#if I see you post antiship hate

[keiachi-chan]

I DON'T GET ANY OF THIS PROSHIP/ANTISHIP NONSENSE AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP FOREVER

THE WAY I SEE IT FROM THE OUTSIDE IS JUST;

Proshippers about antishippers: they think that ships should be Illegal and you should be hung for even considering writing a morally grey fic. They don't want anyone to express themselves

Antishippers in reality: I hate the contents of this fic and I think it's harmful. It shouldn't be shared. Fiction can strongly impact reality, and drive a person's morals, and I don't want to see that happen to people.

Antishippers about Proshippers: they proudly support incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other gross topics, and they'll shoot you dead for wanting to read fanfic that isn't creepy

Proshippers in reality: I believe people are entitled to writing whatever they want, even if I don't personally enjoy the material. It isn't up to the writer to dictate the morality of the reader, and they're free to do what they'd like.

JUST WORK IT OUT. WRITE WHAT YOU WANT AND BLOCK WHAT YOU HATE IT DOESN'T MATTERRRRRR.

KISS AND MAKE UP NERDS!!!!!!!

Edit: hey before u leave a comment could u read the post, maybe. Try thinking critically, also. might help a little bit, you know?

#proship #antiship #shipping discourse #WHAT ARE YOU TWO FUCKING TALKING ABOUT #fanfic #anyways I cannot assign one of these labels to myself #lest I be caught in the midst of a war #posts that would get me incinerated if I was popular #posts that I regret but can't really delete at this point

[someverygaymoth]

MASTER POST!

Welcome to the Moth Den! This blog is the home of KD!AU, The Retriver Institute, The Horrors in the Wilde, CFK!AU, Skyfall AU, Bugged!Cross(Bug), and plenty of other AUs.

(check out my AU details list here)

I'm still figuring out Tumblr, so be patient with me please!

It's important to note that I do write proship/dead dove content, and as a psych enthusiast, I believe exploring darkness through fiction can be a positive and safe experience! So, hopefully there's no confusion there. There's a list of what I am comfortable writing about vs not below the cutoff. (That is why I focus heavily on tagging all of my works adequately, and all of my posts! So that you can block keywords you don't want popping up on your timeline, and you —hopefully— never have to run into anything you don't want to see on my page!)

Two quick rules!

1. We're a SFW blog here, so when I do get our asks set up, please keep everything rated E to PG-13, alright?

2. I personally do not care what people write or draw as long as they're keeping things safe and having fun. Don't bring silly conflicts about what people write or draw onto my blog. (I'm referring to proship/antiship arguments) Thank you!

And a quick note, I do not currently take drawing or writing requests, but I do take suggestions. If you would like to suggest something to draw, I do not guarantee that even if I respond I will do said suggestion or finish it if I do start it. But please feel free to ask questions about my AUs and the characters within them!

Links↓↓ and about me↓↓

Here's the link to our SFW Discord, make sure to be kind and pay attention to the rules!

You can find me on AO3 at Some_VeryGayMoth, although not everything on there is SFW, so navigate with care!

And on Twitter, where I never post, @TgayMoth

Please make sure to take care of yourself and pay attention to tags on any of my writing, or any writing in general. If you see something you do not want to see, don't click on it. Tumblr does indeed have a keyword filter, and I will always do my best to use keywords in my posts, so if you do not know how to set up your keyword filter with the things you don't want to see on your timeline, I would highly recommend you check out this link on YouTube that will show you exactly how to do that!

Now that I've mentioned keyword filters— here's what I write vs don't write!

I write angst, violence, hurt/comfort, gore, all that good stuff.

I've written twincest(shout-out to Dreammare)(not defending this one at all, this was whore activity, and honestly if you're shipping this while riding on the technicality that they're not really brothers you have some shit to sort out because homie this is still just twincest, but I do question whether this counts as twincest due to them being one spirit split in two and popped out of a tree, so like, take that as you will)

I'm not comfortable writing any parent/child stuff but no shade if you do, I usually don't like any OG fontcest stuff either it's just hard for me to digest but again no shade.

I've written stuff about anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, disability, all sorts of trauma, lots of that.

I won't talk about the kinks I write and don't write on here but oh readers there are many yesses, maybes, and hard nos to be found there, I assure you. And again, write or read, no shade.

Uhh honestly I think that's all I have, which is kinda L, maybe I need to step up my dark fiction game if this is all I've got. (It can get so much worse and istg I will write worse stuff to spite anyone who's tossing around hate like it's confetti. And I'll tag it properly so they don't have to see it if it makes them uncomfortable. I'm just cool like that.)

