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[ladydreamfyre]

Part 2 Sorry didn't fit the whole question. Changing this important fact, what do you think her reaction will be? Will we see her more active in the series? Will she go crazy when Maelor dies (which is a VERY CRUEL death)? Also, since Maelor hasn't been born yet, will we see her birth? Or will she lose him after B&C? anyway, what do you think? Thank you :))

I hope Helaena will be more active in the series, but it won't happen. I am really scared that they will kill her and the end of season 2. There are rumors and leaks that Helaena will be pregnant during Blood and Cheese. Not sure if with Maelor or mabye fourth child? But if it is Maelor, then she will probably lose him after this horrific event. I don't like this way. I prefer original, but they changed many things, so I won't be suprised. I think they will butcher her character and end her in the season finale. Sadly.

Sorry that you had to wait so long for my answer. Greetings!

#house of the dragon #helaena targaryen #hotd season 2 #hotd leaks

[ladydreamfyre]

Hello! I read your post about the leaks and I have a question, since Maelor hasn't been born yet, how do you think this will impact Helaena? I mean, yes, the death of a son in front of his mother is something horrible, but in the book Helaena feels guilty for having chosen her youngest son to be killed and the speech of one of the kidnappers to the young prince that his mother chose him to die and she doesn't love him is what makes Helaena deeply depressed and unable to even look at he children.

I saw that you asked the question in two parts. Under this question I will answer what will happen if Maelor does not exist in the series. In the mentioned leak there is no word about Maelor. There is also no tragic choice of Helaena between her children. If we assume that Helaena will not have to make any choice, and the whole situation will unfold as in the leak, I think the impact of the whole situation on Helaena will be the same. Helaena will be devastated by the loss of her son and will blame herself for not managing to help him somehow.

There is another possibility. What if Helaena will have to choose between Jaehaerys and Jaehaera? In my opinion, she will point to her daughter, although with great heartache and after a long battle with the thoughts in her own mind. However, it is Jaehaerys who dies. In this case, the guilt that Helaena had toward Maleor in the book will be guilt toward Jaehaera in the series.

One more thing comes up…. Helaena's brother and husband, Aegon. In my opinion, Aegon's favorite child is Jaehaera. Of course, I am not saying that Aegon does not love his son. Of course, he loves. Plus, Jaehaerys is his heir, so when he dies, Aegon will lose an heir. Aegon will be in rage and despair at the loss of his son and heir. But not only because of this…

How will Aegon react when he learns that Helaena had to make a choice and pointed to their daughter to be killed? His beloved daughter? Of course, Aegon will not be angry with Helaena. He will sympathize with her, and his anger at his enemies will be even greater. However, the realization that his daughter may have been killed will devastate him from the inside. And she was chosen to die, simply because she was not the heir to the throne.

Terrible, isn't it? I want Aegon in the second season to go crazy with despair at the loss of his son and would do anything to avenge him. I also want Aegon to set a goal to do everything to protect Jaehaera, his beloved daughter, and for her to know that her father loves her truly. And finally, I want Aegon to swear vengeance to Helaena against the killers of their son and those who ordered them to do it. I want Aegon to make it clear to everyone that Helaena is the true queen and that the people love her more than Rhaenyra. I want Aegon to finally become a man and prove to Helaena that he is worthy of being her husband and her love (whatever it may be) and that he is worthy of being king. And that her sacrifice of becoming his wife and giving him offspring was not in vain.

Period.

#house of the dragon #helaena targaryen #aegon ii targaryen #jaehaerys targaryen #jaehaera targaryen #hotd season 2 #blood and cheese #hotd leaks #maelor targaryen

[ladydreamfyre]

Girl, just fall in this rabbit hole. I'm in.

But at the same time I don't think they would be so creative to did it.

Delusion time: What would you do and how would you feel if this ethereal 'Bracken' boy (who's pointedly shown brandishing a sword skillfully like Criston in two of the HBO trailers) is Daeron carrying out a mission in the Riverlands, having dyed his hair as disguise. Daeron, the daring. 😭😭😭

#daeron the daring #daeron targaryen #house of the dragon

[ladydreamfyre]

Hello you! Here it is the link to my fanfic about Game of Thrones. Mainly focus on Jon and Sansa. So if you are interested, I invite you to read it. Hope for your opinion! Thank you!

