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rocking-space-dragon · 7 months

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So I've been thinking - thinking about the way Phil was ABSOLUTELY targeted, the way that wasn't a dream besides the end, but they made him think it all was, the way that Phil interacts with the Federation and Cucorucho specifically.

The way they call him 'The Wise Old Crow' specifically stood out to me - because the only other person on the island they have a 'Nickname' for is Jaiden, referring to her as 'Bluebird'. Jaiden, who grew up on the island, who has close ties to Cucorucho and the Federation.

And that got me thinking about the other Kidnapped members - among them, Baghera and Quackity. Baghera, another bird, who ALSO grew up on the island under the Federation, and Quackity, ANOTHER bird, who worked with the Federation from the beginning until he was disappeared and brought back conveniently lacking memories.

What am I getting at? Simple.

I think Philza also has ties to the Federation.

The nickname, him being a bird, the bizarre dream-not-dream that was so different to everything else, the way they've been talking to him in notes that's COMPLETELY different to everyone else...it says to me that there's a connection here that nobody else has.

I think Phil used to be part of the Federation; maybe that's why they call him 'wise old crow', perhaps he was a senior member. They could even work in the 'fourth wall' breaking into it. Who's to say he wasn't there before Cucorucho? That he didn't used to see him like a son?

All I know is that I don't think we're done with Phil's lore, or the Federation's connection to him, not by a long shot.

#qsmp #qsmp philza #qsmp quackity #qsmp cucurucho #qsmp federation #qsmp census bureau #qsmp baghera #qsmp jaiden #philza minecraft #jaiden animations #baghera jones #quackity #qsmp theory #qsmp thoughts #qsmp birds #qsmp kidnapping

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odusseus-xvi · 8 months

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Reading posts and comment about Forever and Baghz' relationship on here and it seems all of the problems are on Forever's side. Because if you watch Baghz'... They don't exist !! (Just in case, I'm happy that most posts tallking about it are at least very cordial on here. I'm not going on Twitter cause it must be a warzone but I'm talking about here)

She doesn't include him in anything anymore and spends all her time with BBH !

Well first of all if that was the case, there is nothing wrong with that, AND that is fully untrue. It's not premaditated, I don't know if you've noticed but recently, she has been much less able to log on, and tonight is actually her last QSMP stream for a WHILE for external projects (hoping she gets kidnapped, give her LORE), so of course she is gonna see him less. Not only that but she is also going to bed more early for health reasons, and Forever tends to log on later than usual, and arrives around the times she wants to go to sleep. So incidentally, she sees him less. On The other hand BBH is here when she is, so of course she sees him more.

They just need to be sincere with Forever and everything will be okay again.

Yes. She already is. Except when she is, a small vocal part of the community jumps on her. She is sincere, she is an actual friend when she says that she thinks Forever's doing things wrong. She is also suportive of him. She said on her stream how hard the position must be. And actually, if you think about it, Forever might be the one not really sincere. Yesterday Forever told her that he was trying his best to please everyone, she answered "Yes, I know, it must very hard..." and she got cut off by him saying "Not it's actually very easy." She was then surprised, as this was evidently not what was happening. Then Forever says "Hey, if you have criticism, tell me", and then she did. She explained what she thought he was doing wrong. But then people come and say it's because "they don't understand Forever's projects because of the language barrier". No. No I can tell you they do, they just don't agree with them. And again, she doesn't "only sides with BBH anymore", it's just that one of her friends come and tell her "I'm not feeling fine, things are going terribly", and the other comes to tell her "Hey things are going perfectly :D", so obviously she'll worry more about the guy that's explicitely looking for support. I can tell you if Forever were actually honest, and came and told her "I feel alone and isolated, I'm not sure if what I'm doing will please everyone" she would gladly help him.

They are constantly critical of Forever's work.

Yes. Because they don't agree with him. Again, I think you forgot that when the election were here, her main point was that she doesn't want a president, that she dislike this idea, and she doesn't want them to play into the federation's games. All the things Forever is doing. "let's add laws that are punishable by prison", To her that is literally what the federation is asking for. So obviously she won't like that. And again, she is conscious that Forever is doing his best, she said in rp that she is worried for Forever because it's a very hard position to be in. But again whe she asks Forever about it he says "Oh it's going perfectly fine :D Don't complain, I'm doing things ! People complained I wasn't doing anything !". She said she was happy he tried to please everyone, and that she would help if he asked for it. He didn't. He said "If you have criticism, go for it". And when she did he explained his project for the hundreth time, and she explained for the hundreth time that she felt like it had flaws.

She's hiding things !

No. No she isn't. I can tell you : She isn't. She never hid anything to anyone. Except the location of Jaiden's home. You can respect this secret right ? Not ony that but she has ADHD. She tends to forget to do things pretty easily. SHE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE LORE ! EVERYTHING SHE LEARNS IS THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE WHO MOST OF THE TIME ALREADY TOLD FOREVER.

TLDR :

All of those problems Forever is making up. they didn't isolate him, he isolated himself. HE is the one that broke all of his waystones and made a gap around his base. HE is the one saying they keep secrets from him when they don't. Would he talk about with them, they would listen, but they just don't know he thinks that because they don't do those things.

