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bumblingbabooshka · 10 months
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Chakotay leaning on the fact that he was Maquis to play-flirt with Janeway as they work on reports after hours and Janeway laughs, waving him off with a smirk and at the moment she says something like “I haven’t been charmed by the bad boy routine since I was in 8th grade” she turns to see Tuvok (also with them, has been there the whole time) looking very much charmed by the bad boy routine. (Only she can tell this.)
#Tuvok: -looking at Chakotay with a neutral expression- / Janeway: -bisexual pride flag in the background- ~!?????#play-flirt means he means it but also he's joking#anyway...Chakotay & Neelix could have had Janeway & Tuvok if they respectively let their hair gray and played up their criminal past#Tuvok: I don't want to get involved with people#Hot morally dubious guy who struggles with himself: Hi can you- / Tuvok: Yes.#Teen Tuvok wrote sooo many self insert fanfics where a hot rebel came to take him away from the temple to kiss and say 'society sucks!!'#and after he left the temple and achieved inner peace he rewrote them so that he eventually got the hot rebel to see the light and renounce#his rebel ways bc Tuvok is sooo smart and wise and handsome and correct#He wouldn't feel this way about Chakotay (Tuvok has grown and Chakotay is too stable and kind)#but that doesn't mean there isn't a little twinge of that badboy allure every now and then (Tuvok /hates/ this...Chakotay must NEVER know)#Tuvok: We should technobabble technobabble. / Chakotay: How long will that take? / Tuvok: Approximately one hour.#Chakotay: We can't wait that long. -does some on the fly big brain bullshit- There. -grins- That's how we did it in the Maquis.#Tuvok: -pupils fully dilated- .......Need I remind you that I was /in/ the Maquis Commander? -walks past him-#Chakotay: -calling after him- Then you do it next time~!!!#this post can be about chakotay/tuvok or the whole polycule <3#Janeway#Chakotay#Tuvok#Janeway & Tuvok constantly question each others taste in men but they sync up to say 'Commander Chakotay' before losing it again
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trillscienceofficer · 7 months
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“Distant Shores” (Voyager short story collection, 2005) review: meh
I'd hoped this collection would be better, frankly; luckily the stories that involve B'Elanna (and there were quite a few of them, to my surprise) are mostly okay. Kes also appears prominently in at least two stories but Harry didn't really get one where he's the protagonist, and I'm surprised none involved Naomi or the Borg kids. Three stories seemed very concerned with the surviving Equinox crew and at least two seemed to want to vindicate them somehow?? I don't know, weird choices. But regardless, the problem wasn't so much in the ideas but in the execution, which was often atrocious.
story-by-story breakdown under the cut
“Da capo al fine” by Heather Jarman - this is the 'frame' story, you get to read the first half at the beginning and the second half at the end, but this story doesn't work so well for this purpose as the one on “The Lives of Dax” did for that collection. The plot is about Admiral Janeway and her last moments with the Borg Queen in “Endgame” but, idk. I think the author wanted to write a reckoning with all of Janeway's arch-nemeses but the story fails to have any stakes.
“Command Code” by Robert Greenberg - Tuvok and Chakotay get snippy on the bridge once Chakotay is left in command very soon after “Caretaker”. The concept is intriguing! Unfortunately the author's style is as dull as watching paint dry.
“Winds of Change” by Kim Sheard - this one was really fun! After being possessed by Tieran, Kes is struggling with her anger and reactivity so she goes to B'Elanna for help, and they try some of B'Elanna's sports holoprograms. This does not go well! Everything seems lost until B'Elanna offers a different approach to holoprograms, and it turns out they can work well together. This was just a really nice take on a dynamic that was really underexplored in the show (the author makes a point to say so as explicitly as she can), and it's honestly one of the best stories in the bunch.
