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vaulthunterlands · 3 months

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BORDERLANDS COLLEGE AU

Stupid idea I had a few nights ago, don't think too hard about the inconsistencies in ages and stuff. Probably just doing Vault Hunters and a few other characters.

ROLAND

Majoring in cybersecurity. Good student, studies and gets consistently high grades. Has a well-formulated meal and workout plan. Also an RA on campus. Roland is the guy you go to if you have issues. He might not be great at "talking you through them" or "showing empathy" but he always has solid advice and is well-respected by his peers.

BRICK

I was going to say "Brick wouldn't go to college in canon" but this isn't canon babeyyyy. Brick is going into veterinary medicine. You may think this is completely off as a major for him, but I argue that his love for dogs is far greater than any challenge he may face in his education. Still a gym maniac. Roland is his RA, which means Roland is in charge of calming Brick down when he gets mad. Dating Mordecai. Also, unrelated but Brick in a philosophy class:

"Brick, can you tell us what you think about what Descartes said?"

"I PUNCH Descartes."

LILITH

Y'all are going to hate me for this but Lilith is a chemistry major. Girl loves fire, electricity, and acid so you can't tell me she wouldn't be a menace in her labs. (Also, before the first game was released her full title was "Dr. Lilith Cashlin, Mercenary Scientist") Only goes to class half the time but still does really well. Rooms with Mordecai and Brick. Huge crush on this RA she keeps seeing around

MORDECAI

BIRD MAAAAAN. Y'all already know this guy is doing two things on campus. 1) Majoring in Ornithology 2) Going to parties to get drunk. This man is the epitome of "college is for partying". Keeps birds in campus (not allowed) and is doing okay in his classes (he is hung over 80% of the time) (Mordy pls) Dating Brick.

PATRICIA TANNIS

Honestly, what field of science ISN'T this girl majoring in? She's insane(ly smart) and constantly gets perfect scores on all of her exams. Closest friends are Roland and the gang.

MARCUS

Why is he here??? What??? Marcus is the guy who runs the restaurant that is directly across the street from campus. *Phenomenal* food, but GOD is it pricey. Tends to not care about many of the students chilling (as long as they BUY SOMETHING)

SCOOTER

Doesn't go to this college but he's good friends with Roland and his pals. Likes to go out drinking with them on the weekends and is just all-in-all a cool guy to hang around with. Friends with Janey.

AXTON

BMOC. Captain of the football team. You can trust him! (He's the water boy.) Total jock but he's not an asshole about it. Majoring in Rehabilitation Science. He's... not the *best* student, but he does try and genuinely care about what he wants to do. Lives with Salvador, Maya, and Zer0 in a dorm.

SALVADOR

Culinary major. My man can COOK. He's the best cook in the dorm and no one will ever argue if he offers to cook. Really good student even though he parties all the time with Mordecai, Brick, and Axton. Lives with Maya, Axton, and Zer0.

ZER0

*Insert weeb joke here* They're a literature major. Not just because of the haiku, either. I feel like Zer0 would be fantastic in literature courses and understanding thr deeper meanings in texts. They are seen as a "weird kid" on campus. They do not care. Lives with Maya, Salvador, and Axton.

MAYA

The reason I made this list (big surprise, V does a huge post and it's Maya's fault), Maya majors in entomology. (S/O to @forbiddenpurplesoda for this because I've always thought Maya would be a bug girl) Maya is a phenomenal student and she always gets great marks in her studies. Lives with Axton, Sal and Zer0. Has at least one pet beetle that makes Axton panic.

GAIGE

Mechanical Engineering/Robotics major. Obviously built Deathtrap as a buddy because she felt a little lonely in her dorm. Calls her Dad every night. Has a huge crush on a girl in one of her math classes. Lives with...

KRIEG!!!!

Listen. Listen. Krieg majors in psychology. The *actual* football captain. Doesn't talk much and when he does, it's complete nonsense. (Everyone just goes "haha classic Krieg") Gaige gets along with him extremely well. Maya and him have a thing where they will just look at each other and think "holy shit they're so gorgeous). Always wears a face mask.

TINA

Child prodigy chemistry major, buddies with Lilith and Roland. But seriously, who let this kid in the lab? Like, okay, yeah, she knows what she's doing, but what she's doing is COMBUSTION REACTIONS. How is she still in school.

ELLIE

Engineering major. Lives in the building across from Roland and the gang. Absolute sweetheart and huge flirt but will also drop you on her ass if you threaten her friends.

MOXXI

I could see Moxxi as a professor of engineering, actually. Every student thinks she's gorgeous and she's learned to ignore it. Scooter and Ellie's Mom. Thinks their friends are funny.