Another note : Baghera talked about how she heavily disliked how early people assigned her and Forever as a duo. She said that she obviously loved him, and that he was a dear friend, but she felt like they tried to pressure her into spending all her time with him instead of everyone. Like she said herself, depending on what I want to do there is plenty of people I like to go : I love theorising with BBH because he has an interesting intel, when I want to goof around I go to Foolish, when I want to banter I go to Forever, when I want to do nothing and just bullshit arond I go to Antoine etc. And sometimes I just see who comes to me. I'm not further away from Forever, we are just on our own projects at the moment. Just because you want me to constantly be by Forever's side doesn't mean I have to. In the future they will probably be times where our projects and timetables will more coincide and we will be much more together again. But I have other things too.

#qsmp #qsmp forever #qsmp baghera jones #qsmp baghera #qsmp badboyhalo #qsmp bbh

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yelow-heart · 6 months

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So.

That Census Bureau live huh.

....Let's revise it!

First things first, That was hands down, no questions asked, Osito Bimbo.

How in his reports he was only using lower cap writing, his good sense of humor. The tea and popcorn farm (🥲 Jaiden'd be so proud). So yeah.

And yeah, the Eye guy sequestered the islanders. The moment the cucu weather broadcast of eggisland got glitched, we knew something was up. (On the first days I thought that was the case. But then I started leaning into the theory some folks have, like Bagi, that it was a plan of the Feds to make the islanders long for Quesadilla island and stuff. I think I just fckn forgot about the broadcast and weird way they were called to the train lol)

Also also. Quackity (f on the chat) was kidnapped by ElQ before he could kill Fred. So our boy is prob still out there somewhere, let's not panic. Good to point out how ElQ looked like he wasn't very happy about it. And how he kept saying sorry and that it was for Quackity's own protection. Could it be? Could bitch man ElQuackity be one of the good guys??

Another thing, Feds still have no clue how to deal with "■■■■■". We know from foosh's pov that they had managed to capture them briefly, but eventually it escaped. Btw have we decided on a name yet? Is it going to be Judas? I do, like many things, have a thought for this too: is him a corrupted ":)"? I'll talk more about it on the cut.

Also, code entity captured? That's new, is it CodeFlippa?

Dude, theory time: I don't think the code entity faction is necessarily a goodguy faction. They could be just a rival of the Federation. U know? Like McDonald's and Burger King is. And they could have the same goal as the Fed do, just working for it in a opposite way. Like, Federation is very Order and Perfect coded, and the code people are more on the Chaos and Flaw (glitched entities) route.

As u can see, I have way too many thoughts kkkkk

But ACTUALLY, the thing I wanted to talk about is, Where tf is Cucurucho?

Ok, so for some context for the pals that don't watch Jaiden's pov: Cucurucho was acting pretty weird when he asked for her help. He was erratic and repeating himself many times, clearly upset that Osito had broken the thin line of "perfection" he is tasked to defend. Like dude, he was actively panicking.

But anyways, he chased the guy, captured him and calmed him down and that's when he comes to Jaiden for help.

But ever since that, Cucu hasn't really stopped with the strange behavior. He's always on the edge, only interacting with Islanders to deliver tasks and nothing else, super cold and distant (more then he already is). Always a little distracted. And he's been actively avoiding Jaiden. Like, for real for real. Almost like he's prohibited to see her or something.

He's been distant even with Osito, is what it looks like. And, thinking back a little, I don't really think he has showed up to any Islanders for like, a month or so. Like, The last time we saw him for sure was at the A0 presentation, maybe not even that. Osito got really good at masking ever since Jaiden trained him.

He didn't show up to any of the events on the week leading to purgatory, too. Like, I thought he was the one to send Forever to the Nether, but apparently that was Osito, as we see him on the live asking for forever to give him a feedback.

So my take is that, whatever Cucurucho was cooking ever since the eggs disappeared have finally catched up to him. And I don't think he's safe. He was probably the one leading the operations to stop Cucurevil (Evilrucho? Judas? Truth? We need to decide on a name), and was probably the one to capture him too. But alas, Oscurucho (I really like this one btw) got out, and it does align with the time Cucu has been quite absent.

So yeah

Where the fuck is Cucurucho?

Was he the fed agent Federation sent to look for the eggs on the nether after Forever apparently failed? (It could've be Walter Bob, since he is a escape goat for the Federation)

Does the Eye of Sauron has him? Is he on another place entirely? Was he the one that sent the "I found them" message that they received right after Forever went to the nether? And that's why Forever has no clue about that?What the f is going on?!??!?

And, for the "■■■■■ could be a corrupted ":)"". I've had this ideia bugging me ever since they were introduced. He seems to be in reverse and the fact that the Federation actively goes on ways to stop them suggests they are not on the "perfect" path. Perhaps a deserter. I think dude was another one of the experiments, but, like the hybrid islanders, failed. And somehow got corrupted to whatever it is that the Feds are working against.

Ok, so, we know the key thing for the Feds are clones and Perfection right?

But like, my take is that the two things are combined. Like. The Federation makes it very clear they want to achieve perfection. Or at least, they want these "entities" aka Cucuruchos to achieve it. But what they need perfection for?

And the "threat worse then the Federation" makes it interesting. What if the thing they been trying to make is the Perfect Soldier? That's a thing that would connect almost, if not all, of the Islanders backgrounds and how they got fcked over by them. Putting kids to fight eachother, testing with memory and mind manipulation. And most importantly, Hybrids. So many of them. Hybrids everywhere.

