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crystallizedday · 7 months
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So I have no idea if anyone else has made a post like this already, but at this point, I’m gonna EXPLODE if I don’t get this out of my system.
This has been haunting my brain for WEEKS & I am NOT having it.
So
Ice Marcy.
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Lil angel.
DEFINITELY a result of Marceline dying at some point.
I mean, we have the Winter King telling Simon he can ALWAYS make an Ice Betty if Simon misses her so much, & while he SAYS that he’s joking & states how such a thing is clearly unethical…
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Let’s be honest…
Bro’s a fuckin hypocrite saying that.
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I mean, what he did to PB is fuckin unethical as hell, so if he’s morally fine with THAT, what’s stopping him from coping with the death of a loved one by making a living ice replica of them?
Anyway, a bunch of people already agree with that shit anyway, so that’s not what I’m here to address.
I’m here to talk about the when & how of the situation.
Cause I’ve seen a lot of people assuming Marcy died at a very young age due to her appearance as a child in her ice form & this “flashback” scene from WK’s song.
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But that just cannot be the case.
Why?
Marceline’s bass.
Her bass (that in actuality is just a fuckin ax) is a family heirloom that once belonged to Hudson.
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She only acquired possession of it to modify it into a bass once she met Hudson AFTER Simon had left her for good in her adolescence(?).
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This means she COULDN’T have died during the apocalypse phase of Ooo.
So when could she have died?
Well, while a ton of people speculate it was right before or even right after the Winter King’s transformation into himself, I believe it was sometime AFTER, just not quite right away.
Cause ya gotta remember:
Marcy & Bonnie weren’t talking for HUNDREDS of years after their breakup.
& they only started hanging out again about two decades earlier from where we are in the present, which is still FAIRLY RECENT.
As Simon states in the episode, the Winter King had cursed PB ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
This means she & Marceline were STILL not on speaking terms by the time she got cursed.
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HOWEVER
As we see in the very first Adventure Time finale, right before our two favorite lesbians kiss, Marcy admitted she was still TERRIFIED that PB would get hurt WHILE they weren’t talking.
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So what does this tell us?
Lemme pitch y’all MY take on how Marcy TRULY died.
The Winter King found a way to project his insanity onto Bubblegum, reshaping himself & his kingdom with his newfound lucidity.
Sometime LATER (either soon after or even decades later), Marceline checks up on the situation after seeing the Candy Kingdom absolutely FUCKED & the Ice Kingdom flourishing, sees what happened to the two rulers, slowly puts two & two together, & interrogates the Winter King on it.
Cause like… while it’s awesome to have “Simon” back, Marceline realistically would NOT stand for it to come at the cost of Bubblegum’s sanity. Even if their relationship was still rocky, she still CARED about Bonnie & her safety.
She demanded the Winter King to undo this, telling him what he was doing was MONSTROUS…
But at some point, whether intentionally or unintentionally…
He did it.
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HE killed her.
Either to stop her from reversing the spell herself or to get her to shut up so he wouldn’t have to face the fact that what he did was wrong.
He killed her, & felt such an overwhelming sense of guilt that he decided to cope with what he did…
In probably the most fucked up way possible.
As long as she didn’t know the truth, everything can be fine.
& what’s more oblivious & unquestioning than a small, impressionable child?
Much like how PB intentionally made her citizens stupid to avoid conflict :))))))
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Anyway, uh
That is all.
You’re welcome for the heartbreak IWJWOWJWOSKWODK
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thesnakesstuff · 7 months
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Sorry if this is incoherent but some stuff just clicked in my mind about qsmp lore.
So we know that the Feds have been experimenting with hybrids and have raised both Jaiden and Baghera as children.
It's not a stretch to believe that the eggs are the next generation of their experiments, and they are using the players on the island to raise them instead of doing it in labs to see if they get different results.
Jaiden and Baghera are both confirmed to be bird hybrids of some sort, but both don't really have any connection to flight.
I've seen some people headcanon that Baghera's wings are too small, or that Jaiden was never able to learn because she was raised by the Feds. Either way, the Feds haven't found a way to teach their experiments to fly.
What if thats the reason they brought Philza to the island?
In the message they left for him they make a lot of illusions to not just crows and flying, but teaching fledglings to fly.
Philza has mentioned a couple of times that his wings were clipped, and he noticed on the train to the island.
From what I've read crows molt about once a year, alternating between July-October, and June-July. The molt during Jun-July mostly relates to the throat feathers and july has already passed- BUT-
What if Philza is almost done growing out new flight feathers.
If the eggs return, the Federation might get Philza to teach them how to fly.
I imagine the 3 quests a week would be replaced by 1 flight lesson a week. And there would be a little leader board or some kind of incentive instead of the eggs dying if they don't get it done.
Anyways that's my little theory about how the eggs are gonna come back and how philza is gonna get hos wings back lol.
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blehbet · 17 days
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Firefly and Sam / the Past and the Present
Hi. Let's take ibuprofen together. And by 'let's take ibuprofen together', I mean that I have a theory and I am tying you down so that I can rant to you about it.
(Unless you don't want to see spoilers so MAJOR SPOILERS FOR HSR 2.1 AHEAD, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!)
