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rijinks · 9 months
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@kaelio requested Thorne, who was high on my to-draw list!
Bonus:
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they seem like very good friends
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rijinksiwtv · 5 months
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Thorne/Marius sharing a bath (steamy sketch)
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I've been unable to finish any fanart at all this month help
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killer-laurent · 2 months
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Thorne and Marius ( Commission for @kaelio )
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bubblegum-blackwood · 6 months
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Just for fun
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kaelio · 3 months
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Here are all the drafts from Tulane's special collections box 40-41 for Blood and Gold. This is a book I enjoy a lot, but it does have less material in the special collections than some other books, such as Merrick or TVA. Nevertheless, I hope you enjoy!
Download Link - Part 1
Download Link - Part 2
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oh that's a change lol
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monstersinthecosmos · 3 months
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VC does a good job at constantly reminding us that vampires don't desire sex because they're sensual creatures whose entire bodies have become erogenous zones but like when I tell you how much I fucking adored this moment I found at Tulane which explicitly made the connection between hair combing and making love!
But rereading B&G I'm looking at these two moments with Thorne, a couple paragraphs apart from each other:
"Come," [Marius] said, "let's be done with this pleasure and go for another. Let's hunt. I can feel your hunger."
"BE DONE WITH THIS PLEASURE AND GO FOR ANOTHER" as they're bathing together, referring to the kill being the closest thing that vampires come to sex. And then a moment later after they've gotten out of the bath:
Marius had finished with the task and now took a fresh towel from the stack and began to rub Thorne's back and shoulders. This familiarity sent the chills through Thorne's limbs. Marius rubbed hard at Thorne's head, and then he began to comb the wet hair free of tangles.
Just!! Bathing! Hair brushing! it's so much!!!!!!!
(also let's focus on Thorne right now but this always reminds me of how Armand makes the point to say that when he's being trafficked they pull his hair and hurt him and one of the first thing Marius does is comb it gently okay!)
Listen I'm too emotional to be coherent about this so I'm plopping it on the table and stalking off to wail into the mountains but I just wanted to share this !!
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romanticizingmurder · 2 months
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Thorne is the most relatable character in the vampire chronicles because he meets Marius, thinks about how pretty he is, kisses him, and then cries, which is exactly what I'd do too.
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"Thanks goodness I've met a sane and righteous person who still remembers the traditional values of the vampire society" (the values in question: kissing complete strangers with tongue and teeth if they seem nice). Good for them though. Good for them! Must be nice to meet a person who shares your ideas of what should or shouldn't be done between men who know each other for, like, five minutes.
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Jokes aside, you know what I find an amazing part of Anne Rice's universe? Blood is everything for vampires, therefore blood sharing can mean so many different things depending on the context, and sometimes these contexts are inevitably mixed up. I mean, sharing blood is the vampire sex, yes. At the same time, you can share blood to feed the hungry, to help an injured one heal, to give a younger one an upgrade. Blood also transfers information – you can share something through the blood. You can also drain someone during a fight, or someone may drain you, and this is not a sexual thing, except sometimes it might be that, too (lesmand).
Like, when Marius found Lestat in Cairo, he gave him blood, that was literally the first thing he did. And of course, he only meant to help the suffering, starved creature to recover. Of course! Except Lestat had an obvious crush on Marius and spammed him with numerous letters for ten years and the first thing Maruis did when they met was sharing blood which is also the vampire equivalent for sex? I'll never fully recover from this fact. I'll never ever ever be normal about this.
However, the thing that happened between Marius and Thorne is even more mind-blowing. I mean, when someone invites you to stay at his place, sharing blood with this person may seem a polite thing to do? Taste my blood, read my mind, sense my intentions through the blood, make sure I mean no harm. A lot of human customs are based on the same concept - you demonstrate that your arms hold no weapons or the food/drinks offered to a guest have no poison in them. And actually showing your good intentions to someone you just met is a custom which makes a lot of sense when you were raised in a violent time and culture. Except Thorne's comment makes me think that something else probably happened there? “Now we can't quarrel over any small thing”. This feels like some ritual saying, and many rituals of men becoming sworn brothers include mixing blood. And, though offering something like this to a man you barely know seems rather crazy, I think this probably happened? Like, Thorne, you immediately imprinted on a guy who simply offered you shelter and company for a while, what's even wrong with you? But then I remember how crazy some of the stories of men becoming sworn brothers in myths and folk tales actually are, and Thorne walked into the story straight from the age of myths, so yes, this probably happened. (Thanks goodness he met Marius and not some jerk who would, you know, take advantage.) And yes, blood sharing is also vampire sex, and this makes the whole thing even better.
