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jakud · 28 days
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Two Wolves (2023)
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I was not “homeschooled,” I was a Bokken Jedi, trained in the wild
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fulcrum-art-fox · 7 months
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My editing skills are nonexistent but that meme with the lady yelling at the cat, but with Baylan being all “you two are being bad influences on my daughter!” while Sabine and Ezra look smug
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mostlyrubbish · 7 months
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so like has anyone said about how ezra, sabine and shin could be an epic polycule because they could be an epic polycule. the bokken jedi
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gffa · 8 months
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Further to the idea that Ahsoka agreed to train Sabine because she wasn’t strong in the Force and therefore was “safe”, that she would never be a Jedi like Anakin Skywalker was a Jedi, she could never fall to the dark side in the same way Anakin fell to it, she doesn’t train Grogu because Grogu could fall like Anakin fell, she even says his attachments are dangerous like Anakin’s were dangerous, meanwhile Sabine can’t--I kind of love that Ahsoka is all over the map re: the Jedi. She has the Jedi training droid that has trained thousands and thousands of Jedi Padawans, she specifically had to have found him and brought him with her, instead of handing him over to Luke or something.  The Jedi training droid that she knows whips out prequels era Jedi wisdom all the time. She trains Sabine in the exact same way we’ve seen every other baby Jedi start out with as their foundation--the visor covering their eyes, to force them to feel their connection to the Force.  Yoda did this with the younglings in AOTC, Obi-Wan did this with Luke in the OT, Kanan did this with Ezra in Rebels. Ahsoka’s advice is the same advice we’ve heard prequels Jedi give their students--using the Force isn’t easy, it takes discipline, it requires control, you have to be dedicated to this. Everything about the training scene is meant to evoke the traditional ways of the Jedi, the way Ahsoka herself was taught--right down to the blinds in the background are practically a mirror image of the blinds of the dojo in the Jedi Temple, that soft, warm lighting is so evocative of the prequels Jedi aesthetic. Ahsoka says that the Jedi failed, that this is why she’s training someone the Jedi would never have trained, but then trains her in exactly the way the Jedi would have trained her, the same philosophy, the same foundational basics, the same tools the Jedi used (the Jedi even used bokken for the less skilled like Sabine was using here!), all of it is the same-- Except for Ahsoka’s conflict within herself.  She’s still conflicted about having left Anakin, she’s still conflicted about how she never had a chance to go back to the Jedi Order, that she wanted to, she was going to at the end of TCW, but then Anakin stole that chance from her and she’s never put those feelings to rest, because she feels she failed. She sees herself as a failed Jedi, so she denies that the Jedi path is her path, she says the Jedi ways failed, but then immediately turns back to those same ways to teach Sabine--because Ahsoka is conflicted within her own heart about the Jedi and her relationship with them.  She says she doesn’t need Sabine to be a Jedi, just to be herself, but that’s also true of Ahsoka--she just can’t admit to herself yet that she is still a Jedi Jedi.
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autistic-puffin · 7 months
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AHSOKA SPOILERS AHEAD
(also, long post apparently)
i'm actually kind of obsessed with this latest tidbit from baylan. the fact that he decided to reframe the fall of the jedi both as something inevitable, a repeated pattern throughout history, and that they had coming due to their own weakness, instead of what it is (genocide).
we've all seen how different jedi responded, how some became inquisitors or otherwise turned to the dark side, how some turned their backs on the force entirely (like kanan tried to), how some stayed completely hidden and separate (yoda), how some ended up training new jedi (like kanan also did)
it's really interesting to me that baylan is aware of the other "wild" jedi (bokken jedi, apparently), and considers himself different and separate from them, but shin still associates herself with the bokken jedi. when they first appeared, given their red lightsabers, i figured they had to be more sith-aligned, though probably not outright sith. if they're gray enough for shin to still consider herself as jedi-trained before baylan corrects her, then that's super interesting to me also.
the other day i rewatched the first two episodes of rebels. the very first episode opens with darth vader telling the grand inquisitor to hunt down the force sensitive children - and any surviving jedi that could train them. i am beyond obsessed with the apparent inevitability that jedi will train new jedi, but moreso also with the different ways we see this play out.
there's kanan, who retains his jedi identity (obviously there were some bumps along the road with that) and has a proper padawan he trains/raises to be a jedi.
there's ahsoka "i am no jedi" tano, the "part-timer", who does also apparently take on a (basically not force sensitive) padawan and abandons her. we also see her refuse to train grogu.
