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Good fucking god I try to be normal, you all know I do right? you all get it but the way some people will say 'Galadriel was unlikeable' as if that just makes Rings of Power bad... I-.. your elven superiority worms have absolutely enslaved your mind babe. Yeah. Thats the point. She's supposed to be unlikeable. She's literally doing bad things that most people agree are bad within the story itself, she's regularly telling us that she feels out of control and looks into the camera and tells us the exact reasons why. Like am I insane, am I asking too much, do I need to do introspection here, 'this character I completely erroneously believe must be perfect at all times has been made unlikeable, hah checkmate RoP' I am going to scream. I'm getting out my picture book for 4 year olds; 📖🤓 well you see in order for a story to have conflict and 'plot' often the main character is given motives and burdens that drive them to actions and behaviours others might deem controversial, creating the beginning of a character arc, do you know what a character arc is? Can you say 'Character Arc'? It's that thing Galadriel tells us she had in LotR where she struggled with her desire for control that we see her finally overcome after she rejects the ring, gee! I wonder what Galadriel might have been like at the beginning of that character arc... (gasp) you don't think! the RoP show writers also had that thought...? :0c
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I must state for the record that I am STILL in no way acclimated to people thirsting bloody murder over High-King of Gondor and Arnor Elendil, literal sainted founding monarch of the Dunadain in middle-earth, guy so holy his bones are kept sacred and secret for 3 millenia and beyond after his death, Arda’s version of Noah as in Tolkien verbatim called him a Noachian figure- do you know how important this guys fucking bones are? You’re all just out here calling him daddy or whatever the fuck- read the discourse between him and Herendil in the Lost Road and reacquaint yourselves with how catholic this man is before doing anything rash! Thirst responsibly!!! At least know what you’re doing to me- the Dunadain all but worship this guy!! If Aragorn knew people were calling Elendil a Dilf he’d literally bleed out of every orifice and die and I’m not saying I don’t want that to happen but I just want everyone to know that’s what they’re doing!!!!
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The dwarven doorward to Khazad-Dum when fucking Elrond walks up to their gates, bold as anything, as though he should be let back in with open arms and the delighted winding of rams horns when they KNOW what he did to THEIR BELOVED PRINCE
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Elrond says Durin is 'like a brother to him' and one assumes during their friendship Durin considered him the same and it feels as though there are dwarven cultural expectations that come with that position that Elrond simply did not get.
But there's also some kind of psychology to analyse with Elrond calling Durin 'his brother' and then 'discarding' him... just like Elros d- (piano falls on me)
I want to flash freeze Elrond's brain at the very moment he heard Durin, a man he called his brother, say that he 'discarded' him, and then I want to dissect it, I want to know what was going on in there at that precise moment cus he’s thinking some mcfucking thoughts right here;
“oh no that’s the trauma I’m sensitive about”
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No but seriously though ‘I lived a life in that time, a life you missed’ it still hits! I’m unbearably invested in all the emotions drawn up within that conversation, the way Elrond is just... young! And Durin’s maturity has outpaced him, his life has outpaced him and Elrond just didn’t think about it properly, too invested in other projects and exciting changes within his own life. Letting his enthusiasm overtake his empathy and his thought for his friends!!! It’s so good, I really do love it.
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Okay listen... RoP Galadriel portrayal actually elevated to a substantially excellent adaptation in my eyes. Like she’s such a massive hassle of a character whose major arc is both commonly misunderstood by fandom whilst having this utterly unwieldy reputation which is a DIRECT result of the fact that Tolkien never figured out what to do with her. He wanted her to be so powerful and perfect and beautiful and the best ever and good but also! She’s power hungry and self righteous and prideful enough to even defy the Valar and not return to Valinor AND she hates Feanor but doesn’t get how similar they are aND THEN she doesn’t even do anything with all of this, she is fundamentally impotent in most of the things that happen in Arda and seems complacent in the whole ring fiasco because of the NOTHING she does to combat it.
