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My Meet-Cute With Jonathan Majors Everyone seems to be in love with the newest MCU star. But he’s more than a pretty face. https://www.thecut.com/article/jonathan-majors-creed-antman-interview-profile.html
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adamkatzsinding · 4 years
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charissekenion · 2 years
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The on-going conversation around Skims with Darian Harvin
This week’s episode is essentially about Skims, Kim Kardashians’ cult status lingerie and loungewear line that is known for its pretty much perfect fit. However, it’s more of a starter conversation, as themes of body image, plastic surgery and race are just some of the themes that do come up when discussing Skims, and we can’t possibly cover everything in one episode. But the subject matter of Skims and why many black women feel uncomfortable about admitting they purchase them is definitely something that’s being talked about in certain circles, although so far, it’s not really being discussed by the masses.
I invited my guest Darian Harvin to discuss Skims with me because she's one of the people pushing the conversation - she's a beauty reporter and the host of Beauty Headlines on Clubhouse and has hosted a Clubhouse centred specifically on Skims, where she openly discussed why some black women often feel conflicted about supporting the brand. 
In this episode, I wanted to find out how Darian herself feels as a Skims-wearing person and if she could share any feedback from the Clubhouse she hosted. We ended up talking about choice, information and opinions and I think this is definitely something we could return to in the future.
I would love to know what you think; do you wear Skims, are you a fan of Kim – do you think we can separate a product from a person? Let me know over in the DMs and feel free to leave a voicenote at beautymepodcast on Instagram. I hope you enjoy! Be sure to check out Darian's newsletter here.
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The Kardashians’ Multiracial White Supremacy by Ren Ellis Neyra https://www.publicbooks.org/the-kardashians-multiracial-white-supremacy/
Kardashians’ Legacy of Blackfishing by Cady Lang: https://time.com/6072750/kardashians-blackfishing-appropriation/
I Hate How Much I Love My Skims by Tahirah Hairston: https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/skims-kim-kardashian-west.html
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Cover Girl 🌟 @maitreyiramakrishnan (Devi from Netflix’s @neverhaveiever ) for @teenvogue AUG21. We’ve finally caught up with S2 of @neverhaveiever and there were many laughs, cries, and left wondering WHEN IS SEASON 3 GONNA BE CONFIRMED??? We’ll keep it spoiler free, but @maitreyiramakrishnan has done an incredible job as a lead actress on the show, while advocating for representation in the media and production. We highly recommend reading her interview w/ @teenvogue for an in depth conversation but here are some snippets we loved: “I think everyone deserves that,” Maitreyi says, referring to the glee of living in a world where art mirrors your life. “My philosophy is, if you are so proud of your identity, whoever that may be, whether it's related to your culture, orientation, or anything in between — if you are so proud in that, that means it's a story that deserves to have screen time, because it's worth it. Clearly there's an audience, and that audience is you.” Later, when we are talking about the legacy of the women in her family, she revisits the question of milestones and major moments, and in true teenage fashion, changes her answer. Her biggest moment? Realizing how much influence she has with such a large stage. As she takes on the battles of being a young, brown girl in Hollywood and wins them all, Maitreyi thinks of the three generations of women she learned from while growing up. She believes she might just be on the precipice of her one step further” Photographer: Heather Sten Photo Assistant: William Wu Photo Assistant: Alexander Cody Nguyen Stylist: Herin Choi Stylist Assistant: Lily Zhang Hair Stylist: Rick Caroto Makeup Artist: Vivian Maxwell Manicurist: Aja Walton Set Designer: Megan Kiantos Set Design Assistant: Megan Nishiyama Art Director: Emily Zirimis Fashion Director: Tahirah Hairston Visual Editor: Louisiana Gelpi Video Director: Mi-Anne Chan Videographer: Wilson Cameron Words by @aaminasdfghjkl (at Los Angeles, California) https://www.instagram.com/p/CSewZ5qFZz2/?utm_medium=tumblr
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Leandra & Harling Debate: Is Getting Dressed Only Satisfying If Other People See It?
Have you signed up for MR Thoughtline yet? It’s Man Repeller’s new text-based service that lights up phone screens with good bits from around the internet, opportunities to chat with cool people, and digital recesses to help your mind take a break from the news in favor of a recipe, physical activity or, trust us, very useful WFH outfit ideas. Subscribe here.
This unusual time we’re living in puts our relationships with our own style under a new microscope, urging us to ask ourselves: Is the satisfaction of getting dressed in the act itself, or in the experience of the outfit being witnessed? Leandra and I have formed considerably different stances on this conundrum, so we convened for a healthy debate. —Harling
Leandra: I have been thinking about Edith’s question in last week’s editorial meeting, about whether the expectation of being seen by other people is the ultimate incentive to get dressed. Do you think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it?
Harling: I sure do.
Leandra: And I sure don’t. Let’s debate if you’re up for it. You try to convince me “yes” and I’ll try to convince you “no.”
Harling: Definitely up for it. Shall we begin?
Leandra: Yes.
Harling: Style is contingent upon other people seeing it because “style” as a concept implies that there’s a transaction taking place. Style is perception-based, right? So it only exists when it is perceived. Without visual dialogue, an outfit is just… clothes. I think you could say the same about writing an essay–it only becomes a story when someone else reads it. That’s why I haven’t felt motivated to put thought into what I’m wearing while in quarantine. Doing so would feel like asking a question even though no one is around to answer it–a waste of time! I definitely miss the effort of turning clothes into an outfit–which is to say, I miss the pursuit of style–but not to the extent that I’m interested in a watered-down version of it. It just wouldn’t feel the same. What about you?
Leandra: I think the answer depends on whether you consider my own perception as a part of the transaction you’re describing. Meaning: Does my perception of the outfit I’m wearing count? Because I don’t actually think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it. I get dressed in quarantine because I feel like shit when I don’t–it adds shape to my day in a way that is similar to meal planning, preparing, and consuming.
I don’t dress the same way I would if I were going out (though honestly, I feel so good when I put on jeans), but I’ve definitely applied the tenets of my personal style to the way I dress to: be home, go to the grocery store, take a walk, etc. I don’t think I get dressed for other people to see what I’m wearing–my mom used to basically chastise me for putting on “outfits” to stay home–but it doesn’t sound completely correct to say I’m not influenced by another person seeing what I’m wearing, so I’m trying to untangle that. Or maybe that’s just the whole thing–personal style is influenced by other people seeing it. But is it really contingent on that?