And look at that, what is Cucurucho? A fckn hybrid dude. A polar bear walking on two legs.

And about the mind manipulation. Well, the perfect soldier doesn't question orders. They just do what they are fucking told to. Only remembers what is pratical for the leader cause. Doesn't get attached. Doesn't have an individuality.

And cucurucho cannot lie, like, a lot of islanders don't know this. Maybe only Jaiden does, actually. He literally is incapable of doing so, that's why he uses "classified" so much. And that's why Jaiden absolutely trusts what he says. Because it is his truth.

He doesn't have a voice. He's obligated to not have an individuality with his own personality (that's why Osito freaked him out so much) or even a name, like the incident when Cellbit asked him to put his name on the room he chose and how he wrote ":)", suddenly changed it to "cucurucho" and then went odd and quiet for awhile and changed the sign back to ":)". Cellbit said how it looked like he was told to change it back. The way Osito had to learn how to mask and appear as Cucurucho also reflects the "forced to be a hivemind" thing.

He, literally, doesn't have a voice.

Also also, clones. Is there more then one cucu? Yes, there is. Are there other clones on the Island? Yep, Baghera and Quackity say hello.

And finally, to the grand finale, we have project A0. Wich are what?

Fucking clones. Little soldiers, that can be created in mass, work in a hive mind, don't question their leader and can be optimized to good fighters. Perhaps even, with different skils depending of the source of their cloning.

Like, dude hahahah they did it. The mad lads did it. Baghera, Quackity, Jaiden, Niki, maybe Roier, Cucurucho.. all of these tests and experiments was for this: perfect soldiers that can be spawned in mass and multiplied with very low cost.

But now that they're here.. when will they be sent to fight what they're meant to? And how terrifying is it?

And back to Cucu. I think he could very well be rebelling. Who knows, maybe even corrupting. For the very fact that he's no longer "perfect". He got attached. He cares for his blue bird. A lot. That would explain his absence, his odd behavior, the way he is around Osito. He also found a name for himself. The thing that might very well started his metamorphosis.

Jaiden showed him things to like and experience, the islanders, specifically Foolish, Roier and Felps, taught him how to have fun. Cellbit taught him about hate kkkkk. He got attached. He changed. He is his own person now. He found his humanity.

Cucurucho is no longer perfect.

P.s. rip coffee machine

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ylvaisawolf · 7 months

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Messy thoughts on Fred (and Tubbo?)

This is really disjointed. This was just me typing everything that popped into my head down.

I have opinions on Fred (and everything around him atm)

Like everyone saying he is evil. Fred himself knows he did wrong things

He knows he isn't a saint he just has a single person hae loves and cares about [Tubbo]

Fred told Tubbo he did wrong things and yes he did not specify what (From what I recall) but he told Tubbo and he said he didn't care (Tubbo said he would be a villain if Fred is sooo…)

Is it very cruel to tell someone you wish they would get tortured again? Yes! Hell yeah it is.

Quackity has his reasons for hating the Feds no shit but he threatened Tubbo which is why Fred said that.

(Also I am biased towards Tubbo. I am Foolish/Jaiden in spirit aka I side with the characters I like more over my irl morals)

Like I do think he cares because he has to for the other workers but they are not friends, they are his underlings or bodyguards so you have to be nice there (Or you would hope. Even if manipulative)

Like I would be an idiot to not acknowledge him taking notes on Aypeirre’s torture or again his very cruel comment to Quackity

Fred acts different ways with different people. Like he is definitely more nice with Tubbo for example when he said he was a bad penpal for not responding much and “I genuinely felt like a stalker and that it wasn't morally correct what i was doing…” (Day 195) of which Tubbo responded in his letter back with “ I don't think you should worry about the morality of trying to find them as kidnapping itself is very immoral.”

Which is true but still.

Fred also said on the day of the movie date he has done bad stuff to Tubbo. (“You don’t understand, I’ve done bad stuff.” … or something similar as I am not watching the vods.)

So to me I am wondering where some people have been?

Fred is deny deny till he cant then bites back when out of options

He is seemingly questioning himself and the Feds but atm he is following them along still

Back to Tubbo for a sec I have to mention that he said something along the lines of It seems everyone but the morning crew likes him so it wouldn't be hard for him to be a villain.

I keep bring that up whoops but like Tubbo is really protective of Fred warning him to stay away from Aypierre and that he will gladly listen to anything that worries Fred

Tubbo and Fred really love and trust one another.

ALSO!

Fred wrote on October 8th “I must admit… I don't know what my morals are or trust for the Federation is..”

Man knows he is messed up <3

(Also Tubbo just told him it is ok to question your morals)

Fred not trusting the Feds doesn't mean he doesnt follow what they want like torture btw. I am not ignoring that dont worry

He still is doing his job. He acts like he doesn't like it but he is still doing it.

Also Fred at one point told Philza he loves snitching. Yes, kinda sassy but he did say that. (I think October 4th or 5th)

If it isn't obvious I Adore Fred even if he turns out evil. I find him to be a very interesting character.

Also I am not touching him leading Tubbo, Roier, & Slimecicle to the Maze. I have no idea what the deal is there.

