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sea-owl · 2 years
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Festivia my beloved you deserved better writing.
I would say I want a show on Festivia and her rise to the throne. I would say I want them to focus on the political consequences Festivia would have to bare due to Eclipsa's actions. I would say I want to see how the infamous party queen not only housed her entire kingdom but also gained their trust during a time the kingdom would be against the Butterflys. I would say I want to see Grunkle Justhin's influence on the young Festivia and how it mixes or contradicts with the Magical Commissions. I would say I want to see potential with Festivia and light magic. I would say all of that but I don't trust the writers not to screw Festivia over again.
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festivefraud · 4 years
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Chapter 5: Stages of Grief
Summary:
Festivia struggles with her feelings about her mother in the wake of her father’s death
Notes; this is entirely from Festivia's perspective and processed with the information she was given. Thus this isn't as kind as I would usually be to Eclipsa and Globgor, and comes off as very insensitive to the reality Tivia doesn't know
EDIT: this doesn’t reflect on any verses except main and ghost btw!
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Every Single Star vs. the Forces of Evil episode in one sentence or less
I’ll probably post a more in depth-review later this week, as I have opinions literally no one wants to hear but I will proclaim anyway, and then I’ll probably also due a revision of my ‘Past Queens Connection to Star’ post from way back in season 2. Cause that needs an update.
Anyway, enjoy!
Star Comes to Earth: Princess Cinnamon Roll that Could Kill you comes to earth and meets Misunderstood Safe Kid.
Party With a Pony: Spoopy Wardens hunt for the glitter pony while Star gets ice for Marco’s sweaty back.
Matchmaker: In which we learn it was probably a bad idea to give Star the wand in the first place.
School Spirit: Star misunderstands football and Marco tries to get Ferguson to blow his whistle not in that way.
Monster Arm: “Not my bowels! I love my bowels!”
The Other Exchange Student: Star is jealous of the meatball man from Bakersfieldville.
Cheer Up Star: “It’s supposed to be ironic!”
Quest Buy: Very accurate depiction of what it is like to work in retail.
Diaz Family Vacation: Both Marco and Star see new sides of their dads but that’s not necessarily a good thing
Brittney’s Party: Star and Marco party on a bus that Ludo hijacks
Mewberty: Star gets horny and snares boys in her web but not in that way
Pixtopia: Marco messed up and Alfonso marries Ferguson’s rebound
Lobster Claws: “… You can’t eat children.” “Really? Not even the annoying ones?”
Sleep Spell: “Camera Phooone!”
Blood Moon Ball: We’re suppose to ship them now, right?
Fortune Cookies: Love is never the answer kids
Freeze Day: Father Time offers Star and Marco some mud before riding away on his wheel-mobile pulled by giant time-hamsters I am not making this up.
Royal Pain: King Santa Claus destroy mini-golf
St. Olga’s Reform School for Wayward Princesses: Princess Prison sure is a nightma–OH MY GOD ARE THOSE CLUBS?!
Mewnipendence Day: No wonder monsters hate Mewmans so much.
The Banagic Wand: Star still doesn’t get Earth and like all of us, Marco is always hungry.
Interdemensional Field Trip: Miss Skullnick fears the “Big Change” while Marco sends Jackie cat memes
Marco Grows a Beard: Ludo is out, Toffee is in, and Marco will probbaly be terrified of beards forever
Storm the Castle: “SURPRISE!”
My New Wand!: DIP DOOOWN
Ludo in the Wild: Wait, since when did Ludo become badass?
Mr. Candle Cares: “Star and I have recently become smooch buddies… On the lips.”
Red Belt: Marco searches for a meaning in life and Star searches for hammer.
Star on Wheels: *epic remix of Marco saying Star is in trouble*
Fetch: Marco can’t open juice and Star runs away from her problems and sending thank you cards
Star vs. Echo Creek: Star gets high and destroys a police car
Wand to Wand: Both Ludo and Star are terrible at magic also major ship tease
Starstruck: Star and her idol Sailor Super Saiyan destroy a park and Marco is 100002% done with this shit
Camping Trip: King Butterfly has a mid-life crisis and tries to control an eagle
Starsitting: They’re gonna be great parents some day.
On the Job: Buff Dad is best dad and buff babies are adorable
Goblin Dogs: “You might think this line is long, but listen to my goblin song!~”
By the Book: Ludo and Star still suck at magic and Glossaryck is a bigger troll than Alex Hirsch
Game of Flags: And I thought my family was dysfunctional...
Girls’ Day Out: Janna is back and is still awesome btw
Sleepover: “TRUTH! STAR HAS A CRUSH ON MA–” *cue fandom freakout*
Gift of the Card: R.I.P.  Rasticore Chaosus Disastorvayne… He couldn’ get his fucking chainsaw to work
Friendenemies: Star becomes one with Christmas tree while Tom and Marco go on a date and sing a romantic pop ballad.