HANDSOME JACK

Oh man, this one was tough. I decided on absolute tool you meet in college who's the head of a frat and thinks he's God's gift to women. Lives in the same building as Roland, Lilith, Brick, Mordecai, Salvador, Axton, Maya, Zer0, Gaige, and Krieg. Constantly getting into arguments with... basically everyone listed above. Majors in business.

ANGEL

She's an art major!!! She's super intelligent and aces all of her classes but she absolutely loves art. Jack is her brother in this AU. Has a crush on the cute punk girl in her math class but could never tell her. Lives in a single.

ALISTAIR HAMMERLOCK

Double majors in conservation biology and zoology! Finds the creatures that he studies absolutely fascinating and always has a bright disposition on his face. Lives in a single that looks exactly like you think it does (his room on Sanctuary III). Strained relationship with his sister.

ATHENA

Acient History Major, specifically interested in Ancient Greece (wonder why?). Works at Marcus' restaurant. Hates it. Pay her more. Has her eyes on a girl that frequents Marcus' restaurant. Tried to live with Wilhelm, Jack, Nisha, Timothy, and Claptrap for a semester, she is now a commuter. Still friends with Timothy.

WILHELM

Jack's second-in-command. People look at him like he's a dumbass, big hunk of meat, but he's also in a robotics major. Aside from being buddies with Jack, he's... kind of chill? Man likes what he likes and he works out pretty often. Boxes in his free time. Lives with Nisha, Jack, Timothy, and (formerly) Claptrap.

NISHA

Criminal justice major, naturally. Jack's girlfriend and the baddest and scariest bitch on campus. Likes watching old western movies. Never, ever shows up to class but still passes. No one knows how. Lives with Jack, Timothy, Wilhelm, and (formerly) Claptrap

CLAPTRAP

Theater major! Always has a smile on his face, even though he's nooooot very well-liked. Tried to get in with the popular guys but eventually figured out he was being used. He confronted Jack and Jack kicked him out of the dorm 😔 Lives... well, he kind of just lives around Roland's dorm. Roland's too nice to say no.

TIMOTHY

I feel like Tim would be a Biology major. I don't know why but I can see him in that field. Looks SCARILY similar to Jack, and hates this. Unfortunately put into a room with Jack, Wilhelm, Nisha, and (formerly) Claptrap. Misses Athena greatly and wishes she still lived on campus. They're still good friends.

AURELIA HAMMERLOCK

Oh good lord, who let her on a college campus. Has an extravagant single room because she's *rich* and she's not sharing with someone else are you insane? Studies law because this bitch wants to be a judge someday. Absolutely hates to be seen with her brother Alistair. Rivalry with another rich law student makes this even more tense.

JANEY SPRINGS

Doesn't go to this college but she knows a few people around campus and hits up Marcus' restaurant for a bite to eat every so often. The food is just so good, right? No other reason. None at all. Friends with Scooter.

RHYS STRONGFOK

Rhys is a business and economics major. Is in Jack's frat. Is getting increasingly sick of Jack's shit. Buddy buddy with Vaughn, Fiona, and Zer0. Dating Sasha.

VAUGHN

Accounting major. Man has a mind like a steel trap, and also enjoys bodybuilding. Best friends with Rhys, good friends with Fiona and Sasha.

FIONA

I genuinely feel like Fiona would be a nursing or Healthcare major. I have no basis for this, it just feels right for her. Hates Jack and keeps telling Rhys to tell him to fuck off. Friends with Rhys and Vaughn, Sasha's older sister.

SASHA

Social work major! Loves helping people and wants to make a change in the world after she and Fiona grew up in less-than-ideal circumstances. Dating Rhys, also keeps telling Rhys to get away from Jack. Friends with Vaughn.

MOZE

Transfer student. Served in the military for a while before deciding she wanted to go to college. Undecided major but she's just trying to focus on the pretty women I mean her grades haha am I right? ALWAYS at Marcus'. Always. Lives with Zane, Amara, and FL4K.

FL4K

FL4K has Mr. Chew, Broodless and Meat-Thief as emotional support animals. I can see FL4K as a double major in zoology and veterinary medicine. Loves their pets. Super chill unless you speak badly about them or their pets. Will shank a bitch. Lives with Zane, Moze, and Amara.

AMARA

Healthcare studies major, with a focus on pathology. Also a bodybuilder. Also a boxer. Amara is that girl and she knows it. Always asking Moze to work out with her and she is completely oblivious to Moze being head over heels. Will fight someone being mean to a customer service worker. Lives with Zane, Moze, and FL4K.

ZANE

Pop pop went back to college! No but in this AU Zane is probably older than everyone but not that much older. His major was tough for me, but I honestly think he'd be a good candidate for a major in rehabilitation science with Axton. Also LOVES parties.

