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autumnslance · 2 days

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There was that bit in ARR where you return from a quest, the scions had prepared a feast for you but then ate it all before you could arrive, right? I cant for the life of me remember WHEN/which quest that happened in and I'd appreciate your help in reminding me.

I can no longer find part of it either; it seems Garland Tools has cleared out a lot of incidental/side dialogue, nor did the FFXIV Game Script seem to capture it.

I know there was a "WoL's mindset in ARR patches" post recently mentioning it in a reblog comment, and I do think the analysis has merit with the lore backing mentioned, but to call it a "prepared feast the Scions ate without WoL" or that "everyone else was more important" (as the reblog addition puts it) is honestly, I feel, a gross overstatement of what happens in optional dialogue between quests.

In very old screenshots, as WoL returns to the Rising Stones, I found a line where F'lhaminn apologizes to WoL as she thought she made enough food for everyone, but everyone else coming in from their own adventures and assignments were also really hungry.

There's the dialogue with Nanamo praying just before this in the screenshot log, so I want to say it's right after "Let Us Cling Together" when Eline Roaille escaped and then had to be recaptured in a solo instance, while the other Scions are investigating the ways to make white auracite work to defeat the Ascians. WoL hasn't even been in Mor Dhona for a bit (a day or several, depending how one decides to run one's timelines and teleporting travel), but in Thanalan dealing with Roaille's escape.

So it's really just a case of the folks in the kitchen not having enough meals readily on hand, and F'lhaminn kinda feels bad about it as 1) it's her entire self-determined job and 2) IIRC, she did mention something about having a meal ready for WoL when they got home, but by the time the quest is over, it's clear she underestimated.

Also, after the quest shifts to the next one ("Good Intentions"), talking to Tataru has her say this:

So it's not that the Scions are being intentional jerks to the WoL--it was entirely an aside in optional click dialogue, and mostly an honest mistake (and perhaps meant to be a bit comedic, but falls somewhat flat) of kitchen staff underestimating their adventurer colleagues' appetites and not preparing enough.

#final fantasy xiv #A Realm Reborn #F'lhaminn Qesh #Warrior of Light #Scions of the Seventh Dawn #Screenshots #chatlogs #Alt text

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dawntrailing · 5 months

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WELCOME HOME!

#final fantasy series #final fantasy xiv #ffxiv #final fantasy xiv: endwalker #g'raha tia #livingway #urianger augurelt #puddingway #alisaie leveilleur #tataru taru #thancred waters #warrior of light #meteor survivor #y'shtola rhul #krile mayer baldesion #estinien varlineau #alphinaud leveilleur #ffxivedits #scions of the seventh dawn

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krintou-squids · 1 year

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Of the Seventh Dawn

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estinininininen · 4 months

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Vrtra really said "Even here have we heard of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn" like he wasn't having Thavnair intelligence scooping up every detail of anything and everything to do with Louisoix Leveilleur the second he heard Bahamut hatched and was ready to glass Eorzea and Some? Mortal??? from Sharlayan managed to almost tank the blow

Ahewann, sprinting out of the meghaduta into the town square: I Need The Sharlayan Ambassador Right The Fuck Now

Five, six years later and the intel squads say the Scions have imploded, except whoops no they haven't they've snuck out of the regicide accusations into Ishgard and have disappeared into Dravania trying to end the Dragonsong War? pffff yeah good luck with that Nidhogg's been filling up my inbox for a thou- WAIT WHAT? WHO?? AND THE LEVEILLEUR GRANDSON???