and now there's baylan skoll, who trains a padawan to be "more" than a jedi, who seems (at least sometimes) reluctant to kill other jedi, who has semi-fond memories of the temple, whose padawan seems actually uncertain about their status as jedi or not.
both ahsoka and baylan definitely exist in the gray between jedi and sith, with ahsoka basically still being a jedi and baylan being much more dark side-adjacent.
it's just so fascinating to me that we've seen multiple jedi/former-jedi/jedi-adjacent people that are so bitter and disillusioned with the jedi order, so critical of their failures and shortcomings, that they seem to ignore the reality of what happened. they were massacred. their home and the center of their culture was burned, their children were murdered, they were shot down by their own troops in the field, they were chased and hunted down and killed. regardless of the very real flaws of the jedi order, they didn't deserve that. no one does.
i think baylan's reframing makes a lot of sense as a classic trauma response. "this bad thing that happened was actually for a reason beyond palpatine's agenda, the jedi were too weak." because if there were real reasons, then it's preventable. he also, though, views it as a continuing pattern in history. the key thing here is that he thinks (apparently) it's a pattern that he can stop. he seems to both think it was the fault of the jedi for their weakness but also an inevitable pattern of history. he addresses both by raising his apprentice to be "more" than a jedi and by this mysterious plan to stop the cycle of history from repeating itself.
this is the longest post i've written about star wars in a minute and i'm not entirely sure my thoughts have made sense (definitely doubtful they'll be read). i also haven't looked at what people have been saying for this week's episode, so it'll be hilarious if someone else has already spoken on this. it's turning around in circles in my brain. i just think the post-order 66 jedi are really really interesting and i think about them a lot
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isagrimorie · 8 months
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One thing I keep thinking about while I watch Ahsoka train Sabine -- is that she's learned what not to do training another person from Anakin.
Anakin's training for Ahsoka as shown in Tales of the Jedi was brutal and effective and helped save her life but I love that Ahsoka recognized, that it's not always an ideal way to train someone else.
But also I think Sabine's form is really good (which tbf when she has the helmet on, is actually the stunt performer).
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I want to acknowledge to the various ways Star Wars Ahsoka is influenced by Samurai movies, just the way the Jedi were influenced by Samurai movies with George Lucas.
I also love that they named the no sight bokken training after Zaitochi the blind Samurai (who, Donnie Yen, apparently modeled Chirrut Imwe from).
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I also love how much this looks like a dojo -- plus the circular thing on the floor was also part of the Jedi training room.
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I appreciate the consistency in the design.
But also with Sabine using the wooden bokken for training I keep thinking of that guy who comments on movie/TV swordfighting who I really like. He would appreciate them using practice swords instead of the ultra dangerous lightsabers for training.
It's like the medieval battle expert who keeps begging historical movies and TV shows to dig trenches around castles/keeps so the castles won't get swarmed.
But also it won't stop being funny to me that Ahsoka knows Luke is building his own Jedi academy and she has a whole ass Jedi learning tools, dojo and droid in her ship.
Would it be helpful for Luke to have Huyang while he's building his academy?
Sure.
But also, I know his school will be razed to the ground, so maybe not. I want to keep Huyang operational until the end of time, thank you very much.
Also, these Jedi things are her culture and what she grew-up on, she's preserving it. I'm not opposed to Ahsoka giving some things to Luke but also I am more for Ahsoka keeping some things for herself.
BUT ALSO
It's funnier that Ahsoka has all these things and Luke has books.
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balancingtheforce · 3 months
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In Ahsoka season 2, instead of Sabine wearing a padawan braid, I’d like her to totally redo her armor into something that signifies this new bokken Jedi order. Or maybe even wear somehow Ahsoka’s padawan braid from clone wars.
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bailey41 · 6 months
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Wolfwren Week 2023: Day 2
The ritualized courtship dance of the bokken Jedi we all love.
Poster is adapted from Samurai Rebellion (Masaki Kobayashi, Toho, 1967), one of the greatest films of the genre, starring two of the greatest actors to ever wield a bladed weapon. (Ask Ahsoka who taught her that move with Marrok).
Poster mine, all GIFs by boydswan
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varuunsith · 7 months
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you know what's a fun thought? "he was a bokken Jedi, trained out of the Order." "like me." implies that Shin considers herself a Jedi.
what's more, it reflects quite easily on all her scenes if you watch them with that in mind. she doesn't kill sabine, she incapacitates her. she trusts her master blindly, but obviously is not very sure about how everything is going down; but seems hesitant in questioning baylan's method (with no other evidence of, I'd wager because he's the closest thing to a father she has). lots of very specific scenes and framing of her watching sabine and pondering on something, reveled what it is when she says sabine is on "a fool's quest": she was pondering how sabine could join the enemy and jump galaxies just for one person. she probably sees ahsoka and sabine as non-jedi, and as such, enemies. how much does it come from baylan's teaching? how much did he train her like a Jedi, but didn't make it clear enough she wasn't one that she immediately compares herself to Ezra when she learns he's a Jedi trained out of the Order?
do with that what you will.