Okay, so. Firefly. It's revealed that Firefly is Sam at the end of the quest.
This theory posits that that is very much the case HOWEVER, it is not Firefly wearing a mech suit like some have speculated. Instead, Sam -- *Sam's body* -- his entire mechanical make, IS Firefly.
From story implications, it's alleged that Sam is a "remnant of Glamoth's Iron Calvary". According to Firmament Frontline: Glamoth's relic set, Glamoth's Iron Cavalry are "genetically engineered warriors that possess superhuman abilities" who fought against the Swarm.
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"In their short lives..." No wonder her name is Firefly...
That aside, this leads me to believe that these so-called warriors did not start out as robots, but were instead manufactured by way of the disease that Firefly suffers from.
Entropy Loss Syndrome.
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I want to emphasise the use of *reality* and *dreams* in this context for my next point. The distinction (or lack thereof) between reality and dreams is fundamental to how the Iron Calvary works. The cavalry was telepathically connected to "Titania", their empress. And according to the Relic Set, these warriors are "woven into dreams." This leads me further on to believe that in order to be woven into dreams, their physical forms have to slowly fade to then occupy and be turned into a mechanical suit that was ultimately built to serve its ruler, and protect its people from the Swarm.
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So how does Firefly appear as she does in the Dreamscape?
I think it's Sam simply dreaming and wishing for the form that they once had. In reality, Firefly has either disappeared entirely OR her body's consciousness has completely detached itself to then occupy the mech.
This is further supported by her leaked lightcone image. It doesn't depict her occupying Sam, instead, she's in some kind of shattered vat (the 'icy medical cabin', if you will). A visual metaphor for the shattering of dreams and reality, perhaps?
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So, TLDR so far: Firefly is Sam. Firefly was a citizen of Glamoth that was turned into a member of the Iron Calvary by way of Entropy Loss Syndrome in an effort to fight back against the Swarm. In the current reality, there's only Sam; Firefly as we see her in the Dreamscape no longer exists. Sam is dreaming of their old 'human' body whenever they enter the Dreamscape.
Now, at this point, you're probably thinking that I'm contradicting myself here by brushing over the 'icy medical cabin' possibility. Right now with what we know so far, it's only feasible either Firefly no longer physically exists OR she does, but she's trapped. But, stick with me, I'm going to explain how it's possible that both outcomes can 'co-exist'.
In Act 1 of the quest, it seemed like Sam and Firefly were in conflict with each other at one point. At first, I thought this was also evidence that goes against this theory. However -- this opens up an interesting possibility as to how these two interact in the Dreamscape. Firefly acts as the younger and possibly more idealistic version of Sam who brashly charges forth to achieve her goals, meanwhile Sam is Sam, the Stellaron Hunter and seasoned warrior with more experience under his belt.
Now, who runs in parallel to this possible narrative? Who have we, as players, *directly seen* go through an eerily similar Dreamscape experience?
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From Aventurine's POV, we actively got to see this process of a person's Past and Present interacting in the Dreamscape.
Meanwhile with Firefly, we only saw glimpses of the process in Act 1 and the results of it in Act 2. It's possible that at the end of Act 2, the Past and Present of Firefly / Sam had come to accept each other and were now ready to confront the Trailblazer, much like how Aventurine had to accept his Past and Future in order to go through with his big gamble at the end of his arc.
So, back to the 'icy medical cabin' contradiction. The Firefly that has manifested in the Dreamscape is a Past version of Sam that was in the process of being turned into a Iron Calvary soldier.
Kakavasha's behaviour supports this notion too, given how he reacts to the Dreamscape in ways that would make sense to him in his current state of mind at the time of being a child.
This possibility also has the potential to explain a lot of what Sam was talking about here...
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Is it also possible that these "11 times" he's referring to was Sam's attempts to save his Past self from 'dying' in the Dreamscape? Living vicariously through her, only to find out she was fated to be destroyed from the very beginning?
Another fun bonus! Doesn't help either that both Aventurine and Firefly have experienced 'Death' in the Dreamscape. It's as if the Dreamscape is allowing those who die in its grasp a final glimpse of their life.
"Life is flashing before their eyes" when they "Die" in the Dreamscape.
Anyways. Firefly transmasc canon is also what I'm trying to say YIPPEEE THANKS FOR READING IF YOU'VE COME THIS FAR, MWAH
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cosmere-cat · 1 year
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Had a thought I hadn't considered before:
Hoid becoming a lightweaver specifically means he has a lot of lies surrounding him
Now of course it's a given that he hides his identity and is generally pretty mysterious, of course in addition to being a storyteller which the cryptics view as beautiful lies
But I don't think either would really be enough; after all, he will have to say Truths - which are, the way I've been reading it, Truths that you hide most of all from yourself; Lies that you tell yourself. And I think those are really the ones cryptics are really drawn to (Otherwise it may have been not Elhokar, but Sadeas, for example, who they'd have followed around).
What is this ancient omnipresent immortal lying to himself about???