Yeah this post is a mess but I don't normally post my own thoughts or do essays (this isn't even an essay). If I wanted to put more effort in I could but me typing my thoughts down and semi looking for direct quotes is all this post is getting haha.

I don't care if Fred gets better or worse as long as he is a fun and interesting character the whole time .

#qsmp #qsmp fred #qsmp tubbo #long post #?#I don't really like my posts to be reblogged but I also want others thoughts #Messy thoughts #I am nervous haha #Maybe I will make an actual essay on fred ot Tubbo but more likely I will just find one I like and reblog it #Fred is just so interesting to me #i do honestly thibk Fred likes Tubbo only though

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anachronistic-falsehood · 7 months

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giving u a free ticket 2 talk about qsmp more bc its fun 🎟🎟 tell me about jaiden. i only vaguely see people talking about jaiden and i just think shes a cool person in general (<< used 2 watch her animation videos ALL the time) so i wanna know what shes up to :]

OH DUDE. INSANE ABOUT QJAIDEN FR. i don't watch her pov often so a lot of this might be off but like. i will not stop thinking about her ever. okay. so jaiden and roier. platonic partners forever and ever <3 they had a son named bobby and he was just the SILLIEST little guy ever on the planet!!! such a little shit!!! and he was so so caring and loving!!! he DIED. ok. he DIED and it was SAD. and roier coped by hiding his grief with jokes, but jaiden just kind of. wallowed in her grief. she let it consume her. and CUCURUCHO CAME ALONG and started hanging out with her and being nice to her. and like. ok. whatever u weird ass bear.

but like. the way she treated cucurucho kind of got similar to the way she treated bobby. and ALL OF US could see that that fucking THING was trying to manipulate her by being a fucking STAND-IN FOR HER SON. and jaiden is not stupid or naive, she definitely realized that she was trying to fill this bobby shaped hole in her heart with cucurucho, but she kind of just. let it happen. it was better to use this love on something than let it sit there with nowhere else to go and turn into more grief. yk.

it's kind of canon that jaiden was involved with the federation somehow before arriving on the island. none of us know HOW. also she has wings!!! she's a parrot hybrid which is really cool!!! but we also know that the feds did horrible experiments on other bird people like baghera and quackity and they're messing with phil. THEY HATE BIRDS I GUESS. also she can't fly. she either doesn't remember how to or never learned how in the first place, and that second option has some WILD implications if u think about her mostly unknown past with the feds

OK now it gets kind of complicated bc GUESS WHAT there are multiple cucuruchos. there's one that types All proper and normal, with correct grammar and punctuation, like this. and another one that types KARKAT STYLE IN ALL CAPS AND IS VERY SILLY!!! and the all caps one (i think??) is called osito bimbo by some of the islanders. at some point jaiden was... not rly kidnapped???? but i guess like. recruited by the federation to spend two weeks training osito bimbo because he wasn't a very proper cucurucho. and these two weeks FUCKED HER UP. she got MORE emotionally attached to the cucuruchos. they are some of the only living(?) things she can count on. she is DEEP in the shit now. even after learning about horrible things that one or more of the cucuruchos have done (the cellbit chainsaw torture, the felps kidnapping, etc etc) she kind of brushed that off as like "oh they were just being silly!!!!" like Girl These People Are Traumatized. So Are You. GET HELP. like she's fully aware that the federation is bad, but she separated cucurucho from the federation in her mind so she doesn't have to feel bad about caring for cucurucho. she's really close with people who have been wronged by the feds and/or cucurucho but she just. can't let go of this lifeline. cucurucho is so important to her, just like bobby. she can't give that up.

my beloved grieving mother/flightless bird/federation favourite <3 she is so interesting i'm going to start ripping up floorboards

#qsmp #friend tag :3 #SHE'S SO INTERESTING TO MEEEEEEEE #i need to watch her pov more i love her so so much #also btw they stole like. spawnable mini clones from the federation. so now they have itty bitty versions of themselves #and jaiden named her minime BALLS???????????? with about that many question marks #and so if u have seen recent clips of jaiden and/or others screaming BALLS?????????? at a tiny jaiden that would be why <3 #i love BALLS??????????? all my homies love BALLS???????????

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starry-bugs · 7 months

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(so first sorry this is so long)

i love that cellbit is just repeatedly pushed towards melissa

the perceived difference between roier and messisa being roier is a passifist and melissa is not and has torn a mans throat out is great (im sure cellbit would love to see roier tear a mans throat out despite not being able to imagine it)

i love that cellbit is assumed by a lot of the supernatual characters to be melissas trophy husband (its not technically wrong if you think about it for a moment as a reader) but like the whole idea that roier is so whipped regardless that people can see thst hes in love with cellbit (im sure cellbit would demand to keep up the ruse after he finds out roier is melissa because what would people think despite roier wanting to be dramatic and kiss him at an event to prove a point and im sure he would let roier do whatever he wants)

i love the idea of after finding out him just sitting there thinking over everything roier did as melissa and how hot it was because it was roier doing it and probably how much he wants roier to do all that stuff again as himself. (and how much he wants to see roier covered in blood too probably)

i know you said she hands him a thing of water and a rag but i love the image of roier coming home covered in blood and jaiden holding out a hose and telling him clean himself off and juat him having to mostly strip and hose himself off in the backyard before he enters the house

i think former canibal cellbit would love to be turned into a vampire to be with roier forever but also fear regressing back into his old ways because of it

i love the idea of roier seeing cellbit while he is kidnapped and immediatly just fussing over him in their normal way despite just having torn a mans arm off and being covered in blood

god i love not quite fledgeling cellbit and roier (im sure reluctantly) having to let the federation finish whatever the fuck they started to do to cellbit

its absolutely no problem how long it is, I love it hearing your thoughts! and I'll go in order under the cut

1. it starts out with her specifically seeking him out, just because roier wants to show off in front of his boyfriend. and when he realizes that cellbit doesn't know and also cellbit is possibly in danger, it's the perfect way to keep him safe without scaring him away.