“Talent Night” by Jeffrey Lang - my man Jeffrey (of “String Theory - Cohesion” fame) contributes to the collection with a hilarious story concept and great characterization for all involved, mostly B'Elanna, Tom and Harry, who are in charge of organizing said talent night. I can almost forgive the fact that it just an elaborate setup to get B'Elanna and Tom together by making B'Elanna needlessly jealous. Almost.
“Letting Go” by Keith R. A. DeCandido - this story is about the ones 'left behind' by Voyager, the families and loved one of the crew back in the AQ. I think I would've liked this way more if the author had chosen to follow anyone else other than Janeway's fiancé Mark. I liked how grounded the story is in the events of DS9 and First Contact and the range of reactions that all these people have to Voyager's disappearance, but I found myself wondering more about Greskrendtregk and T'Pel than Mark. I also found it hilarious that the story ends with Mark having married someone else and having to write to Janeway, who he's just learned is still alive, about it. I have to say though that it was a nice touch to have a lot of the people involved be the families of the crewmen who died in “Caretaker”—they obviously don't know what happened but the reader does, so their presence lends a lot of emotional gravity to the narrative.
“Closure” by James Swallow - Seven and Neelix get trapped in a cave that used to be inhabited by aliens and Neelix walks off to find a way out when—Kes shows up. Is it a vision, induced by the Ocampa artifacts in the cave? Is it actually Kes who's come back to say goodbye? It doesn't make much difference to Neelix, who is very glad to see her again. I think I would've appreciated this story more if it hadn't turned Neelix into too much of a lovesick fool; I don't like the idea that he actually never got over Kes with this kind of intense sentimentality. The story was enjoyable but something about it rubbed me the wrong way.
“The Secret Heart of Zolazus” by Robert T. Jeschonek - this one is terrible. Seven crash-lands on a planet and is saved by an outcast who pretty much gives her life for Seven and it's supposed to be ~inspirational~ or something but it's written in a way that... I don't know, reads exactly like one of those corny christian moral stories? I swear it's one of the most artless, embarrassing things I've read this year. The one thing it has going on is that Seven gets to kneel beside this dying alien girl who's taken a hit for her and so you can read some subtext in there, but the horrifying ableism is truly not worth the ticket!
“Isabo's Shirt” by Kirsten Beyer - the horrors aren't over though because this story is worse!! It's unabashedly J/C but oh boy both Chakotay and Janeway are so HORRIBLY out of character I couldn't cope. How did this even get published? Is this shipping brain at its worst?? Plus it's embarrassingly racist. I was never particularly interested in this ship but if THIS is in any way representative I am for sure steering well clear.
“Brief Candle” by Christopher L. Bennet - note: if you can't understand the distinction between romance and workplace sexual harassment you should probably not be writing romance! This is particularly galling because this is the 'Marika Wilkarah lives on Voyager for a few weeks' story which is something I wanted to see explored for a long time, and like... Marika HAS some interiority and convictions in this story but 1. we never see her really interact with other Bajorans if not in hindsight (why??) 2. her remaining resentment for Seven is barely mentioned and 3. she basically wants to be close to someone before dying and? essentially harasses Harry into having a relationship with her?? what???? If this were a fic it should get a 'dead dove do not eat' label. That was so, so awful and such a disappointment for the interesting concept this story promised to be. As I said in a previous post, the one thing this story has got going on is that Marika sides with B'Elanna during the events of “Barge of the Dead”, which I think it's a great take! But not enough to make me forget how bad the rest is.
“Eighteen Minutes” by Terry Osborne - the story of the time the Doctor spent on the planet from “Blink of an Eye” before he got beamed back to Voyager. I'm always extremely ambivalent about Doctor episodes/stories and this one is no exception. On one hand, the conflict he faces between his programmed-in hippocratic oath and the prime directive is believable, but on the other it ends up being another one of those weird power fantasies in which the Doctor gets the boundless gratitude and undying affection of the people around him because... he's done his job as a medical practitioner? It feels in character but I don't have to like it!