Ahewann, sprinting straight to the Ishgardian consulate without stopping: Hey Uh Can You Tell Me What, and please understand this is very important, The Fuck

Then for a short bit family matters quiet down, again, maybe. Estinien "Not Not Nidhogg" Wyrmblood passes through Thavnair but moves on to Othard pretty quickly. Ahewann gratefully takes off his running shoes and Vrtra peels himself off the ceiling like a scared cat from worrying which would be worse to meet, Estinien or Nidhogg. Midgardsormr dies again but that's less of a big deal than it should be, he'll sleep it off. Tiamat is suddenly flying again for the first time in five millenia so that's . . . good, the world is ending but that's good at least. Estinien Wyrmblood may or may not have joined the Scions, no one can get a solid confirmation. Anyway he's got to get these scales to the alchemists, the Baldesion reps are coming soon, he can't focus on his own family drama right now-

He looks up and standing before him is an Archon astrologian in a bathrobe, another Archon nerd cosplaying as a gunbreaker, two Archons oh this must be the Baldesion group, [INSERT INSANE PLAYER CHARACTER APPEARANCE], well they look . . . interesting, are they imitating the Warrior of Light? and an Ishgardian dra -

Vrtra, malms away in the meghaduta: A

Vrtra: Ahewann

Vrtra: Ahewann we've got a Code Leveilleur situation here

Ahewann: What?

Vrtra: THE SCIONS ARE HERE

Vrtra: ESTINIEN WYRMBLOOD IS H E R E

Vrtra: GET YOUR SHOES ON AHEWANN HOW DID WE MISS THIS

Ahewann, spilling curry down his front, bursting out of the throne room with laces untied: Hey Everybody Come Help Me Throttle The Spymaster

#ahewann #estinien #vrtra #louisoix leveilleur #scions of the seventh dawn #estinien wyrmblood #the first brood #estinien varlineau #ffxiv endwalker

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plounce · 4 months

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scions ranked by most likely to eat a rat

thancred (duh. eat what you can eat. just cook it to make it safer, no big, and if you can get a couple herbs to season it, even better. definitely ate a rat or two out in the dravanian hinterlands. nutkin is lucky it got away without a bite taken out of it)

estinien (doesn't see anything wrong with it. would eat it raw)

ryne (thancred tried to find them more substantial, palatable food, but sometimes when you're living on the run… rat meat. she doesn't have a ton of hangups about it - literally any food besides prison rations is novel and exciting to her - but it's not the tastiest, and anyway she's found she likes sweet foods more)

y'shtola (the night's blessed probably threw some rats in the cookpot every so often. girl's gotta eat when she's living in a benign forest cult. has not eaten rats before or since)

alisaie (extremely easily dared into almost anything including eating a rat. plus would see alphinaud being squeamish about it and make a point to go MMMMM-MM SOOOO YUMMY even if she didn't like it)

g'raha (wouldn't think to eat a rat on his own, but extremely susceptible to "if everyone else is doing it, i want to be part of the group!" or if you threatened him with "someone else will have to eat this rat if you don't!!" he'll shove the rat in his mouth so fast.)

lyse (similar to alisaie in that she's easily dared, but she has no sibling (anymore) to engage in rat-eating rivalry with)

minfilia (the sort of person to go along with a lot of stuff in the name of being friendly. if someone sincerely offered her a cooked rat she wouldn't have it in her to turn it down and would take a polite bite)

alphinaud (the little lordling does Not want to eat a rat! foul! no! but if estinien was like "hey want a bite" then it is much more likely that alphinaud will try to look cool in front of his pseudo-big-brother and sample the rat)

tataru (no no no! no, absolutely not! she will NOT be eating a rat. this is why she stays AWAY from the front. but also she could whip up something scrumptious with some rat meat if she must)

urianger (this is not one of his safe foods. he doesn't wanna. he doesn't wanna. you can't make him. he's gonna find an excuse to mysteriously vanish)

krile (if you try to make her eat a rat she's gonna disappear like the isle of val.)