Harling: I admire you for continuing to put on outfits during quarantine. I wish I was the kind of person who felt the desire to do that. There’s something very pure, or iconic, about it, like making art for art’s sake. Whereas there’s something very commercial about the other side of the spectrum–the need for approval or appreciation in order to justify the “art.” I feel a little guilty falling so squarely on that side of things. I wonder what it says about my relationship with style, that I’m willing to let it fade from my life so easily. But to your point, maybe contingent isn’t quite the right word, because even though I’m not putting tons of thought into my outfits right now, I’m still thinking about outfits quite a lot. I’m still paying attention. I’m still being influenced and inspired. I love seeing the stay-home looks people like Tahirah Hairston, Mecca James-Williams, Michelle Li, Jenny Walton, Laura Kim, and Reese Blutstein have been putting together.
Leandra: For what it’s worth, I’ve never really thought of myself as someone who does art for its sake, who makes just to make. I’m very outcome-oriented! So I wonder if perhaps I’ve just replaced the outcome I used to know with the one I have now–which is the even more pervasive, global gaze of social media DUN DUN DUN. That changes the conversation entirely, although I should mention that what I wear while at home is different from what I wear to Instagram (a destination these days, IMO). Your point about thinking about outfits is interesting though–what are you thinking?
Harling: I remember a conversation we had right when you got back from maternity leave, about how posting a photo of your outfit to social media can definitely scratch the same itch as parading it around outside and/or in front of actual human eyes–maybe even more so, since it amplifies the number of people who see it. I do get satisfaction out of doing that, but at the same time it feels more like dress-up than getting dressed. Not a bad thing, just different.
Leandra: Yes that’s a good distinction — it’s definitely dress-up.
Harling: I’m thinking about what I want to wear when we’re allowed to move about in the world normally again, though it’s very unclear when that will be. I bought one of these French Madagascan market dresses, which I am very enthusiastically looking forward to wearing in the future (and maybe even in the meantime, curled up next to a sunny window with a book). My “favorites” section on The RealReal is also particularly robust at the moment. I’m hoping this blouse goes significantly further on sale, and I’m very tempted to buy this nightgown and exclusively wear it as a day dress. Have been stalking Lacoste, too, because it’s really good right now. Can’t you picture me in these terry shorts and this oversized sweatshirt??
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I’ve seen jokes on Twitter about how we shouldn’t count this year toward our respective ages, and I almost feel like the same joke applies to outfits–like their potential should be frozen in time, and carried over into next year, or whenever they’re applicable again. In terms of social media though, here’s a question: When you’re excited about what you’re wearing but no one else sees it for the entire day you’re wearing it, do you feel a sense of urgency about posting some kind of evidence of it on Instagram? It’s like that saying… if a tree falls in the forest, etc. If an outfit is worn and there’s no one to see it, did it even really exist?
Leandra: I do want to say something about your first comment, though! Because I think that is what will happen–very little fashion is being made right now, so it’s tough to think that new trends and styles of dress will come online. We’re in backwash mode–I’ve been packing up my apartment (we have finally been given the OK to move) and thumbing through hangers, deciding what to keep and what to donate and the same sensation you describe keeps coming up. As far as the outfits, I don’t post everything that I wear generally, and actually, this might sound crazy, but tend not to post what I wear and love the most because they kind of become parodies of themselves when they’re immortalized. There’s something kind of freeing about no one ever seeing them, but that freedom, I think, is wrapped up in outward perception because for as long as they’re private, like you said, they kind of never happened. Whether by the gaze of another, or click of a camera, they never get “posted.” I love that part in the cycle of an outfit’s life.
Harling: Yeah, I’ve been considering how the lack of fashion trends is making space for trends of other types (see: personality vases, a hallmark of quarantine Instagram, still lives–still want to go halfsies on one of these with me?). Do you think this era we are currently living in has broadened your conception of style to include more than just clothes in a tangible sense? In other words, because clothes matter less–even if you still maintain an interest in them–what have the parameters of your style grown to encompass?
Last week you asked me what has been occupying my time now that I’m not thinking about getting dressed, and I told you food/cooking, but I’ve also been devoting a lot more thought to home decor, and what my “taste” is in general. And while I do believe that style is predicated on other people observing it, I think of taste a little differently, more so in the vein of how you described not wanting to post the things you love and wear the most, because it becomes a parody. Taste feels like that to me–a little more precious, and also more resilient to the effects of quarantine, because it manifests in other ways.
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Leandra: I’ve been thinking a lot about where my taste appears elsewhere, too, i.e. the things that compel me to want to take a photo (it’s also like my eyes become the camera lens for a second), and I think it comes down to what we respectively perceive as beautiful, right? Like that is the boiled-down definition of taste? And when you think about beauty and its purpose/function, it is pretty unilateral, right? Example: We buy flowers to decorate our homes not for other people, but to appease ourselves. I think if we’re revisiting the question that started this conversation, personal style is an expression of taste. And while you’re finding this taste in other areas of your life that are logically more applicable to the state of now, I’m still holding on to my taste as it relates to how I dress, even though its less relevant. But that’s not where the loop closes. It might actually be where it opens because taste is an expression of beauty, and beauty is much more intimate. But this is too philosophical, I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Do you?
Harling: Us at the beginning of this conversation: Let’s have a rly tactical debate where we try to convince each other of our respective stances! Us at the end of this conversation: What is the meaning of life?
We’ve definitely led ourselves down a tangent, but I enjoyed it, especially because it reminded me of this quote from Dayna Tortorici’s delightful n+1 essay about Instagram: “Elaine Scarry writes in On Beauty and Being Just that it’s characteristic of beauty to compel us to reproduce what we see.” I agree that what we’re circling around definitely ties into our relationship with beauty, but to Scarry’s point, if we’re compelled to replicate what we see, then it makes sense that quarantine is affecting the nature of that replication. I’m quarantined at my mom’s with .0005% of my usual wardrobe, and the things I have here are mostly sweats and athletic clothes, so of course I’m not inspired to replicate beauty in the form of outfits. Maybe style isn’t contingent upon other people seeing it so much as it’s contingent upon what WE are seeing. It’s probably both.
Leandra: Opening this up to Disqus — what do you (yes, you!) think?
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Variety of wonderful White button-down Shirts given by Bangkok Tailor
It doesn’t get additional classic than a white button-down shirt. A perfect possibility for 100-degree Gregorian calendar month days, formal job interviews, “creative” job interviews, your ten-day vacation to Kriti, your 3 a.m. visit to the shop — it’s truly more durable to think about an area wherever  wear a white button-down shirt than to call all of the places you can. Additionally, Bangkok Tailor makes all type of white button-down shirt that are to be completely fitting, cutting and measuring. Tailor in Bangkok gives best advises and ideas for making any clothes. Bangkok Tailors can take best judgment so that they can easily understand customer preference.