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nonhumanhottie · 7 months
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Ahsoka episode 6 live reaction
Ooh the rainbow lights within the purrgils travelling
Stories of the galaxy, told in part one, two and three, one being the best prequel reference? Or original trilogy reference?
Ahsoka don't blame Sabine she's going through it okay
They said the line!! ThE LINe
Room with a view? Okay Hannibal lecter
I can't even comprehend how big two galaxies are lmao
Purrgil corpses nice lmao
Sabine and Shin staring at each other for way too long
Actual live action nightsisters!!
It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets thr hose
Wolves???
It's like poetry it rhymes!!
It like Baylan in this episode
Thrawn????
How do they have fuel??
Oh night troopers? Slay
Thrawn!!!!
Oh listen to him bitch he sounds so good
If Enoch is Ezra I swear to gawd
Oh Thrawn's uniform is crusty bitch
Howler looks like a giant ridable rat
Girl don't send Howler away he has your shit??
Omg this is so rebels the little silly creatures!!
Bokken jedi??
EZRA EZRA EZRA
He's all grown up
I'm so happy he and Sabine got a nice reunion
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jedimandalorian · 8 months
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Ahsoka- Notes on Episode 3 and Kiner’s musical score:
Opening scene featuring mysterious, percussive new music.
Huyang trains Sabine, who is using a wooden practice saber (bokken). Ahsoka makes Sabine wear a masked helmet, reminiscent of how Obi-Wan trained Luke Skywalker. “I can’t see. How am I supposed to fight?” The music continues to emphasize percussion and plucked stringed instruments, intensifying along with the practice duel itself.
Music continues with title card and episode name, “Time to Fly.”
Camera follows A-wings to New Republic fleet. Fanfare of brass instruments. Music fades out for scenes inside hallway of Home One. Minimal music used to set a mood for briefing room scene.
We meet Jacen Syndulla who wants to be a Jedi. The incidental music sets the mood for this scene and the next one aboard Ahsoka’s ship. Sabine and Ahsoka talk about the Force and Jedi training accompanied by plucked strings and sustained tones.
Huyang: “I suppose you do come from a long line of non-traditional Jedi.” (I was cackling when he called out the Disaster Lineage that way.)
Sabine attempts to use the Force, and more mysterious music that seems unrelated to the Force theme is heard. A two note motive based on an ascending perfect fifth is heard in this scene. Since Ezra’s theme begins with an ascending fifth, this could be an indication of why Sabine is training so hard. She’s doing it for Ezra.
Holographic message from Hera. Ahsoka’s ship approaches Seatos. Music intensifies when space dogfight ensues. Battle music doesn’t present any familiar themes.
The first appearance of the purrgil is accompanied by vocalizing by an angelic-sounding chorus. Incidental music intensifies as the battle in the clouds continues.
When the ship has landed in the forest, Ezra’s theme is played softly after Sabine says “I haven’t seen those creatures since the day Ezra disappeared.” She looks happy, excited, and hopeful.
The music for the final scene with Baylan is sinister and reminiscent of music associated with the Emperor in the OT. The dum dat-dat dum dat-dat rhythmic motive from the beginning of episode 1 and the end credits music is used here, then the now-familiar end credits music plays.
Update: The Ronin motif is the ostinato that has the repeated rhythm that sounds like dum dat-dat dum dat-dat. I am glad that we now have a name for it.
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Links to previous posts about the music of Ahsoka
Episode 1
Episode 2
Main Character Theme Music
End Credits Music
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tomthefanboy · 7 months
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When Ezra and Ahsoka get back, Hera should quit the Navy and open a Flight School that doubles as a Jedi Training center seperate from Luke's temple so Jacen can survive "The Rise of Kylo Ren". She can even name it in Ezra's honor!
Bokken Wild Wings.