So? How do you adapt all that chafe into a character that’s likeable for television? LIKE THIS! Like they’ve kept most of it! She’s powerful! Loved! Everyone who doesn’t know her personally thinks she’s amazing! But then those who do, know her to be self righteous, incapable of seeing her own faults, erratic and reckless. And she hates Sauron so much, he is her mortal enemy she defies the Valar just because of how much she wants him dead, and cannot begin to see their similarities (Feanor traded for Saubrand.)
And now, as guilt and self doubt finally hit her in this tidal wave of blame, she finally begins to question herself and set out on the path that will eventually see her content to ‘diminish’ and return to the west. But it ALSO gives her a reason to doubt her own convictions where Sauron as Annatar is concerned AND be far more cautious in exerting her force on various situations down the road. Like eventually she will find Celeborn and they will see that they have to step back and just deal with these traumas (because they HAVEN’T been up until now in the show, Galadriel has been an active participant in Arda’s defense, it will be a choice for a different life in Lothlorien rather than just a continual habit of isolationism and callousness for the rest of middle earth as it feels in canon).
Like!! That’s good! They’ve put thought into how to adapt her base arc and characteristics whilst giving her sympathetic motives that don’t conflict with it and lend to her eventual end point in LotR. It’s still Galadriel propeganda but it’s not a total change to her whole character (unlike Peej Aragon) and I like it.
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Actually I’m so disappointed in all of you, how is the tongue bite doe-eyed lash fluttering heavy breathing disheveled hair sweaty elrondisinanighty mining tryst between Durin and Elrond not plastered fucking everywhere across this horny ass godforsaken ass webbed site, can you even imagine if bilbo and thorin or frodo and sam had had such a scene??? Napalm on the dash I tell you. ‘dequeering tolkien’ the FUCK- as if Peter Jackson ever gave any of you anything more homoerotic than this goddamn scene, I’m going to go literally out of my mind
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Visual explanation of the Tir Harad situation, and I have to say, they’ve gotten elven attitudes down pretty spot on
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Hey! If your reaction to the RoP showrunners making a statement in solidarity for their non-white cast and fans against the absolute deluge of racist abuse they’ve been receiving.. is to either try and come up with conspiracy theories on how they’re faking that abuse, or indeed! To make it ENTIRELY about you and say ‘UM we good little fans don’t care about THAT stupid Amazon, WE care about the bad canon crimes you did’ that’s an utterly insensitive and thoughtless reaction to have and you should consider how seriously you take the issue of racism within the Tolkien fandom, an issue that has been true for it’s entire existence as a fandom, but has been brought into stark contrast by the show. I do not care if you hate the show, but that is not a comparable struggle to receiving targeted, planned and organised racist abuse. It certainly doesn’t give you a pass to insert your ‘destroying tolkien’ rhetoric into the discussion around that abuse.
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SHAKES YOU ALL ARGH IT WILL MAKE ME INSANE WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU- THAT'S NUMENOR! IT'S ASTONISHINGLY BEAUTIFUL, IT'S LIVED IN, IT HAS MOTIFS AND COLOUR AND ORANGE TREES AND FOODS AND PLAYS AND SEA-WORSHIP AND NIMLOTH IS RIGHT THERE AND MIRIEL IS DRESSED IN LUMINESCENT BLUE SCALED DRESSES AND A NEW HEADDRESS EVERY SCENE AND THE SUN MAKES IT GLOW GOLD IN THE EVENING AND I NEVER, IN A MILLION YEARS, BELIEVED I WOULD EVER GET TO SEE IT ONSCREEN, LET ALONE WITH SUCH DETAIL AND CARE AND THOUGHT, AND YET YOU ALL SAY RINGS OF POWER HAS NOTHING OF WORTH?? IT'S ALL CHEAP- (????) IT'S ALL TERRIBLE IT'S SO MUCH WORSE THAN PJ'S GREY LIFELESS FRIGID SET OF FILMS I- JDKALSDHLAJHSD it's fine... it's cool I'm fine I promise I'll be okay
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Ahh, I’m happy. First episodes of Rings of Power are a few steps above my expectations and I had a really good time watching it, which was all I really wanted to begin with. Numenor hasn’t even arrived onscreen and I’m already pretty invested.