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However like different misleadingly straightforward classics — like white T-shirts, black T-shirts, and jeans — there square measure a bunch of choices out there. we have a tendency to asked fourteen fashionable ladies concerning their favorites, and that they advocate a spread, together with short-sleeve linen, outsized Oxford, moisture-wicking, and additional designs — a smattering of that come back from the men’s (or boys’) section, therefore we advocate consulting those brands’ size charts to assist you discover the proper match. Below, the fourteen best white button-down shirts for girls, consistent with our fashionable panel.
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“As a star stylist, I’ve worn each in. of the web, shops, and boutiques searching for the proper white button-down to finish my clients’ wardrobes,” says shrub Caccamo. All of that diligent analysis junction rectifier her to 1 shirt: the Signature Silk Shirt by instrumentality. “Not solely is that this essential, however once you’ve worn yours around city too persistently, you’ll forever notice it available,” she says. The shirt includes a slim cut — that Caccamo thinks “perfectly flatters the bodice” — appearance skilled, and has “a bit of chic-ness,” due to its silken material. We’re additionally massive fans of this shirt, that one deviser author owns in four colours.
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It runs a touch longer, she says, and “looks superb with dishevelled jeans or tailored trousers — it causes you to look ‘put-together,’ even once you were virtually simply elbows deep in an exceedingly game of Paw Patrol.” Kennedy’s favorite vogue, however, is presently out of stock on-line — however Theory’s taenia shirt, that is created of constant mix of cotton, nylon, and textile because the Macina luxury, may be a shut approximation. The stretch within the shirt makes it slightly additional fitted, that helps thereupon whole ‘put-together’ look, and is right if you’re layering it underneath a sport coat or tucking it into pants and skirts. Additionally, Tailor in Bangkok offer all very affordable prices.
If you want a shirt to go from bed to brunch in hotter weather
you would possibly need to throw on a linen white button-down rather than one cut during a heavier cloth. Tahirah Hairston, adolescent Vogue’s fashion and sweetness options director, says that Lunya’s linen silk resort shirt is her “rescue” for once temperatures rise to “88 degrees however ‘feel like ninety seven degrees.’ I’ve been sporting the set (which comes with cute very little linen shorts) to bed, and so awakening, rolling out of bed, and sporting the shirt for running errands or perhaps to brunch with my mother,” she says. “It’s outsized, with huge cuff sleeves, tiny stripes, and a remarkable collar. most significantly, it's nice wrinkled, you'll wash it reception, and, since it’s primarily a pajama high, it’s extraordinarily comfortable. A win all around.”
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If a lighter cloth isn’t cooling enough, you may need to contemplate a short-sleeved button-down. Sara Jane Emmons, associate manager of brand name development at body-hair-care line Fur, recommends this short-sleeve linen variety from Everlane that options a pajama-inspired collar. She owns it in blue-and-white stripes and says she desires to feature an all-white version to her closet too. “I like that it naturally encompasses a low neck, and clearly most are stanning linen hard-core this summer,” Emmons says. “Everlane will be a touch too ‘I’m frightened of creating fashion choices’ on behalf of me, thus I’d wear this with superior shells and a few linen pants (I like these ones from Ilana Kohn), and perhaps some Birkenstocks with tie-dye socks for the complete ‘cool camp counselor/chill cult leader’ ambiance.”
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 Lastly, Bangkok Tailor has so many advanced technologies machines that work very speedy so that prepare clothes also very fast. Bangkok Tailor has so many experience.
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Poets throughout time have included visual art and music and just the stuff of their world — but that stuff was like, the room at the Met that I skipped. We think of that as high art. It’s really just white art. That’s not art that I’m looking at; that’s not art that my friends are making. If I’m going to write poetry, it has to reflect who I am and the things that are making up my world and the things that I’m consumed by.
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The Cannes Red Carpet Was Extremely Fun This Year
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The Cannes Red Carpet Was Extremely Fun This Year
While perhaps the most exciting fashion-related headlines to come out of the 2018 Cannes Film Festival were those regarding Kristen Stewart’s decision to walk barefoot up the red carpet stairs, the overall outfit lineup was also worth dissecting. Cannes definitely has one of the more exciting red carpets in the grand scheme of red carpets, likely a result of the legacy left behind by Cannes regulars (and noted fashion risk-takers) of yore like Diana Ross and Sharon Stone. This year’s offering was no exception. Eager to hear which style statements in particular caught other peoples’ eyes, I asked nine other Man Repeller editors and contributors to share their favorite looks. The below list is but a small sampling of the sartorial delights that ensued, though, so be sure to click through the whole slideshow and comment your personal faves as well.
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1. Marion Cotillard in Adam Selman
Who picked this look? Harling Ross (me!), Fashion Editor
Why was it your favorite? Marion Cotillard has been crushing this year’s Cannes red carpet like a can of Sprite. While I originally fell in lust with her convention-flouting look featuring flat (!) lace-up Nicholas Kirkwood boots (remember when the film festival made headlines two years ago for turning away women who tried to wear flats on the red carpet?), this spectacular gingham number designed by Adam Selman was ultimately my favorite look. Not only am I extremely enamored with the concept of wearing bloomer-like shorts in a black-tie setting, but I’m also obsessed with lime green right now, so the accents on her outfit really hooked me. Separately, I am now officially in the market for a pair of red strappy high-heel sandals.
2. Ava DuVernay in Greta Constantine
Who picked this look? Nora Taylor, Managing Editor
Why was it your favorite? While far from the most dramatic look at the festival (she was supporting Spike Lee’s new movie) she just looks so dang good. The fit is perfect, the colors are amazing and really work for her and the lipstick tops it all off. It just seems like the perfect look for when you don’t want to be the center of attention but you want to casually remind everyone that you’re stunning.
  3. Lupita Nyong’o in Christian Dior
Who picked this look? Tahirah Hairston, Contributing Writer
Why was it your favorite? Is it safe to say that Lupita is the Queen of Cannes? I mean not trying to exaggerate, but who will ever forget that green Gucci dress that she twirled around in, effectively breaking the internet in 2015? No one. This year her outfits have been a little more subtle, but definitely still show-stopping. I’m always wary of dresses that have too much going on because I find they both look uncomfortable and try-hard, but in this Dior Couture dress with a cage-y sheer turtleneck top half and a ruffle bottom, Lupita looks effortless. Everything she’s wearing looks works together like a symphony, from the teardrop earrings to the hint of brick-red eyeshadow to the off-centered mohawk afro that adds just the right amount of edge to her very feminine look. Lupita truly understands the importance of doing the most, but also knows when she’s done just enough.