(Oh btw if you're not tagging your stuff properly or make a fuss about tagging things when someone tells you that you didn't tag something properly, you and me ain't cool. Nothing about that is okay. I will never fuss about someone asking me to add a tag, if I EVER miss something please tell me, I will happily add tags for you and keep them in mind for next time.)

About me↓↓

I have been writing for about four and a half years now for the fandom, and I've been here since about the very beginning. I started posting my writing back in early 2021. It's been so wonderful to see this fandom grow and change, blossoming with many fun aus and beautiful ideas, and I hope I can contribute to many more beautiful ideas on my little corner of the internet.

I have some physical health problems that may make it difficult for me to post more regularly, but I will do my best!

#The Retriver Institute #undertale fandom #ut au #undertale sans #undertale au #KD!AU

[helios-co]

At this point when I notice "antishipper" or "proshippers dni" in the bio of someone I actually like, I just kinda assume they're misinformed until I see otherwise...

Just to set the record straight, a proshipper is someone who doesn't attack people for shipping problematic ships. Sometimes that's because they themself ship problematic ships like incest, adult/minor, or abusive ships, but the only thing you can actually know about a proshipper's views is that they follow the policies of ship-and-let-ship and don't-like-don't-read. I call myself a proshipper because I'm not gonna harass or publicly shame people who ship stuff I don't like or agree with. I've posted anti-izuocha in the past with some malice, sure, but that was from the perspective of defending canon. People claim it's "clearly canon" when it's not and it pisses me off. But if someone tells me "I ship izuocha whether or not they're canon because I think they're cute together and that they'd be happy together" we have no problem. I respect that 100%. I'll maybe try to convince them of my own views but I'm not gonna be a bitch to them if they stand firm in their own.

The entire concept of being antiship is pro-censorship and pro-harassment. It's saying "if you ship something bad in fiction you deserve to be called out because you're a bad person and I hate you". Even if people DON'T ship the bad thing and they just write or draw it because the dynamic interests them, the same way people write whump of their fav character or draw gore, the antishipper view is "you're hurting real people by creating fictional works and you're a shit person". I think that's bullshit. I am anti-censorship. Keeping people, especially children, from seeing shit that isn't for them, is the job of the adult. If they're an adult, they need to be aware of the shit they can't deal with and curate their own experience based on it. Tumblr let's you block tags you don't wanna see. Ao3 has it's entire revolutionary tagging and filtering system to let you pick what you do and don't wanna see. Don't like, don't read. If they're a child, it's their adult guardians' responsibility to monitor their internet access and let them know (constructively and gently!!) what to avoid online. If your kid is seeing nsfw online, no matter the topic or ship, don't blame it on the content creators, blame yourself. The only thing I expect of the creators is tagging your shit properly with the necessary content warnings and spoilering text or images on certain platforms when it's needed.

Anyways, this is probably gonna be our only post on this subject, but our views are out there now and we're standing by them.

#proship #antiship #shipcourse #proshipper #misinformation #censorship #pro shipping #bnha ships #fandom #izuocha #bakudeku #ao3 #tumblr #dont like dont read #ship and let ship

[lovelybrooke]

I want to put my two cents into the whole “ant-dark fiction” debate because I think it ultimately boils down to people not being able to understand viewpoints outside their own, ON BOTH SIDES.

Resently I saw a post of someone saying something along the lines of “please stop writing fanfics of woman being r*ped” and I saw a bunch of people in the comments and reblog a essentially saying “welp, guess tumblr isn’t for you” and I think that’s just in bad faith.

People are allows to not like fanfic the glamorizes SA, HOWEVER, on the other side, people are allowed use fanfic as a coping mechanism or a safe way to explore fantasies. I personally think that because Tumblr isnt an app like TikTok with an algorithm, meaning in order to consume content you have to search it out, I think it’s ultimately your responsibility to read tags and make sure you’re safe. You can’t police everyone because it makes you uncomfortable. On that same note, if you write dark fiction you need to recognize how putting your kinks/ fantasies out their can effect people, because contrary to popular belief, it does effect people.

I hate how Proship/ Antiship discourse has runined fandom spaces. I hate how people see the discourse as black and white, it you support this one thing you’re a terrible person, if you don’t support this one thing you’re great. I hate how the discourse has ruined fanfic as an art form and has discouraged people from using fanfic as a way of dealing with their trauma, AND I also hate how people are unwilling to recognize that the things they put onto the internet is going to effect people. Controversial take, but fiction does effect reality.