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anoddworld · 1 month
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SPOILERS FOR 2.1 STORY QUEST AND PENACONY
hey…. Remember how Gallagher said that Mikhail, the Watchmaker, died obscurely? And the first time we entered the dreamscape? And the first time we entered the dreamscape hotel? And how Misha was calling out to Mikhail, begging him not to leave? Yeahhhh…
I am, like, 99% sure Misha was the last person to see Mikhail alive. And that hurts my heart bc… LOOK AT MISHA!! HE’S JUST A LITTLE BABY TT^TT
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calextheneko · 3 months
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Hazbin Hotel: Alastor and Husk Theories
This is nothing serious. Just me thinking about what the exact deal that went down between Alastor and Husk is. We know that Husk used to be an overlord, and that he made some kind of deal with Alastor related to being an overlord and gambling that led to his current state of being powerless and completely under Alastor's control. We never really saw how powerful he was as an Overlord, but getting that title isn't something you do if you're a light weight so he had to once command considerable influence and power before meeting Alastor and gambling away all souls owned before losing his own soul in a deal with Alastor. As far as I can tell the only clue we're given to the exact nature of the deal beyond gambling being involved is him singing in Loser Baby "I sold my soul just to keep my power." Implying it was some attempt to keep his power and possibly status as an Overlord. But obviously, that didn't happen considering he commands no noticeable amount of power or respect now.
So I've got three theories.
Theory 1: Husk was tricked. He thought he was making a deal that would retain his power, but it wound up robbing him of everything because he didn't properly understand the terms. It does seem like Alastor is very good at entrapping people in deals to the point Charlie is warned and believes she can't make any deals with Alastor whatsoever because it's likely to be a trap of some kind, so entrapping people seems to be his normal thing.
Theory 2: Husk made a deal and understood the terms, that he did get to keep his overlord powers from it. BUT! Now because Alastor owns his soul he's under orders that he can't disobey to not use his powers and can only ever use them if Alastor gives him the ok first, forcing him to currently live as if he had no power at all.
Addendum to Theory 2: Might have powers related to gambling that allow him to win, based on the cheater note in Loser Baby song, he might still have access to gambling based powers based on the fact he was winning big in the pilot before Alastor showed up.
Theory 3: This is currently the theory, that were I a betting man I would bet is the correct one. Alastor challenged Husk to gambling for souls, Husk being an expert gambler agreed, but Alastor beat him at his own game. When Husk had lost all the souls under his domain, Alastor offered him and all or nothing round where Husk would bet his own soul. Overconfident in his own gambling abilities and his addiction to it, he couldn't resist such a bet that if he won would let him take everything, and accepted a deal to gamble his own soul for the souls he lost and possibly souls Alastor had as well. Lost the gamble, meaning by the terms of the deal his soul belonged to Alastor and he had now lost everything and that's why he has no powers now despite having made a deal to keep his power.
Additional Note on Theory 3: Losing his soul may have saved Husk's life. What did Alastor do? Topple a bunch of overlords and take all their power. This makes Husk yet another Overlord Alastor tackled. Alastor gained some attachment to Husk, and thinks fondly of him, albeit in the terms that someone thinks of a favorite pet, and so instead of killing Husk and broadcasting his screams like the other enslaved him instead. Alternatively, other Overlords were smart enough not to accept a deal that would cost them their soul and then Alastor just killed them instead since there was nothing more to be gained from leaving them alive.
Husk's current situation may suck but there's a pretty high chance if Alastor hadn't gotten complete control over him the radio demon would have killed him again cosigning Husk to oblivion.
I also think Husk is the only person we've seen Alastor use a pet name with, calling him Husker. Which might show him having some attachment to Husk, but not in any way anyone would like. Well, there are probably a few people out there who would enjoy being in Alastor's power. but you get what I mean.
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slice-0f-anime · 1 month
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**SPOILERS FOR LINK CLICK S2**
I had this theory about how lu guang and cheng xiaoshi got their powers.
Well actually, just how cxs got them. I have 0 clue how they first came to be other than people just being born with them.
But essentially, I think lg originally inherited both powers and somehow split it with cxs. Cause this feels like the sort of power that would come as a whole, not half and half, you know? Seeing into the future and past of a photo + jumping into it for 12 hours is definitely a package deal, and besides, it's so unlikely that these two just happened to have these perfectly complimentary powers and just happened to meet their perfect match.
It's almost the same with the Li siblings because their power perfectly compliment each others too, except in their case, those two were twins. People say that twins are like one soul split into two bodies, so it would make sense that their powers were split as well, but then what about lg and cxs?
I suppose a case could be made for cxs originally being the power holder, but it makes way more sense for it to be lg. He seemed to know everything about the diving power while his partner didn't know anything, and needed to be guided pretty often. Like for the surveillance camera hack, lg might only know that because he used to hold the power and knows how to use it.
And this might be a stretch, but it would also explain lu guang getting stabbed and the vision of cxs dying in his arms. Theres a chance that in the original timeline, lg left him alone in the room while he went to save emma, and then qiao ling got possessed and stabbed cxs instead. Then when lu guang comes back, cxs dies in his arms. Filled with grief, lu guang dives back in time and gives cxs the dive power from the start. This would ensure that cxs wouldn't be in the room when the stabbing occured, and lg was probably fully willing to sacrifice himself instead.