#chirps #ffxiv #scions of the seventh dawn

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cloudpalettes · 4 months

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some scones

#ffxiv #ff14 #final fantasy 14 #final fantasy xiv #scions of the seventh dawn #ffxiv scions #y'shtola rhul #urianger augurelt #thancred waters #alisaie leveilleur #alphinaud leveilleur #GUYS !!!!! I LOVE THEM !!!!!!#beloved scones #guess who just finished shadowbringers 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯#the trajectory of my life changed forever #i have many shb wips which means im still cooking !!!!!!!!!#will be served later lemme just absorb everything that happened #i cried btw #i need to release everything I've felt when i played the expac

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soulpunchftw · 1 year

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The Scions of the Seventh Dawn are a great group of characters because they’re canonically a bunch of weird postdocs, the two kids they adopted, an admin assistant with probable mafia connections, and an angry himbo, and they all freeload off of their only employable friend (you)

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sapphire-scarletta-wol · 2 months

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I just had this thought awhile ago and now I am curious to see what y'all would think.

Imagine a scenario where they have to fight the Wol with all their strength,maybe the Wol got possessed(again),lost control,or whatever final fantasy shenanigans would happen,which of them would have the best chance of defeating the Wol?

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Edit: I forgot editing posts exist so imma just put this in here too

So I didn't expect this to blow up this BIG

But thank you to all the interactions even if it's just a poll,it's been fun reading all the tags and such!

I just want to give a little update thought on this as the tags and reblogs gave great points on all sides.

Mostly I was thinking of a situation where the Wol does not need to be killed,rather just pacified or beaten up enough to make them return to their normal self.

I still think raha is the strongest and best candidate for this,he has the CT on his side,an all rounder,knows the Wol incredibly well,has 300+ years of experience,has matured a lot as the exarch,mayhaps even be an 8th rejoined shard,made time travel and world hopping basically possible,and a handful of other powerful tricks and spells on his sleeve.

In the case of a situation of killing the Wol,I believe raha would have a much harder time as of course he would never ever want to do that ever and would rather die first than think of that so either estinien or y'shtola is the better candidate.

The answer also changes depending on the specific Wol one has

( in my case,sapphire is a monk and a dark knight,but is incredibly dense as lyse.she would be too fast for y'shtola to properly finish her spells though she is a lot smarter and could easier use tactics to confuse her,estinien could hold his own against her but would be defeated nonetheless.even with nidhoggs power we have defeated him once so when it comes to pure strength,Wol beats him. Lastly comes raha,he is incredibly smart and just as versatile with 3 classes to keep in pace with her,combine that with his intellect and he can form a plan while defending himself long enough to either deal enough damage to her or bring her back to normal.that or prolly have someone else do the final blow.)

I would like to formally apologize to alphinaud as it took him 1k votes for someone to finally vote him,I did not mean to bully you 😞

#ff14 #final fantasy 14 #ffxiv wol #ffxiv #final fantasy xiv #ff14 poll #scions of the seventh dawn #warrior of light #ff14 questions #personally without any bias i believe graha would be the best chance #i mean he literally has the crystal tower by his side #and all the stuff he has done in the past #i guess we will be able to see in dawntrail anyhow with that tournament going on

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agui-chart · 5 months

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Finally at home...

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zellk · 5 months

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FFXIV Mitas & Anma with their bff amongst the Scions !

Lyse & Mitas : The one braincell punch bffs. Tbh they liked each other from the get-go, but through Stormblood Mitas really grew to be one of Lyse's close friends (he admires her resilience and mental strength a lot). He regularly goes to visit her!!!

Thancred & Anma : The 'older siblings' of the Scions. Together they take on missions & duties they'd rather not have the others do. The dirtiest and most dangerous. But they're always there to get each other out. Or at least keep each other company in the pit.

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roseopheliaxiv · 8 months

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The Scions try the jumping puzzle!