2. cellbits views of melissa and roier are so different that he wonders how they're even related sometimes. melissa has and will kill a man just for making a comment about him, and roier cried because he accidentally killed a spider one time. a lot of his thoughts on melissas actions and seeing her face and the look in her eyes really boil down to, "she looks like roier, if roier did this I'd fall in love all over again."

3. cellbit is most commonly assumed to be her trophy husband, but some also think hes her thrall/blood bag. it's debated for awhile but eventually everyone can see how absolutely devoted to cellbit he is, so trophy husband is the consensus. either way, it works out because it gets other supernatural people off of him. because people don't want to mess with what's melissa's.

cellbit gets worried about what people would think if its public that melissa was a lie, because he knows by that point it was roier's way of having freedom. but roier tells him he doesn't care about that and wants cellbit to be able to be public about his relationship with roier as himself.

4. cellbit does, in fact, fall in love all over again and his reactions would be funny to roier if he wasn't so worried that cellbit was falling out of love with him. and cellbit does remember seeing roier covered in blood at his rescue, right after roier asks him if he's alright, and then of course he asks roier to marry him

5. jaiden has absolutely threatened to hose roier down on some of the worse nights, specifically during the week they and bobby are staying at foolish and vegetta's because cellbit is missing and roier is tearing the city apart trying to find him

6. cellbit does consider becoming a vampire once he knows roier is one. mostly because he can't imagine having to say goodbye to roier, or roier living forever without him. the cannibalism is mostly behind him by the time all of this takes place but he doesn't mind the taste of blood as much as he hates the feeling of flesh between his teeth

7. roier absolutely turns into a doting, concerned mess the moment he sees cellbit behind that door. he drops the arm he's literally still holding and immediately goes to check him over, not even processing that cellbit is asking him questions until they're out of that damned building and he knows they're safe

8. neither of them want to go to the federation, but cellbit knows that they're the only ones who can help him and roier isn't going to let him go alone. are you crazy? roier still doesn't like being there, or trust them but when they say that there's a possibility that cellbit could either die or go on a bloodthirsty killing spree if it's not completed, he really doesn't have a choice

#asks #vamp!melissa au

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haphazardcorvid · 8 months

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I don't usually post anything about qsmp (or post at all because I have difficulties with communicating myself online, so if the tone or wording is weird or off-putting, I apologise) but I kinda wanted to share some thoughts on how the Meta unintentionally affects the rp, especially in the case of members going missing.

(Also this will be Long. I'm sorry. Concise writing is a gift I do not possess.)

This isn't like, the fault of the members or storyline, but I think it what inevitably happens on a server where RP and planned character lore blur with complete casual play where it's just... Real people interacting. This isn't even really criticism, just observation, because there's really no blame or fixable issue. Nobody is at fault, it's simply A Thing That Can Happen, especially when the server prides itself on spontaneity and leaving the characters AND creators in the dark (which is a thing that overall makes the qsmp really exciting) about the larger lore and other characters lore.

The Meta of real life can really influence the rp reactions, however unintentionally, and I'm mostly noting it in the case of characters going missing. For what I think is the best example, when q!Baghera was missing for AGES, I genuinely think there should have been a much bigger in-character server reaction than the one we saw? Especially considering how active she is and her wide array of friends and family. (Correct me if you saw otherwise, it just seemed more minimal from my non-french speaking pov, maybe I'm wrong).

The issue seems to stem from the creators themselves knowing that the other creator is simply on hiatus because of real life things, and that bleeds into the rp unintentionally, especially when their character didn't see the missing one actually go missing. It felt similar with Jaiden, but also less so, because she wasn't as active as Baghera and wouldn't be interactive for long periods after Bobby's death. She's still a good example though.

So the characters don't know where their friend is or even if they're not around for a bad reason, but the players know the fellow player is doing Stuff and can't come online, and it seems to muddle the rp reaction. Probably because it's not heavy scripted RP - they react blindly to events and often their characters are just extensions of themselves. (Tbh it didn't help with q!Baghera that they just got new people, and then the eggs disappeared, so all other thoughts just flew out the window). I just wish she'd gotten a stronger reaction, and genuinely think real life meta affected that. Like with some perspectives (q!Phil, for example) it was hard to know she was actually Missing missing (nobody mentioned it).