It effects reality when you put posters of your favorite character on your wall. It effects reality when you cry because your favorite character died. It effects reality when your reading fanfic or drawing fanart of your favorite character. It effects reality when you sit here on your bed writing all this shit for most people not to care. If fiction didn’t effect reality then most fiction wouldn’t be loved today. Fiction effecting reality isn’t always a bad thing, people just like to paint it that way. But it can also really harm people who might not be in good mental shape. I KNOW that yandere behaviors are bad in real life, that’s why I can read Yandere fanfiction and be perfectly fine. But there are actual people on this app acting like Yanderes, talking about how they want to hurt themselves or other people for their “love.” That is fiction effecting reality in a negative way.

Either way, I think we need to start understanding and acknowledging viewpoints outside our own. Instead of rushing to say “we’ll actually I use non-con fanfic to cope from my on SA” any time a person slightly critiques dark fiction, actually take the five seconds to understand their viewpoint and why they might be upset/ uncomfortable when you post about how badly you want to be non-coned by some hot anime boy. It’s weird, especially if you’ve gone through that first hand. It isn’t glamorous or sexy, it’s traumatizing and people are allowed to fee that way. People are also allowed to use their blog to explore dark tropes in a safe way with people that also want to explore those tropes, and commenting on a post that clearly says DEAD DOVE DO NOT EAT with “how dare you write fanfic about SA, you’re a terrible person!!!!” Is also not helpful in any way.

Tdlr: other people exist that aren’t you. They experience and deal with trauma in different ways and no one should be shamed for that. Pro/Anti-ship discourse has ruined fandom spaces forever, and fiction does effect reality and that’s not a bad thing.

#proship #antiship #pro/anitship discourse #shipping discourse #dark fiction discourse

[ship-discourse-confessions]

100% understand if you don't want to post this I'm a non-offending necrophile and seeing how people treat other paraphiles is absolutely fucking awful. I didn't choose to be like this in my case I never wanted this. I actually am so happy I'm still able to love and be with real living people. But I can't help but have my brain focus on the stuff from my trauma and create other fantasies and ideas because of that. I know that's not always how it works for people mine is disordered excessively so due to the level of distress and pain it causes me because of self-hatred and fear I am magically going to do something against my morals and be imprisoned for it just because everyone seems to claim paraphiles MUST act on it and cannot ya know choose to not be a bad person. It's one of the issues I have with both sides of pro/antiship. Both sides DESPISE people like me or my friend who's a pedophile. They cannot tell the difference between having these kinds of inclinations and acting on them. Pedos are not child predators by default- not all child predators are pedos. I'm living proof of that given a lot of the CSA I experienced was done by people who wanted money and didn't even really like me sexually. People are so ungodly cruel. Thought crimes are not real. Paraphiles should not be hated for their thoughts when they're non-offending (when it comes to ones that require harm or desecration of a corpse/spread of disease).

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#shipping discourse

[shandycandy278]

are you proship or antiship?

I prefer not to use those terms, actually!

There’s SO much drama with both terms, and I know that if I were to just say that I’m either of them I will have my ask box full of questions I won’t want to answer

(And the only questions in my ask box that I haven’t answered are REALLY sweet wholesome things that I look back on when I’m sad. I don’t want to ruin that with seeing hate anons.)

I do have opinions about this though, so I am going to put it under a cut. If you decide to read, I’d like to start off saying that I am NOT MAD AT THE ASKER. nor anyone else, really. I’m simply sharing my opinion on the matter and if you have a different opinion about this sort of thing, that is absolutely OKAY.

My opinion is not the only opinion out there, nor the only one that has a right to exist or anything stupid like that.

Please do NOT take this answer as me saying that people should believe my opinion and ONLY my opinion. These are literally just my thoughts on the matter, nothing more.

With that over with, click below if you would like to know my thoughts on the matter.

I WILL start with that I am a firm believer that fiction does not affect reality unless you let it. Just because someone writes incest, dark kink, yandere kidnapping and abuse- and anything else of the like does NOT mean that they support people who do that or think that it should happen in reality.

Fiction literally means “not real”, AKA, nothing to do with anything about reality. Fanfiction is literally “not based on reality” works for shows that they like. The only way “fiction” can become “reality” is if YOU decide you physically want to make that happen and do it yourself. Not because someone wrote or drew it. Because YOU decided to bring it into reality and do it yourself. (And I highly doubt any of you would do that.)