And then think about the time when Maruis was taking care of Daniel, and Daniel was obviously unwell, and giving him ancient blood to help him heal was probably an obvious thing to try... except blood sharing is also vampire sex and at some point the contexts might have been mixed here, too.
(The last line of the quote... 🙈🙉🙊 I'd rather say nothing.)
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lovevamp · 1 month
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a random detail i think about a lot is that marius kept wolves at his last shrine for TWMBK. he was their master :) anyways. marius x thorne puppy play when
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inexplicablepeas · 16 days
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So I realized that I never shared my Blood & Gold re-read thoughts due to shadow-ban issues on the old blog, thoughts under the cut! It's long!
It was interesting to read this immediately after TVA, it really highlighted Anne's talent for developing distinct voices for her characters as the two books are so different in structure and voice. Where TVA is fevered and rambling with tonnes of evocative metaphor this is logically ordered and somewhat detached. This has none of Lestat's conspiratorial chumminess interspersed with catastrophic existential crises, none of Louis' melancholy poeticism, we're just getting straight facts from Mr Marius . So Marius' voice is a bit drier than a lot of the other narrators in the chronicles but that does feel correct and it gives the book a bit of a cosier and more chill vibe than most of the other entries. It's like story time with Marius. 
It's interesting that this one isn't framed as a book being written for publication but as a quiet and private conversation between a lonely guy and a stranger who showed up on his door step happy to listen to him. I think that makes sense for Marius, he doesn't seem like he would publish his life story, he's too private and he would probably have been more tactful land less honest about certain things if it was for publication - less interesting for us!
You do still have to read a lot of his inner journey between the lines nonetheless. He's not really telling you how he was doing day to day after he abandoned Pandora entirely (following an argument about how to deal with the emerging cult of satan worshippers) then spent centuries in Rome pretending he wasn't dying for Avicus' (and Mael's?) company while letting partying mortals have run of his house as he painted the walls subconsciously with dozens of Pandora faces... but you can imagine, he's probably not feeling great!
It was fascinating to get more detail on how he was recruited to be keeper of the parents and to see his tense arms-length relationship with Mael play out over the years. Eudoxia is a great addition to the story as brief as her time in it is and getting his version of Armand's story is very welcome (and of course interesting to contrast with Armand's telling). Getting more Bianca was also welcome, she's such a big presence in TVA, I liked getting Marius' perspective there. 
I've got some of the same kind of complaints I had with TVA about what was left out. I guess that structuring a life story that spans millenia is no easy task and it's inevitable that some stuff is gonna get left out. Anne probably didn't want to rehash the same events form different perspectives over and over again but I really was disappointed that the narrative doesn't touch on his thoughts on his reunion with Armand in QotD, the brief Night Island coven times, how Daniel came to be in his care (???), his reaction to Armand's suicide attempt (!?), how was it that he and Santino ended up being the team on clean up duty together for that anyway (???), his reaction to learning that Armand was in fact alive(!) and his subsequent turning of Benji and Sybelle.
Marius:
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And Pandora of course, I hadn't read her book at the time of reading this so I was disappointed about how little detail we get on the centuries they spent together. You can imagine his motivations for leaving a lot of this stuff out, it seems that some things are still too painful to talk about and he is also telling a specific story to a specific audience here (to influence a particular outcome, perhaps? *squints suspiciously at Marius*) so it makes sense for him to brush over or leave some things out entirely but it's not always the most satisfying result for a reader that's already invested in these characters and their stories.
The framing device with Thorne is great, I can't emphasize enough how immediately I fell in love with this guy, this stoic but sensitive viking titan of a vampire. I found the final chapter to be the most exciting really, I guess because where most of the story is Marius explaining from his perspective why he's alone (apart from Daniel who doesn't count because he's too obsessed with his model cities, sorry Daniel!), it's all a foregone conclusion where we're heading and we know what happens to most of the major characters but once we get back to Thorne's contemporary POV hey, anything can happen! And thanks to Thorne, stuff does happen! He's kind of the MVP of this book. We also get a teeny bit of Daniel in the framing chapters at the start of the book and hey, it's nice to see him alive and still sassy, if a little worse for wear.