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fulcrum-art-fox · 7 months
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I just need Shin, Sabine and Ezra to be besties. Like can they just be a thick as thieves trio by the end who would have each others back no matter what. They could get a spaceship and travel the universe and help people and see things an explore and they could park it in new places and sit out on the ramp like it’s a porch and talk to each other till the small hours of the morning. The finer points of philosophy and the force and galactic history get debated in ever more heated discussions, in the fond way you joke-argue with your oldest friend. The ship quickly gets overrun with all manner of wild creature. They could pull a Kanan and Hera and just start adopting every feral child that comes their way. And when the galaxy needs them they could all groan and sigh and be like “yeah yeah fine we’re coming” and they’d complain but you bet they would come. Can they be a little family
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thecleverqueer · 7 months
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Ways I see Episode 8 of Ahsoka going:
Full discretion, I haven’t the slightest clue (which makes me nervous).
Up until now, I’ve had a pretty clear idea of where the narrative was headed, but I’m in the dark now. Still, here are my theories:
Thrawn absolutely makes it back to the known galaxy. I feel like this is an obvious given based on previous narratives (Mando season 3 and Filoni /Favreau interviews indicating that they wanted Thrawn to be the main villain of the era). I don’t know what Thrawn’s motivations are. Possibly revenge. Possibly a promise that he made to the emperor. Regardless, he’s going to bring the Imperial Remnants together. They’ll be a formidable force to be reckoned with. They’ll lead directly or slightly indirectly into the First Order.
Morgan Elsbeth will either make it out with Thrawn or will be killed by Ahsoka. I assume the three mothers will be in tow (with or without Elsbeth). It’s pretty apparent that those boxes that Thrawn was loading onto his ship are Nightsister (or Nightbrother) remains. This will be another problem for the New Republic to deal with. They’ll likely rebuild Dathomir while allying themselves with the Imperial Remnants. They’ll also likely show up in Skeleton Crew (pure speculation, but pirates and the undead chasing kids around sounds like a good time). I’m betting on Elsbeth’s survival.
Baylan is absolutely staying behind to chase after whatever greater voice calls to him. They may leave this plot thread open since Ray passed, but I feel like whatever it is he’s after; he’ll ultimately unleash. We won’t find out what it is this season. Maybe the movie? Maybe season two of Ahsoka should it get a second season? I don’t know. Ultimately, it’ll be a problem. It will likely require Ahsoka and all of her little Bokken Jedi (stray cats) to deal with.
Shin will either return to Thrawn with no other options in front of her, or she’ll turn to the light and join Ahsoka and her Bokkens. I imagine she’ll likely work with Thrawn and Elsbeth for a while longer, and they’ll abuse her. She’ll turn to the light inevitably. Clearly, it calls to her.
Now for the heroes… I can see this going one of three ways:
1.) I think this is the least likely options, but they all make it out of Peridea safely… by the skin of their ass. They’ll end the series where they link up with Hera on Lothal, and there will be an emotional “well, we’re fucked, but at least we have each other” moment. I don’t think this is likely because I honestly don’t think Ahsoka thought this through, and I don’t think they have the coordinates to get back without the whales that go to Peridea to die. Which leaves me with two more likely scenarios:
2.) All three heroes (Sabine, Ezra and Ahsoka) are left at the end of the story… stranded on Peridea. With no logical way home, they’ll have to work together to find a way to navigate back on Ahsoka’s shuttle in a later story. An argument can be made that Ezra’s constant banter about “going home” is a twisted foreboding where the narrative swiftly gut punches him and goes, “well actually.” Watching them navigate this new galaxy together in an attempt to get home could be compelling in the event they have actually green-lighted a second season of Ahsoka.
3.) Ezra makes it out in a dramatic fashion on the Chimera trying to stop Thrawn from getting back to the known Galaxy… which basically makes him Thrawn’s captive once more, and Ahsoka and Sabine are left stranded on Peridea… and, honestly, this seems like the most likely scenario. This really raises the stakes in a lot of different ways. First, we have Ezra back home, but not the way he’d planned to be back at all. Second, we have Sabine and Ahsoka trying to figure out a way off Peridea together which will allow for character development on the part of Sabine (she clearly has many lessons to learn as she has basically damned the galaxy over an attachment which we know is a big no-no in the “Star Wars: Lessons” department, and never ends well). It could also open the door for more mystical adventures, and a potential for them to work together to try and stop Baylan from doing whatever it is that he’s doing. We could also just have the two of them trying to navigate back through the unknown galaxy with Huyang which would doubtlessly be pure gold.
Things I don’t think will happen to the heroes (that other fans are hellbent on):
*Ezra dies.
If it were Lucas, and Sabine did what she did… Ezra absolutely would die, but this is Filoni and Disney. Ezra lives.
*Ezra sacrifices himself, and stays behind alone.
I don’t think that this would be a fair option considering that it was Sabine that screwed the Galaxy, and basically made Ezra’s self-imposed exile meaningless. I think he gets back to the known galaxy… either with Thrawn or with Sabine and Ahsoka.
