockbell, Riza Hawkeye/Roy Mustang, Original Character(s)/Original Character(s)

Additional Tags: Explicit Language, Swearing, Awkward Romance, Slow Romance, Reader-Insert

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2XwcgOl

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #Royai #Roy Mustang #Riza Hawkeye #FMA #FMAB

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impossible-rat-babies · 5 years

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Me, loudly into a microphone: Fullmetal

Alchemist: Conquer of Shamballa is a good freaking anime movie

Also me: Alfons Heidrich was in love with Ed and I will die on that hill

Me, getting dragged out of the establishment: Sacred Star of Milos was good as well and internally misogyny just made me hate Julia

#fma #i am not getting back into shit but holy fuck #if this blog wasnt built on the ground of fma #it is my most used tag for a reason #but yeah just some shit tier onions

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myanimerecs · 5 years

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Fullmetal Alchemist

Rating: 3/3

Categories: action, adventure, animal abuse, comedy, conspiracy, drama, dub, fantasy, manga adaptation, military, mystery, shounen, violence

After an attempt to use alchemy to bring back their mother from the dead, Edward Elric loses an arm and leg and his younger brother Alphonse loses his entire body and his soul is bound to a giant suit of armor. Together they set out to find the mythical Philosopher’s Stone that can return their bodies back to normal but they soon realise they’ve found themselves in the middle of something much darker than they anticipated.

S1, 51 eps

Conquer of Shamballa, movie

Premium Collection, 3 eps

Brotherhood, 64 eps (remake)

Brotherhood Specials, 4 eps

4-koma theatre, 16 eps

The Sacred Star of Milos, movie

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zippers · 6 years

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my mom: you cant just sit around and rewatch fullmetal alchemist the movie: conquerer of shamballa (2005) all day

#fma 2003 #this didnt actyally happen but it should

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brightness-summoner-ghost · 6 years

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What i say: im fine

What i mean: winry had brown hair in the live action fullmetal alchemist movie and its not okay you know what else was not okay gracias hair and also they kept changing the names from the mangas in the animes and gracias hair was too long in the live action fullmetal alchemist and in conquerer of shamballa a lot of people have antennas a lot of people who aren't supposed to have antennas

#fullmetal #fullmetal alchemist live action #fma #fmacos #conquerer of shamballa #fullmetal alchemist conqueror of shamballa #fullmetal alchemist

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karinakamichi · 7 years

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Some rather important cut scenes from Fullmetal Alchemist: Conquerors of Shambala (read more under cut)

1. Izumi’s death scene: Life is the same as always at the meat shop. Sig is selling meat in the storefront. Izumi’s voice: It was about two months ago… Izumi is laid up in bed.

Winry has come. It feels like she’s become hardier having returned from her training. Her outfit has also changed, wearing an automail technician’s toolbelt and such. Winry is looking worried, talking with Izumi.

Izumi: (With a coughing fit) I eventually become unable to move… I told Al to go. There wasn’t anything else I could teach him. Winry: Is… that so…. Izumi: He… had a terrible talent for absorbing alchemy… now he might even surpass Ed. Winry nods. Winry: But… he still hasn’t given up on Ed, has he. Izumi: He believes. …That Ed is alive, somwhere…At first I thought maybe he just didn’t really understand how he’d disappeared, but… That’s not it. It seems he… feels… something.

Winry: …

Izumi has a coughing fit. Izumi: It seems he’s seeing, in dreams…. Dreams of Ed… Himself, in the body of a sickly 17 year old boy, living with Ed. There’s a rocket or something like that that they’re… working on… Winry: Izumi-san, that’s enough, please rest… Suddenly Izumi’s eyes flare open and she stands. Winry: Izumi-san? Izumi staggers outside. Izumi comes out of the back door looking ready to collapse. Winry and Sig follow her. Sig: What are you doing? Winry: If you don’t sleep…! Izumi brushes them off. Izumi… desperately walks forward. Izumi: So you’ve… come…. Looking ahead along Izumi’s line of sight, Winry gasps. Winry: …. There is Wrath. He stands, with rusted and broken down automail.

Izumi: …Son… Izumi reaches her hand towards Wrath and… like that, collapses. With a start, Wrath starts to flee. Winry: Wrath. Wrath jerks to a stop Winry: You can’t go… Isn’t she your mom, after all… Wrath: Homunculi don’t have mothers… We’re… fake lives made with alchemy… Wrath, with a look of suffering, approaches Izumi. Izumi takes hold of Wrath. Izumi: Then… I’ll give you… a real life… Wrath: … Suddenly, Izumi hugs Wrath tightly. Like that she dies. Winry: Izumi…-san? Izumi-san?! Izumi has taken her last breath, holding onto Wrath with a smile. Sig’s tears overflow… without a word. Wrath is spaced out. Winry bursts out sobbing. (End direct scene translation.)