“Or The Tiger” by Geoffrey Thorne - LOVELY B'Elanna characterization in this one right until the ending, which I hated. Authors always tend to exaggerate B'Elanna's propensity for violence when in reality the show consistently shows her being very restrained and extremely remorseful whenever she snaps (and she only snaps because people tell her constantly that she's unable to control herself!) It's one of those stories where the point is 'aw the Equinox crew is trying very hard to make amends and the Voyager people are being mean to them' which... baffles me as a setup? It was interesting to see B'Elanna believably get into a rabbit hole when confronted with new technology that could help Voyager! But I'm not sure she wouldn't have snapped out of it as soon as it was pointed out to her that she might've been hurting living beings with her actions. We've seen B'Elanna struggle with this kind of moral quandaries before (“Prototype” and “Dreadnought” come to mind), so that the conflict dragged out for as long as it did here (and that she beat someone up for it!) feels deeply out of character to me.
“Bottomless” by Ilsa J. Bick - another one of 'the Equinox crew deserved a second chance!' stories, this time with crewman Marla Gilmore. I loved the technological conundrum (what do you do if your submersible is stuck on the bottom of the sea??) and Marla's lingering guilt and resentment felt believable and genuine. Shame that she expresses this mostly by being mean to B'Elanna (thought it happens mostly in her head), and you get the feeling she's just sharing the author's POV, since she has Tom saying some terrible garbage too... there's really nothing quite as diabolic as misogyny (and misogyny that's racially coded) coming from women authors! Ultimately Marla sacrifices herself to save Janeway and Chakotay and in so doing she expiates all of her Equinox sins, which would be okay (I guess) if it wasn't the exact same plot of “Brief Candle”, for some reason.
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mylittleredgirl · 2 years
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Imagine, if you will, that you are sent back in time. You are now a showrunner on Voyager through timey-wimey Q reasons. You can now add an arc to a character that deals with mental illness(and deal with it well). Who do you choose and why?
oh i'm immediately sweating at the idea of being responsible for something like that! 😂
[three hours later]: i wrote the longest tumblr dot com essay of my life about mental illness in voyager. it's below the readmore.
tl;dr: voyager Did Some Things with janeway, b'elanna, and chakotay, and i ultimately choose b'elanna, because i think that arc has the most interesting facets to pull apart.
so, voyager does have a few mental illness episodes already: "night" (janeway; depression), "extreme risk" (b'elanna; parasuicidal behavior), and "the fight" (chakotay; psychosis). there are things to love and hate about each of them!
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"night" sure is a portrait of depression, in a way that's hard for me to even watch. it's a great episode and mulgrew nails it, but the depression isn't named, and it's not treated at all -- the scene where the crew mutinies to keep her from sacrificing herself is great family feels, but the overall solution to janeway's mental breakdown is to fling her back into the fire. "we need you so don't leave us" is a different message than "we see your suffering and are here to help you through it."
janeway needs and deserves a multi-episode arc with how they set it up, and she doesn't get one. HOWEVER, if it were up to me and i were designing the show, i would choose to give my mental health arc to someone other than the captain, especially the first female captain of the franchise. it's 1998 and my girl has enough PR problems.
gender aside, i want my arc to have open disclosure and community support, and that creates real problems when she's at the very top of the military hierarchy (in voyager especially, with no external oversight or chance for respite). any significant mental health arc involving the captain will be about her captaincy as much as her healing.
remember the exchange between the doctor and janeway in "year of hell" when he tries to remove her from command for mental health reasons and she just... says no? what if it's chakotay instead? what if it's tuvok? what if it's the whole command staff sitting around together discussing whether or not to have a mutiny? what if it's the whole world sitting around discussing whether a woman with mental illness is capable of being in charge of something important like people's lives? and is it irresponsible for her not to step aside for someone "saner"? if we put this up for debate in the 90s, we are not going to like what comes out.
realistically, janeway's mental health does impact her command decisions sometimes. the more people who know she has a diagnosed condition, even in the far-flung enlightened future, the more people who are going to have this bit of data in their mind when they consider her more extreme orders and actions.
it's very messy. it's interesting messy, but not the best option for star trek's first time digging into this.