4. Laura Harrier in Louis Vuitton and Damaris Lewis in Off-White
Who picked this look? Amelia Diamond, Head of Creative
Why was it your favorite? Full disclosure: I don’t think this Louis Vuitton dress would have been my first choice had it been worn by someone else, but Laura Harrier can do no wrong in my book when it comes to style. Where the dress itself is concerned, there was something about the overall simplicity, the kilt-like wrap over the pleats, and the black ribbon in contrast against the peachy colored fabric that really called to me. It was pretty. It didn’t make a statement, but it’s a case of the wearer wearing the dress rather than the other way around — and because of that, the choice looks deliberate. She looks comfortable in it! Maybe I like this dress because it feels like something I would want to wear.
The real winner here, however, is Damaris Lewis, in a full Off-White runway look: the blazer, the biker shorts, the Off-White x Jimmy Choo shoes. She looks incredible, and I really have a lot of respect for anyone who can make the case for biker shorts in a black-tie setting.
5. Chloë Sevigny in Chanel
Who picked this look? Elizabeth Tamkin, Market Assistant
Why was it your favorite? First of all, she’s wearing Chanel, so it’s very hard not to have your jaw hit the floor. Regardless, though, Chloë is an icon and is one of those people who can transform any look into something special. The dress alone is beautiful, but on her, it has attitude. I also love how the fluted hem hits her lower leg at the exact right spot to showcase her pumps. 
6. Thandie Newton in Vivienne Westwood and Donald Glover in Gucci
Who picked this look? Edith Young, Photographer
Why was it your favorite? I love anything that reinterprets classic textiles with contemporary imagery and this dress that Newton made in collaboration with Vivienne Westwood does just that: The elegant draping doesn’t reveal it immediately, but the print on Newton’s gown features Star Wars figurines from her personal collection — all the black characters to ever appear before her in the Star Wars franchise. Westwood made the gown sustainably, and if you need me I’ll be melting at the sight of Newton standing with Donald Glover, who is truly the definition of dapper in his powder blue suit and white Gucci loafers.
7. Kendall Jenner in Schiaparelli
Who picked this look? Juliana Salazar, Contributing Writer
Why was it your favorite? For someone wearing a completely sheer dress, I think Kendall looked really elegant. The over-the-top shoulders and tiered tulle ruffles convey an old-school, non-cheesy Hollywood glamour that you don’t really see anymore (or at least not often). Cannes Film Festival is probably the only place a look like this doesn’t seem too extreme, so I’m glad she went all-out. Also, please note the embellished seahorse on her dress and belt buckle. I do wish she was wearing different earrings here and black wayfarers but maybe that’s just me.
8. Jane Fonda in Valentino
Who picked this look? Claire Beermann, Contributing Writer
Why was it your favorite? Jane Fonda looks like she just stepped out of a 1920’s dinner party at her midcentury Palm Springs house, an atmosphere I find highly desirable. The coat resembles a robe, the dress reminds me of a (very fancy) nightgown. There’s something very sophisticated, glam and equally casual about it. She looks like this is her carpet while the others are merely her guests – and she exudes the wisdom and coolness of someone who’s never lost her groove. Basically everything I want to be when I grow up.
9. Stacy Martin in Chanel
Who picked this look? Claire again (she couldn’t decide!)
Why was it your favorite? This is a good example of how a relatively simple outfit can be transformed by thoughtful styling. I love all the tiny details: strappy sandals, red nail polish, flashy crystal earrings and cat-eye make-up and hair reminiscent of Megan Draper on Mad Men. More importantly, though, Stacy Martin looks like she got ready in five minutes — which I think is the best thing one can achieve on a red carpet.  
  10. Phoebe Waller-Bridge in Mother of Pearl
Who picked this look? Haley Nahman, Deputy Editor
Why was it your favorite? I know I always pick the awkward tea-length dresses but I never get sick of how unusual they look next to everyone else’s floor-length gowns. I’m also having a moment with green (NOT lime green, which, sorry Haring, is the worst of the greens), so Phoebe’s dress stuck out to me for multiple reasons. I love how casual it feels with the low sandals, too, like she could pop over to a pool after and not look too out of place. It’s possible I’m just narcissistic because I would totally wear this, down to the complete lack of jewelry. I feel seen!!! You look great Phoebe!!!
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The Promise of Pyer Moss Kerby Jean-Raymond was one of fashion’s most celebrated young designers. Then what happened? https://www.thecut.com/article/pyer-moss-kerby-jean-raymond-designer.html
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Speaking of Kim Kardashian, what’s your stance on white women wearing braids? I understand that they are attractive because they are beautiful and different. They come from a culture that’s not their own. It’s new to them, it’s exciting, and everyone wants to be cutting edge and different. I understand the appeal to them in that way. But my gripe with cultural appropriation is when you do what white people have done for centuries: You come into a place that’s not yours and you take what’s theirs and you don’t honor the people, where it came from. It’s very empty, it’s totally vacuous when you take out the soul. That’s why trends are so fleeting, because they take an idea and use it until it’s used up and you’re tired of seeing it. I don’t like when people take anything that’s not really theirs without permission or blessings of where it comes from. Everything is not yours to take. There’s an artist, I forgot her name, she’s an Asian girl, she goes and immerses herself in different cultures and becomes a part of the culture and then she photographs parts of the transition. Cultural appropriation basically is her practice, but the way that she does it is respectful. She’s with the people, she lives with them for around a month or a couple of months, she gets to know everybody, she pays dues and becomes a member of the family, and then she’s able to share their culture. I honestly don’t think it will ever be done the right way [on a large scale] because fashion and beauty are billion-dollar industries and they are ever-evolving, so they are always going to be looking for something that’s new and cool, and new and cool is now going deeper and deeper into niche culture.
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Leandra & Harling Debate: Is Getting Dressed Only Satisfying If Other People See It?
Have you signed up for MR Thoughtline yet? It’s Man Repeller’s new text-based service that lights up phone screens with good bits from around the internet, opportunities to chat with cool people, and digital recesses to help your mind take a break from the news in favor of a recipe, physical activity or, trust us, very useful WFH outfit ideas. Subscribe here.