(For the line where Wrath is encouraging Al to sacrifice him, there’s this wonderful note): “Here we have a scene that showcases the difference between Al and Wrath’s feelings. Wrath is saying that there’s no need for Al to sacrifice himself and furthermore that this is all Wrath thinks he CAN do for him. The Elric brothers are, in a way, the children of the mother figure Izumi. While Wrath is protecting them as his own brothers in a way, he may also be thinking that with this, he wants to take back his own mother.”

Hohenheim’s speech about Envy is a little different in the Prototype. There’s a writer’s note that says while they changed it, the sentiment or thought didn’t change, but as he is being chewed on by Envy him talking too long is a bit hard to pull off and with the movie at the climax they want to keep the pace up.

Hohenheim: Envy here is… also my son. Ed: …He’s a Homunculus. Hohenheim: Without so much as a single display of affection for him in his life, I abandoned him… So, if it’s what he desires then… I want to be killed by him.4

((((I don’t care what anybody says, I want to count those last words as canon rather than some line about Envy being a ‘monster’.))))

Nextly, the scene where Roy and Winry confront each other:

Beneath a cloudy sky, one man stands before a tombstone. It’s Mustang. He is not in uniform. He’s just staring downwards at Hughes’s grave. He suddenly notices behind him, crisply in uniform, is none other than Hawkeye. She was walking slowly and came to a stop at a respectable distance. It’s their first meeting in some time so while there may be many thoughts she wants to speak, ultimately she remains cool.

Hawkeye: I am certain you were sent orders to re-station, so why have you not reported in to headquarters?

Mustang says nothing.

Hawkeye: A special assembly has been called for former State Alchemists in regards to the simultaneous earthquakes in two separate cities and the armored figures that appeared in Liore. There were those saying you would be chairman of the committee.

Mustang takes out the envelope with his orders, holding it up as it is without offering it out to her at all. Mustang: I have no such right. Hawkeye: Parliament decided on it. Mustang: In refusing this I am saying: I no longer intend to serve the military. Hawkeye stares at him, as if to question his determination. Mustang drops his envelope on top of Hughes’s gravestone and walks off as Hawkeye watches. [ At the entrance to the graveyard ] Mustang passes by with a cane. He passes by a lone girl. He realizes it’s Winry. Mustang: … WInry: It has been a while. It seems you chose a very remote station. Mustang: It seems I’ll be parting from that station as well. Winry: You’re quitting? The military? Mustang answers without a word. Winry: To stand at the top of the military, and to change the nation, to make sure another war doesn’t break out. Wasn’t that your dream? Mustang: For that dream, there were many casualties. Hughes was one. ….Edward Elric was another. I have no right to even talk about dreams. Winry: Ed… isn’t dead. Mustang looks up in surprise. Winry: Al… has always believed that, and even now he’s looking for a way to see him. Mustang: …. That… must be hard on you. Winry glares sharply at Mustang. Winry: It is hard, but even so we’re moving forward one step at a time. What else can we do besides that? We’re still alive. Mustang gives a short laugh and walks off. Winry continues to glare at his back.

“It’s difficult to say say whether Ed’s decision was necessarily all that hard on Winry or… She, in her own way, has passed these two years by training and completing Ed’s new automail. In being able to give that to him she has moved on from him, I think. I wanted her to develop an identity beyond her brothers, so I tried to develop it thusly. ”

4. The cabin scene.

Breda: Setting aside your standing and applying for this position out in the country is very you, I think. I suppose this is your way of taking responsibility for assassinating the Fuhrer. Havoc: But the military needs you, Colonel. Roy: I want to serve for the nation from here as a Corporal. I no longer intend to stand above anyone. Breda: Colonel! In the name of “building the nation” they’ve started mutually raiding the budget. Nobody’s showing any direction for what this nation’s goals are. (Then Havoc tries to light his cigarette, Roy gets a match, and it’s back on track with the movie for a few lines.) In the original script, they explicitly state that it is not (Captain) Hakweye he’s waiting for but Ed, and Havoc muses that Roy supposes Ed disappeared because Roy didn’t make it to him to help him. Aikawa notes that if it were a novelization, he’d keep it explicit, but as a movie, it was better not said so plainly.

Ed: Al, you can tell by looking right, these guys are bad guys! Al: Mou! Don’t talk to me like a child! I’m twelve years old!