WAINWRIGHT JAKOBS

His Father wanted him to go into Business to take over the family legacy but he decided to go into law to "protect the little guy". Has daily arguments with this stuck-up, pretentious "harpy" that's in most of his classes. She's awful. Has a crush on this well-spoken man in zoological studies. At least that will take his mind off of the harpy.

TROY CALYPSO

Troy is a media and communications major. Has a fantastic time making videos and being admin of many social media pages but doesn't do very well in class because he dislikes most of his professors. Has a very close relationship with his sister, Tyreen.

TYREEN CALYPSO

Double major in Art History and Theater. Loves to be the center of attention and often stars in her brother's videos and projects. She loves it. A little full of herself. Close with her brother, Troy.

TYPHON DELEON

OKAY WAIT WAIT DON'T CLOSE THE POST HEAR ME OUT.

Cringe boomer history professor that can be easily distracted by him telling his stories of his many adventures (no one knows if they're true or not). Troy and Tyreen's Father. NOT a piss poor Dad in this AU, just embarrassing as all hell. Pretty decent guy but he's okay as a professor. (Please guys let me have my "Typhon is a good cringe embarrassing boomer dad to the Calypsos" AU)

OKAY this was a really long post and I probably forgot someone but I'm sure I'll hear about it LMAO. Also I don't know every single college major and its appropriate title, I just went off of vibes. Pls be nice 2 me

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sanzosin · 2 years

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Reach for the stars!

Someone asked for Timothy ? i mean Jack...

#borderlands pre sequel #timothy lawrence #handsome jack #doppleganger #quick sketch #elpis

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evilhorse · 1 year

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Captain America #155

#captain america #William burnside #bucky #jack monroe #red skull #doppleganger #secret origins #the falcon #falcon #sam wilson #marvel comics #comics #70s comics #bronze age comics

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armedinkblot · 11 months

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#timothy lawrence #borderlands #borderlands the pre sequel #not-jack #the doppleganger

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rubberduckyrye · 2 months

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I like using Occam's Razor when I theory-craft, because often the simplest answer is the best solution.

But man does it sometimes lead to the most BORING answer known to man.

#Jacks showed me a conversation relating to Alter Ego Gonta #and for a while the comment in question had my mind reeling and coming up with tragic ideas to explain it #and then I remembered #“Oh wait. I don't think Alter Ego Gonta is aware what it means to be just an AI/is aware he's not just the original Gonta. He considers--”#“--Himself and the Real Gonta as separate entities. That means ofc he would be alarmed and concerned when this 'doppleganger' knows about--#“--Him murdering Miu.”#Anyway that answer is so much more boring tho #AU where Miu Gonta and Kokichi all saw the Secret of the Outside World Together #And came up with the murder plan #All three of them coming to the conclusion that Gonta would be the least suspected #and Kokichi would be the most suspected since everyone fucking hates him and thinks he's always up to no good #thus leaving Miu to be the victim #The idea of Miu /setting up her own murder/ is such an interesting concept and the /tragedy/ of it all is even better #and I was very much enjoying that rabbit hole before I realized “Wait. Not only are there lots of plot holes to fill with this but this--”#“--assumes AE Gonta identifies with Real Gonta as himself--which he doesn't.”#Anyway yeah the pains of Occam's Razor #Sometimes the simplest answer really is the best option #Sometimes it's the most boring option tho

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doctorslippery · 10 months

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(via Spider-man Villains - Patreon Collab by PatrickBrown on DeviantArt)

Saw this on Reddit with the question, if the Green Goblin didn’t exist who would be Spidey’s arch-nemesis?

While I’d think Venom or Doc Ock, it would be awesome if it were the Human Fly.

Course, when I was a kid, I always thought Doctor Octopus was his arch-enemy.

#shocker #lizard #dr octopus #kraven the hunter #sandman #rhino #green goblin #jack o'lantern #venom #carnage #doppleganger #mysterio #taskmaster

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vitamntea · 1 year

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Modern day Ivyfrost prolly off to some ice skating date or something for the holidays. Had to have them matching fits.

This was actually referenced from a couple I follow on Instagram who I find look insanely similar to Kiara and Jack in real life. Does anyone else see what I see? 👀

#kiaraivy #jackfrost #character art #oc #jiaraship #ivyfrost #jack frost #lovers #jackfrostxkiaraivy #rotg jack frost #rotg #doppleganger #why do they look so similar

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spynorth · 2 years

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Soho has ever been one of the agent’s least favorite places - it thrums with an energy and press of bodies that might have once been comforting, an offer of escape when the ever present feeling of being watched that skitters up his spine digs its claws in a bit deeper .. but now it is seen for nothing more than it is. Nothing more than a corner of Westminster that offers crowds the promise of an afternoon’s entertainment or a night spent drinking away one’s demons... laughter and the low hum of conversation beckon from various doorways, the atmosphere within doing its best to lure another potential customer into it’s depths .. but the illusion of safety holds no charm for a man who has long since stopped believing in such a thing. Collar pulled up tight against the overcast sky and threat of rain, Lucas scans the people around him, searching for familiar features with blue eyes that flicker from one face to another with quick dismissal.

