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#I think that Olicity in the first couple seasons are cute as heck
sbd-laytall · 6 months
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callistawolf · 6 years
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my Arrow 7x06 thoughts
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That was... a heck of an episode. I spent 3/4 of it upsettingly confused and the last 1/4 of it utterly enthralled. That sort of encapsulates Arrow as a whole, doesn’t it? Like, your average Arrow season these days is 3/4 “what the hell is this all about” and 1/4 “ohhhh my god i get it now, that was AWESOME.” And while I love the awesome, I sorta wish there was more consistency and less relying on the ending to save the whole pie, ya know? 
Anyhow, here we go: 
Poor Anatoly. He was rotten last season but he doesn’t deserve this.
Listen… jerkoff dragon boy. Oliver is in Slabside. He’s already destroyed.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY RUSSIAN BAE?!?
Stan’s still fangirling on Oiver. Just another day in prison.
Poor Oliver expects to see Felicity and gets…. SIREN. What a downgrade. HIS FACE IS SO DISAPPOINTED. 😂
Their bickering pleases me. He’s just SO NOT HERE FOR HER.
I had a moment where I was all “listen, Oliver, stop being a jerk and just let her help get you out of prison” and then I realized how ridiculous it was cuz Siren deserves his scorn.
That said I WANT HIM OUT OF PRISON. YESTERDAY.
I have priorities, people. I feel I’m pretty clear about them. Him back with Felicity first, the rest can be dealt with later. 
Okay Siren comparing him to the E2 Oliver is just stupid. it’s not his fault Diaz got away, you dime store villain and you know it.
STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE. I love this song.
Oh good. Flash forwards. 😬🙈
A couple weeks ago. LIKE THREE MAYBE?!? LOL like when the Hozen started up? Coincidence? I THINK NOT. 
Murdered. Hmm.
The Calculator. Hmm.
So not buying this, by the way. It’s a nice story, Dinah, but I’m a bit disappointed you didn’t even TRY to provide any proof of this. 
Also… love the line they’re drawing between this and the current day.
William, how are you believing she’s actually dead? Did he ask Dinah if she SAW THE BODY?! No he did not.
But GOOD ON HIM not stopping now. He’ll find out she’s alive. Eventually. 
THE ENTIRE BRATVA?! 😂that’s… like Curtis having 14 PHDs tho. So yeah no. Nice try. 
Felicity frustrated that Oliver won’t let Laurel represent him… hehe. But, darling, what did you expect?
I don’t like Siren but I still enjoy this teamup. And I enjoy Rene’s incredulous reaction to it. Rene is all of us. YOU TWO ARE FRIENDS NOW?!?
Also: Rene still gets points for helping Felicity. Where’s DIGGLE THO?!
Ahh there’s Dig. And Dinah. AND ANATOLY. and a bomb. YOW.
So it was a trap.
Dig you cannot be upset about Felicity working with Siren given EVERYTHING. Are you kidding me right now?!
And there’s fucknut Curtis worried about his birthday. SMEH. There’s a regrettable villain on the loose and Felicity’s husband is in prison getting lobotomized but LOL YOUR BIRTHDAY IS SUPES IMPORTANT. Asshat. 
Felicity begging Siren is tugging my heartstrings. I FEEL SO BAD FOR MY BABY. FREE HER HUSBAND.
So William knows Zoe pretty well. Easier to move on than hold on. HMM. WHere is Oliver. IS HE DEAD TOO?! LOL
“He’s Oliver’s son.” “That is exactly what worries me.” WHAT HAPPENED. That is literally my first reaction. WHAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO?!?
Stan is laying this sob story on pretty thick. 😑
Diaz wants to destroy the city. YAWN. THat’s so five seasons ago.
Felicity threatening Anatoly is delightful. But also I’m getting worried for my bae. She’s unraveling. She needs Oliver. 
Felicity… find your sunshine. Too much dark…. is not good. I’m not saying she CAN’T play with the darkness but also that... I don’t want her to do something she’ll regret later. We’ve seen what guilt has done to Oliver. 
NOOO SAVE ANATOLY
FELICITY. You should be more concerned about ANATOLY’S LIFE.