Ed looks with a start. Ed: (With a pained smile) Is that right, twelve huh. Then let’s do it.

Rather than Haushoffer saying he doesn’t think it’s Shamballa on the other side and being shot by Eckart after she tells Hess to go relay that it’s been confirmed, Haushoffer questions she herself really being the one to go 'confirm’ it, she asks: “Is there any other who will conquer Shamballa?”

Alfons’s final scene is a little different and there’s a note appended to it about his development as a character by the staff and writer: Ed: Wait, I never said anything about going to that side. Alfons: I want you to go.

Ed: … Alfons…. So, I’m in the way? Alfons shakes his head and breaks into a cough. Alfons: I… we… aren’t parts of your dream. Ed: …. Alfons: I am… definitely… here… Even as my life fades out, I’m not a dream. Ed: Al… I…. Alfons: Don’t… Don’t just write us off as a dream! Alfons decisively pulls down the hatch. He operates the machine.

Alfons: It seems like Edward-san doesn’t have any interest in anything in this world. Noah: Because he comes from another world? Do you believe too? Alfons: ……I don’t know. But he doesn’t know how to get back to his world, he doesn’t know what to do, and so finally he’s lost the will to live… There are times when he looks like that. (Alfons is looking into his coffee.) Alfons: But he… he just wants to go anywhere that isn’t here. Noah: Is that such a bad thing? Alfons: But in reality he’s living here. That person’s home might only exist inside of his own head. Noah: Isn’t that fine, too? (Alfons tries to take Noah’s arm) Noah: (Gasping) Don’t touch me! (An image of Alfons’s brain activity floats across Noah’s mind.

But, Alfons misunderstands.) Alfons: S… Sorry… (Releasing her hand, he stands up.) Noah: Alfons Alfons: I have, work to do… important work. (Alfons escapes and holes up in his own room. Noah, without a word… worries about Ed.)

Then the armors start going back into the gate, back to the final cut script. Gracia is pretty different in the original cut: they originally wanted to emphasize that, face aside, Shamballa Gracia is a completely different character, it says in a footnote regarding why she talks about war happily. Gracia: We haven’t seen much of Edward-kun lately, have we? Noah: Yes. He said that he was just going out, but then he’s always… Gracia: But Alfons-kun is kind, so you’re doing all right, right? Noah looks at Gracia, surprised. Gracia: But I guess it’s no good if someone’s just kind, is it? Noah turns her face away and stirs the cooking. Gracia: How long do you plan to stay here? Noah: Eh?? Gracia: It’d be best not to be in Munich. Noah: Why is that? Gracia: (Sounding happy) Because, a war might be starting. Noah: War? Alfons returns home and Gracia serves them stew then leaves them be, cue the scene where Hughes get the door shut in his face, as in the final cut.

When Alfons and Noah are talking about war, Alfons says he just wants to make rockets and adds on “Unlike Ed, I’m realistic.” (scene translation pickup) There’s something that could be considered cold about those words. Noah:… Ed… He couldn’t possibly have returned to his own world, could he. Alfons looks surprised. He forces himself to smile. Alfons: Noah fully believes him, then. As for me… I half believe him, half doubt him, still. Noah: …. But, there no people who can lie with those eyes! Alfons turns from that gaze. Alfons: That person… has never gotten a proper job and won’t get too deeply involved with anybody but myself. I’m sure it’s because he plans to return to his world some day… Because he’s thinking this is a dream…. (Alfons starts to seem annoyed.) Even if you say to him that Germany’s going to beat France and even England… All he ever says is that. “War is meaningless. No matter how many times it happens, Germany will lose” … he says. According to that person, this world is all somebody else’s problem.

Ed: Take you with me all day? Alfons said that? Noah: Yes. He says he has a meeting with an important sponsor today, so he can’t stay with me. Ed: Hnnnn, he’s really taking a lot of interest in you… (Not that he meant anything too deep by that when he said it but… Ed is troubled.) Noah: You won’t call him Al in front of me? (Ed stares at Noah.) Noah: Earlier, you had said 'Al’ so… Ed: He’s… not Al. Noah: Then Al is… Ed: My little brother. Hughes is a little “cuter” with Ed when meeting him, playing around more, being more halting and clearly hiding his own worry behind saying it’d be a problem for Gracia if Ed and Al got taken in by the Gypsy. When Ed suggests he go take care of Gracia himself, Hughes has a more played out stutter response. Noah apologizes for “deceiving” Ed, Ed says he doesn’t think she’s deceiving him. Ed: You saw that the first time we met, didn’t you? What’s in me… (Noah casts her eyes down) Ed: I’m not the type to believe in unscientific things like that but when I came to this world, I’ve been hit like 'bwaaa!’ with one thing after another, with everything I’ve seen. It shows some of the things Ed’s seen through the Gate and he does a voice over, probably not said aloud (and that’s just what it says in the script notes): Ed: And besides that, there’s… this world’s magic that I’ve come to know. In that instant, I was being touched by everything in the world… That same feeling, when you touched me… During the scene where Noah says to call her a Gypsy or a Nomad or whatever he likes, a good line of Ed’s that got cut is: Noah: We don’t need a name. Ed: Is that why you ran? Noah: ? Ed: Even if it means being poor, even if it’s hard, you just don’t want to belong to anybody.