This unusual time we’re living in puts our relationships with our own style under a new microscope, urging us to ask ourselves: Is the satisfaction of getting dressed in the act itself, or in the experience of the outfit being witnessed? Leandra and I have formed considerably different stances on this conundrum, so we convened for a healthy debate. —Harling
Leandra: I have been thinking about Edith’s question in last week’s editorial meeting, about whether the expectation of being seen by other people is the ultimate incentive to get dressed. Do you think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it?
Harling: I sure do.
Leandra: And I sure don’t. Let’s debate if you’re up for it. You try to convince me “yes” and I’ll try to convince you “no.”
Harling: Definitely up for it. Shall we begin?
Leandra: Yes.
Harling: Style is contingent upon other people seeing it because “style” as a concept implies that there’s a transaction taking place. Style is perception-based, right? So it only exists when it is perceived. Without visual dialogue, an outfit is just… clothes. I think you could say the same about writing an essay–it only becomes a story when someone else reads it. That’s why I haven’t felt motivated to put thought into what I’m wearing while in quarantine. Doing so would feel like asking a question even though no one is around to answer it–a waste of time! I definitely miss the effort of turning clothes into an outfit–which is to say, I miss the pursuit of style–but not to the extent that I’m interested in a watered-down version of it. It just wouldn’t feel the same. What about you?
Leandra: I think the answer depends on whether you consider my own perception as a part of the transaction you’re describing. Meaning: Does my perception of the outfit I’m wearing count? Because I don’t actually think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it. I get dressed in quarantine because I feel like shit when I don’t–it adds shape to my day in a way that is similar to meal planning, preparing, and consuming.
I don’t dress the same way I would if I were going out (though honestly, I feel so good when I put on jeans), but I’ve definitely applied the tenets of my personal style to the way I dress to: be home, go to the grocery store, take a walk, etc. I don’t think I get dressed for other people to see what I’m wearing–my mom used to basically chastise me for putting on “outfits” to stay home–but it doesn’t sound completely correct to say I’m not influenced by another person seeing what I’m wearing, so I’m trying to untangle that. Or maybe that’s just the whole thing–personal style is influenced by other people seeing it. But is it really contingent on that?
Harling: I admire you for continuing to put on outfits during quarantine. I wish I was the kind of person who felt the desire to do that. There’s something very pure, or iconic, about it, like making art for art’s sake. Whereas there’s something very commercial about the other side of the spectrum–the need for approval or appreciation in order to justify the “art.” I feel a little guilty falling so squarely on that side of things. I wonder what it says about my relationship with style, that I’m willing to let it fade from my life so easily. But to your point, maybe contingent isn’t quite the right word, because even though I’m not putting tons of thought into my outfits right now, I’m still thinking about outfits quite a lot. I’m still paying attention. I’m still being influenced and inspired. I love seeing the stay-home looks people like Tahirah Hairston, Mecca James-Williams, Michelle Li, Jenny Walton, Laura Kim, and Reese Blutstein have been putting together.
Leandra: For what it’s worth, I’ve never really thought of myself as someone who does art for its sake, who makes just to make. I’m very outcome-oriented! So I wonder if perhaps I’ve just replaced the outcome I used to know with the one I have now–which is the even more pervasive, global gaze of social media DUN DUN DUN. That changes the conversation entirely, although I should mention that what I wear while at home is different from what I wear to Instagram (a destination these days, IMO). Your point about thinking about outfits is interesting though–what are you thinking?
Harling: I remember a conversation we had right when you got back from maternity leave, about how posting a photo of your outfit to social media can definitely scratch the same itch as parading it around outside and/or in front of actual human eyes–maybe even more so, since it amplifies the number of people who see it. I do get satisfaction out of doing that, but at the same time it feels more like dress-up than getting dressed. Not a bad thing, just different.
Leandra: Yes that’s a good distinction — it’s definitely dress-up.
Harling: I’m thinking about what I want to wear when we’re allowed to move about in the world normally again, though it’s very unclear when that will be. I bought one of these French Madagascan market dresses, which I am very enthusiastically looking forward to wearing in the future (and maybe even in the meantime, curled up next to a sunny window with a book). My “favorites” section on The RealReal is also particularly robust at the moment. I’m hoping this blouse goes significantly further on sale, and I’m very tempted to buy this nightgown and exclusively wear it as a day dress. Have been stalking Lacoste, too, because it’s really good right now. Can’t you picture me in these terry shorts and this oversized sweatshirt??
See All 4
I’ve seen jokes on Twitter about how we shouldn’t count this year toward our respective ages, and I almost feel like the same joke applies to outfits–like their potential should be frozen in time, and carried over into next year, or whenever they’re applicable again. In terms of social media though, here’s a question: When you’re excited about what you’re wearing but no one else sees it for the entire day you’re wearing it, do you feel a sense of urgency about posting some kind of evidence of it on Instagram? It’s like that saying… if a tree falls in the forest, etc. If an outfit is worn and there’s no one to see it, did it even really exist?
Leandra: I do want to say something about your first comment, though! Because I think that is what will happen–very little fashion is being made right now, so it’s tough to think that new trends and styles of dress will come online. We’re in backwash mode–I’ve been packing up my apartment (we have finally been given the OK to move) and thumbing through hangers, deciding what to keep and what to donate and the same sensation you describe keeps coming up. As far as the outfits, I don’t post everything that I wear generally, and actually, this might sound crazy, but tend not to post what I wear and love the most because they kind of become parodies of themselves when they’re immortalized. There’s something kind of freeing about no one ever seeing them, but that freedom, I think, is wrapped up in outward perception because for as long as they’re private, like you said, they kind of never happened. Whether by the gaze of another, or click of a camera, they never get “posted.” I love that part in the cycle of an outfit’s life.
Harling: Yeah, I’ve been considering how the lack of fashion trends is making space for trends of other types (see: personality vases, a hallmark of quarantine Instagram, still lives–still want to go halfsies on one of these with me?). Do you think this era we are currently living in has broadened your conception of style to include more than just clothes in a tangible sense? In other words, because clothes matter less–even if you still maintain an interest in them–what have the parameters of your style grown to encompass?
Last week you asked me what has been occupying my time now that I’m not thinking about getting dressed, and I told you food/cooking, but I’ve also been devoting a lot more thought to home decor, and what my “taste” is in general. And while I do believe that style is predicated on other people observing it, I think of taste a little differently, more so in the vein of how you described not wanting to post the things you love and wear the most, because it becomes a parody. Taste feels like that to me–a little more precious, and also more resilient to the effects of quarantine, because it manifests in other ways.