His target, when he finds him, appears relaxed enough - tight lines that have always decorated Jack’s expression seem to have grown deeper, and for a single moment the mi5 agent is hit with a memory of heat and dancing flame, the faint acrid scent of smoke seemingly carried on a gust of wind. There had been something else too.. something that now exists at the edge of his thoughts...one of the men that had been with him, the one that started the spark that grew into a raging inferno, had complained later of the smell of charred bodies. He had been fairly certain the man had been making it up, had more than likely had his fair share to drink to make such a job palpable ... but sometimes, woken in the middle of the night by one ghost or another, Lucas would catch a whiff of that sickly, sweet scent that Alan had described. He sometimes wonders if the other man had been haunted by it too, if that’s what led to a series of mistakes so idiotic they almost had to be purposeful - a self sought end at their master’s hands as some form of justice. In the end, he knows it doesn’t matter. Whatever his reasons, Alan is dead ... and Lucas is not ready for that trip underground just yet.

Expression morphs from impassive disinterest to casual surprise as he eats up the last few paces between them, folding himself into a chair across from the other man as if he is an old friend that requires no invite. Blue eyes study the younger man, weighing the marks that thirteen years have left on him - Jack had always considered himself destined for something greater, had fancied himself a bird easily carried by the wind from one adventure to the next .. and for a moment Lucas wonders if he still lives in such a fantasy, or if he’s grown to learn that every man hits the bars of his cage eventually.

“You’ve always had a flair for the dramatic. Should have known I wouldn’t find you retired and reading a book in some library somewhere. ” One brow arches, gaze flickering to take in their surroundings before returning to the younger man’s face once more. Weight shifts as he leans back into the chair, long legs crossing one over the other and brows squinting against the sun that peeks out from the cover of clouds just long enough to shine upon Jack Sparrow as if he’s the chosen one he believes himself to be. Maybe he is, a voice whispers. But even chosen ones can fall .. and it’s my job to ensure this one does as well.

The words when they come are a rumbling baritone, a slow and easy slide between them as if the two men are nothing but friends discussing the weather and the mi5 agent allows the barest hint of smile to tug at one corner of his mouth. “I had heard you managed to weasel your way out of one problem right into another ... assumed that if you survived that one maybe you’d take a break from trying to change the world for a while. But you’ve never been one for common sense.” A woman looks at him questioningly from the door to the cafe they’re nearest and he waves her away with a casual flick of one hand - he has no plans to stay for a drink or three. This visit is nothing more than a warning between old friends, a way to delve into the waters and see how much is broken from before and what it will cost Lucas to repair it in order to tumblr it into hell once more.

“I was asked to look into something that’s caught mi5′s attention. Seems like somethings got a few of our higher ups worried. A dead end trail of nothing but whispers and the occasional bread crumb dropped from the grips of sloppy detectives in scotland yard. And unfortunately for you, Jack - those crumbs lead right to your door.” Silences stretches between them, a few beats of quiet that the agent allows in hopes that his unspoken message will sink in.. and when he next speaks, Lucas drowns the words with as much concern as they can carry. “You could have stayed gone, Jack. Kept low and lived that life of freedom you were always on about. Instead you’re all but coming back from the dead and if it’s discreet you’re after .. you’ve allied yourself with the wrong people.”

@trickstercaptain s.c

#trickstercaptain #verse tag ;#L I STEN sjhfjfh this got so long but im excited ok #also i know it sounds like lucas 100% knows something but i think he's either #a) fishing for info and doesnt actually know shit #or #b) someone possibly who is also in the met mentioned somehting about killian being sus #and lucas checked it out and sees that killian is hanging out with jack and is like are u serious :||#so now hes just trying to see where the chips might fall before he reports to beckett maybe??#idk idk.#also if you want jack to *know* he has ties to beckett thats totally cool or he can just suspect or whatever #im sorry this is 80 million words long i got into it lmaoo #also i tried to incorporate a lot from jack's backstory for this verse since they have a history so i mentioned the fire etc #i hope thats ok!!#me casually ignoring that lucas looks exactly like guy: its fine. its fine. dopplegangers are a thing

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nerdpoe · 1 year

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Body Double? You mean Double Trouble.

Jack Fenton has a weird job. It pays well enough to fund his family's ghost research, and he only has to run to Gotham like, four times a year.

What's his job?

Body Double.

His job is to drop everything and attend galas as Brucie Wayne when Brucie Wayne calls.