“Alfons’s sickness is lung cancer. He got it because he breathed in damaging gasses every day.” (if anyone needs to cite this, it’s footnote 1 on page 105 of the Shamballa Scenario Book. )

Alfons tells Ed he has no right to say anything about him wanting to leave proof he lived. “In truth, more important than Germany, more important than Ed’s world, the rocket is, more than anything to Alfons, simply proof that he had lived. He wants to impress upon Ed that he really lives here, even while Ed himself lives here as if he’s in a dream.”

While Al is still a child and has straight forward thoughts like “if Nii-san is on the other side of the Gate, it just needs to be opened again” without any thoughts of what it might entail or how dangerous it would be, Aikawa didn’t want the reunion to be too happy, and he wanted to show that there was the problem of whether it was right to open the Gate again or not.

The scene when Ed had mentioned he may be able to go back to Alphonse.

“Ed couldn’t be sure if Al was really still alive, so he stayed with Alfons as a source of trifling reassurance he needed to get by. But at this point he’s met with Al in the armor and has confirmed that he’s alive. so at this point Alfons’s own existence has become a moot point for Ed. In this scene, Alfons gets a sense of this. In short, Alfons has quickly and already just become something unnecessary for Ed at this point.” At this point Ed is only thinking about going home and also hasn’t realized what it may entail yet.

(When Alfons tells Ed he wants him to go.) “Alfons doesn’t have anything else on his mind other than that he finished his rocket and the sentiment that he can send Ed home. He’s telling Ed to look at reality. After all, he hates seeing Ed so listless and idle. Ed keeps saying 'I might be able to return home, if I can just find out how’ and Alfons is, after all, able to show him that how.” Alfons tells Ed not to forget him. “Because Ed and Alfons have a special relationship, this line doesn’t mean to remember that he existed. It’s a message to those who can’t affirm the world they live in, that Alfons wants— that those who feel how short their lives are want to convey. No matter where we are, the place we’re born into or the place we make a living is ours. For someone to refuse to even recognize that place of his is very irritating to Alfons.” As Noah screams for Ed, being left behind in a world with no place for her and doomed to be shuffled out yet again, Ed’s feelings are completely different. As he goes back to the world he was born into, a part of him wonders how he should face it again.

When Ed asks if Heiderich thinks it’s all made up, Heiderich says he believes Ed’s from someplace else, but he can’t believe in a world with alchemy actually working. Ed asks if he’s heard of Paracelsus, whom Heiderich has. Ed muses that he existed in this world, too. A note on the script says Ed has realized that that’s Hohenheim, but since expanding on Hohenheim’s role in spreading alchemy would take up a lot of screen time it was all cut, including that line.

“We were incredibly unsure how to end it. In the prototype, it ends with Roze’s line. But, it’s abrupt, isn’t it? With that said, there was something off about ending it on Ed’s line too… In the end, like many things, I left some elements there for the director to decide on for me.

In two ending notes, Aikawa says, in summary (1) that this time the story he told with FMA had a main theme of the relationship people have with the world. We should take responsibility for the world we live in. People can’t just reach one conclusion, confirm it fits and make as if that’s the end of it,. They’ll keep making mistakes. There’s no human being who can always do the right thing. That goes for anime characters as well. He wished to include that obvious human trait in the characters.” Special note 2: “Watching a movie talks about an hour to two hours out of a person’s life. But if that’s all the time it takes from a person’s time, I personally believe there is little point. With that in mind, this time I thought in writing Fullmetal this time I’d like to make it a movie-like movie. When you finish viewing a movie, it shouldn’t end with the viewers who return to reality going "Aah, that was fun!” There is no meaning to that, I think. From there on what kind of color does it leave on their world, I want to make it like a book that leaves something with you. I hope you will take this movie it an opportunity, to take interest in the various things the world has to offer…“

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