See All 1
Leandra: I’ve been thinking a lot about where my taste appears elsewhere, too, i.e. the things that compel me to want to take a photo (it’s also like my eyes become the camera lens for a second), and I think it comes down to what we respectively perceive as beautiful, right? Like that is the boiled-down definition of taste? And when you think about beauty and its purpose/function, it is pretty unilateral, right? Example: We buy flowers to decorate our homes not for other people, but to appease ourselves. I think if we’re revisiting the question that started this conversation, personal style is an expression of taste. And while you’re finding this taste in other areas of your life that are logically more applicable to the state of now, I’m still holding on to my taste as it relates to how I dress, even though its less relevant. But that’s not where the loop closes. It might actually be where it opens because taste is an expression of beauty, and beauty is much more intimate. But this is too philosophical, I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Do you?
Harling: Us at the beginning of this conversation: Let’s have a rly tactical debate where we try to convince each other of our respective stances! Us at the end of this conversation: What is the meaning of life?
We’ve definitely led ourselves down a tangent, but I enjoyed it, especially because it reminded me of this quote from Dayna Tortorici’s delightful n+1 essay about Instagram: “Elaine Scarry writes in On Beauty and Being Just that it’s characteristic of beauty to compel us to reproduce what we see.” I agree that what we’re circling around definitely ties into our relationship with beauty, but to Scarry’s point, if we’re compelled to replicate what we see, then it makes sense that quarantine is affecting the nature of that replication. I’m quarantined at my mom’s with .0005% of my usual wardrobe, and the things I have here are mostly sweats and athletic clothes, so of course I’m not inspired to replicate beauty in the form of outfits. Maybe style isn’t contingent upon other people seeing it so much as it’s contingent upon what WE are seeing. It’s probably both.
Leandra: Opening this up to Disqus — what do you (yes, you!) think?
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Leandra & Harling Debate: Is Getting Dressed Only Satisfying If Other People See It?
Have you signed up for MR Thoughtline yet? It’s Man Repeller’s new text-based service that lights up phone screens with good bits from around the internet, opportunities to chat with cool people, and digital recesses to help your mind take a break from the news in favor of a recipe, physical activity or, trust us, very useful WFH outfit ideas. Subscribe here.
This unusual time we’re living in puts our relationships with our own style under a new microscope, urging us to ask ourselves: Is the satisfaction of getting dressed in the act itself, or in the experience of the outfit being witnessed? Leandra and I have formed considerably different stances on this conundrum, so we convened for a healthy debate. —Harling
Leandra: I have been thinking about Edith’s question in last week’s editorial meeting, about whether the expectation of being seen by other people is the ultimate incentive to get dressed. Do you think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it?
Harling: I sure do.
Leandra: And I sure don’t. Let’s debate if you’re up for it. You try to convince me “yes” and I’ll try to convince you “no.”
Harling: Definitely up for it. Shall we begin?
Leandra: Yes.
Harling: Style is contingent upon other people seeing it because “style” as a concept implies that there’s a transaction taking place. Style is perception-based, right? So it only exists when it is perceived. Without visual dialogue, an outfit is just… clothes. I think you could say the same about writing an essay–it only becomes a story when someone else reads it. That’s why I haven’t felt motivated to put thought into what I’m wearing while in quarantine. Doing so would feel like asking a question even though no one is around to answer it–a waste of time! I definitely miss the effort of turning clothes into an outfit–which is to say, I miss the pursuit of style–but not to the extent that I’m interested in a watered-down version of it. It just wouldn’t feel the same. What about you?
Leandra: I think the answer depends on whether you consider my own perception as a part of the transaction you’re describing. Meaning: Does my perception of the outfit I’m wearing count? Because I don’t actually think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it. I get dressed in quarantine because I feel like shit when I don’t–it adds shape to my day in a way that is similar to meal planning, preparing, and consuming.
I don’t dress the same way I would if I were going out (though honestly, I feel so good when I put on jeans), but I’ve definitely applied the tenets of my personal style to the way I dress to: be home, go to the grocery store, take a walk, etc. I don’t think I get dressed for other people to see what I’m wearing–my mom used to basically chastise me for putting on “outfits” to stay home–but it doesn’t sound completely correct to say I’m not influenced by another person seeing what I’m wearing, so I’m trying to untangle that. Or maybe that’s just the whole thing–personal style is influenced by other people seeing it. But is it really contingent on that?
Harling: I admire you for continuing to put on outfits during quarantine. I wish I was the kind of person who felt the desire to do that. There’s something very pure, or iconic, about it, like making art for art’s sake. Whereas there’s something very commercial about the other side of the spectrum–the need for approval or appreciation in order to justify the “art.” I feel a little guilty falling so squarely on that side of things. I wonder what it says about my relationship with style, that I’m willing to let it fade from my life so easily. But to your point, maybe contingent isn’t quite the right word, because even though I’m not putting tons of thought into my outfits right now, I’m still thinking about outfits quite a lot. I’m still paying attention. I’m still being influenced and inspired. I love seeing the stay-home looks people like Tahirah Hairston, Mecca James-Williams, Michelle Li, Jenny Walton, Laura Kim, and Reese Blutstein have been putting together.
Leandra: For what it’s worth, I’ve never really thought of myself as someone who does art for its sake, who makes just to make. I’m very outcome-oriented! So I wonder if perhaps I’ve just replaced the outcome I used to know with the one I have now–which is the even more pervasive, global gaze of social media DUN DUN DUN. That changes the conversation entirely, although I should mention that what I wear while at home is different from what I wear to Instagram (a destination these days, IMO). Your point about thinking about outfits is interesting though–what are you thinking?
Harling: I remember a conversation we had right when you got back from maternity leave, about how posting a photo of your outfit to social media can definitely scratch the same itch as parading it around outside and/or in front of actual human eyes–maybe even more so, since it amplifies the number of people who see it. I do get satisfaction out of doing that, but at the same time it feels more like dress-up than getting dressed. Not a bad thing, just different.
Leandra: Yes that’s a good distinction — it’s definitely dress-up.
Harling: I’m thinking about what I want to wear when we’re allowed to move about in the world normally again, though it’s very unclear when that will be. I bought one of these French Madagascan market dresses, which I am very enthusiastically looking forward to wearing in the future (and maybe even in the meantime, curled up next to a sunny window with a book). My “favorites” section on The RealReal is also particularly robust at the moment. I’m hoping this blouse goes significantly further on sale, and I’m very tempted to buy this nightgown and exclusively wear it as a day dress. Have been stalking Lacoste, too, because it’s really good right now. Can’t you picture me in these terry shorts and this oversized sweatshirt??