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i really like "extreme risk," especially the end -- b'elanna is healing, but it will be a journey. it portrays the whole thing so well: the way b'elanna is living this silent parallel life from everyone else that they don't know about, the way they try to reach her but can't, the way she hides it, the way she articulates it.
on the flip side, the "treatment" she gets in that episode is absolutely batshit, and that should really come up more whenever someone says that chakotay would make a good ship's counselor. (neelix, on the other hand, is a GEM to b'elanna here and elsewhere.) if janeway's psychiatric treatment plan was "more work," b'elanna's is "more trauma" (and then more work). i'm going to come back to this one!
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"the fight" is like... the worst if someone is looking for "good representation." it is not handled well. AND YET, it's the only episode where it's explicitly called out as mental illness (even if it's a made-up one), and the ONLY episode where anyone says it can be treated (successfully!!) with ongoing use of medication. prior to that, we saw mental illness treated one of two ways in trek: counseling (mostly for situational, trauma-based mental illness), or institutionalization (some tos episodes & ds9 "statistical probabilities"). it's wild watching the reg barclay episodes now, wondering why deanna wasn't encouraging him to take an anti-anxiety hypospray.
i've blogged about this before, but i feel like there's some realism in the Terrible Representation parts of "the fight." hear me out: mental illness can be fucking terrifying. especially in the case of a sudden acute onset, it can feel like it will ruin your life. untreated mental illness can be a burden on those around you and impact the children in your home.
also, chakotay has established, unresolved internalized issues with his own culture, so the fact that his grandfather refused treatment on spiritual grounds is going to be a tough thing for him to respect or forgive (and might actually be the origin of some of his resistance to his culture!!). the fact that he's rude and dismissive about his grandfather ("crazy old man") is pretty shocking from someone as generally open-minded and caring as chakotay, but it works... as a starting point, where he's terrified and facing his worst childhood fear that he has never processed as an adult.
so that's where this episode blows it: it brings up all these terrible mental illness stereotypes and then just leaves them there unchallenged. chakotay goes on an emotional journey toward surrender (he has to let himself go "crazy" in order for the ship to survive), but there's no journey toward acceptance. he doesn't come away from it with a greater appreciation for his culture or with a new empathy for his grandfather. and because it's medically handwaved off-screen, he never has to think about it again.
i'm honestly obsessed with the possibilities here for chakotay, but in the context of 90s episodic trek, i don't think i need to spend my magical Q-powers multi-episode arc to fix this. this genuinely could have been wrapped into the end of the episode (and left to the hurt/comfort fic writers after that).
because they don't NEED to magically cure chakotay! it has already been established in the episode that his condition can be managed with "a couple of hyposprays a day." imagine that it's the spring of 1999, and a Strong Male Lead in a family viewing tv show now takes prescription psych meds!!! and they work!!! not only is he on his way back to being first officer with this permanent condition on his medical chart, his mental illness is evidence of heroism, not weakness. at the climax of the episode, the doctor fully activates the gene (with chakotay's permission) so that he can communicate with the aliens -- with an implied warning that it may not be reversible.
so if i'm in charge, we get a scene at the end that's more emotionally in line with the end of "extreme risk": chakotay isn't happy about this outcome, but he will continue to live his life and serve the ship with the full trust of his captain and crew. "this is part of me forever, but i can learn to live with it" kind of vibe. he hopes this will be an opportunity for him to better understand his grandfather, but he's making a different choice that's right for him (medical treatment). janeway says she's here for him. maybe in a future episode we get a mention, the way we do with neelix's single lung. dishes are done.