I was actually surprised by how much I liked the Harfoot plotline, I had expected to find it really irritating and extraneous but it was so delightful to watch I was taken in. I think it was Lenny Henry’s influence, his acting was great and i’m really attached to Sadoc already. I’m STILL not sold on old meteorman Gandalf, mainly because I don’t want to see fuckin Gandalf, but also because he DOES feel very extraneous to the plot they’re driving towards. But the scenes with him are still well acted and seeing how big he is in comparison to Nori is endearing too. Liked being able to decipher the Quenya words for blessed and heat in there, which I assume was him trying to explain stars.
Oh it’s so humiliating... I do like Lindon 😔 they are using the set really well and the shots are sumptuous and filled with interesting detail. Also good GOD I love elf politics, I love incredibly elevated elven speech that’s just so elaborate that they sound like they’re in a Shakespearean play at all times. (some of the proverbs are a little over the top but still). Yes they SHOULD sound that ridiculous. I am also very much enjoying Elrond’s character and the way they have interpreted his ‘Herald’ position in Gil-Galad’s court. Speech writer and little busy body to be sent to solve problems. I think the promos really did a disservice in calling him ‘politically ambitious’. It’s technically true but on it’s own it doesn’t accurately describe his motives, he’s being invested in his people and wanting to help. He’s a young but very noble elf and full of optimism and love for all things! He’s excited to be of use! Maybe a little too invested! Hah.
Celebrimbor also I like so much, he’s got this 1920′s dandy vibe, he certainly feels like a jewelsmith to me. His mannerisms are so endearing and sharp, and when he speaks about the things he’s passionate about the actor actually manages to get this feeling of... a glint in his eye? Like he’s generating his own energy talking about it, very autistic of him, I love it. And I especially appreciate this much more emotive and engaged portrayal after the disastrous Shadow of Wardor nonsense. I respect them going for the precise opposite character. He even fucking cares about people beyond elves! Cares about middle-earth in fact! Oh and also! With his excitable dialogue surrounding dwarves, I have been given new hope that we WILL be seeing Narvi in later seasons. Indeed, these two episodes have really solidified in my mind what they’ve done to the timeline. It’s ALL contracted, including a lot of the aspects of characters we expect, their development has been reclaimed for the show to walk us through. We’ll see how that plays out as the years go by but I can see the logic of doing it that way.
THE DWARVES! Oh my days the dwarves. Every dwarf scene was so gorgeous and Durin’s actor has a way of settling his body into the costume that makes him feel heavy, durable and powerful. I’ve really gone on a 180 about his design. Even this rock breaking contest, which always felt really silly to me, actually is implemented in a way that I really enjoy. Disa is just... I can’t stop thinking about her, Sophia Nomvete matches Durin’s energy so perfectly and the way she uses her eyes is simply entrancing. I just want to watch them all the time. I also really loved the cameo of a bust of the dragon helm of dor lomin being paraded around by Durin’s children. I hope we get more of them too, can’t see enough dwarf children. The idea Durin just has replica heads lying around? Did he make them? Is it a hobby? I’m delighted.
But I can’t talk about Durin without mentioning his and Elrond’s relationship. A while back I commented on twitter that the way the promo material discussed it, it sounded like Durin was Elrond’s jilted lover and I joked about the idea that Elrond had just... forgotten about how time passes for Durin, causing Durin to feel entirely abandoned and to move on and get married..... WELL! don’t I feel like Apollo struck me with the gift of prophecy. The emotion within the elevator scene alone... the genuine pain in Durin’s voice, the heartbreak on Elrond’s face as he hears it! I lived a life in that time, a life you missed! I was surprised the show was able to drag out real feelings from me this early on. The way Disa is trying to heal this rift between them too. I’m so fond of all of them and I now even more cannot wait for the Elrond/Durin/Disa polycule fanfic. What twists and turns of fate.