See All 4
I’ve seen jokes on Twitter about how we shouldn’t count this year toward our respective ages, and I almost feel like the same joke applies to outfits–like their potential should be frozen in time, and carried over into next year, or whenever they’re applicable again. In terms of social media though, here’s a question: When you’re excited about what you’re wearing but no one else sees it for the entire day you’re wearing it, do you feel a sense of urgency about posting some kind of evidence of it on Instagram? It’s like that saying… if a tree falls in the forest, etc. If an outfit is worn and there’s no one to see it, did it even really exist?
Leandra: I do want to say something about your first comment, though! Because I think that is what will happen–very little fashion is being made right now, so it’s tough to think that new trends and styles of dress will come online. We’re in backwash mode–I’ve been packing up my apartment (we have finally been given the OK to move) and thumbing through hangers, deciding what to keep and what to donate and the same sensation you describe keeps coming up. As far as the outfits, I don’t post everything that I wear generally, and actually, this might sound crazy, but tend not to post what I wear and love the most because they kind of become parodies of themselves when they’re immortalized. There’s something kind of freeing about no one ever seeing them, but that freedom, I think, is wrapped up in outward perception because for as long as they’re private, like you said, they kind of never happened. Whether by the gaze of another, or click of a camera, they never get “posted.” I love that part in the cycle of an outfit’s life.
Harling: Yeah, I’ve been considering how the lack of fashion trends is making space for trends of other types (see: personality vases, a hallmark of quarantine Instagram, still lives–still want to go halfsies on one of these with me?). Do you think this era we are currently living in has broadened your conception of style to include more than just clothes in a tangible sense? In other words, because clothes matter less–even if you still maintain an interest in them–what have the parameters of your style grown to encompass?
Last week you asked me what has been occupying my time now that I’m not thinking about getting dressed, and I told you food/cooking, but I’ve also been devoting a lot more thought to home decor, and what my “taste” is in general. And while I do believe that style is predicated on other people observing it, I think of taste a little differently, more so in the vein of how you described not wanting to post the things you love and wear the most, because it becomes a parody. Taste feels like that to me–a little more precious, and also more resilient to the effects of quarantine, because it manifests in other ways.
See All 1
Leandra: I’ve been thinking a lot about where my taste appears elsewhere, too, i.e. the things that compel me to want to take a photo (it’s also like my eyes become the camera lens for a second), and I think it comes down to what we respectively perceive as beautiful, right? Like that is the boiled-down definition of taste? And when you think about beauty and its purpose/function, it is pretty unilateral, right? Example: We buy flowers to decorate our homes not for other people, but to appease ourselves. I think if we’re revisiting the question that started this conversation, personal style is an expression of taste. And while you’re finding this taste in other areas of your life that are logically more applicable to the state of now, I’m still holding on to my taste as it relates to how I dress, even though its less relevant. But that’s not where the loop closes. It might actually be where it opens because taste is an expression of beauty, and beauty is much more intimate. But this is too philosophical, I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Do you?
Harling: Us at the beginning of this conversation: Let’s have a rly tactical debate where we try to convince each other of our respective stances! Us at the end of this conversation: What is the meaning of life?
We’ve definitely led ourselves down a tangent, but I enjoyed it, especially because it reminded me of this quote from Dayna Tortorici’s delightful n+1 essay about Instagram: “Elaine Scarry writes in On Beauty and Being Just that it’s characteristic of beauty to compel us to reproduce what we see.” I agree that what we’re circling around definitely ties into our relationship with beauty, but to Scarry’s point, if we’re compelled to replicate what we see, then it makes sense that quarantine is affecting the nature of that replication. I’m quarantined at my mom’s with .0005% of my usual wardrobe, and the things I have here are mostly sweats and athletic clothes, so of course I’m not inspired to replicate beauty in the form of outfits. Maybe style isn’t contingent upon other people seeing it so much as it’s contingent upon what WE are seeing. It’s probably both.
Leandra: Opening this up to Disqus — what do you (yes, you!) think?
Graphic by Lorenza Centi.
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Leandra & Harling Debate: Is Getting Dressed Only Satisfying If Other People See It?
Have you signed up for MR Thoughtline yet? It’s Man Repeller’s new text-based service that lights up phone screens with good bits from around the internet, opportunities to chat with cool people, and digital recesses to help your mind take a break from the news in favor of a recipe, physical activity or, trust us, very useful WFH outfit ideas. Subscribe here.
This unusual time we’re living in puts our relationships with our own style under a new microscope, urging us to ask ourselves: Is the satisfaction of getting dressed in the act itself, or in the experience of the outfit being witnessed? Leandra and I have formed considerably different stances on this conundrum, so we convened for a healthy debate. —Harling
Leandra: I have been thinking about Edith’s question in last week’s editorial meeting, about whether the expectation of being seen by other people is the ultimate incentive to get dressed. Do you think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it?
Harling: I sure do.
Leandra: And I sure don’t. Let’s debate if you’re up for it. You try to convince me “yes” and I’ll try to convince you “no.”
Harling: Definitely up for it. Shall we begin?
Leandra: Yes.
Harling: Style is contingent upon other people seeing it because “style” as a concept implies that there’s a transaction taking place. Style is perception-based, right? So it only exists when it is perceived. Without visual dialogue, an outfit is just… clothes. I think you could say the same about writing an essay–it only becomes a story when someone else reads it. That’s why I haven’t felt motivated to put thought into what I’m wearing while in quarantine. Doing so would feel like asking a question even though no one is around to answer it–a waste of time! I definitely miss the effort of turning clothes into an outfit–which is to say, I miss the pursuit of style–but not to the extent that I’m interested in a watered-down version of it. It just wouldn’t feel the same. What about you?
Leandra: I think the answer depends on whether you consider my own perception as a part of the transaction you’re describing. Meaning: Does my perception of the outfit I’m wearing count? Because I don’t actually think personal style is contingent on other people seeing it. I get dressed in quarantine because I feel like shit when I don’t–it adds shape to my day in a way that is similar to meal planning, preparing, and consuming.
I don’t dress the same way I would if I were going out (though honestly, I feel so good when I put on jeans), but I’ve definitely applied the tenets of my personal style to the way I dress to: be home, go to the grocery store, take a walk, etc. I don’t think I get dressed for other people to see what I’m wearing–my mom used to basically chastise me for putting on “outfits” to stay home–but it doesn’t sound completely correct to say I’m not influenced by another person seeing what I’m wearing, so I’m trying to untangle that. Or maybe that’s just the whole thing–personal style is influenced by other people seeing it. But is it really contingent on that?
