greetings tumblr user astrobei. i present you with a question i humbly ask you answer posthaste as this is being asked by a crab shaped acquaintance of yours who wants to know.
what is one thing you want in s5 that you haven’t seen anyone else really talk about
AH ! thinking so hard. so deeply. idk about things i haven’t seen anyone talk about bc i do bounce a lot of ideas off of the people i talk to so i lose track of what’s talked about In General vs w my friends but hmm. HMMM. i know people have prob talked about this i just haven’t seen as much lately but smth that is so so personally important to me is a mike and jonathan talk bc !! jonathan was there for so many of mike’s moments regarding will and el in s2-4 and he saw the shed scene and he saw mike with will in s2 and he saw mike get distant and change in s3 and he saw mike with will alone in his room (interruption trope hello) and in the van vs how mike was when he was with el over the last two seasons and like. OH i just need them to talk so bad bc jonathan has literally seen him grow up and i think this fact should be talked about more like. jonathan has known him as long as will has known him! he knows mike! he knows this isn’t like him! so like. idk basically a very long winded way of saying that 1. jonathan byers’ un-amusement w mike wheeler stems from him knowing that this behavior is Not Like Mike and 2. not to byler-ify everything but. he knows. he totally knows. and also 3. even in a non-byler context i just need mike to not be having a great time n i think he’ll be dealing w some guilt and inadequacy etc and i think it would be so great if jonathan talked to him about it. that is all
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did kyle cry when he found out raven was stan
yes...A Lot.
which is kind of a big deal, because jersey kyle...
never cries.
ever.
so its a large part of the Why Can't Jersey Say I Love You ask meme, that, ik, is taking me forever -- i have so many asks rn haha -- but for the sake of context/lore, i will summarize part of it here. ( badly )
in essence, kyle, who is the least okay/mentally fortified person ever, is under the false pretense that everything in his life is fine...bc he refuses to process that it isn't. because to him, as long as everything is going to plan, w/ no detours or distractions...Everything Is Perfect.
see, kyle...likes to plan. kyle likes order. kyle does not like chaos.
he does not like to deal with messy, complex human emotions, fussy things, upsetting things, dramatic things, any kind of touchy feelings. its inefficient, makes you vulnerable, its embarrassing, its impractical. most of all...its unpleasant/upsetting. kyle doesn’t do unpleasant and upsetting...kyle Is unpleasant and upsetting.
and after stan died...kyle wept inconsolably. he cried rivers, lakes and oceans, day in and day out, only to realize that all the puffy eyed, red cheeked, blubbering and snot...were for naught, because kyle could cry until he died of dehydration, sob until his chest was swollen, scream until his throat was raw & bloody; it didn't matter.
because it wouldn't bring stan back.
...that no matter what he did, how hard he begged, bartered or pleaded...at the end of the day, his sweet, precious stanley marsh was still Dead and kyle was still the same sad little boy he always was, drowning in his sorrows & his dead super best friend's jacket, weak and whimpering, eyes warbling. a waste. a weakling. a worm.
so one day...he just...Stopped.
he just stopped feeling things.
completely.
as a coping mechanism ( aka not-coping ) he just decided to compartmentalize all those uncomfortable, intense feelings, anything that wasn't useful to him and ignored them all together. pretended like they didn't exist. will not humor them. which makes sense bc in addition to not crying, kyle also doesn't laugh.
this, i think, is interesting because, to keep himself 'safe' and in working order at all times, kyle doesn't think about unpleasant things, he also is outwardly abhorrent to prevent things from getting to close to him, anything he could get attached to or might get sentimental about because he doesn't like to be vulnerable at all.
conversely, stan feels things extremely deeply and all the time. so he is constantly in distress and disarray because at all times, he is aware of how Sad he is and can't compartmentalize things like kyle can.
( can we see why it might be super easy for ravenstan to tell someone he loves them and why it would be really hard for jerseykyle? fML )
but back to kyle who count on both hands...maybe one hand...the amount of times he's cried.
he cried the morning after the sadie hawkins dance in sixth grade when all the news crews and ambulances and firetrucks were at stans old house, watching them put shelley in a body bag, and telling him like, in stans jacket, that they couldn't find him and that the flames were so hot that he probably got incinerated in the blaze.
he cried when he found out raven was stan. it was...a lot.
he also cried...
...when they broke up during the ravesey divorce. </3
like it was....Oooooof. it was so sad and fucked up. like when i tell you jersey kyle, like scary ass jerseykyle, who never bends to Anyone, was literally on his hands and knees begging ravenstan to stay I'MMM :(
he was clinging onto the hem of stan's shorts, absolutely devastated, lip quivering, fucking hyperventilating like nononono--stan, don't go! please, Please don't go! please, please, please don't go! :(( don't leave!! don't leave!! waitwaitwait!!! i do! please just--just Wait!!! :(( i do, baby! i Really do! so, so much and -- i! FUCK!!! i can--i can Say it! please just give me one second! i can--NO!!! NONONO sTAN, PLEA
sigh....*narrator vc* He Could Not Say It.
it was sooooo goddamn AWFUL!!! like literally the one thing that kyle fears the most in the world is losing stanley marsh which had already happened once and was now happening AGAIN??? oh my Godddd
his abandonment issues are so gnarly :'(
aStandonment more like
he also held it together while stan was there, however, the second that door closed, kyle wept BROKENLY into stans big shirt, full body shaking, knees to his chest, loud, open mouth sobbing, the knees of his pajama pants drenched, desperately trying to reach stan, to try and explain himself with words that wouldn't come, only to find that stan had blocked him...On Everything.
it was AAAaaAAa ;-;
uUuUuGh!!! plus it's sooooo sad and Scary when jerseykyle cries because it basically triggers a massive, full-blown Panic Attack!! because he's like oh god why am i suddenly feeling every bad thing ive ever repressed? why can't i breathe? why does my Chest Hurt??
:(( jErSey
hell is a PLACE, bitch!
anyways...tldr: yes, kyle did cry when he found out raven was stan. he cried when he lost stan, found stan...and then lost stan again.
fun! :)
-uncle nina, jojo posing at the gates of gay boy angst hell
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