The Southlands gave me slurs for elves so I will be forever grateful to them, although I was looking for something a little more imaginative than pointies. Would have liked something derogatory ABOUT immortality. And damn! We’re really going for racist elves! Love it honestly! I’m pretty shocked that they aren’t veering away from the textual ‘blood will out’ narratives. Elves really be inventing Faramir’s Darkmen/Middlemen/highmen paradigm as we speak. I also love mean elves, I love watching elves be snappy at each other, in general I love the expansion of what it means to be an elf outside of the heroic nobility we’ve only seen up until now. It’s a great elf portrayal! I love the mention of artificers by Arondir, elves usually expecting their bodies to heal on their own, but needing elf therapy to tend to much more fragile souls. As for Arondir and Bronwyn themselves? They are sweet and I do like the way they put their relationship into a historical context, but I want to see more of them enjoying each other’s company. Certainly I like Arondir and Bronwyn as characters on their own but I want to get to know them better.
I think the MAJOR issue I have with this show at the moment is definitely how thick it feels. All the plot threads are good and I can see how they are all going to tie into one another, I can even see how the entire arch will feed into the eventual Akallabeth, but it’s SO MUCH to get through. I’m feeling nervous about there being only 6 episodes left in season 1. I wanted more breathing room between major plot points and whilst I was surprised by the amount of character I was able to glean from such short scenes, I was still left wanting more time to explore the more complex aspects of each of the situations.
I think the southlands suffered from this the most. You are left unsure what to think about morgoth worship, whether it’s active in the village, are the elves right��to hold them hostage like this or is it because of their actions that they are turning back to those dark ways? It’s definitely an uncomfortable aspect to work through and I just felt it needed more time and care than it’s gotten at the moment. And it means that, despite how much I like it, I actually still feel like the Harfoot storyline was a thread too far. I would like to know about entwives and such, but I just don’t think the show has the time.
STILL annoyed about Durin III and Durin IV existing alongside each other. I would like to know how they’ll explain it or if they even will, but for now it’s a niggle that I can’t quite let go of.
I’m not sure how to feel about the whole Valinor thing, because on the one hand... religious overtures are DEFINITELY the right vibe for it, the more uncomfortable the better, there’s even a slightly offkey singer amongst the choir in the soundtrack for Valinor, and an ominous scary part to the music too, but it’s still... A LOT. I suppose it also enabled them to not show Valinor again and so forth. And honestly I am intrigued by the treatment of returning to Valinor being a reward for exemplary service, it’s kind of inline with canon and creates to me a very strange and intriguing dynamic. BUT... Valinor is so hard to get right, we’ll see if it comes up again.
I think that’s all I have to say! All in all, as I said, the show was fun and it was absolutely what I was looking for after House of the Dragons reminded me why I fell off of Game of Thrones in the first place. I would just like a little universal meta morality in my fantasy shows.
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Okay... listen, hear me out... is Rings of Power really ‘de-queering’ or more ‘cishet normative’ than the text? Like I keep seeing these takes from people and it honestly baffles me like yes... the short haired male elves and the beardless dwarf women are some kind of GNC loss in comparison to other adaptations (for the elf hair anyway, not like we’ve ever had dwarf women on screen before) but like... are you going to tell me that Elrond and Durin’s relationship feels entirely heterosexual? That Celebrimbor’s whole shit feels entirely cis? That his remembering of Earendil sounds entirely platonic? That Poppy and Nori’s relationship has no interpretability into queerness? That whatever Isildur and Valandil have going on has no interpretability into queerness? That Miriel grabbing Galadriel’s face had no undertones to it? That Gil-Galad’s manner and dress and unmarried status is something no queer person can find meaning in? That those three evil wraith women weren’t visually queer coded? Yeah they were really made for the straight male gaze for sure.