I’ve written about suicides. I’ve written about a suicide where one lover kills the other before killing himself. I’ve written about a man killing his son’s lover to bring back his dead wife. I’ve written about anime protagonists being in abusive relationships and running away to safety with a new lover. I’ve written incest. I’ve written about rape. I have an unfinished WIP about one of my OCs being stuck in a death loop with her lover and no hope for escape, and some loops it’s her lover that kills her and vice versa.

Do I support any of these in real life? NO.

I write to figure out what might have happened. I write for the what if. I write to explore possibilities. I don’t write within a moral compass because I wouldn’t discover/learn/think of anything new or interesting if I did.

Another thing that I am a firm believer in is moderating/taking charge of your experience on the internet. Don’t agree with someone? Block them. Don’t like the ship they draw? Mute them. Don’t like their taste of situations between people that makes things “problematic”? Please for the love of whatever higher being you believe in, if there is one, DO NOT COMMENT ON THEIR POST SAYING THAT YHE AUTHOR/ARTIST SUCKS AND DESERVES TO DIE. THAT’S JUST RUDE??? AND ITS CYBERBULLYING???

Please, anyone who does this and ends up reading this, were you not in the same internet safety classes that I was in??? You know where they talked about online predators and keeping yourself safe and how the internet is only good if you use it as such??? 😭 What happened to all the videos depicting kids falling into a depression over this kind of thing and considering committing suicide because of it that kinda scarred you for life in that good way??? We need people to watch those again or something, the drama that happens on the internet today is NOT okay.

Finally, there’s nothing wrong with shipping whatever you want to ship in my opinion. Although I kinda grew up doing it weird. My parents and aunts and uncles and even GRANDPARENTS have stories about how I played with my toys.

When I was a little girl playing with my littlest pet shops and Barbie’s and Polly pockets I had girls with guys and guys with guys and girls with girls and I’d switch up their gender ON THE REGULAR for whatever I wanted at the time. I’d do reincarnation forbidden love stories and the mean girl learns to be good stories and everything in between.

Heck I didn’t have enough of them to play with so I had whoever “gave birth” to the child flipping die so that the character who had held the child became the child and she was just “an exact image of her mother you look more and more like her each day”. When I talk about playing with dolls in any asks about my writing I’m literally referring to the fact that I did this sort of thing all the way up until I graduated high school.

It might be weird, but… it’s just my norm. I’ve always been like this. And I know not many understand it, and I don’t expect them to either.

(But I will say that if you caught me playing with my toys in the middle of a story where the one who gave birth died and became the child/daughter and screamed in my ear “EXCUSE YOU THATS NOT OKAY TO DO THEYRE THE SAME PERSON EW WHAT ARE YOU DOING THATS SO GROSS” I would gather up all my toys and leave and go somewhere else and keep playing. It was my escape from reality. If you get mean about it you don’t get to play with my toys and that’s that.)

At the end of the day, I’m a Multishipping writer. I ship everything under the sun and moon and stars. I ship many forms of it, healthy or not. If you don’t like that, feel free to block me. Go ahead and moderate your experience, PLEASE.

I would rather you block something that disturbs you and have you protect your own mental health than go into the comments and ruin someone else’s mental health.

I suppose most people would call me a pro-shipper, because I AM “let other people do as they wish and ship what they want”. We are human beings, we have agency, we are free to do whatever we want. But I don’t identify myself as such because I do NOT want to have to do battle with people who throw a fit because “not everyone has the same opinions and views as them”. I do not have the mental capacity or health to be a part of that war.

Please for the love of everything you care about leave me out of it. If you try to drag me into this stupid thing or send hate my way for this I WILL block you. It would be to moderate my own experience AND to protect my mental health. I won’t hesitate.

And if you think asking on anon would stop that- no. It won’t. There are ways to track down your account if you have one and just hit the anon button. I am not afraid to use it.

#ask sc #proshipping #antishipping #drama #i am being serious #i am also not mad at this asker #anon if you see this know that I seriously am not mad at you #I’m mad at the cyber bullies

[localpissenthusiast]

as someone who used to be in the antiship community, i don't think i wanna be a part of it anymore, and here's why.