Man I love this show so much. Maybe I'm delulu but hey it makes sense!
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perrysoup · 7 months
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Head canon twist:
Ragatha is more right than she realizes and Caine’s weird and insane adventures are literally meant to prevent their corruption and death while looking for a way for them all to escape and striving to do that and the many failures (which we see when he drops the corruption away) has lead him to only be his insane self lest he be forced to to confront the horrors he commits to avoid a worse fate, possibly even stopping his ability anymore to find a solution.
Or he just crazy!
Little column A little column B
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olistar255 · 9 months
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What do you think Leaflings are capable of? they seem to be fine if left underwater, would that be a gameplay thing, or could some perhaps have bits of Blue Pikmin in them? would that imply other hybrids are possible? wings? the White Sage was there for Ages apparently? wonder if they have an extended lifespan? also some have 4 eyes?
Thank you for the questions!! i always appreciate some Pikmin discussion
So… leaflings are a weird case in the Pikmin ecology. As far as i know, they are the only case where what the Onion absorbs directly influences what comes out (which was even already the case in Pikmin 1). We already know Onions' offsprings get influenced by environment and, through evolution, by the DNA of what it absorbs, but leaflings are unique in that Onions doesn't really decompose/recompose the creature, but rather simply attaches Pikmin attributes to the host, rejuvenating them and usually bringing them back from the brink of death.. which is very important.
I believe what sets the leafling apart is that all the people leafified weren't corpses yet, but either in deep sleep, comatose or about to die. Because the Onion may be too weak to decompose still-living creatures (hence why the Pikmin need to kill them first), it skips that phase but still implants the Pikmin seed/Hermikmin in them before spitting them out. I would even assume this was the same process that birthed Ice Pikmin, Rock Pikmin, and Bulbmins.
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Now what does this mean for what leaflings are and are capable of? Well, the logical conclusion is that the leafified person gains Pikmin abilities along with the physical attributes; as seen ingame, the most important one being the ability to breathe PNF-404's air, and like you pointed out also being able to go underwater with no helmet (for the sake of discussion i'll just assume it's a real trait and not just the devs not caring about putting dandori challenges underwater :p)
The idea of leaflings receiving different attributes depending on which Onion transforms them is awesome (and would make for a ton of awesome OC concepts) but i do think those abilities would be limited because the Pikminification is limited. In my opinion, realistically the ability to breathe underwater would just be limited to the blue Hermikmin somewhat adapting the lungs of the host to underwater breathing (more on that later) while the leaves allow air breathing through their stomata. In a similar vein, i assume red leafification would allow for limited resistance to fire because the leaves would somewhat protect the skin, etc.
Not getting the full extent of the Pikmin abilities come with the perk of keeping most of your cognitive abilities (even if you do become dandori-obsessed) and the possibility of reversing the process with glow sap-based medicine.
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Now i want to bring up the relationship between leaflings and time. We only have 2 samples of specimen who have been leafified for a while by the time we find them, Olimar and the Sage leaf, so the following more or less will be on the conjectural side.
First the most obvious part is how these two are much more coherent than recent leaflings; and while we don't have a ton of dialogue for the Sage leaf, we see how he's aware of concepts like pupils, leaving, the outside world, etc., while Olimar suppresses anything unrelated to dandori until we defeat him, so i think it's fair to assume a proportional correlation between time passing and the Pikminification brainrot ceasing.
Secondly - and this is harder to prove given the small sample size -, the older leaflings look closer to normal people than the recent ones, who all have the same body type with freaky eyes.
My theory is that because the Onion's attempt at turning a person fully into a Pikmin fails, those Pikminification effects (simple mindedness, modified organs like the eyes or the lungs) simply wither away with time, with only the beneficial effects sticking with the host: the leaves covering their body.
This is pretty much all i can think about when looking at the leaflings. In short they're a hybrid between a person and a Pikmin, down to how they think. I do wonder, though... Are they truly the result of the Onion failing to do its task completely, or is there some conscious decision behind them? Can the Onion choose to refuse to digest a creature, maybe even because they care about their wellbeing? or are the leaflings a result of strategic evolution? After all, their obsession with dandori is very beneficial for the Pikmin; what's the first rule of dandori any leafling will remind you of when you start a challenge? "Gather and make as many Pikmin as possible..."
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mr-kench · 2 months
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Zygarde the Cryptid
Calling it right now Zygarde is going to be a cryptid in Legends ZA that potentially partakes in some domestic terrorism as they struggle to build Lumios City into a metropolis of the future. Zygarde will not like all this construction of an enormous city in the middle of the region and will mess with its construction. Torn down buildings here, broken machinery there, maybe a collapsed mine or two. All the while people talk about a horde of weird Green Dogs that move faster than anyone has seen breaking things or attacking people, or maybe a giant serpent that scares people off. No one has managed to get a good look at it but it starts causing mistrust of Pokémon within the city and works up both people and Pokémon.
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theladydrgn · 11 months
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OK SO
Theory time
Gabriel says this line
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WHICH YES IS ROMANTIC AF. I mean Aziraphale is definitely thinking of it that way in regards to Crowley.