Harling: I admire you for continuing to put on outfits during quarantine. I wish I was the kind of person who felt the desire to do that. There’s something very pure, or iconic, about it, like making art for art’s sake. Whereas there’s something very commercial about the other side of the spectrum–the need for approval or appreciation in order to justify the “art.” I feel a little guilty falling so squarely on that side of things. I wonder what it says about my relationship with style, that I’m willing to let it fade from my life so easily. But to your point, maybe contingent isn’t quite the right word, because even though I’m not putting tons of thought into my outfits right now, I’m still thinking about outfits quite a lot. I’m still paying attention. I’m still being influenced and inspired. I love seeing the stay-home looks people like Tahirah Hairston, Mecca James-Williams, Michelle Li, Jenny Walton, Laura Kim, and Reese Blutstein have been putting together.
Leandra: For what it’s worth, I’ve never really thought of myself as someone who does art for its sake, who makes just to make. I’m very outcome-oriented! So I wonder if perhaps I’ve just replaced the outcome I used to know with the one I have now–which is the even more pervasive, global gaze of social media DUN DUN DUN. That changes the conversation entirely, although I should mention that what I wear while at home is different from what I wear to Instagram (a destination these days, IMO). Your point about thinking about outfits is interesting though–what are you thinking?
Harling: I remember a conversation we had right when you got back from maternity leave, about how posting a photo of your outfit to social media can definitely scratch the same itch as parading it around outside and/or in front of actual human eyes–maybe even more so, since it amplifies the number of people who see it. I do get satisfaction out of doing that, but at the same time it feels more like dress-up than getting dressed. Not a bad thing, just different.
Leandra: Yes that’s a good distinction — it’s definitely dress-up.
Harling: I’m thinking about what I want to wear when we’re allowed to move about in the world normally again, though it’s very unclear when that will be. I bought one of these French Madagascan market dresses, which I am very enthusiastically looking forward to wearing in the future (and maybe even in the meantime, curled up next to a sunny window with a book). My “favorites” section on The RealReal is also particularly robust at the moment. I’m hoping this blouse goes significantly further on sale, and I’m very tempted to buy this nightgown and exclusively wear it as a day dress. Have been stalking Lacoste, too, because it’s really good right now. Can’t you picture me in these terry shorts and this oversized sweatshirt??
I’ve seen jokes on Twitter about how we shouldn’t count this year toward our respective ages, and I almost feel like the same joke applies to outfits–like their potential should be frozen in time, and carried over into next year, or whenever they’re applicable again. In terms of social media though, here’s a question: When you’re excited about what you’re wearing but no one else sees it for the entire day you’re wearing it, do you feel a sense of urgency about posting some kind of evidence of it on Instagram? It’s like that saying… if a tree falls in the forest, etc. If an outfit is worn and there’s no one to see it, did it even really exist?
See All 4
Leandra: I do want to say something about your first comment, though! Because I think that is what will happen–very little fashion is being made right now, so it’s tough to think that new trends and styles of dress will come online. We’re in backwash mode–I’ve been packing up my apartment (we have finally been given the OK to move) and thumbing through hangers, deciding what to keep and what to donate and the same sensation you describe keeps coming up. As far as the outfits, I don’t post everything that I wear generally, and actually, this might sound crazy, but tend not to post what I wear and love the most because they kind of become parodies of themselves when they’re immortalized. There’s something kind of freeing about no one ever seeing them, but that freedom, I think, is wrapped up in outward perception because for as long as they’re private, like you said, they kind of never happened. Whether by the gaze of another, or click of a camera, they never get “posted.” I love that part in the cycle of an outfit’s life.
Harling: Yeah, I’ve been considering how the lack of fashion trends is making space for trends of other types (see: personality vases, a hallmark of quarantine Instagram, still lives–still want to go halfsies on one of these with me?). Do you think this era we are currently living in has broadened your conception of style to include more than just clothes in a tangible sense? In other words, because clothes matter less–even if you still maintain an interest in them–what have the parameters of your style grown to encompass?
Last week you asked me what has been occupying my time now that I’m not thinking about getting dressed, and I told you food/cooking, but I’ve also been devoting a lot more thought to home decor, and what my “taste” is in general. And while I do believe that style is predicated on other people observing it, I think of taste a little differently, more so in the vein of how you described not wanting to post the things you love and wear the most, because it becomes a parody. Taste feels like that to me–a little more precious, and also more resilient to the effects of quarantine, because it manifests in other ways.
See All 1
Leandra: I’ve been thinking a lot about where my taste appears elsewhere, too, i.e. the things that compel me to want to take a photo (it’s also like my eyes become the camera lens for a second), and I think it comes down to what we respectively perceive as beautiful, right? Like that is the boiled-down definition of taste? And when you think about beauty and its purpose/function, it is pretty unilateral, right? Example: We buy flowers to decorate our homes not for other people, but to appease ourselves. I think if we’re revisiting the question that started this conversation, personal style is an expression of taste. And while you’re finding this taste in other areas of your life that are logically more applicable to the state of now, I’m still holding on to my taste as it relates to how I dress, even though its less relevant. But that’s not where the loop closes. It might actually be where it opens because taste is an expression of beauty, and beauty is much more intimate. But this is too philosophical, I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Do you?
Harling: Us at the beginning of this conversation: Let’s have a rly tactical debate where we try to convince each other of our respective stances! Us at the end of this conversation: What is the meaning of life?
We’ve definitely led ourselves down a tangent, but I enjoyed it, especially because it reminded me of this quote from Dayna Tortorici’s delightful n+1 essay about Instagram: “Elaine Scarry writes in On Beauty and Being Just that it’s characteristic of beauty to compel us to reproduce what we see.” I agree that what we’re circling around definitely ties into our relationship with beauty, but to Scarry’s point, if we’re compelled to replicate what we see, then it makes sense that quarantine is affecting the nature of that replication. I’m quarantined at my mom’s with .0005% of my usual wardrobe, and the things I have here are mostly sweats and athletic clothes, so of course I’m not inspired to replicate beauty in the form of outfits. Maybe style isn’t contingent upon other people seeing it so much as it’s contingent upon what WE are seeing. It’s probably both.
Leandra: Opening this up to Disqus — what do you (yes, you!) think?
Graphic by Lorenza Centi.
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