I think this is inevitable when the approach to rp is more heavily Reacting rather than Acting (there's acting too, but qsmp scripting seems to act more like guidelines than dictated interactions). It pops up a lot - when Etoiles was in America (tbf his character is more Lone Wolf, Mr 200k), Jaiden, etc. Then, because that person physically can't come online in real life, and there's often zero clues or puzzles about their whereabouts, it flatlines or peters out until their return because nobody can do anything and their characters don't know anything (often the creators too, it seems, because everyone is very averse to metagaming for good reasons). The casual side of gameplay means it becomes just people waiting for their friend to be available again.

On a funny note, you can get around some of this the Pac Mike way, by simply being kidnapped/vamoosed directly in front of your loved ones/friends. Instant Oh Shit reactions, the possibility for extending angst (q!Pac you sad angsty legend) the whole shebang - although you can still get the side effect of characters seeming to care less too fast, because it blurs with the players just comfortably waiting for their friend to come back from hiatus. In fact, it seems the best way to get a reaction from a Missing storyline is to vanish in front of someone, or leave breadcrumbs before or after the event. The Brazilians do that super well.

This meta bleed could also go the opposite way, which is why I'm so curious about q!Fit and q!Tubbo noticing q!Phil's disappearance. In that case it might mean they notice he's gone (in rp) unnaturally quickly, because they know his schedule of streaming and the fact that he's not going away in real life this week, and that he was most likely going to stream on monday, which could tip them off, but isn't necessarily an in character reason. There are other in rp explanations - he tells them whenever he's going away, they've antagonised the feds, he said he'd be around, etc - but I'm curious about the Meta, because realising today would be very fast. It's why I think it would be good if there were more breadcrumbs left so it isn't so affected by real life (because they could also lean the other way and ignore it too much because of metagaming). Hints or something of that ilk.

There's also the matter of scripting. Like I know Phil and Forever have been messaging about lore to ensure rp etiquette isn't broken and they get to do all the ideas they have planned. It does turn reacting into acting, but eh, I think a good balance of both is necessary, as much as we the audience love genuine shock and discovery. The creators absolutely plan things behind the scenes, and maybe Baghera didn't put so much weight on the rp reactions to her being gone? I don't know their minds, so I can't speculate. Doesn't change what I think about the Meta affecting it though.

I dunno. This is just one long ramble, because I was disappointed in the more lacking reactions to long absences, especially in the case of Baghera, and wanted to dissect one of the things I think is influencing it. I could just be chatting rubbish. It's not a blame game of 'oh they're doing this wrong' but genuinely something I find interesting. I love the server and the way we react to discoveries WITH the creators themselves, not just the characters, it's just an interesting thought. I just wish there had been more storyline connected to other ccs about Baghera being missing, because her lore is SO good. I wanted the Angst, goddamit.

#Anyways I don't know what I'm talking about #And I don't know what I'm doing #How the fuck do people talk online all the time #Just didn't see anyone mentioning this so I finally posted something #That could just mean nobody said it because it's bullshit please tell me if it's bullshit I don't know how to read the room #qsmp #qsmp baghera #qsmp philza #qsmp Jaiden #qsmp forever #qsmp etoiles #qsmp pac #qsmp mike #qsmp rp #Please keep in mind I'm coming from a chronically English monolingual pov

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kai-the-person · 4 months

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(sorry about this mainly having examples involving Philza, I mainly watch his streams)

I hate it whenever characters (and fans) see the worst in each other's actions.

BBH was the villain for a lot of people in purgatory. But he was told by Dapper, his son, that he needed to win. To run over anyone in his way. That, added with the fact that the watcher said that there was a cursed team, what was he supposed to think?

He was doing what he thought needed to be done to save his son. To save as many eggs as he possibly could. By all intents and purposes, he was the hero in his own story.

I see this a lot with Sunny, Phil, and Tallulah. Everyone assumes that Phil and Tallulah despise Sunny and that they are just being blatantly and maliciously cruel to her. That's just not the case. It's a series of misunderstandings on Phil's part, the trauma Tallulah has, and the need to belong on Sunny's part. There are many things that they all could've done differently. But none of their actions were malicious.

I see this in the way the fans treated bbh (or anyone who wasn't Bolas) during purgatory. The understanding was that anything goes and the admins tweaked everything as they went along. The only thing he did that was blatantly against the rules(that I know of) was when he was shooting Charlie(I think Charlie) and Jaiden even after the spawn box had been placed. And he almost got killed by a cat in a witch hat for it.

I also see it in the way that Tubbo is immediately talking about killing Forever. He sees the absolute worst in him, I get why, but it should give him pause that everyone around him trusted him with their kids. That Phil, one of the most paranoid people when it comes to the safety of his kids, trusts forever. There is a reason he was elected president. But Tubbo was immediately ready to kill him.

Tubbo has reasons for this. To protect the daughter he just barely got but still loves with all his heart. But he isn't framing it as eliminating a threat. He is framing it as forever just going off the deep end.

Everyone has reasons for doing the things they do. I wish more people would take that into account.

Baghera and Cellbit were brainwashed by the watcher and that's why they're killing everyone.

Etoiles talked with the codes, has heard their side of the story and is understanding.

The Watcher has seen Charlie go after all the eggs, Quakity go after Chayanne and try to kidnap Tallulah, saw Bagi and Cellbit's mess of a relationship, saw parents abandon their kids. To him, the Islanders were sinners who needed to be tested and shown the errors of their ways.