He's a natural born idiot, he's a meta (though he doesn't know that, but yeah the man has durability and super strength), and even though he's a little carefree he knows how to follow the rules.

do not use exorbitant amounts of strength

do not talk about ghosts

keep up with socialite news, Bruce will have an email sent to him once every month or so.

have bare minimum knowledge of Wayne Industries, Bruce will send in emails once a month or so regarding massive changes.

act like he's drinking a lot of alcohol, but keep a clear head.

do not sleep with anyone

So Jack does a pretty good job-slap the man in an armani suit, do some contouring, and he's a literal identical doppleganger of Bruce Wayne.

But there was an incident, way back in the day, when he'd been called in while on his honeymoon. He'd come in already tipsy and had forgotten to take it into account, and had fallen in bed with another woman.

Luckily, Maddie forgave him after he explained that he'd thought it was her, and the woman never brought it up, and no one saw "Brucie Wayne" stumble off with a strange woman.

Fast forward, and Tim is running his DNA to leave something on the Batcomputer in the event of a clone or shapeshifter, when there's a hit.

That's how Tim finds out that not only does Bruce have a body double for galas when none of them can show up at all, but also that said body double is his actual father.

He's an older brother to a young Jasmine Fenton and Daniel Fenton. He has a whole-ass family out there that he didn't know about.

They seem a little crazy, but eh. He's from Gotham, he's seen worse.

#dcxdp #dpxdc #dc x dp #dp x dc #story prompt

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parsleysaauce · 13 days

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Wild card tmagp theory: Celia did a Darrien and killed her protocol universe doppleganger. And maybe Jack is actually her doppleganer’s kid, which is why she doesn’t know who his dad is

#I am throwing darts with a blindfold on rn #I refuse to believe that Jack is just like a normal child #but mama Celia does make me very happy <3 #tmagp #tmagp 17 #tmagp spoilers #the magnus protocol #the magnus protocol spoilers #tmagp theory

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vaulthunterlands · 8 months

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I remember when they first announced "Jack" as a playable character in TPS way back when. And I'm not positive, but I'm PRETTY SURE they played it up as if this was THE Jack. Like, Handsome Jack, not a double.

And I remember HATING that when I first saw it.

My reasoning was that the entire thing about Jack was that he was a coward who didn't do the dirty work, he manipulated others to do it for him (and then took all the credit, as seen in the opportunity hall of truth or whatever it was called) so yeah little 13 year old V was ranting and raving about how adding Jack would ruin the continuity and the character

Then we got Tim and I think the doppelganger is one of the smartest ideas for a playable character in Borderlands

#borderlands #borderlands 2 #borderlands the presequel #handsome jack #timothy lawrence the doppleganger

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in--somnium · 2 years

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((Definitely gonna be adding some of my Bord.erlan.ds muses back when I have time. Maya. Nisha. Jack. Rhys. Timothy. Maybe Amara and/or Gaige? Haven't decided on those two yet. I just wanna get faceclaims for 'em (feel free to let me know if you have suggestions lol).

ANYWAY- with that said, I need it to be known that, considering his character, I've got no intention of actually shipping with Jack. Like, we can plan out some toxic relationship stuff if you really wanna... But post TPS especially he's literally just awful and relationships are unlikely to work (unless he's with another equally awful person, like his relationship with Nisha 😅). So, uh, you wanna write with this bastard? Cool. Go right ahead! But you wanna SHIP with him and expect him to be a good boyfriend or whatever? Nope. He's the worst. He's never gonna care about your muse as much as he cares about himself and his goals. It's just not gonna happen. I've dimmed his character down for shipping before and it always feels wrong, so no compromises this time!

Anyway- crossovers and ocs will be very welcome bc I dunno if anyone writes in this fandom anymore, anyway 😅))

#ooc.#((I HATE JACK. But I love writing him so ya know 😅))#((If I choose a fc for Jack and y'all are like 'damn. i wanna ship with that fc' for some reason #bother Tim instead. same fc (bc he's a ''doppleganger'' for Jack)#but less absolutely god awful))#((Also I'll be home in like 4 hours give or take then work out and shower before I'm on.#But I don't have to be in to work until 1 tomorrow so I'll be around tonight probably :) ))

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evilhorse · 1 year

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What did you say!?

#captain america #the falcon #falcon #sam wilson #bucky #jack monroe #doppleganger #racist #ugh #steve englehart #sal buscema #marvel comics #comics #70s comics #bronze age comics

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justlostintheinternet · 14 days

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HERE IS MY RAMBLING CONCERNING TMAGP 17

Spoilers under the cut of course

Disclaimer: I spent 2 hours on this post making theories up as I went. It's probably not making sense in some ways but at this point I just want to finish it because even if it was fun to write I'm kind of too tired of it to reread it for typos and everything. Please feel free to point out things that do not make sence and make your own theories (I love reading them and will probably reply but I'm just done at the moment), but I won't change anything on this post because I don't want to spend another 2 hours or more theorising.