(tw harassment mentions)

let me preface that this is just me stating my personal opinions and as of right now i don't really stand with either side. what i DON'T stand for is telling people to kill themselves over being on either side.

it's insane how many antishippers i've seen under proshippers' posts describe violently and in gruesome, sickening detail how they should kill themselves - it just doesn't make sense to me. isn't the point of antishipping to avoid normalising problematic behaviour, and yet here some of these people are, sending death threats and telling proshippers to kill themselves?

i just don't see what violence is going to achieve in a situation and community that's supposed to be anti-violence - it's not going to change anyone's views, all it does is spread hate, which the world definitely doesn't need any more of. i don't care how bad the ship or content is, those are fictional characters, while you just told a REAL person to violently kill themselves. you don't get moral high ground for telling ANYONE to kill themselves or by describing how you would kill them/how they don't deserve to live for writing a fanfiction.

n my experience, as a (previous) antishipper who was open to hearing opposing points of view, i would have actual civilized discussions with proshippers to talk about why we stood where we stood on the issue. most if not all of the people i talked to were shipping what they did because of past trauma, and while it might not be an ideal coping mechanism, most of our coping mechanisms as humans, especially with trauma, are somewhat maladaptive. it doesn't make it right, but telling people to end their own lives, especially knowing that they're already struggling with mental illness, is worse than any fictional ships ive ever seen.

these proshippers also took measures to ensure that people who may be triggered by the content of their posts as well as impressionable children were warned and had ways to block their content. their intent was not to trigger anyone, but to create a community of consenting adults with similar coping mechanisms to enjoy their fictional ships without bothering anyone else, and while making it clear that they did not support real-life problematic relationships. these people engaged peacefully or did not engage at all with antis, a stark contrast to the community i was accustomed to, which was full of toxicity, violence, threats and accusations 24/7; funny that the side that preaches non-toxicity in fiction does not adhere to the same morality in real life by any stretch of the imagination.

im not saying that i agree with or support shipping incest or pedophilia, but im not going to harass non-toxic proshippers for coping with other consenting adults and engaging with fictional ships they enjoy. im sorry to all proshippers who have to deal with toxic antis day in and day out, who feel the need to send threats and hate your way instead of just blocking you and moving on.

if you're non-toxic and on either side, just know that i love and respect you - keep doing what you're doing and keep enjoying what you're enjoying.

moral of the story, im neutral on the issue and definitely no longer part of the antiship community after what ive seen, however i wouldn't define myself as proship either. im neutral on shipping, and anti telling people to kill themselves.

i have no doubt i'll be harrassed for this post, and i know for certain that my PTSD is not ready for it, but it needs to be said.

antishippers who fight fictional violence with REAL violence have no moral high ground, and if you are one of these people please do not interact with me.

#proship #proshipping #proshipper #antiship #antishipper #anti shipping #🍖🌈 #neutral #i am so tired #please don't cancel me #telling people to kts is not alright #and never will be #fiction #fandoms #discourse #anti anti #mental abuse #mentally ill #mental illness #coping #mental health #no harassment please #but either side is free to state their point of view if it does not include violence

[littlemelonberry]

you're safe here, promise

welcome to my blog! you can call me bambi, or you can call me melon!

this blog is a safe space for proship, radqueer, paraphile, and other folk! i have no true dni but i will block as i see fit - mostly if you're mean or i don't like your content.

before you follow:

like i said, this blog is a safe space for people! i post primarily about proship, transid, and propara stuff, but sometimes other stuff comes up! i am strictly anti-harassment - that means i don't believe in crosstagging or hate mail or anything, even against people i don't like.

i will never post discourse. i will never post or reblog scary real-world news - i have a main blog for a reason. you can follow that here! this blog is exclusively for feel-good posts and posts that might be affirming/comforting for "scary" people (like paraphiles and transharmfuls!)

that means that sometimes i might post content that's upsetting or potentially triggering - these posts will be tagged as both what they are (eg "#noncon") and an accompanying tw tag ( eg "#tw noncon"). please block these tags as necessary, and block me if you think this blog overall would be stressful for you!

more about me under the cut!

i am a chrono adult and would prefer if minors did not interact with my nsfw posts (for legal reasons!) tagged "#suggestive/nsfw". other posts are perfectly safe, though.

i'm autistic, and i like to ramble sometimes! mostly about the art i'm interacting with or about stuff my friends are doing!

i'm the host to a system! we might make a properly system blog at some point but for right now, my buddy xay has a blog he uses for stuff! soon he might even start posting regularly!

i won't post hate mail - anon or not - for the safety of my followers! everything posted to this blog is meant to serve as a safe space - that means no posts with inherent anger or bitterness. those go to the main blog!

in the same vein, i don't like getting into discourse or other heavy topics here on the blog. if you want my opinions about things like the proship/antiship discourse, the syscourse, or radqueer stuff, please go send those asks to my main! this space is solely for safe, civil discussions and for having a good time!

my tags

#melonmarkings tag for when i am rambling or saying something that doesn't belong to any specific community.