Like we have to be clear, the text only ever has queer interpretability, sometimes it seems very intended, but it is never stated unequivocally and during this specific era? Where is all this queerness that we’ve apparently lost from the text? Because Sauron is seducing Galadriel as well as Celebrimbor? Because Sauron isn’t a twink like everyone believes he should be? Sorry, I’m not going to lie, I far prefer the queer subtext be given to characters other than Sauron. Of course queer coded villains have their place in queer culture and Sauron has always been fandom interpreted this way which is fine and good, but I don’t think that means it’s unreasonable to not interpret him exactly as he is fandom-imagined, especially when there is so much other subtext around. And even then, is Charlie Vickers playing this straight? Alright, he has stubble and a slight northern accent, does that make queerness impossible to interpret within him? When he changes his body language on the fly from all masc to being all coy to being all languid and touchy?
God forbid anyone say I am saying RoP is a queer friendly show, all I’m really saying is it has just as much queer-interpretability as the original text did and I suppose... jasdhkjasd I suppose! I just have never in my life expected any adaptation of Tolkien to even acknowledge queerness, let alone portray it within it’s characters (which is why the lesbian dwarves in Lord of the Rings Online are still so astounding and delightful for me to think about) so I’m not sure what anyone else was expecting. The show is actually far less straight than I thought it would be, if I’m being honest.
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Gil-Galad voice: LOOK ME IN THE EYES GALADRIEL.. 👁👁 Our days of war. ARE. OVER!
Galadriel: (bitch)
Gil-Galad: (bitch)
Elrond: Come on guys I didn't write that.
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It’s actually so funny, Rings of Power has PJ!Aragorn’d Galadriel. Albeit to a somewhat lesser extent.
They were like RIGHT! Galadriel is our main character but her power hungry colonising motives are fundamentally unlikeable so we have to figure out a different reason for her staying than just ‘I want to rule over people’. I’ve got it! She’s traumatised by the death of her brother, whom she looked too as a guiding force in her life, and also by many centuries of war we’ve decided to have her participate in.
And honestly, it’s a really good characterisation. I especially like the way they went with her refusal to return, she doesn’t think she’s not worthy of returning, or at least not in the simple way I had assumed. She has PTSD! And she is utterly afraid of going to a place that is all peace and blessedness and joy and still being unable to forget, still having to carry all that happened with her. She doesn’t want to live in peace when there is a war going on inside her still, placing her in a kind of isolation and loneliness that has no other origin but herself. It’s both a really complex emotional layout, whilst being relatable AND very applicable to elven psyche. Like fuck! I almost like this version of her.
And it’s not as though they’ve discarded her vaulted sense of self importance, nobility or pride. It’s true, she isn’t really doing any of this for the good of Middle-earth. She wants to kill Sauron for vengeance, for an end, for what she perceives as a solution to her inner turmoil. She remains sharp, regal and convinced of her own rightness in every situation, and everyone fucking hates her for it! It’s so funny, they literally want to get rid of her, mood!
In the end, it is a characterisation that fits into her character by the time we arrive at LotR.
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Still fascinatedly watching the slow churning of RoP’s effect on the general (and already unwieldingly complex) tolkien fandom. We’re currently at the stage in the proceedings where RoP itself has it’s own fandom that is blurring the boundaries between itself and the Tolkien fandom but isn’t quite WITHIN it just yet. However as we continue to see more conflicts along that border such as the ‘Sauron is hot??’ vs the ‘Oh my god Sauron’s always been hot’ fight and the reactionary uptick of ‘how dare you ship Galadriel with other people she has a husband’ discourse from the very traditionalist side of the fandom, those boundaries will begin to breakdown in what I believe will be a most spectacular fashion. Can’t wait for the ‘water’ (rop fandom) to reach the ‘reactor core’ (horny silm fandom) and explode out into a wave of absolutely batshit discourse, both dug up from the ancient past AND entirely new material made up just for the show itself. Rubbing my hands together in gleeful excitement about it.
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FINALLY I can return to Tumblr and I just want to say to all my fans I love being right and also sexy and cool with a huge brain and correct opinions and also the biggest penis, in short;
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