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so now, my multi-episode arc can go to b'elanna.
because she needs it. her situation is complex! she has childhood trauma and self-hatred and so much other internalized shit that she needs to process, embrace, and/or unlearn.
and the bones of the arc are already there! there's obviously a connecting line between "faces" and "lineage," because both are about b'elanna not wanting to be klingon due to childhood abandonment, but i feel like a line should also be drawn between "extreme risk" and "lineage" too.
in "extreme risk," she tries to cut her trauma out of herself. she tries to do the same to her unborn child in "lineage" (not incidentally, by undergoing a medical procedure herself). in both cases, she has a "this is the only reasonable course of action" attitude about a WILDLY unreasonable course of action, which feels very personally familiar to me from a mental illness perspective.
in both episodes, her extreme behavior is treated as something situational (as a response to grief; as the result of a hormone imbalance) but it would be soooooo easy and good to tie these things together into a recurring character arc toward treatment and wholeness.
with the exception of "extreme risk," all of b'elanna's issues get pinned on her being klingon ("juggernaut," for instance, where she is sent to punitive meditation lessons to learn to control her temper). any mental health arc for her would have to tease that apart -- what's her natural temperament? what's a chemical imbalance? what's internalized racism? what's an unhealthy coping mechanism? what's a trauma response?
i would love - love!!! - for her depression to be identified as specifically a human problem, and for her to find ways to lean into her klingon side to help her.
that's actually a really important part of this, to make sure it isn't star-trek-ed too deeply into an Alien Metaphor. actually name it! let this forge connections between her and others on the ship! talk about the how the doctor can fix the chemical imbalance (it's the 24th century, after all), but that's not the end of the work that needs to happen.
b'elanna is in charge of a department and could be in charge of away missions, so we can still explore the "is someone with this still capable" question that we could with janeway, but in a way that's more manageable for the audience to take in (basically, something like "juggernaut" reimagined through this lens).
and maybe, instead of janeway at the end of my reworked version of "the fight" up there, b'elanna's the one to offer chakotay support and hope, sharing some of her hard-earned expertise. her hard journey is now a Good Thing as well, because of how she can support others.
thank you anonymous friend for this theoretical exercise, and congratulations to anyone who read this all the way to the end!
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Chapter 7
They had been three weeks on Tuvok's ship with no sign of Amal of the lost Lohengrin. Starfleet Command had reluctantly commission the expedition on the proviso that they also carried out missions in the sector they were searching. Most of these were tasks that Starfleet didn't want to send a larger ship to do and were often relationship building with semi friendly species. Today they were sent to checkin with the Gablath people in the hope they would join the federation.
Tuvok and Janeway were treated to a series of long and fruitless talks followed by a rather large evening banquet. "Lord Commissioner, as I previously mentioned we cannot get involved in Partisan wars, however the Federation takes the task of defending its people most seriously" Kathryn said as she threw a crooked smile at the Gablath leader. "Admiral, I can assure you our people have been inhabiting the Vrindor Moon for millennia, the Trinn are colonising it for its precious metals" the Commissioner countered. He stood to pull down a large screen attached to a wall when a large explosion shook the dining hall. The ceiling was falling in and fire was burning through the hall. "Tuvok to Voyager" Tuvok called as they ran for the exit but there was only static in response. Kathryn could see armed soldiers coming in from the main entrance and pulled Tuvok down a small corridor, as they raced down, they noticed to their dismay that a fallen pillar blocked the way ahead. They stood for a moment catching their breath when Tuvok noticed a small handle on the floor. He pulled it up revealing a set of steps.
The basement was damp and dingy, there were small rat like rodents scampering into the holes and the air was humid. "Well that was not how I expected the evening to end, I'm glad I wore flats" Kathryn tried to lighten the mood. She saw Tuvok bent over "Admiral, I regret to inform you I think my ankle is broken, you may be forced to escape without me" he stated sadly.
"Tuvok, I went all the way to the Delta Quadrant to rescue you. Your bravery and widosm has saved me a thousand times over. So with all due respect, shut the fuck up old man" Kathryn smiled. "You need to at least raise it and I'll explore this room, it looks like it may connect with others, this might be our way out."