#askbox my inbox response tag! wanna see if i answered your ask? check here!

#repot a tag specifically for if i've updated/redone something. not currently in use, but i'm leaving it here anyway!

#melonmarkings #i should do this again later when not eepy and dry-mouthed #oh well

[shitnpiss]

OKAY I said I wanted to make this post five months ago so it's about time that I do.

And I've seen your response @fordislavski, I misinterpreted what you said a bit, and I get the feeling that you meant... A little too well...

So that's what this is about. Shitnpiss's Stancest State of the Union. I've been wandering around the Gravity Falls fandom for the past 2 and a half years, and over that time, I've seen artists, writers, other fans come and go. This is normal, of course, but there's something I've noticed over the past year or so.

More and more often I come across a new popular GF blog, enjoying their content, feeling safe, until I see something written in their bio or pinned post:

"proship dni"

and/or

"stancest dni"

Or even worse, they don't have those in their bio or pinned post, so I'm scrolling through their blog, thinking they wouldn't hate my existence over a ship... and there it is. A post saying that they hate proshippers, stancest shippers, for them to dni, whatever.

I'm concerned. This spreading of antishipping means the fandom is becoming a more hostile place for us... and that's unfortunately exactly what they want. They want stancest and us shippers gone.

Not only have I noticed this rise in antis in the fandom, but it also seems as if there's been a decline in new stancest content and shippers (compared to previously)... but is there?

Of course there is. This incredible comic by @high-sixing for @5summersofstancest Past, Present, and Future last year puts it better than I ever could. The number of stancest shippers is so much smaller than what it was 5 years ago, a bit smaller than when I started wandering around the GF fandom, but does it really matter? The increase in antis and decrease in our numbers is scary, yeah, but we're still here. We still love these hot grunkles kissing. We still want to make more art, fanfiction, headcanons, imagines, whatever, of those hot grunkles kissing. And we're still going to, even when the stancest tag goes slow and the antis get scary.

Remember, we're still here, and we don't have to go anywhere!

Don't give up the ship!

#i went a bit hard there #im sure you understand #i am very passionate about stancest and i am not afraid to say no to whatever tries to threaten us from sailing this ship #stancest #shitnpiss stancest state of the union #to all of my fellow shippers who got this far: thank you for reading #i love you and what you bring to this wonderful ship #and dont feel like youre obligated to many any sort of content for this ship! you owe nothing! #just dont be afraid to keep shipping this ship #thats all :)

[furvillaconfessions]

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hi it's me again, thanks for humoring me! i understand how it seemed like bait, but i genuinely wasn't trying to bait anyone. as for my proshipping friend, they're not into pedophilia/zoophilia/etc. problematic content, they hate it too, they just believe in the freedom of shipping others... as in, they wouldn't harass someone for shipping something problematic. they wouldn't really condone it, but they wouldn't attack the person just for their ship. they also believe in people being allowed to write/draw/etc. about whatever they want as long as it's tagged properly and they keep it strictly fictional. "dead dove do not eat" kind of thing, if you know what that is? they don't mind seeing that sort of content (and have even read some stories like that too) but it doesn't mean they support it. they consume it critically, as they say.

as for why i'm friends with them, it's just that i'm old enough to remember the times when people didn't instantly refuse to be friends with someone over whether they're pro/antiship. we've been friends for a really long time and it was only later they told me they consider themselves a proshipper and i know them well enough to be able to trust them. still, if it turns out they're into problematic content (pedophilia/zoophilia/etc.) and don't see anything wrong with it (and would maybe want that irl too), that's when i'll try knocking some sense into them and if it doesn't work, well, it was a fun friendship while it lasted. i don't mind proshippers who are chill, but the moment they turn into genuine creeps is when enough is enough.

sorry for rambling! also sorry i brought the shipping thing here for a bit, i don't think i'll talk about this any further. thank you again!

[magicspyglass]

OKAY SO I just wanted to throw my hat in the ring. While I am anti-ship (I see pedophilic ships and incest as awful), I like some stuff that people see as.. problematic. Mostly the fact that I'm fine with large age gaps (as long as both partners first met as adults, grooming is gross).