The federation has been making advances in science far quicker then if they went about it ethically. They are literally trying to make the perfect place to live to erase suffering. You got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette after all.

Everyone has their own motivations for doing what they're doing. And in their mind, and told from their side, it makes sense.

I'm sorry for the rant. I'm just sick of everyone assuming the worst of everyone else.

#qsmp

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atthebell · 5 months

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(in reference to an ask you sent etoilesbienne just for clarification lmao)

actually I love to see you point out how some people were talking about karma during happy pills arc cause it makes me so relieved to know that I'm not the only one who was bothered by it and that it possibly wasn't just because I'm a forever main 💀

LIKE- Hot takes guys, but maybe NO ONE DESERVES TO BE FORCED ON DRUGS nor HAVE THEIR KID DISAPPEAR just because they come off as mean when they talked about a mom who was grieving? like sure disagree with forevers actions towards Jaiden all you want (cause I too think forever was in the wrong when it came about her house, although I do understand his justification and the place he was coming from) but like. let's not say someone deserved to be forced on drugs and have their kid disappear over it???? specially cause richas wasn't the only egg who disappeared????

yeah i talked about it at the time because it was actually so fucking rancid that people were saying that but it bears repeating. and also the thing that got me is that forever literally said that what jaiden did with bobby fields freaked him out because he thought he'd react the same way!! he said he was scared of what he would do if he lost richas and that fear made him nervous about jaiden and nervous for himself. like, i don't think he was as kind about it as he could have been, but that doesn't make the loss of richas like. a divine retribution. it makes it a tragedy, one that NO ONE FUCKING DESERVES. again, like i said, keep your freak christian morality out of my minecraft roleplay. there is no world in which someone's just punishment is being forcibly drugged and having their child taken away.

and yeah richas was not the only egg taken, which was ALSO PART OF WHY FOREVER LOST HIS SHIT! like he felt responsible for ALL the eggs, because of NINHO and because of the presidency. that's not really related to the karma thing i think people just neglect to realize how much forever has on his shoulders and how much he actually cares about everyones welfare and especially that of the eggs. everyone is so hung up on 4halo having pissing contests over voting systems that they forget that forever works his ass off for the presidency and he does it because he gives a shit about everyone on the island and wants to make people happy. like, he didn't run because of a power trip or whatever. he ran because he genuinely had a lot of ideas for what to do with the server and thought he would make a good leader. sorry lost the point of this post i just get annoyed when people completely mischaracterize forever because they think he's like power hungry or whatever, and it happens a lot on here even though i acknowledge twitter is a slightly different beast.

anyway yeah i genuinely cannot fathom looking at that kind of grief and deciding that actually that's morally fair. like, okay, i hope you understand what kind of carceral bullshit that sounds like. and yeah the just punishment for saying some unkind things is being FUCKING DRUGGED AGAINST YOUR WILL AFTER YOUR CHILD WAS KIDNAPPED. like ffs people

#asks #littleseasalt

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poltergeist-coffee · 7 months

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WHY DO THINGS ONLY HAPPENS WHEN I LEAVE THE STREAM???

Is the third time, man

First that time when TazerCraft got arrested my phone died and when I came back there was just a fire (and Morse code? I don't remember rn)

Second was when the eggs disappeared and Forever was losing his mind, I WAS ON THAT STREAM FOR 6 HOURS AND CUCURUCHO ONLY SHOWED HIS FACE QHEN I LEFT HECAUSE I HAD TO PUT MY PHONE ON THE CHARGER

And now I had to leave because it was 1am and I was taking a shower

The lore hates me

Pacman duo enjoyers don't have a easy life

Timezones be damned

But I think is fun to think about them, Etoiles is the person everybody trust when it come to fight, he's basically the champion of the island, the first one in the lines of fight, the island's first line of defense(which is what made that time he lost a fight to the codes hit so hard)

And Pac? Well, among the Brazilians, he is the fighter. But if something would need someone to sacrife themselves, he would be the first to offer himself. He has a lack of sense of self-preservation honestly, he would sacrifice himself without hesitation if needed. He's scared, he's traumatized, and mostly, his miss his family being complete. When Forever got drugged he risked himself to find a cure, even if he wasn't sure if he would be okay, and when Bagi and him were talking about bbh being suspect and was giving him cake and by his point of view it looked like he was going to be kidnapped? He ate the cake regardless, Wich Bagi had to come and get him(bbh didn't even know the cake would make him sleep but from Pac pov it seemed so much like he was going to be kidnapped)

At least for me there some similarities between them and they are a fun duo in any case

The day Bobby lost his first life in the air ship I was watching Roier and Jaiden's stream. I had left to go wash my hair and I remember hearing my brother yell at me from outside the bathroom that bobby died KJNSAJKAVNS I was so confused until I got out

Most time lore happens now I miss it unless it's on a weekend because I'm a fulltime student TT the qsmp lore hates us fr, plate anon

Whenever I think of pacmanduo i think of when a bunch of the players were fighting in that ice dungeon. I remember seeing a clip of Pac being SUPER CALM like he was so chill and just chatting with etoiles like it was nothing while fighting off all the enemies and everyone else was SCREAMING jndvkas i want to find the vod to watch it again because i wasn't watching either of them when that event happened

I think its interesting that Pac is such a strong righter but like no one really mentions it? I think yesterday Etoiles mentioned that like he's on the same level as him, Philza and Roier in terms of like PVP? idk hes such a silly guy he just needs to recognize his self worth <//3 HIM AND QETOILES BOTH WITH THE SELF WORTH ISSUES!! qetoiles thinks he's nothing if he can't protect the islanders + without his code weapons and stuff. qpac is also the same that he thinks if he were to die it would be the best? like the Favela/island would lose less because he's not as valuable as the other players WHICH ISN'T TRUE!!! QPAC PLEEEEEASE!!!!