*Sabine sacrifices herself, and stays behind alone.
Sabine is the one that has the lesson in “letting go” and “sacrificing for the greater good” to learn, but I can’t see Ahsoka letting Sabine stay on Peridea alone. Also, Sabine getting left behind would ensure another story would be wasted going back to Peridea again to fetch another lost Comrade… which is lazy and lame.
*Ahsoka sacrifices herself, and stays behind alone.
While this could happen, it would be lame and not very narratively fulfilling mainly because Ahsoka jumping into a whale’s mouth to save Sabine was enough of a sacrifice. It is Sabine that needs to learn the lesson, and she’ll learn nothing if she gets to go back to the main galaxy with Ezra and live happily ever after with he and the Ghost Crew while Ahsoka sacrifices herself and stays behind. Also worth noting, the whole premise of the series is this master/ apprentice relationship between Ahsoka and Sabine which has been fractured and should be at least on the mend by the end of the series /season. It seems clear that Filoni’s goal (as well as the way the show has been marketed) here is to make Sabine part of the disaster lineage which will require Sabine and Ahsoka to spend more time with one another. I think if one is left behind, the other will be there too.
*Ahsoka dies.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Ahsoka can’t die. Let’s move on.
*Ahsoka will be saved by the Skeleton Crew.
So, I will start by saying that I don’t know a lot about the Skeleton Crew, but from what I do know, it’s about kids getting lost in the Star Wars Galaxy. They run into Jude Law, and they have to find their way home. I tend to think that they’re going to end up lost in the known galaxy, not Peridea because how TF would they end up there? There’s also been rumors about pirates and Jawas, which once again, are in the known galaxy (and maybe this will finally open the door for a live-action Hondo).
Anyway, there are two big reasons that I don’t think Ahsoka will even show up in Skeleton Crew (and if she does, it’ll only be as a minor cameo). 1.) it’s supposed to be about the kids in the show and their experience, and if Ahsoka shows up in this capacity, then the show immediately becomes about Ahsoka being rescued. Let’s be honest. Ahsoka would absolutely hijack their show, and if you’re trying to build new characters and stories, this isn’t how it’s done. 2.) Dave neither wrote nor directed any Skeleton Crew, and Dave is pretty protective of Ahsoka and her story. I don’t think, at this point, that Dave would let anyone write canon stories about her without direct, credit-worthy involvement. I might be wrong, but look at the track record. I think I’m right.
Anyway. I guess we’ll see.
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gffa · 6 months
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Do you know if the Jedi Temple had a Danger Room-style training facility which included realistic holograms of dangerous scenarios?
Hi! There are two things that come immediately to mind--different continuities, but with as scarce as Jedi Temple worldbuilding is, sometimes we gotta take what we can get where we can get it! 1. The Force Unleased (Legends canon) has a room that sends out training droids to fight in the middle of a large "Padawan Training Chamber". You can watch a walkthrough of this particular mission here (this specific part starts at about 3 minutes in), where there aren't any holograms being used but it's otherwise kinda a Danger Room-style training area.
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2. Obi-Wan & Anakin (Disney canon) has young Anakin training against a droid that he himself layered a hologram of Darth Maul over it in an open training area. Mace and Obi-Wan are surprised by this, Obi-Wan says he knew Anakin was working on something, but not quite this, which seems to imply that the Jedi don't really have Danger Room-style holograms used and this wasn't something they were used to seeing, if it was a surprise when Anakin created one.
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It's always possible that I'm missing something in a novel somewhere or a piece of Legends content I haven't read yet! But generally, what we see of Jedi training areas are focused on more simple sparring together in dojo-style areas (Rebels and Tales of the Jedi) or training remotes defended against with their lightsabers or bokken (wooden swords) for those not ready for lightsabers (Choose Your Destiny: An Obi-Wan & Anakin Adventure) or open air courtyard training (The Clone Wars). So, I would say, no, they don't have a Danger Room-style training area and probably didn't really see it as important to develop one, because they're more about training their connection to the Force, rather than pure physical skills, because they deliberately chose to limit themselves in their physical training and weapons:
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(Star Wars vol. 2 ongoing) Their bigger point of the Jedi's training philosophy was that they wanted to seek peace and forge a deeper connection with the Force, so that's what they'd focus more on, that their martial arts training was the real thing they wanted to focus on. However, the pieces are there for you to create one, if you want it! And this is my view of the Jedi (with evidence for why I think that way, of course) but there's nothing stopping you from saying, well, the Jedi would want to prepare for more dangerous situations.
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