But I don't think it's meant to be interpreted as romantic from GABE. See, I think Gabe, with his missing memory and all that, is missing more. He's missing the presence of heaven/god, his holy powers, SOMETHING. And (unfortunately for Aziraphale) Aziraphale is the closest to that missing thing he can get to without knowing what, exactly he's looking for
Very curious to see how this all plays out and see if I'm right 👀
Also big shouout to @sylwritesstuff who pointed this out and made me start thinking about it 🥰
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choi-hae · 6 months
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Heyo, more SKZFLIX lore talk below the cut because it's eating at my brain. There's a few things that caught my eye and a couple that I haven't seen people really talking about.
I think it's super clear that our boys can move around through different universes - BUT they don't always know until it's already happening and even then, it's jarring for them. I think what we're seeing in SKZFLIX is Minho knowing he's not where he's supposed to be:
He's shocked to see Felix when he first wakes up/arrives, and has no idea what Felix is talking about when he mentions school things.
He seems off multiple times throughout the video - when Felix agrees to be in the short film & when Seungmin is going over the scene (Hyunjin throws him the basketball). It's like he's spacing out or not really fully involved in what's going on.
Something that also caught my attention is when Felix asks Minho why he wants to be an actor, he takes quite a bit to answer. He might be trying to come up with something because he's a different Minho OR all Minhos have some affinity for acting (On Track Minho was also an actor) - the ability to be free and become anyone he wants (which could also be an analogy for hopping around universes).
I've seen a lot of people confused that Felix didn't exist when he was seen interacting with the other kids - very clearly talking to Jeongin, interacting with Chan, play fighting with Jisung and Hyunjin over the laptop, literally being in the scene they're filming and no one questioning Minho interacting with him - and the simple answer is that he did exist, and then he didn't.
By the end, he's erased from the universe and replaced with another Felix. The easy answer for Minho remembering him when no one else did is because he's not from that universe - he knows about universe hopping - and immediately knows to run to the place where he first arrived, to greet a new Felix. Perhaps that's the spot where everyone enters the universe anew. I'm guessing the other Felix always knew and that's why he was there for Minho when he arrived.
We've been told in the past that Felix is important to the SKZ lore universe. If I'm remembering right, he was described as a compass, always leading down the right path? (please correct me if I'm wrong). He's the one we've seen with the cakes in all these MVs, making the wishes - wishes for a universe where all the kids can be together.
Which brings me to my next point: no matter when or where they are, the kids will always find each other and be together. Similar lines were spoken in the trailer for SKZFLIX. In every universe, there are eight of them and they are together no matter what they're going through.
The biggest indicator of this is the fact that, in this universe, it seems like all the kids don't know each other at the start. We see Chan, Hyunjin, Jeongin, and Changbin are close. They are meeting Jisung and Seungmin for what seems like the first time to team up on this short film. Then they audition Minho and Felix for the film. The film festival is the inciting incident that brings them together in this universe.
Another example of this from a past MV could be Maniac era. In the Oddinary trailer, Felix is meeting all the Maniaced kids as he enters the building and then they turn him into one of them. Then they're complete as eight.
They never leave anyone behind - there is always eight.
One theory that I've seen and quite enjoy is that perhaps Minho did die in an alternate universe of B Me (as opposed to him just having a broken arm, which we see continued in OH), and Felix wishes for him to be alive again. I take this a step further by considering, what if this Felix is tasked with fixing the multiverse? Maybe his job was to introduce Minho to this world and then he "must go back", leaving another confused Felix in his place. Because as we know, there must always be eight.
Again, he's the one we always see blowing out candles, which is insinuated to be him wishing for a better future. "Dreams come to those who truly want them", after all. If you wish hard enough, isn't anything possible?
Some more obvious things:
Blowing out candles and making wishes is clearly some kind of catalyst for switching universes. We've seen that multiple times throughout the Mixtape storyline.
The story itself completely parallels Seungmin's script - "protagonists who come to old friends and must go back", "it's about parallel worlds".
The universes do have similar or repeating elements. In this one specifically, we have Hyunjin stealing Jeongin's coffee milk (as opposed to the reverse in On Track), the basketball scene (B Me), the bus scene (OH), and again blowing out a candle on a cake/making a wish (OH, The View). A lot of their roles on this film crew are also similar to what they were in On Track - Hyunjin is the camera operator, Minho and Jeongin are actors, Chan is sound/boom op.
One last small theory from me:
I believe Hyunjin knows more than he's letting on. He seems to recognize Minho when watching Jisung's application video, when everyone else is supposedly meeting Minho and Felix for the first time. He goes to run after Minho when Minho leaves to find Felix. Perhaps this Hyunjin is also from another universe and remembers making his own hop to this universe.
Realistically, with the confirmation that the boys can go to different universes, we don't know who is in their original universe and who made a hop. We already know there's a universe out there where Jeongin isn’t where he's supposed to be (multiple instances of him in MVs being out of place), so it's not completely out of the question.