#game of thrones #jon snow #sansa stark #jonsa #got #arya stark #tyrion lannister #ao3 #fanfic

[ladydreamfyre]

It's okay. Nothing to worry about, just I was a bit concerned when I saw you post. If you want to keep your post, it would be kind if you provide full credit to me. Thank You!

My ideal ending of HotD season 2 would be to have either Otto, Alicent, or someone else on team green saying that they should send a raven to Ormund and Daeron in Oldtown asking to send reinforcements. This could be earlier in the episode or right before, doesn’t matter.

Then the final scene would be a figure dressed in green, looking up at the Hightower (possibly with Tessarion flying overhead). We don’t see this figure’s face, but we can figure out who it is by their white hair. Then boom! End of the episode!

I feel like this would be a good way to close out the season and introduce Daeron without necessarily having to introduce him. It would only require a stand in, so they wouldn’t have to go through the process of hiring an actor to play him (which would probably be expensive anyway), for a short scene that wouldn’t even show the actor’s face.

[ladydreamfyre]

Just because I'm bored, I sometimes go back to old leaks about season 2 of HOTD. I found the two I used to be most interested in and compared them with each other. I found them both on Reddit. One was released in February 2023 and the other in April of the same year. Here are the conclusions: 

1. Rhaenyra vs Daemon 

The first one says that Rhaenyra and Daemon will argue about actions taken during the war, which ends with Daemon slapping her in the face. 

The second describes Rhaenyra over a table with a map of Westeros. Rhaenys and Daemon are with her. Daemon states that he has told Rhaenyra many times to send assassins to Aegon and Aemond, but she has refused each time. Rhaenys replies that they would be cowards if they attacked Alicent's sons in such a manner. Rhaenyra agrees with her and says that she would rather Aegon and Aemond die in battle than in the Red Keep. Rhaenyra also adds that it would have been better if Helaena had married Jacaerys. At which Daemon insults Helaena with ugly words, Rhaenyra tries to silence him, but Daemon continues by claiming that as long as Aegon's son lives the succession crisis will continue. Rhaenyra responds that killing the child is a low act and that they would be better off taking Jaehaera hostage until the Greens agree that the little princess should marry Joffrey and Aegon gives the throne to Rhaenyra. Rhaenys agrees with this idea. Daemon, on the other hand, is against it and insults Jaehaera. Rhaenyra is angry with Daemon and tells them both to leave, addressing Daemon that they will discuss the matter later. 

Both leaks indicate that Rhaenyra and Daemon will come into conflict. The latest leak also indicates that Daemon will use some form of physical violence against Rhaenyra, again.

The second leak is very informative, and when I remembered it now I realised that a similar scene was shown in the last teaser.

In the picture we see Rhaenyra over the map, Daemon and Rhaenys, but also Ser Erryk. Rhaenys looks like she's looking at someone, so there may be someone else with them. Nevertheless, the discussion described could still happen in this teaser scene between the three. 

2. Aegon and Helaena 

The first leak describes Aegon at a meeting of the Small Council, attended by Otto and Tyland Lannister, among others. The men are discussing among themselves, while Aegon sits quietly with his hands on the table. They are discussing the death of Lucerys. Suddenly a guard appears and announces that the Queen (Helaena) needs urgent attention. Aegon says "If Aemond can kill one puppy, we can kill more", then apologises and leaves. Aegon then goes to see Helaena, who is with Alicent. Helaena faints, reaching out her hand to Aegon, and he catches her. Alicent informs Aegon that Helaena is pregnant. 

The second leak describes a similar situation, only starting with what happened earlier. Helaena is in the chamber along with Alicent, the twins and the maester. The maester informs Alicent that Helaena is pregnant. Helaena smiles and says to Alicent that she wished she had been the first to know and that she would have told Aegon the news. Alicent is nevertheless concerned as she wonders what will happen if a boy is born. Helaena replies that she wouldn't mind another boy, but Aegon would prefer a girl, as Jaehaera is his favourite child. Alicent then tells the guard to summon Aegon to the chambers so she can tell him the news. Then a scene similar to the one in the first leak is described. We see Aegon at a meeting of the Small Council, playing with glass of wine. The council members discuss matters of trade amongst themselves, including Tyland Lannister, but Aegon replies that for all the extra money they should hold a tournament and that he would rather ride his dragon Sunfyre than attend a meeting. Criston Cole then appears and informs Aegon that he is expected in his chambers. Tyland Lannister jokes and says that apparently Queen Helaena needs urgent attention. 