Oh good, Anatoly is fine. Dig… talk to your girl. YOu’ve neglected her too much. SHE NEEDS HELP. LOOK AT HER. THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
Wait. No. You gave up Dig. Don’t rewrite history here.
Okay Dig is pissing me off. Where does he get off judging her? He’s supposed to HELP her, not shame her. 
Siren might not be a real lawyer but she’s making a good case here. At least for me. Then again how can she talk about what it takes to be a hero? YOU A VILLAIN BABY.
But yes, “Oliver Queen deserves to be a free man” I agree with that. I will always agree with that. My priorities are clear here. 
NO LET HIM GO YOU COWARDS
Apologizing to Anatoly is a good start, Felicity.
Also can I just say I LOVE THEM SHARING A SCENE? The me from s2 is THRILLED. Remember when I just wanted Anatoly and Felicity to acknowledge each other??
Uhm this is bad advice Anatoly. Don’t encourage her to kill Diaz. But also... is anyone getting any “flash forward” vibes off this? What did Felicity do in the future? Did she go ruthless?
LOL at Siren going after the judge for not ruling for her.  Pretty villainous.
uh oh… future Felicity is targeting their asses.
That’s a pretty genius way to turn off the security.
Wait… FELICITY was gonna level Star City?! Hahahaha, okay but also... no. If she was, there was a good reason. Otherwise, let’s not just assume the worst DINAH. 
I’m so damn confused. What the hell is going on.
I do like everyone working together in the present though. That’s good to see. For a change. A LITTLE LATE THO. 
GET FREAKING DIAZ DAMMIT.
This is pretty fraught. I’m tense watching this fight.
OOoh New GA showed up anyhow. YAS.
So the Longbow Hunters get away but they HAVE DIAZ YAS.
I LOVE THIS SONG. BEHIND BARS! YAS. GO EMIKO! lol
Curtis shut up. Looking back over these notes, I have NO idea what this was referencing but I’m sure he deserved it. He always does. He should just always shut up. I’m so beyond done with that guy. LEAVE MY SHOW. 
Poor Felicity. She’s not happy. This doesn’t fix anything for her.
I’m afraid she wanted him dead.
LOL I love when Oliver digs at Siren not being a lawyer.
He’d rather eat shit than thank her, that’s clear. LOL
Does Oliver have Felicity in a box? Is she in the “good” box and he’s gonna not enjoy realizing she’s not in that box at all?
Awww… Felicity gave Anatoly a way to get away. That’s so cute. I love her so much.
“these past few years”. So it hasn’t been 22 years since he’s seen her, guys. There ya go.
I gotta know who Blackstar is. Is it Maya? Tell me it’s Maya. 
“I liked you better with pink hair.” Dammit Diaz. But also LOL everyone liked her pink hair. 
FELICITY DON’T DO IT.
Dude. This is juicy af.
I knew Siren would stop her. Are they like switching alignments or something??
They need Diaz to help Oliver… OHHH A TRADE. OH SHIT.
THANK FUCKING CHRIST
HAHAH ohhhh nooooo
OH STAN ARE YOU EVIL SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
SO WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG goddammit
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So okay. Wow. Those flashforwards were actually not too bad this time. I feel like we got some good information out of them. Some good clues. And GUYS, the FERN was in her little lair and she used Oliver’s favorite training method as a security protocol and there’s just OLICITY stamped all over this. I love my ship. Their impact. Wow. 
Also, how amazing is it that Felicity is such a FOCUS right now? In the present AND in the future? It’s just... incredible. We are truly watching Felicity and Friends right now and I could not be happier. That said the “friends” are kinda... that’s pushing it. About 70% of these people could be doing a LOT MORE. Especially Diggle. I want my old Dig back. Why is he acting like this?? GAH. Anyhow. So good. Next week: prison hijinks. For the last time, hopefully. 
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geneshaven · 6 years
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Grounded (Arrow 613)
After watching 613, I kept thinking how a lot of the characters on Arrow (sans Oliver, Felicity and John) should be grounded and sent to their rooms. Leading the pack is William and the Newbies. And maybe the writers as well, for the lame way they killed off Cayden James and slipped in Diaz as if no one would notice the tepid turnstile the villains came through this season.