These are all my thoughts so far between watching the video a couple times and looking at what people have been saying online. I really love the way SKZ is doing their storytelling, even if it can be a bit confusing. It really just makes me think harder about it all, which I love, and it allows everyone to come up with their own theories, which I also love. Here's hoping Leave will give us some answers once it's released! 😊❤️
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dr-brainrot · 1 month
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Alastor's Time Alive + Deal Theory
You know why it’s important to know who Alastor’s victims were?
Because it’ll explain A LOT.
If Alastor was just another run of the mill serial killer, he probably killed for the thrill coupled with ego, trauma, and untreated psychological issues. His victims either had no connection, or they had a hyper specific trait but they were innocent people. Think Joker.
HOWEVER, let's say Alastor killed not so great people. Rapists, abusers, violent people, etc. I’m imagining a vigilante taking the law into their own hands. Alastor gets a thrill of living the double life while also feeling power over taking out shitty people. This would make sense given what we already see from him in the show. To our knowledge he doesn’t go after lesser sinners unless they cross him, he takes out big overlords, and anyone’s soul he has tied to him doesn't seem physically tethered to him. The souls he has (Husk, Nifty?) appear to live their lives until Alastor calls on them. This is much more humane (for hell) compared to certain overlords we’ve seen (*cough*Valentino*cough*).
So what? Alive Alastor (possibly) kills shitty people, gets a thrill from getting away with it and the power trip, he dies because he was sloppy with one of the bodies, and seems to be continuing his hunt for power and dominance in hell. Why does this change anything?
Because that would make him complex. Instead of just being this serial killer, he’s a serial killer with a vigilante complex and some sort of moral code. 
And him being complex could point to who his deal is with and what his deal could be related to.
When Alastor is freaking out, he mentions “Once I figure out how to unclip my wings.” I don’t think this is alluding to Alastor being an angel (saint? Since he’s human idk if it's an angel), but it might allude to Alastor having a deal with an angel. But who? Haven’t we met all possible angels? Not necessarily.
Where’s Eve?
You’re telling me that the woman who ate the apple, a pretty significant part in bringing evil to earth, Adam’s second wife, is NOWHERE TO BE SEEN??? Yeah, no. 
Adam and Eve are probably estranged, given Adam seems very interested in every other woman except Eve. I’m wondering if Eve would take the role of a 50s trad wife? I think the guilt and shame Lucifer has for being a fallen angel and his hand in bringing evil to the world could be mirrored in Eve, where she tries her best to be the perfect wife, perfect woman, to repent for her mistakes. She’s allowed in Heaven because she begs for forgiveness. 
When the first extermination happens, she probably went down to Hell with Adam, to see what her actions resulted in. She gets to Hell and is shocked with what she sees. She sees sinners, but she also sees how complicated sinners are. They have families, there’s children down here, some sinners are trying to protect their loved ones from the extermination, fearful for their lives. She can’t unsee the human in the sinners.
And then she runs into Alastor, who just so happened to take a stroll to see where all these angels are coming from and wtf is going on??? Eve sees Alastor and she just has this gut feeling about him. A killer sure, but he was as complex as any of the other sinners down here.
So she goes up to him.
She talks with him and thinks that his actions were brutal, but he wasn’t killing anyone who’d be missed. He had a very specific moral code, with twisted execution, and probably grew up in a traumatizing environment. She sees how powerful he is and, while standing in the middle of blood and carnage, she makes a deal with him. She’ll give him some of her angelic powers under the condition that he will be her Hell diplomat, making sure Hell isn’t screwed over completely by Heaven. I feel like Eve would have a soft spot for Hell and its sinners and would feel bad that she got to go to Heaven, even with her sin, while the rest rot in Hell. Alastor 100% agrees because hell yeah more power. Eve’s first order is for Alastor to go down to Earth and make sure there are still sinners coming into Hell, even with the extermination happening. 
So that’s what he does. He’s on Earth making sure souls come to hell for 7 years. Which would make sense of why Alastor knows modern slang in Stayed Gone. Granted he could have heard it in Hell, but he hasn't been in hell for the past 7 years, so how tf would his great depression ass know what a podcast is? I think Heaven would hear the news about Charlie’s hotel (They know about Angel Dust, they’re somewhat aware of the goings on in Hell) but because they thought it was a fruitless plan they didn’t really care, except for Eve. Eve eventually hears about Charlie’s idea and immediately wants to help her, sending Alastor back to hell to keep an eye on her and her hotel. Cue season 1.
This would make sense of why Alastor thought he could take on Adam without angelic weapons. He was already given some angelic powers, surely he’d be strong enough to hold his own! Until he gets his ass handed to him. Cue freak out. 
I think the correlation between Lilith and Alastor both disappearing 7 years ago is just a coincidence, I think Lilith’s deal with Adam is separate from Alastor’s deal with Eve. I have other thoughts on Lilith and Adam’s deal but that’s for another post lol.
And I'm also operating under the impression that the exterminations have been going on for 7 years and not longer, but again that's another post.