-holding them both gently in my hands- i love them. i also am never forgetting how qpac use to always flirt with qetoiles because it amuses me so much. hes so cute he's a silly guy who likes attention (qpac)

#✉️ asks or whatever #🍽️ anon

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docterzerocare · 7 months

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hey, so uh. learned that q!Phil came back, and got inspired to write a thing with an oc, q!Dandy! :] my lil unicorn single parent <3 also, q!Dandy would make 100% make sure that The Federation can't gaslight Phil into believing that this shit didn't happen. they didn't freak out about if Phil was alright or not just to have The Federation just fuck with Phil's memories.

anyway, have The Concerned Parents Reuniting and Dandy Going Off To Potentially Get Kidnapped Kill A White Bear :)

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She heard that Phil had come back, and she doesn't think that she's ran over to his house so fast before.

Except when she first learned that Snapdragon had gone missing, because surely Phil knew where they were, right?

He didn't. Even worse, Snappy wasn't the only missing kid on the island...

They threw open the door to his house, hearing him let out a surprised 'caw' and seeing a few stray feathers go flying. He walks over to where Phil is, and he feels horrified at the sight in front of him.

Phil looked like shit, to put it bluntly. Bags under his eyes, red and puffy eyes from crying, and patchy, bloody wings.

Birds pull out their feathers when stressed, it remembers reading once. How stressed had he been? Had he even realized he'd been doing it?

While it's standing there, its son gasps in surprise. "Mr. Phil! You're back!" Ralphie excitedly rambles. He's about to rush over to hug the man before Dandy gently holds him back.

"Careful, Sweetie. Mr. Phil is hurt," xe quietly whispers to him, eyeing the avian's bloodied wings.

Phil gives a weak smile. "I-It's fine, mate. Just stings a little, that's all." A bit hesitant, Dandy carefully releases Ralphie, who then walks over to Phil and gives a gentle, yet firm squeeze hug. "We've missed you."

Xe stands there for a moment, a tired smile on xeir face. Before long, however, that smile fades into a frosty, cold look of rage. Phil stared at xem, concerned. "Uh...Dandy-?"

"That fucking bear did this, didn't he?"

Phil freezes. He's seen Dandy angry before. Really angry. He saw it when they walked in on ElQuackity standing over a creeper crater where Snapdragon once stood. Emphasis on once. Jaiden had to hold her back, as she screamed at him ("MY BABY! MY BABY BOY! SNAPPY- WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO?!"). Despite how hard ElQ had tried to insist that Snappy's death had been pure accident-wrong place, wrong time-Dandy didn't believe him. Phil has heard stories about Dandy having stabbed ElQ before he vanished off to fuck knows where and Quackity was returned to them.

Jaiden wasn't there to save him that time, that was for sure.

The other time...well, Phil witnessed that one first hand. And boy, has he heard that cold, calm tone of voice from Dandy before.

And unsurprisingly, it was also during a conversation involving Cucurucho.

(The unicorn stood before the bear, glaring up at them, ears flattened, and tail lashing. "If you so much a harm a hair on my son's head, and if I ever find out that you had something to do with my little Snapdragon being gone, then I'll burn that fancy building of yer's with you inside of it, ya hear me?"

Cucurucho just stares at them. "Ha ha ha. :)")

He tries to deescalate things a bit. "Dandy-"

"He was, wasn't he?" He sounds pissed, not that Phil can blame him. "You know, I thought it was a coincidence, with Big Q and all. But then it was Jaiden...then Snappy...and now it's you."

Still holding onto Ralphie, he seems scared, specifically for what's potentially about to happen to them. "Dandy look, I know that you're pissed-"

"Darn right I'm pissed, Phil!" She sighs. Taking a deep breath, she walks over to Ralphie and picks him up. She has a sad look in her eyes.

"Ralphie, Sweetheart, Mama has to go do something."

He tilts his head. "What's that, Mama?"

"I just...need to go talk to someone." She hands him to Phil. "If I don't come back, you'll stay with Tubbo, Mr. Bad, and Mr. Phil, okay?"

"Mama?" He sounds worried.

She smiles. "No matter what anyone tells you, Mama loves you, Sweetie. Can you promise me that you'll never forget that?"

He smiles up at him. "Of course, Mama!"

With that all settled, he stands up. Phil sets Ralphie down before moving after him. "Dandy, Dandy, don't do this, you know what happened to me-"

"I don't care, Phil, I'm sick of this shit."

As Dandy heads back out the door, a clear purpose in mind, Phil tries to follow after xem. "What are you even going to do, mate?"

Xe turns back before heading off to who knows where. There's a fury in xeir eyes. "To kill that fucking bear, hopefully."

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q!Dandy is pissed.

Oh damn 👀

#hell ya dandy go off king

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