So, William sneaks out of the Bunker after Oliver told him to stay put, that it’s dangerous out there. He shows up in the field and cries about being scared and not wanting to lose his dad like he did his mom on Lian Yu. Thanks for that reminder, William. Oliver needed to stay focused while he faced the bad guy and William uses his dead mother as a justification for following his dad. Did Felicity’s talk with him in 611 mean nothing? Did she not convince the lad that what Oliver does is dangerous? After 611 and the heartfelt family feels, William seemed to have a handle on his dad’s vigilante lifestyle, that he understood why Oliver is out there protecting those he loves and the city they live in. Felicity told him that he (as she does) has to believe Oliver is going to be okay. William conceded to this and appeared willing to follow in his step-mom’s footsteps.
Does William not trust Felicity or John or Auntie Thea? Does the boy not understand what Team means? All four of his new family members (and yes, I am including John) have knocked on death’s door. They understand what it means to have one another’s back. They understand that they are stronger together than on their own. It is all about trust---and faith. So disregarding the team’s safety because William was afraid---it doesn’t track.
So William, you’re grounded.
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The Newbies. Since they went their separate ways and created their own facsimile of a Team, I have felt nothing for them but a slow burn. Their self-righteous, we-are-the-victims mentality is one of the most ridiculous storylines Arrow has served up. Okay, I’ll just say it---without Oliver’s influence and guidance, Curtis and Rene and Dinah would still be adrift in the mess of their lives, angry and in pain and without direction, without a  place and purpose to channel it through.
Rene is the worst of the three. He was wearing hockey gear before Oliver brought him into the fold. He was running in blind (aka Barry’s early days) and taking on the villains who were clearly elevated in skills and tactics and just plain menace. I mean come on; Anatoly got the drop on him and shot Rene with his own gun. Apparently, the writers would have us believe that Rene lost track of and the reasons for trusting and being loyal to Oliver when he caved in under the pressure and manipulations of Agent Watson. He should have trusted Oliver the same way Oliver trusted him. He should have instinctively known that Oliver has his back. The Green Arrow has saved Rene’s ass multiple times. But over the last couple of episodes, Rene has become a stranger to what he was becoming under  Oliver’s tutelage.  He was doing well at the Mayor’s Office, as well as part of Oliver’s elite team of vigilantes. He was almost close to becoming endearing to some of the fanbase who has hated him from the start. Wasn’t it Oliver who saved him from Church? Wasn’t it Oliver who risked his own life going over that highway overpass to rescue Rene before he was crushed from the fall? Wasn’t it Oliver who cleaned up the mess Rene created by going solo after Samson? And wasn’t it Oliver who opened the door again on winning back Zoe? The way Rene is now blaming Oliver for all that is bad in his life, (most of which he created himself) warrants canceling his Team membership card.
So Rene, you’re grounded.
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Curtis, as always, has been written so poorly. Okay, if you roll the series back two years, Curtis had some promise at the start of Season 4, but the episodes were few and far between. He had tech skills. He was married (happily?) He did develop Felicity’s chip that made her walk again. He hacked a bunch of bees and saved the day. And if I remember correctly, Oliver inspired him to stay in Star City and fight for his home.
We all knew (via the comics) that Curtis was going to morph into Mr. Terrific; T-Spheres and all. I remember there being a sense of excitement by this. But at the start of Season 5, after being beat up by street thugs, Curtis was already putting conditions on Oliver bringing him onto the Team. Oliver asked him if he could identify the ruffians who whooped his ass. Curtis said yes and he will happily tell him--- under one condition. Oliver was right in his assessment that Curtis had the least amount of experience then the rest of the candidates when it came to mixing it up with the criminal element of Star City. His nightly beatings cast doubt over his ability to hold his own. He lost heart. Then he lost Paul (maybe he blames Oliver for that too.)  Then he lost his appeal.