I'm saying all of this because I admit I'm worried that someone is gonna see me as proship for.. liking age gaps? And also self shipping with characters that are much older than me.

I also don't harass proshippers like most people who are antiship. My mental health is shit as is, and any confrontation or arguing will just make it worse. I don't like what they are doing, but as far as I can tell the majority of them are not pedophilies (despite their gross ships lol). Telling someone to kill themselves is fucked up. Plus in the end it's only gonna make them hate all antishippers more!

I mean there are shitty proshippers who harass others. I even saw someone leave a blog once because a bunch of them were insulting them because they put a post asking proshippers to avoid them. BTW they were a minor! So I'm not defending them. All I'm saying is that it's best to leave them be. If someone does something that you find uncomfterble, than just block them. Only report them if there's CONCRETE EVIDENCE that they are pedophiles.

ALSO if any Proshipper turns out to be a pedophile I'm not gonna defend them. This post isn't concerning them. Pedos must die!!

Please don't argue with me in the comments or in replies, I just wanna state my opinion. Now back to ponies! Or.. whatever imma post.

#antiship #anti proship #anti proshippers #just saying my opinion lol

[melancholic-entrails]

a lengthier intro that explains things in simpler terms :) heyo! you can call me star or sil!

i use any pronouns including neopronouns, i especially like it/it's and they/them. just make sure to add some variety sometimes if you're going for less neutral ones :)

i am a minor- i occasionally horny post/ etc however. reminder, this does not equal consent. but i normally tag them #suggestive cw or #cw suggestive if i remember.

i don't always remember to tag possible triggering things, so please proceed with caution!

a little bit about me:

i am a self shipper ( with fictional characters ) . i'm always okay with "sharing" fictional characters, because i believe in the multiverse theory when it comes to both selfship and otherkinity. the multiverse theory basically explores the idea of the multiverse with fiction- different versions of the same fictional character. meaning that in my eyes, "sharing" fictional characters does not exist because we all see them in different ways. of course, it is perfectly alright for you to be uncomfortable with sharing, but that is what i personally believe.

i believe in ship and let ship. nobody should be harassed for their taste in fiction. people can be groomed with fiction, but people can be groomed with anything. yes, this includes whatever "disgusting" things you are thinking of. it is okay if you despise them, just block and move on. don't send hate.

we are all living breathing human beings with thoughts and feelings and wants and dreams. don't send hate.

i do not believe in thought crimes. yes, this includes whatever you're thinking of. thought crimes are not real.

there is nothing wrong with having paraphilias, because oftentimes this is a result of trauma or you simply cannot control it.

however, i only stand for consensual contact in real life. meaning that i am anticontact on sexual zoophilia, pedophilia, etc.

if you find my stances personally disgusting, block and move on, please.

for trans-identifiers: most common being transgender, less common being trans-species, trans-race, etc:

bottom line, as long as you are not using these labels to mock fun of the community you are taking on the labels of, it does not matter.

people may take on these labels as forms of empowerment, simply relating to them, or any other reason.

and for the topic of system origins, such as the origins of a dissociative identity disorder, i will only say this:

i am not a doctor. i don't know the inside of your brain. so i cannot know if you are faking or not. the same goes for any mental illness. this means that i am not someone who knows enough about dissociative identity disorders and the like to properly say that endogenic systems- systems not formed by trauma- are real or not.

what i will say, though? exclusionism isn't fun. it's not nice. if the endogenic person(s) are simply existing, it is simply mean spirited to mock them.

something else i have noticed is: there are endogenic systems or plural people or etc that label as nondisordered, but i personally think many are disordered rather than they claim, simply because dissociative disorders are not researched enough.

bottom line, i don't care what you call yourself- i care how you conduct. and that includes for all sorts of discourse, including the proship vs antiship discourse, the traumagenic vs endogenic discourse, and everything else.

internet safety things: please, please, don't share a list of your triggers or diagnoses online. it is simply dangerous.

post-script:

no matter how vile you believe someone is, because you disagree with them, find them annoying, or anything else?

it is never a kind thing to doxx someone or send death threats because of their opinions on the internet.

especially for proship discourse on tumblr dot com.

just think twice, kay?