I’d love to hear other theories! I’m still on the fence on Eve's motivations, and also her relationship to Lucifer? Like were they actually- uh… bow chika wow wow-ing??? What would that mean for Lucifer and Lilith’s relationship? Is Eve a jealous ex trying to get into the royal hell family??? That would mess up the story we’re told in the beginning, though I doubt the book was written with truth at the forefront (possibly propaganda). Honestly I’m buzzing with theories🤯
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Okay, so I've been having some brain worms/thoughts about Shadowbringers/Endwalker Emet-Selch, Warrior of Light, and lastly, Azem that keep me up at night and I'd like to just theory-craft/spew these thoughts before they take over my brain.
BEAR IN MIND THERE WILL BE SPOILERS PAST THIS POINT!!
Alrighty so, during Endwalker's Elpis questline, the WoL is initially teleported into the hub/entrance to Elpis, and is transparent , unable to be seen by those around them, nor are they able to interact with anything in their environment, and all seems pretty hopeless until a pleasantly familiar voice reaches their auditory sensors and lo and behold, the younger, far less theatrical Emet-Selch and their old-new friend Hythlodaeus have arrived to Elpis to conduct their business, and who is the first one to glance in their direction, obviously noticing the WoL despite how small and transparent they seem to be?
Emet-Selch. The WoL is perceived in these cutscenes, at least from my perspective, as being both shocked and very aware of the presence of this man, who, by all accounts, looks identical face wise to the Emet-Selch they are familiar with. Younger, less jaded and maniacal, sure.
And he notices the WoL almost immediately.
Now where the brain worms begin... Or continue. Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus can "see" the color of the soul, perceiving it in a way that allows them to uniquely pick out different people based off their soul alone, rather than their physical appearance, something that the people of present day Eitherys are unable to do.
Because of Amaurot's policy against individualism whilst about in public spaces, most Amaurotian are regarded by their job or station, with little that defines them from the next, save from the Convocation, all of whom are recommended for their office by a prior seat., Thusly, their people avoid conflict, as they are all found to be essential, and on equal footing.
Except... For those that have the soul sight.
It's considered a valuable gift even in Ancient times, and while Hades imparts that his is inferior to Hythlodaeus, whom he feels should have taken the seat of Emet-Selch, he yet still is able even while focused on other tasking and conversation, to immediately take note of the thin speck of a soul that is, by all accounts, identical to Azem's. (Because they are, in fact, an 8 times rejoined Azem)
This sets up for the inevitable question of, exactly how close is Emet-Selch to Azem? How intimate a relationship must they have (and not necessarily in a sexual way, this can be kindred spirits, familial, platonic, or romantic, however you feel to justify it) that his peripheral senses caught onto the Warrior of Light before Hythlodaeus had a moment to push Emet-Selch into slipping them some aether. Because I don't know about you, but when I'm out and about I don't always take full stock of everything, unless something or someone feels or looks familiar to me, in which I might do a double take, but this man straight up ZEROEs in on the WoL and you have to think... Was he expecting Azem? Was he hoping for Azem?
Now, let's dissect this from another standpoint.
When first it's spoken about the WoL's soul on the first Emet-Selch has just finished observing them just after Ryne's (then Minfilia) rescue and subsequent escape from Ranjit and from Eulmore. He notes its curious quality from afar and states that it may be of use after all. At this point in Emet-Selch's very extensive life, he's already experienced the Final Days, then the destruction of Amaurot, lost one of his best friends, as well as was [betrayed/left] by his other best friend, who was then sundered before they could even attempt to reconcile. Additionally, he has witnessed the fall of man and been tempered by a God beyond that of which we have any understanding of to this point, because it's a creation of and manifestation of the very "Will of the Star", whose heart is literally his youngest, and most innocent(to a degree that we understand) coworkers.
In other words, he is in the full throes of trauma, depression, and the hopeless burden of a life led too long.
Now, I believe somewhere in the questline, Emet-Selch reveals that once his duty is complete, his plan was to return to the star. This insinuates that, upon reviving all those lost and sundered, bringing everyone back that had been sacrificed etc, he would seek to end his life, despite finally having those he loved returned to him. The true burden of grief indeed. But I think, that he realizes that the man he has become, what he has done to bring back his people, the ones he cared about? No longer has a place in ancient society. A peaceful society, that by all accounts abhorred crass terminology such as death and disapproved of violence and hurtfulness, instead focusing on healthy debate and being "stewards of the Star". But Emet-Selch here, he has been warped by millennia of despair, by the aching of his heart, of Zodiark, who has been a voice in his ear so long it may as well be an extension of himself. He's endured so much loss, so many horrors, that he cannot conceive of that peaceful place anymore where he can peacefully coexist. He cannot resolve a place in his perfect society for himself any longer, and I think deep in his heart, it may even be shame for the deeds he had to commit. Despite his repeated attempts at degrading the Scions for their existence, calling the residents of this first "half-men" and denoting that he doesn't see any of them as "truly alive", this comes into question when the Scions and the WoL arrive in Amaurot, and the shades do not call them familiars, or wonder what type of creatures they are.
No, they are called children. They are the precious lifeblood of Amaurot. They are the innocent, the curious, the lives that must be taught and protected.
And who made this version of Amaurot?
Emet-Selch.
Now by this point you might be wondering, Suzuka, what do you mean, that's super irrelevant, Emet-Selch merely created Amaurot to be as it was in the final days, the only distinction being Hythlodaeus. And I would offer you this.