#ffxiv gpose #ffxiv screenies #final fantasy xiv #ffxiv #eorzeaphotos #ff14 #ffxiv screenshots #gpose #finalfantasyxiv #ff14ss #ffxiv scions #scions of the seventh dawn

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kyotospartyart · 1 year

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Scions and Scion-adjacents

#ff14 #ffxiv #scions of the seventh dawn #ryne x gaia #ryne #gaia #thancred #urianger #alphinaud #alisaie

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yozora · 5 months

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this is the vibe to me

#ffxiv #final fantasy xiv #thancred waters #y’shtola rhul #urianger augurelt #thancred #y’shtola #urianger #scions of the seventh dawn #ff14 #final fantasy 14 #*mine

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ooeygooeyghoul · 7 months

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Okay so like, can we all agree that this was one of the coolest ways for them to show all the things happening at once in this section? Who made these. Who's out here making lifelike mini-figures of the Scions.

#ffxiv #ff14 #final fantasy xiv #ffxiv endwalker #endwalker spoilers #ffxiv spoilers #for fun #scions of the seventh dawn #and can I order like 3 of each of them please and thank you

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estinininininen · 3 months

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FFXIV fans this is your daily reminder that if Estinien has even a tiny fraction of Nidhogg's memories he knows a hell of a lot more than he's letting on.

Nidhogg remembers at least three Umbral Calamities, and probably four or five. Safe to assume he defended Coerthas from Allag, and that he heard Vrtra looking for Azdaja and the primal-ification of Bahamut through dragon song. The DRG 80 quest states Nidhogg considered himself guardian of the star after Midgardsormr. At his prime, Nidhogg may have even known or been trying to learn his father's abilities - the changing form, the crystals, possibly even the ability to speak with Hydaelyn. Theory time: Hydaelyn may have even rejected him for being a dragon supremacist.

Estinien's shortcomings (if you don't have another silly explanation for them) have to do with mortal knowledge and interactions, like niceties, coin, and bluffing immigration officers. He asks for the Scions to explains things because they have discovered stuff nobody knew before this, or they were using vocabulary he doesn't know.

In Shadowbringers the idea of Ascians doesn't phase him, but the different shards and time travel nonsense throw him for a bit of a loop, coincidentally things Nidhogg wouldn't know. He is very tense at the idea of the WOL seeing his memories, and leaves immediately, but after telling you he shares Nidhogg's memories in 5.5 he chills out and hangs around more. Like he saw the writing on the wall about joining the Scions and covered his own ass in case of an Echo vision.

In Endwalker the reason I think he said "At least I will not pretend to understand this talk of ancient primals or the Final Days" and the like is because he has to constantly sort out if what Nidhogg knew was correct. He is remarkably chill staring up at Hydaelyn like "ya bitch let's go let's fight God." What Hydaelyn said to Estinien about hate becoming love is ambiguous enough it could also apply to Nidhogg.

And you are still the only person he has directly told he shares some memories with Nidhogg. He is deliberately not sharing this with people. He doesn't want to be Nidhogg. Most of the information is pointless outside of Coerthas in the 7th astral era. He makes an exception when he is the only one who knows something important - there's a Great Wyrm behind the curtain, how to motivate depressed dragons, the Eyes of Nidhogg are active again better find them, Omega? wait the thing that chased Midgardsormr? if not me better make sure someone handles it, oh shit Zenos is standing back up that's not Zenos anymore-

Then he just wants to have a drink and some dried squid and chill out. Not get interrogated about past kingdoms, or have his brain and eyes poked at when he dies ( . . . if he's even mortal anymore.)

#estinien varlineau #estinien #estinien wyrmblood #ffxiv nidhogg #scions of the seventh dawn #ffxiv endwalker spoilers #heavensward #ffxiv spoilers #first brood #great wyrms #nidhogg #bahamut ffxiv #vrtra

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vytamins · 1 year

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have you hugged a scion today?

#ffxiv #final fantasy xiv #yshtola #thancred #alisaie #alphinaud #tataru #krile #estinien #urianger #graha tia #scions of the seventh dawn #sneaks a lil bit of wolgraha in there

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