It seems that Maelor had not yet been born at that time. There is no description of him being in the chamber with Helaena and Alicent next to Jaehaerys and Jaehaera. 

We also see Aegon interested in his wife, and we also learn that Jaehaera is his favorite child, so Aegon needs to spend time with his children to be able to determine who he likes more. Although this does not mean that he does not love his son. Maybe he prefers his daughter because she is not the heir to the throne? Aegon didn't have a good relationship with Viserys, maybe that's why he doesn't know how to deal with his son. Or maybe little Jaehaera reminds him of sweet and innocent Helaena? I leave this to everyone's own interpretation. 

Most importantly, the description of Aegon's participation in the Small Council closely matches the scene from the teaser.

We see someone with his hands on the table, playing with a ball. There seems to be a cup next to him? Additionally, this person's outfit matches Aegon's outfit in another scene when he sits on the Iron Throne. 

“Aegon sits quietly with his hands on the table.” 

“We see Aegon at a meeting of the Small Council, playing with a glass of wine.” 

In the photo we see hands on the table and probably a glass of wine next to the person. Which fits the descriptions I mentioned earlier from both leaks. It seems that the things described in both leaks may be accurate to some extent. And that's very interesting. 

3. Blood and Cheese  

Blood and Cheese was only described in the first leak, but it connects to the scene described in the second one, which I wrote about at the beginning. The leak informs us that the entire event will take place in the middle of the night. Helaena will be with her children in some aisle and they will talk. Suddenly Helaena hears voices and starts calling for Aegon and Aemond. When Blood shows up, Helaena grabs her children and starts running. However, Blood stops her and grabs her by the hair, while Chees rips Jaehaerys from her arms. Blood tells Helaena to give them Jaehaera or he will rape them both, but Helaena refuses. Cheese tells Blood to let it go because they have a boy and that's enough. As they leave, Helaena screams and her children cry. Cheese wants to run away with the boy in his arms, but Blood slits little Jaehaerys' throat. Helaena and Jaehaera scream. It also says "Cheese doubts before running." 

Now I will not consider the event itself, why they decided to change it and so on (if this version is true). Let's focus on relating this version to the conversation between Rhaenyra, Rhaenys and Daemon. 

“Daemon continues by claiming that as long as Aegon's son lives the succession crisis will continue. Rhaenyra responds that killing the child is a low act and that they would be better off taking Jaehaera hostage until the Greens agree that the little princess should marry Joffrey and Aegon gives the throne to Rhaenyra. Rhaenys agrees with this idea. Daemon, on the other hand, is against it and insults Jaehaera. Rhaenyra is angry with Daemon and tells them both to leave, addressing Daemon that they will discuss the matter later.” 

“Cheese doubts before running”.  

“Blood tells Helaena to give them Jaehaera or he will rape them both, but Helaena refuses. Cheese tells Blood to let it go because they have a boy and that's enough.” 

What I will describe now is my own theory, which does not necessarily have to be true. Just speculation regarding the information mentioned above. 

It appears that Rhaenyra was involved in renting Blood and Cheese as well as Daemon. However, they both had different goals. It is possible that Rhaenyra actually wanted to kidnap Jaehaera to hold her hostage, and maybe even kidnap Jaehaerys, if possible, to keep the Greens in her grasp. If we assume that Rhaenyra's target was only Jaehaera, it would explain why Blood insisted that Helaena give her to them. However, Cheese, seeing that Helaena was adamant and having Jaehaerys in his arms, quickly calculated that the boy was definitely a better option, so he says that it will be enough. 

It is also said that Cheese wants to run away with the boy he was holding in his arms. So he probably didn't want to hurt him at that moment, or he didn't want to hurt him at all and deliver him to Rhaenyra safe and sound. However, Blood has other plans, he kills the boy and runs away. "Cheese doubts before running." Is this an indication that Cheese was surprised by Blood's action? 