I won’t even get into the writer’s thinking he could fill Felicity’s computer and hacking shoes. I think they tried too when she was plummeting down her rabbit hole, but it was only annoying and felt just wrong.
There was one more instant when Curtis tried to be appealing to the fanbase. It was in 520. He brought, or had Oliver pick up, Chinese food and bring it back to the Bunker to go with wine in the garage.  (Clearing my throat)….He brought our OTP together. Okay, it was a flashback, but we got some nice Bunker sex out of it. So good on you Curtis.
Now, he has added indignation and being a professional victim to his resume. He has sided with a traitor (Rene) and a secret-keeper that could have compromised the Team (Dinah.)  All of them broke the #1 rule in vigilanteing---trusting one another.
Curtis, you’re grounded.
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Dinah. I’m sort of on the fence where she is concerned. On one side, Dinah has blown away any doubts of who the more effective Black Canary is on the show. Her fighting skills make Laurel Lance look like she is slap-fighting her opponents. Dinah is more fluid and is one mean mother with the staff she uses. Her fights are just more exciting to watch.  And her sonic cry? Come on, really? She can stop a speeding train with it. Laurel could muster up a loud noise to disrupt her opponents hearing, and she could occasionally cause glass to shatter. So yeah, I am way more of a Dinah fan for reasons.
Having said that, the whole Vigilante/Vince thing kind of seemed last minute to me. When Vigilante came on the scene last year, even then I did not really invest myself in him. Maybe it was because I was in numb disbelief over what was happening with Olicity.  Then Vigilante went away and Adrian Chase became all the eggs in the bad guy basket. Did the writers already envision Vigilante’s part to play in Season 6?
(Me speaking for the writers--- (“Okay, let’s bring Vigilante back. Wait, even better, let’s make it Dinah’s ex. Yeah; he was killed the first time, but what if he was caught in the same meta wave that turned Dinah into a sonic badass? We can throw him in with Cayden James and Diaz and Anatoly and Black Siren. But we’ll also make him a double agent, with his old feelings for Dinah still intact. Hot damn, it will be some wonderful contrived drama and it will keep the fans guessing.”)
Uh sorry writers, but I could not climb aboard that toxic ship. I think it ruined the potential of Dinah being a good character. That is not set in stone---there are still ten episodes left, so who can tell at this point? And now because Vince was killed the second time by Black Siren, (a conflict of interest if there ever was one) Dinah has gone off the rails, the same kind of train wreck she was when Oliver convinced her to come  make a difference on his team. She wants revenge and is blinded by it. No more Mr. nice guy (uh, I mean girl.) No more self-reflection or trust or belief. Oliver made  all of it happen (through the pain surging through her mind) by calling her on keeping her new, reunited relationship with Vince a secret, an act that could have seriously hurt the team.
Dinah, you’re grounded.
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So, all the Newbies had a part in screwing the pooch. To them, it was Oliver who instigated their righteousness. Do any of them remember Evelyn? Do they remember being put in Gilligan’s Island style cages, and the island being blown up? Heck, Evelyn even gave them all cute, handmade Christmas stockings. They might as well have been filled with razor blades.
So yeah, Oliver put you all under surveillance. He was not going to be compromised in that way again. Maybe the question he should ask the rookies is---if one of them (say Rene) decided to throw the other two under the bus to save themselves, wouldn’t  you want to know what each was doing.  Wouldn’t you want to see it coming? It’s pretty simple for the kind of lives all of them lead. Oliver made some pretty harsh sacrifices over the years to keep integrity in his crusade. Apparently, the Newbies are not willing to go as far.
Episode 614 looks like all this is going to come full circle. Hopefully it will end this awful storyline and put everybody back on track for a strong finish to the season. If Dinah and Rene and Curtis can realize that they bit off more than they can chew by taking on OTA, maybe taking a bite of that humble pie will fulfill  their hungers of becoming stronger than what might be out there that could destroy them. And it doesn’t include blaming the ones who invited you to the crusade.
One quick note…Lance has completely gone up around the bend. Maybe it’s time for another intervention, before Black Siren (not Laurel) shows him that drinking is safer than listening to her BS.
Lance, you’re grounded.
Everybody is grounded.
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