Overall I find it a pretty enjoyable vampire chronicle. I do love the lore of Anne's vampire universe, how rich it is both with historical details and with her own world building and Marius is, of course, very key to it as guardian of the parents for millennia, so I do want to know everything about him and I'm glad this book was written to give us more of his story. His chronicle of his very lonely life, caused in no small part by his own stubbornness and terror of losing control is sad and often frustrating but I did find all of it a compelling read. He's a very strange guy and it really is fascinating to get more of his perspective, even if he doesn't quite have the zazz of a Lestat or the poetry of a Louis.
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sanctaignorantia · 1 month
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Oh wait, if we're going to have Armand telling his story that gives us a lot of things to look forward to, will we get the chance to see Santino, Allesandra, Riccardo and Bianca? If Marius is on "Daniel's side", will we get a glimpse of Pandora, Bianca or Avicus and Mael? Or even Thornevald? Do you understand? When the Queen arrives, it will be necessary to unite all the vampires capable of thinking clearly. They'll have to fill a huge table with thinking heads.
Not to mention Seth with Fareed and even Nebamun! Aaaaaaah😭😭
If Louis is in his Merrick era then what happens to him will impact almost literally with the end of Akasha (about the things Louis explains in the Prince Lestat era), they're telling a story that covers all the books and so it's something to think about...
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desertfangs · 4 months
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Ski Resort Headcanons
Here are some random headcanons about the vampires going to a ski resort:
Louis - Would spend most of his time inside the lodge near the fireplace, reading. He might be implored to go out snowshoeing or cross-country skiing on one of the shorter trailers and appreciates walks around the lodge in the snow.
Lestat - Would insist on skiing the hardest triple-diamond slopes after refusing any lessons. But when he got to the top of the slope, he might question the wisdom of that. Luckily his immortal body can take a beating because he would struggle with the moguls and steeper grades (occasionally flying up over them to avoid crashing), though he’d get to the bottom and brag it was no problem.
Marius - Is actually a practiced skier, who’s spent several winters in the Alps skiing. He would pass Lestat on the harder slopes and maybe even stop to try and help him. Lestat would refuse.
Daniel - Has probably spent some time skiing with Marius. Is pretty good at it although he has no desire to fling himself down the steepest face of a mountain and sticks to the more medium slopes. He also appreciates time in the warm lodge by the fire, playing games on his iPad.
Armand - Is an adept skier who might go with Daniel or Marius or both of them. He would get goaded into doing the most difficult runs because Lestat would insist he couldn’t and Armand would feel the need to prove him wrong, which he would do, accusing Lestat of cheating when he uses the cloud gift to skip the more difficult sections. And he’d enjoy taking quiet walks with Louis around some of the shorter trails. But Armand’s favorite part is riding the ski lifts. He likes getting on and off them, and then being whisked through the air on that little chair.
Gabrielle - Would mostly snowshoe around and lurk in the off-limit forested areas between the runs and trails.
Thorne - Would love skiing and particularly enjoy the easier slopes since he could just glide down and then hike back up. Only rides the ski lift if someone goes with him.
Benji and Sybelle - Armand would buy them the most high-end snow gear and suits. Benji would snowboard.
Jesse - Would stick to the medium runs just because she finds them more fun and doesn’t like the stress of the super difficult ones. Would also enjoy holding a hot cocoa near the fire to smell it and feel its warmth in her hands.
Pandora - All about ice skating if it’s available, though she might get on the skis for a bit just to prove she’s every bit as good as Marius.
Bianca - Also prefers to snowboard. Tries to get Armand and Daniel to try it with her, but Armand spends far too much time researching and trying to pick the best snowboards for them both instead of just… renting some and doing the thing.
Please feel free to add to this, or let me know if you have other related headcanons.
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killer-laurent · 2 months
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Render (left) VS. Flats (right) This is my favorite part (commission process)
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fenicenera83 · 3 months
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Proud to have put like all ancient vampires, because the truth is I love them ❤️
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kaelio · 6 months
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this part is so funny imo
also no one ever gives him credit for it. it's like. oh does that work. could we do that. ... hmm. hm no
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monstersinthecosmos · 3 months
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underrated VC moment:
"I make the mountains with my own hands," said Daniel. "Marius says I should make the houses as well." Again Thorne found himself unable to answer. Daniel went on talking. "I like the houses that come in the packages. It's difficult to assemble them, even for me. Besides, I would never think of so many different types of houses. I don't know why Marius has to say such disparaging things." Thorne was perplexed. Finally he said simply, "I have no answer." Daniel went quiet. Thorne waited for a respectful interval and then he went into the great room.
there's a lot to unpack here about Marius (we'll talk later lol) but I'm just, losing it over Thorne going "................................................................................" and walking the fuck away 😭😭😭
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