Now, my theory. Blood and Cheese were hired by Rhaenyra and Daemon, but it was Daemon who used Mysaria to find suitable candidates for the job. Rhaenyra just applauded. Kidnappers are kidnappers, if Daemon chose them it means they were good at their craft. Rhaenyra orders them to kidnap Jaehaera. However, Daemon has other plans, which only Blood informs about. He secretly tells Blood to kill Jaehaerys, and maybe even Jaehaera. I wouldn't be surprised if he also ordered him to rape Helaena and her daughter, especially since he had previously insulted them in leaks. So we have Cheese, who was going to follow Rhaenyra's orders, and Blood, who was initiated by Daemon and was going to kill the little prince, and maybe the princess. 

Again, I leave it up to your interpretation. 

An interesting thing is that, according to the leak, Helaena was supposed to be in the aisle during the attack. Where was she going with her children? Was she returning from Alicent? Or maybe she was just going to her, like in the book? In the book, Blood and Cheese attacked Helaena and her children in Alicent's chambers, where they were waiting for them. It's different here. Will Helaena be walking through the halls with her children and then they will be attacked? Or maybe she wasn't coming back from Alicent but from Otto? In the book, Helaena took often the children to Viserys, but this is not the case in the series. Viserys ignored Helaena, but Otto clearly had a good relationship with her. Maybe Helaena took her children to Otto, who told them stories, just like Viserys did in the book? 

There is a scene of Helaena with one of the attackers in the teaser, but you can't see where she is in the background. The image is blurry. 

Maybe Helaena is in some chamber and I'm misinterpreting the word "aisle". You'll have to forgive me, English is not my native language. Despite everything, this word was used in the leak. 

4. Daeron the Daring 

And finally, Ladies and Gentlemen, He. 

In the first leak, we have information that Daeron will make his screen debut in Oldtown with Ormund and Garmund Hightower. Daeron and Ormund plan to travel to King's Landing to return Daeron to his family. Daeron says he can fly there on his dragon to greet Aemond and Vhagar. 

The second leak describes a conversation between Aegon and Aemond, in which Aegon states that he is glad that for once their mother's anger is not directed at him, but at Aemond (referring to what Aemond did to Luke). Aemond is not happy about this comment. Aegon sees this and feels bad for saying it and tries to comfort Aemond by stating that Alicent's anger will eventually pass, as Aemond and Daeron are her favorite sons and Helaena is her favorite child. In turn, Aemond replies that Aegon is their mother's favorite child, to which Aegon does not answer. Aemond changes the topic of the conversation by saying that Daeron will arrive soon and that Alicent will forget what Aemond did. 

In both leaks, we have confirmation of Daeron's existence in the series. Which is very optimistic. I know a lot has been said about Daeron, and most people seem to think that he won't be in the series at all or that he won't appear until season 3. However, let's focus on the optimistic version that Daeron, according to these leaks, will appear in season 2, one way or another. 

Summary 

Both leaks mention a few other things, but I decided to choose the most interesting ones. Interestingly, it is impossible not to notice that both of them overlap to a greater or lesser extent. It is likely that they come from one source, but different people had access to more or less details. Or they subjectively chose what might be the most interesting for us. I returned to them several times over the months until I finally decided to compare and combine them. Long post, but I hope it was entertaining for you. The closer we get to the premiere of season 2, the longer the days get. That's why I'm coming to you with this piece of information. Maybe you have your own thoughts or know more than me. I encourage you to refer to this. 

I'm not saying everything here is true. Maybe it's all a lie. I don't know the exact sources of this information, I'm just quoting what I once found on Reddit. Some of you have probably heard about it. Think of it as fun. Let's hope that season 2 will be better than all the leaks that have appeared in recent months and that they will really surprise us with something good. Hopefully. 

Let’s stay together because... 

The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terrors.

#house of the dragon #daeron targaryen #aegon ii targaryen #hotd season 2 #aemond targaryen #helaena targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #daemon targaryen #daeron the daring #daemon x rhaenyra #aegon x helaena #daemyra #helaegon #jaehaerys targaryen #jaehaera targaryen #alicent hightower #otto hightower #maelor targaryen #hotd leaks #blood and cheese

[ladydreamfyre]

Recently thinking if Aegon will get a scene like this after Rook's Rest.