#updated longform intro #stances

[kiruliom]

outdated intro post, new one's here [link]

important!: my blog is not safe for people sensitive to bright colors or eyestrain!! its not (just) an aesthetic thing and Im so sorry for the inconvenience!

greetings <3

you can call me Darling, Archie or Kiru

miaspec queer, he/him, it/it's, kie/kir

I have no titles but dont mind them being used so if you wanna use them you can use "the horror", or just anything you think that fits me, just keep in mind I dont like titles that make me seem superior personally

send me these emojis in my asks and Ill give you something!!

🐙 (octopus emoji): random animal fact (you may choose the animal if you wish)

💗 (heart emoji): random,,, anything! whatever is going on in this empty head :3

🌀(spiral emoji): random pronouns!!

heres my carrd (link)

my main blog @kiruyeen

flag in banner: PINKsongic (link)

request status

[pt: request status]

flag making/identity coining: closed!!

name/pronoun finding and checking: open

term searching: closed

character headcanons/avatars: closed

pride emoji edits, userboxes etc: closed

I have every right to deny a request for any reason, I wont ever ignore requests though, Im just super slow sometimes

what Im okay and not okay with

getting alternative flags made of my coins (credit would be nice, would love to see them too so dont be afraid to tag me!!)

being @'ed to reblog an identity

transcripts/image IDs being added to flags where I forgot to add one, reminding me to add an eyestrain warning to posts that need it, making desaturated alternatives for the flags I make, anything that makes it more accessible to people with disabilities, as I screw up sometimes and am very bad at noticing it after

NO purposeful recoins of my terms (if you have any problems with me/my terms, please talk to me about it directly)

TBA??? feel free to ask

before you follow

[pt: before you follow]

Im a fan of: homestuck, boyfriends (webtoon), MLP, FNAF, vocaloid (esp. MARETU and kikuo!), monster high, cookie run, danganronpa and MCYT (NOT dsmp, I dont like dsmp), however I am critical of every media I consume

I am poly'type alterhuman + voidpunk, along with a furry, I support every 'type though am critical of factotypes

I identified as pansexual homoromantic for the longest time (I no longer do but I have no beef with people who are) so if youre not comfortable with that please leave

antiship, anti radqueer, anti transid, anti contact harmful paras, Im both radinclus and critinclus

I identify as a femboy, despite that I recognize and am careful about its negative relation to transfems. (no hate towards people who do use rosboy or maiboy etc. though you guys are cool as fuck)

Im a singlet, and would therefore prefer not to engage in syscourse at all, its just not my place to comment.

I am disordered and disabled. I have the right to not elaborate any more, just be patient with me, I make mistakes sometimes. and tone tags/elaboration when talking abt a specific post etc. help a lot

no DNI, I block liberally, you can ask me about why I blocked you if it worries you that much

#xenogender #xeno coining #lgbtq #lgbt #trans #neopronouns #transgender #autistic culture #actually autistic #autigender #autism #mogai friendly #mogai #mogai positivity #mogai blog #mogai community #mogai identity

[antiradqueer]

I have a mutual who says it's transsage and trassnspecies and that "otherkin/therians and transspecies are brothers we are in the brotherhood. Transage is, for many people, a trauma thing." it responded to an ask saying that being a rq is harmful with "unfollow me then LMAO". this is a minor, and I sometimes see it interacting with adults. I mention this because even though it claimed to be anti-proship, some of these adults are like, "I'm not proship but I fit the definition" so you're proship then??? (so called "neutralshippers" who turn out to actually be either staunchly proship or antiship piss me off) these adults also post nsfw stuff and allow minors to interact. I lowkey think my mutual is being groomed, but I don't wanna make assumptions…what do I do? It's such a nice and funny person, I don't want it to turn for the worse, but I risk getting blocked and smeared as someone hateful. plus one of its moots said, "why are we the transgenders cool for breaking the constructs and fucking around but these others that people make out to be only ever constantly in purposeful bad faith not as cool and sick ??? I dont really get it." there's no indication of whether they're an adult or minor. I don't really know what to say other than it seems unconsciously TERF-ish. I also don't think it's "cool" to be a white person wanting to be black or something like that. that doesn't break any constructs it's just racist. what do you say to that?

tricky situation you have there, anon...

unfortunately you can't force your mutual to listen to you. however you could offer them an ear I'd they need one, maybe voice your concerns over DMs without accusing them of being a bad person, etc. however, it's very likely they'll snap and don't want to listen, yell at you or whatever - people don't like to hear what they're doing is not as cool as they think it is. nobody wants to be the bad guy, naturally...

I don't have great advice on this, I know ._. good luck tho!

#mod luna 🌙