Okay so there a lot happening in this episode... Let's talk about Today's "Protagonist" statement, Darrien.

Statement and Research assessment for candidate PD553 Magnus Institute – Oxford Outreach Centre. Private and confidential. Viability as subject – low Viability as agent – low Viability as catalyst – low Recommend continued incarceration as part of Welling Mutare Materia research program.

The Magnus institute makes a comeback ! In this document, Darrien is said to be a candidate, not a patient, not a suspect, a candidate.

And with it's viability on everything, I'm part of the people convinced TMAGP Magnus Institute served the same purpose as the Institute for TMA.

Viability as catalyst - For me, a catalyst would be the tipping point to send the world into an apocalypse, (so the equivalent of Jon/the Archivists).

Viability as agent – For the Agents, I think this would be more like the Assistants in TMA. Here to "help" the catalyst reach the goal of the Institute. Or also maybe something kind of similar to the Externals of the OIAR, to take care of "nuisances" Viability as subject – I'm a bit more lost considering the subjects. But it could perhaps be "Test subjects", in a trying artefacts and spooky powers on them way ? This is the one I'm less certain about.

One question I'm wondering, is the Magnus Institute still fully Eye aligned, perhaps being more controled by the Web, or since the fears have been said to be more muddled in TMAGP (Said by Jonny or Alex if I'm right), just wanting to bring the apocalypse without any perticular Fear getting more control ?

Coming back to Darrien.

He got caught, probably having Sharon tipping the institute off (With a Statement perhaps ? Having your violent boss mysterious half-brother/doppleganger killing him and taking his place would probably work as a statement)

I’ve lived Darien’s life for four years now. It wasn’t as hard as you’d think, turns out your world and mine are pretty similar.

The whole statement makes me think of the woman in TMA with Hill Top Road, who 'slipped' into another world.

And of course, of the person classifying this statement, our dear Celia.

The Case finishes and CELIA considers it for a moment. ALICE is sat nearby working with headphones on. CELIA (to computer) Thanks, I guess. Not exactly the same is it? ALICE (removing earbuds) What's up? Got a good one? CELIA Nothing useful. ALICE (returning earbuds) I mean when are they ever? CELIA True. Beat. She sighs. CELIA CONT. (to herself) True.

I have to admit first, one of the first thoughts that came to mind on the Celia situation after this episode was "She didn't kill her other self to steal her son and her place, right ?"

But, this part makes me think otherwise

Thanks, I guess. Not exactly the same is it?

Not exactly the same, so I'm more of the opinion that she relates more to the 'getting stuck in another world' part rather then the 'murdering your other self'.

The baby, Jack could have came from her pre-TMA apocalypse life, which could explain the lack of father (hard to ask for child support from a man you don't remember in another world (if she is the same Celia as in TMA, and don't even remember her own name, Id say it's not too far fetched that she might not remember a significant other), with the pregnancy perhaps having been halted from progressing by the domains, a cryptic pregnancy or just something that wasn't mentioned in the TMA episodes or more simply, it could be a one night stand that lead to nowhere in TMAGP world.

Now at this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that Celia came to work in the OIAR looking for information, on how she came to this world or the reason she seems to sleepwalk.

Talking about her sleepwalking accidents, she woke up next to an highway and on the tracks of a train. Now I wonder why whatever is trying to kill her by putting her in dangerous situations, because I don't think normal sleepwalking takes you to Oxford.

Writing this I realised the document mentionned Oxford Outreach Center as some kind of a branch of the Magnus Institute, and it's also mentioned as a place where the rich Darrien had gone to university.

So there the possibility that something is trying to kill her (perhaps because she doesn't belong in this world), but also she could be attracted to some kind of place ?

LOOKING BACK TO HILL TOP ROAD ON GOOGLE MAPS I REALISED THAT

1: It's located in Oxford

2: There is multiple universities around it

So she could be attracted to Hill Top Road because there might be some kind of pull to it for people from other universes. Because at this point I don't think her and Darrien are the only ones that ended up in another universe.

Anyway, there was a new receptionist behind the old front desk, some big, soft looking guy who stumbled over every word. A year ago, it would have probably wound me right up but what can I say? Therapy works. There was another patient too, some bookish-looking guy with serious city miles. I used to play the game “what are you in for” where I would pass the time guessing… well, you know. In my head he was definitely some kind of weird pervert, really into stroking orchids or something. Thinking back, I almost wonder if the same thing happened to them… Do you know? Would you even tell me if you did?

This feels a LOT like a red hearing, I can almost hear Jonny and Alex cackling knowing we would freak out about those descriptions. I want JonMart to be okay, but I think they could just be lookalikes of TMA Jmart. Or just alternate universe versions of Jon and Martin because i'm still dead set on the TMA Jon, Martin and Jonah are stuck in the putter theory.