On board Voyager Chakotay was frantically trying to locate the officers' life signs. The small ships had come out of nowhere and he watched in horror as the main city went up in flames, building complexes disappearing before his eyes. He tried hailing the small ships to no avail and couldn't contact anyone on the planet either. "I'm taking a shuttle to the surface, we don't have much time" he said the Commander, who retorted "Captain Tuvok would certainly not approve of putting another officer at risk, seems your Maquis ways have not left for good".
"He'll thank me later" Chakotay shouted over his shoulder"
The planet's surface was a chaotic inferno, people running everywhere. Chakotay hurried against the crowds to Tuvok and Kathryn's last knowm co-ordinates. The hall was a heap of rubble, even using his phaser Chakotay couldn't cut through it. He noticed to one side an alien that did not look like one he had encountered before. She was much shorter with whiskers that reminded him of Neelix, she seemed to be stuck under a bar. Chakotay ran over and lifted it up, the alien studied him, seemingly unsure whether to attack or not.
"You don't belong here?"
"No, we are passing through, my friends were in this hall before it collapsed. Did your people do this?"
"The Gablath have commited many atrosities against my people, this is relatiation for those we have lost. You would be wise to leave immediately"
"I can't leave without my friends" Chakotay turned to leave.
"There is a large, deep basement system under this complex, I could guide you to them? However I am vuberable as my weapon was destroyed, I see yours is intact" the alien nodded at Chakotay's phaser.
Chakotay touched his belt. Giving federation weapons to a race who would immediately use them against a possibly innocent enemy with deadly force was absolutely against the Prime Directive. Chakotay knew he should leave but he thought of all the times Kathryn had put herself in her own personal morality hell in her desperate journey in the Delta Quadrant and found his feet rooted to the spot.
In the basement The situation had become dire. Kathryn struggled to breathe in the subterranean air not meant for human lungs. Tuvok could breathe but do little more than hobble, he held his friend in his arms as her pulse weakened fighting against his own sadness to provide Kathryn with solace in her final moments. He felt a tear trickle down his cheek as he heard a familiar voice and shouted with all the strength he could muster "Captain Chakotay, you must help Kathryn immediately, over here, before it is too late". Chakotay could have sworn he saw the Vulcan look relieved as his torch found their bodies in the darkness.
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"You did WHAT?????" Kathryn was fully recovered and unleashing her fury on Chakotay in Tuvok's ready room. "I'll happily take the court marshall, I'll happily leave Starfleet. There was no way in the universe I was leaving without you, to hell with the Prime Directive and the almighty rules" Chakotay was taken aback with his own forcefulness. Weeks of pain and worry about Amal and now compounding it with the almost loss of Kathryn made Chakotay feel he had little to lose. In the Maquis he had experience guaging which side of the fight to pick, it almost felt good to connect with those ways again.
"Tuvok, will put this in his logs you know, so I'll have possibly lost my son and lost my stupid fucking husband to bloody PRISON" Kathryn yelled, unable to believe Chakotay's actions.
"Actually admiral" Tuvok interjected "I have no proof of the alleged trade, the alien helping us did not seem to have a Starfleet issue phaser on his person when he arrived, there was a lot of commotion when we exited the basement, it could have fell, been pick pocketed or simply left behind when Chakotay carried the admiral. I will offer my theories in my logs but logically, the city was razed, the phaser was likely destroyed. Now, with all due respect Admiral, Captain, as this is my ready room you are dismissed"
Kathryn couldn't contain her anger as she walked through the corridors to their quarters. "Chakotay, you are jepordising this mission, Amal needs us to not be drawing attention to ourselves and getting into trouble. This is exactly why I couldn't allow a relationship when you were my CO. Less than a month in and our personal feelings have allowed Starfleet WEAPONARY no less into the hands of a hostile alien." They reached the door and walked through, Kathryn marched into the bathroom and furiously locked the door. Chakotay heard the bath taps running and sank against the wall closing his eyes.