So why would this not present the same in Emet-Selch's recreation of Amaurot? Unless... Unless he knew. Unless he felt it, deep down in his own soul, after so very long, that they were his people. Broken they may be, small, and far thinner in the aether than before, but they were trying, and actively pursuing the strengths that his people once embodied.
When the WoL is in Elpis, what is everyone's immediate assumption? That they are a familiar. A non-human entity, something of the arcane, not alive, not truly, and merely a representation of their creator's imagination, knowledge, and creativity.
Which brings me to my final point, and I thank you for even reading this far because my brain has been so warped by this it runs around in my brain rent free.
Emet-Selch of ShB timeline would not have been able to allow himself to try and be with a restored Azem of his time. Azem's innocence and attachment to the people, their care, their mischievousness, their tenacity, Emet-Selch himself was too broken to reconcile with the though of that. If you are an EmetWoL shipper like myself, then you've probably approached their dynamic like this once or twice before, even if you never wrote it down, or drew it up; that only the WoL in their only seven/right times rejoined self, could possibly understand or even think to care for him with all that he has done. Because they have done things too, no? Killed hundreds, or perhaps thousands in war for freedom, watched their loved ones perish before them. Lost friends, family, perhaps even tasted death themselves. Yet, they are not alone, as he feels he is. As in reality, he is, before WoL strikes him through the chest with the axe of Light. And the only one who might even have the most basic of understanding as to why he is the way he is, is the Warrior of Light. The same soul that he saw that day in Elpis and thought was his friend, his love.
Even for just a moment.
TL;DR Emet-Selch of ShB and the WoL are meant for each other and there's a reason that crotchety old man loves them see essay above lol
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moondyad · 8 months
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Is there an official timeline for when hyperspace story 8 takes place? At least in relation to age of resistance - Hux?
Because either AoR comes first and HS8 shows how the two might have fallen at odds before the events of TFA take place. The alternative is that HS8 came first and then AoR shows them coming together. But if AoR came last, what would have pushed them apart to be so at odds during TFA?
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Crackpot Theories: The Magnus Protocol edition Part 1: The incineration of the magnus institute
Welcome to the first part of the magnus protocol Crackpot theories. Now I will say there will be Heavy Spoilers for the Magnus archives and any episodes of the Magnus protocol that are out at time of me posting this.
As a reminder I would like to say the title of this series is Crackpot theories so before anyone say "you are grasping at strings with this theory" that is the point. In the crackpot theories series I pride myself on trying to find connection and implore you to reply or re-blog with your own thoughts. The more info we get over time the better these theories will become. But for now all we have are strings and we must weave those strings in to plausible theories.
So before we start please I implore you, if you haven't listened to both series, to listen one if not both series as the creators created a master work of a show with The Magnus Archives and now The Magnus Protocol is out and I don't think it will disappoint so read on if you either don't fear spoilers or have already listen to everything.
Everyone caught up with the series and prepared to theory craft then onwards we go.
As the title of this theory will be talking about the fact that in The Magnus Protocol, or as I will refer to it from now on as Protocol for simplicity sake, that the Magnus Archives burned down in about 2002 if the forums are to believed in the second statement of Ep. 1 which I will be referring to as RedCanary after the user on said message board in the statement.
Now as some of you may know Jonny as in the creator mention that Protocol doesn't take place in the same universe that the Magnus Archives, or Archives for simplicity sake, took place in (this was I think said in a stream but I don't have the time to rewatch every stream and scrub through all the content, but I did find a post with help of some friends that does confirm this so I will be re-blogging that post after I make this post). But due to the events of MAG 114 Cracked Foundation and MAG 197 Connected that there is at the very least a connect multiverse.
To explain in MAG 114 the statement giver Anya Villette falls into the the gap in reality that sits in the foundation of the house on Hill Top Road seemingly transporting her to the past. and in MAG 197 Annabelle states this, "This is not ‘the’ world, it is ‘a’ world. And though it has taken so very long to prise it open, the gate to a thousand new realities now stands wide. However, despite this effort, the worlds beyond them remain so far unspoiled by the Fears’ touch." Then later on in that statement this is said:
Jon: I see. Destroy the Panopticon, and you release its power. Kill Jonah, and you cut the connection between the Fears and the world. Do both at the same time, and… for just a moment, all that power rushes through their only remaining connection with reality: the tapes.
Annabelle: And they would be swept along them by it, dragged out of our realities, and into new ones…
This implies that after MAG 200 the fears were essentially ejected into the multiverse leading to the events of Protocol. This forced ejection of the fears was done through the burning of the archives as state in the plan made in MAG 199 Seeing it through.
Now here is where start grasping at threads.
I believe that when the fears were ejected from the archives timeline it somehow brought with it the burning of the institute and through temporal shenanigans the fire had occurred in 2000.
and that is where this theory ends and this Crackpot theory is one of the only theories that has the least amount of ties to the other theories that will be made.
Next will be my Crackpot Theory on will be on FR3-D1 which due to the expanse of the theory will have to be split into multiple parts as that theory contains at least two sub theories and an extra investigation on characters from Archives.
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