If I'm following the dopplegangers we have here, Darrien ended up with his other self and killed him. Celia (aka probably TMA Lynne Hammond), couldn't remember her own name, so it could probably be difficult to track her TMAGP self (who would probably still be name Lynne since Celia only lost her name in the apocalypse) if she has one, suffer from sleepwalking that tries to kill her/bring her back to Hill Top Road.

Could something try to eliminate doppegangers so there is only one left in a universe ? And since Celia can't find TMAGP Lynne, something could try to make things "right" by killing one the double.

#tmagp spoilers #tmapg theory #tmagp 17 #tmagp celia #the magnus protocol #magnus protocol #tmagp #some of those theories probably don't make any sense #but I have been on this post for 2 hours #And my brain love making connections out of nowhere #So enjoy :)

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You Find Yourself on a Chessboard

There is a boy sitting across the table from you, balancing a coin on edge.

The boy has your face.

"Order and chaos are two sides of the same coin," says the boy. He flicks the side of the coin, and it spins across the table like a top. It comes to a stop in front of you, still spinning, right between and in front of where your hands grip the table.

"Oh?" you say. You aren't sure what else to say. "How so?"

"Think about it. What is, in your opinion, the ultimate expression of chaos?"

You watch the coin continue to spin. Part of you wants to smack it down. A stronger part of you is curious. You want to see how long it will spin. And you've never been good at denying your curiosity, anyway.

"Entropy," you say, finally.

The boy nods. "Disorder. Ultimate disorder. And the end. The universe in its ground state. But it's called the law of entropy, isn't it?”

"That's only a convention. Nature doesn't call it anything."

The boy waves a negligent hand. "Entropy. The end. The heat death of the universe. A universe where everything is the same, everywhere, forever. Doesn't that sound like order."

"Maybe," you allow, but, at this point in the conversation, you have more important questions. Even if you would like to continue a conversation that has to do with space. "I know I'm dreaming."

"Do you? That explains some things."

"I practice. But I didn't come up with you. Who are you? And why are you here?"

"Order and chaos." The boy tilted his head. "You're taking this much better than the others."

"What others?"

You are sitting at a table. Across from you is something that looks like you, something wearing your face. It is opening a pack of cards, short neat nails exactly the color of yours tear through plastic and start to pick at the sticker holding the box closed.

You can't take this anymore. You stand and slam your hands down on the table.

"Who are you?" you demand. "Where am I?"

The thing across from you looks up, and you feel relieved it got the eyes wrong, until you remember - mirrors. It doesn't have anything wrong at all.

"You've been dealt a bad hand, haven't you?"

"What?"

The thing looked back down at the box of cards and finally got them open. The paper rectangles slid out into its hand, and it started shuffling them. "Did you know, there are more than eight times ten to the sixty-seventh different combinations for a deck of cards? That's fifty-two factorial, by the way."

You narrow your eyes and cross your arms. You are feeling for the wires under your skin, but they lie quiescent. Unresponsive.

"Why have you brought me here?"

"It's sort of ordered chaos. Card games, I mean. Chaos from order. Or order from chaos. You're aiming more for the second one."

"Answer my question, ghost."

"You have every right to be angry." It slid a card from the top of the deck and flipped it over. The king of clubs. "Racism." It drew another card, the queen of hearts. "A missing mother." The ten of diamonds. "Poverty." The jack of spades. "A doomed love. And then there's you." It revealed one more card, the ace of diamonds. "All alone. But you are what you need to make a bad hand a good one." It rearranged the cards, lightning fast.

The hand it dealt was a straight, you realize. Not the best hand, but not a low one, either.

"So… the question is, which side are you going to choose?"

"Side?"

There is a chessboard in front of you, ready for a new game, all the pieces set up. The white pieces are on your side.

Seated in the white velvet chair across from you is your doppleganger. It smiles, all your own cunning and trickery reflected back at you full force.

“Fancy a match?” the doppleganger asks, gesturing to the board.

“What is the meaning of this?” you ask. You are, you notice as your hands curl around armrests, sitting in a black leather chair. The room you are in has no visible doors. It also doesn’t feel like a proper room, and you have to wonder what part of the Ghost Zone you are in.

“Chess?” your double asks, deliberately misunderstanding. “It doesn’t particularly have a meaning, except as a diversion, an entertainment. Or do you mean the metaphor?”

You stand and throw the board, table and all, to one side in a single, powerful motion. “I’m not in the mood,” you say. “You must know who you are dealing with. So, why have you brought me here? What are you playing at?”

Your doppelganger laughs. You grit your teeth. You’re a billionaire, a public figure. You’ve heard yourself recorded more times than you can count. But your laugh can’t possibly sound like this, can it?