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ichayalovesyou · 3 years
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hmmm your post about the mirror mirror mind meld got me thinking, cos i always thought mccoy looked absolutely terrified? it's weird but it reminds me of a time i woke up to see a spider lowering itself down from the ceiling towards my head (i'm terrified of spiders). to me it's a facial expression that says "please god no tell me this isn't happening" rather than panic (of course expressions vary wildly from person to person).
and your right, mccoy is smart, but i don't think that would've made much difference, mirrorspock clearly had more mental control than he did (and that's assuming the mind meld wasn't so disorientating and painful that mccoy couldn't form coherent thoughts)
also like even if mccoy did manage to try and convince mirrorspock to let them go, it still doesn't change the fact that he went through something extremely harrowing and violating. like, it still happened, mirrorspock still forced a mind meld on him, and if star trek writers weren't incapable of writing about trauma he'd certainly be affected by it.
anyway idk these are just thoughts i had and was interested to see your response
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Maybe so, and there’s no debating about whether or not it was consensual at all, but I didn’t get the vibe it was ripped from him the way we saw it get ripped from Valeris. Or that Mirror!Spock was nearly as malevolent as the rest of the MirrorVerse squad. As a matter of fact (this is speculative I know) I got the vibe that the Mirror Triumvirate’s dynamic is closer to what we see in AOS where Spones and McKirk are soft while Spirk are the ones who bicker. Especially with how Mirror!Spock describes Mirror!Bones as “soft” which lends itself to a couple ideas, that Mirror!Bones might be in the same category of unchanged in comparison to his Prime counterpart as Spock, and there’s a begrudging sort of affection there.
Then there’s the mind meld itself, if anyone of the TOS crew was well-equipped to deal with Spock, even as a non-Vulcan, is Bones. Bones was the first person of the main characters Spock confided in about the Mind Meld and its nature, he saw it happen (and it wouldn’t surprise me if he did some research). I think Bones recognized what was about to go down the second Mirror!Spock grabbed him. I honestly think that fear (if my theory/canon checks out) is not initially, knowing Spock’s intentions, and just how much stronger Spock is than him.
Now what does Bones normally do in conflict situations? He bends with and around the situation, he mirrors it, he’s kinda like a waterbender in that way, until he can find a place to dig his heels in. He does that with Khan by playing along with his threat, he does it by pretending to bargain with Thalayssa to get information, he does it to incapacitate his friends so that the Vians will take him. He does it time, time, and time again with Prime!Spock too, dishing out what he takes until he’s got something Spock can’t argue/fight with. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t do that with Mirror!Spock.
If this version of Spock wanted to know who they were, why they’d come, what they’re intentions were, than by god he was gonna get it (I imagine Bones was thinking). A lot of people forget that a meld is a two way street even with the most disciplined of Vulcans (like the after effects Tuvok suffered from melding with Lon Suder, or Spock’s vulnerability from melding with The Horta). Spock may be the more “disciplined” between the two of them, he was just as subject to McCoy’s thoughts as Bones was to his. We also don’t know what exactly was going on in Mirror!Spock’s head either, he may have been prepared to rip the answers from him, but he might not have had to because of of my previous point. Or heck, if my Mirror!Spones idea is correct, the meld may have been more of a plea than a threat. Are you my Bones? Why are Uhura and Scotty involved? Why is Jim sabotaging himself? Why did the captain let me live? Bones, instead of fighting, which he knew damn well he couldn’t, gave him as much and as best of the truth as he could. If he had an inkling of Mirror!Spock’s integrity (which he did). He showed him who he was, who Jim was, the way things were where they were from, appealing to the core of Spock that no timeline could change, because he knows Spock.
I’m not saying it wasn’t traumatizing (most conflicts are) but that situation felt much more ambiguous and nuanced than Spock being forced to rip information out of Valeris in a battle of wills so hard she screamed, in order to prevent full blown war between Klingons and The Federation.
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