That would be magnificent. A great parallel to the father who rejected and ignored him, and whom Aegon despised.

#house of the dragon #aegon ii targaryen #viserys targaryen #hotd season 2

[ladydreamfyre]

Daeron the Faceless - i.e. how to introduce the character to satisfy both sides (one of the potential possibilities for Daeron to appear in season 2?). 

Both sides: we (fans), they (creators). !!! 

The longer the silence regarding Daeron continues, the more ideas appear in my head. Now I will present one of them. 

How to show Daeron visually, but without involving any particular actor? 

Imagine a scene where we see a man standing with his back to the camera. He has Targaryen hair and is dressed in green. In the background, we see the Hight Tower glowing with green light. 

"Prince Daeron," we hear from behind the camera. "The time has come." 

Suddenly, we hear the loud roar of a dragon (perhaps we even see its silhouette in the distance). 

Here our prince can look up and we have the end of the scene.  

Or - more dramatically - slowly turning his head to the side.... 

But before we can see his face, the screen goes black and the episode ends! 

This scene is perfect for the end of the season. 

In this way, we see Daeron's silhouette, but we don't see his face. We rejoice that Daeron in the series is flesh and bones, and the creators can quietly (?) search for a suitable actor for season 3. 

Obviously we need to hear about Daeron a few times over the course of season 2 and then get a glimpse of him at the end, which [IF DAERON WAS REALLY MOVED TO SEASON 3 AND THE CREATORS DIDN'T WANT TO EMPLOY ANY SPECIFIC ACTOR FOR HIS ROLE IN SEASON 2] would be ideal. All they need to do is get some extra or whoever to do it and it's a done deal. We (the fans) are happy, they (the creators) breathe a sigh of relief.  

So, what should the creators do (I MENTION - IN THE CASE OF PUTTING DAERON UP TO SEASON 3, IF DAERON WAS TOTALLY REMOVED THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE) to get out of this whole situation?  

Introduce the viewers to the character of Daeron at the very beginning of the season, mention him a few more times over the following episodes, and at the very end show him to us as a "faceless" character so that we see that Daeron has become flesh.  

This is probably the perfect solution to the whole situation, BUT....  

I'm well aware that it's not a question of what the creators SHOULD have done, but what they DID do, since the season is already taped.  

But if I came up with the idea, and I'm not the "creator", why shouldn't they?  

Anyway, until THEY finally officially confirm that Daeron is or isn't in the series, I will believe until the last second of the last episode of season 2 that HE is out there somewhere....

#house of the dragon #daeron targaryen #daeron the daring #hotd #hotd season 2

[ladydreamfyre]

Helaena is THE EYE of Aemond

One thing is in my mind, thinking about Aemond's sapphire eye...

Sapphire is blue as: Helaena's dragon - Dreamfyre.

2. Sapphire is blue as: Helaena's dress from last episode.

3. Sapphire is blue as: an eye of Dreamfyre (probably - i just found this picture reffering as Dreamfyre).

4. Helaena was one who foreshadowed the losing of Aemond's eye.

5. In recent episodes we saw that Aemond and Helaena have a close bond. We all see that it's not just sibling things. What if Helaena later told Aemond what she saw about him. (I'm not sure if he heard what she said in that scene which gif is showing). And what if Helaena gave him a sapphire as a gift? BLUE SAPPHIRE.

6. Blue sapphire which reminds Helaena's dragon Dreamfyre (she had a special bond with her in the books). And as we saw the last episode, dress of Helaena was also blue. Maybe Helaena was kind of feeling guilt of what happend? And she thought that would be nice to give Aemond "new eye" to clog the hole. And she wanted to give something that would reminds him of HER. And that's how Helaena became Aemond's EYE. And we definitely see that he has "an eye for her". And now it have double meaning.

Maybe it's too much. Maybe I'm just making sheeeeet post. I might be wrong... BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE SAPPHIRE EYE REALLY COMES FROM OUR SWEET HELAENA.

#helaena targaryen #aemond targaryen #helaemond #aemond x helaena #house of the dragon