"It's one thing applied to your young rival, but for you it's different, is that it?" The doppelganger smirked. "It's about applying order to chaos - your order. No one else's."

You've had quite enough of this, and you reach for your other side, your other half, your ghost--

It doesn't come.

The doppelganger laughs again and stands. They put both hands on your chest.

"I hope you have fun," they say. "The other players are ready."

Then they push you and you fall back into the dark.

The first thing you notice is that you are no longer wearing your own clothes. The next thing is that you’re lying down and not particularly comfortable. The third is that the coin the other-you had earlier is still spinning, hovering an inch or so over your palm.

So. You get up. Look around. Resist the urge to swear, because you’re not that kind of a hero, and if you get into the habit you know you’ll never stop.

The ground is stone. Marble. Big squares of alternating black and white, like a chessboard. It’s also shaped, molded into hills and valleys and even some fairly convincing trees. You can see a castle in the distance.

You must, you reasons, be somewhere in the Ghost Zone.

Not that that really helps all that much. They’re called the Infinite Realms, not the Easily Navigable Backyard.

Still. The chess theme makes you feel uneasy. Will you be expected to fight someone?

You hear a sound behind you and turn.

The first thing you see is Danny. He is standing, holding something cupped between his hands, looking away across the checkerboard hills. He is wearing all black, loose clothes, topped by a soft, round, almost spherical hat.

You must make some kind of sound, because he turns to face you, and you can see, now, that the thing in his hand is a silver coin, levitating, spinning, in the palm of his left hand. He looks at you in surprise, blue eyes bright against the monochrome features of this place.

“Oh,” says Danny, softly, “Valerie. I guess it was you they were talking about?”

“Someone was talking about me?”

“Sort of. There was… I guess they must have been a shapeshifter or something, because they looked just like me. They said there were others. So, you, and I guess there must be someone else?”

“Not with me,” you say. “What are you wearing?”

“Don’t know. Just woke up with it. I guess it’s the same for you?”

You look down at yourself. You haven’t done so since you first… appeared here. You’re wearing red, vibrant and garish. The color distracts you, momentarily, from the fact that it’s in a military cut.

You are holding the deck of cards in your left hand. You drop the cards in surprise, but, to your dismay, they scatter back into your hand.

Danny stares at the cards in mild… She isn’t sure what to call the expression, but it isn’t surprise.

His head jerks up, suddenly, and an expression of disgust passes over his face. You turn to see Vlad Masters, all in white. A cape snaps behind him, although there is no wind. You feel your lips curl as well.

You look down at the two teenagers, your disdain matching theirs.

“Daniel,” you say.

“Vlad,” he spits back.

Valerie Gray says nothing. You aren’t sure what you’ve done to earn her enmity. Perhaps she still has some hard feelings regarding that mess with Danielle despite seeming to accept your explanation.

“Well,” you say into the silence. “It would appear we are on opposite sides, Daniel.”

“Don’t give me that,” says Daniel. “You don’t know what’s going on any more than we do. Do you really want to start fighting us when there could be so many other enemies out there?”

The coin spinning in Daniels hand stops for a split second, a winking head catching your eye. Of course, Daniel didn’t notice at all, too busy glaring up at you.

“Oh,” you say. “Of course I didn’t mean that we should cooperate with whatever horrible ghosts put us here. But I am certain there’s a reason you are black and I am white. This is a chessboard, after all.”

“Or a checkerboard. Val’s in red.”

“Of course she is.” That is the color of her suit, after all.

“And,” says Daniel, as if scoring a grand point in the ongoing and very one-sided battle of wits the two of you engage in, “you’re the only one carrying a chess set. Colors mean different things in cards.”

“Or blind luck?” you sneer at his coin.

Daniel falls silent, the coin flashes tails. Then a flower. How many sides does it have?

“Maybe. But considering the circumstances, I think you could use some luck, don’t you?”

You survey your surroundings. “Well. Yes. I suppose so. Now… I believe we should go that way.” You point to a castle you see in the distance, one that shines a gleaming white. You don’t know anything about it, but seizing control of the situation early on is important.

“No,” says Valerie, crossing her arms. “You don’t know anything about ghosts, right?” Her eyes flicked to Danny.

Oh, trying to use a witness to manipulate you? How precious.

“I did work with Daniel’s parents, my dear.”

“I don’t think we should go near the ghost castle,” insists Valerie.

“I agree,” says Daniel, quickly. “We should try to find a small group of people first. Something we can handle. Castles have armies. We don’t want to deal with a hostile one.”

A white castle being more likely to be friendly to a fellow man in white, you would generally disagree. However, Daniel and Valerie trying to leverage each other against you is amusing. So, you’ll play their little game for a while longer.

You nod.

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