Is Mystery: Meatfork is apparently a family name and Ludo is really starting to freak me out tbh
Hungry Larry: “He’s still hungry…”
Spider with a Top Hat: He tries and he is awesome and that’s all that matters
Into the Wand: SPAAAAADESS!!!
Pizza Thing: Marco is OCD about mushroom and Pony Head buys skinny jeans
Page Turner: Moon, how did you miss Toffee in the orb he was right there!
Naysaya: Marco is a mood in this episode
Bon Bon the Birthday Clown: Honestly my favorite episode overall
Raid the Cave: Glossaryck is the true neutral asshole.
Trickstar: Weird Al is a treasure and I’ll mes up anyone who makes Marco cry!
Baby: Aw, look at the little deadly baby, I love her!
Running With Scissors: Marco gets a new edition to his shipping harem and she is so cute!
Mathmagic: Why did the chicken cross the road?
The Bounce Lounge: Marco is definitely the mom friend.
Crystal Clear: The Chancellor guy is amazing and Rhombulus just needs a hug and wAS THAT ECLIPSA IN THE BACKGROUND?
The Hard Way: “SURPRISE!” 2.0
Heinous: Oh, so that’s how Marco got all that money.
All Belts Are Off: This is the negative side of “Pro-tag teen hangs out with older adult figure” trope done splendidly
Collateral Damage: Marco how do you not know what a possum is?
Just Friends: I’m fine! *blows up sign to prove just how fine I am*
Face the Music: This song is actually a banger
Star Crushed: Looking back, I’m starting to think the writing peaked at this episode....
BATTLE FOR MEWNI EDITION!!!!!
Return to Mewni: This is… just an exposition filler. Not much else to say….
Moon the Undaunted: B4! B4! B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4!
Book Be Gone: Seriously, did Glossy take trolling lessons from Alex Hirsch this is hilarious!
Marco and the King: This is the  “Pro-tag teen hangs out with older adult figure” done slightly better
Puddle Defender: Aw, look at the little buff babies, they’re getting so big!
King Ludo: The mime stole the show.
Toffee: Yeah, I think the writing peaked somewhere around here...
Scent of Hoodie: Huh, so Ponyhead can be written as likeable, who would’ve thought?
Rest in Pudding: The colors are not doing the censors any favor here, huh?
Club Snubbed: I literally yelled “Phrasing!” whenever they dropped the title
Stranger Danger: Is she the new antagonist of the series? I can’t tell
Demoncism: Tom is a wonderful baby boy and Ponyhead is written as likeable, part 2!
Sophmore Slump: *sobbing* Jackie deserved better, dang it!
Lint Catcher: I’m starting to wonder if there is any competant authority figure in Mewni
Trial by Squire: I think the writers were all like” You think these guys will ship anyone with Marco?” and decided to test that theory.
Princess Turdina: I got more lore out of this episode than I thought I would.
Starfari: Welp, she makes me uncomfortable.
Sweet Dreams: *Sailor Moon-ing intensifies*
Lava Lake Beack: Proof that this fandom will ship anyone with Marco at the slightest inclanation
Death Peck: Rich Pigeon is my new favorite birb and Ponyhead is written as likeable for the third time
Ponymonium: Well, it was nice while it lasted.
Night Life: The writers made so many new ships they had to get rid of an old one!
Deep Dive: “Chicken butt”
Monster Bash: Well, that explains the cheekmarks.
Stump Day: I think they just made an episode based around a picture from that bookcover.
Holiday Special: *insert every cheesy Christmas/Holiday episode trope here*
The Bog Beast of Boggabah: The title is fun to say and the episode is average at best.
Total Eclipsa the Moon: Seriously, I’m supposed to think she’s an ultimate villain.
Butterfly Trap: In which we are all Sean, don’t lie we were all him at the end
Ludo, Where Art Thou?: Dennis is best brother, hands down.
Is Another Mystery: *sniff* I got more emotional over this episode than anyone else did and I’m not sure how I feel about that
Marco Jr.: I… I just… Why? What’s the point?
Skooled!: Epic advertisment fakeout combined with wonderful character development and lore with a shock ending makes a 8/10 episode.
Booth Buddies: Old Man McGucket ships Starco, proceed to react accordingly
Bam Ui Pati!: Ponyhead is kinda likeable in this episod–nevermind she’s back.
Tough Love: Oh man, it’s happening! It’s happening guys here we go!
Divide: We are going to war everybody–And they’re all dead. That was quick.
Conquer: They should have paid Alex HIrsch to voice Glossaryck at this point, it’d be more in character for him.
Butterfly Follies: Proof that someone will always complain about politics no matter what.
Escape from the Pie Folk: Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that he kinda resembles Eclipsa more than Festivia?
Moon Remembers: I was expecting a freakout but was pleasantly surprised
Swim Suit: I’m starting to get a bad feeling about Rhombulus
Ransomgram: Why is everyone in this dimesnion hot?!
Lake House Fever: She’s a good mom
Yada Yada Berries: They missed an opportunity to have a Seinfeld actor guest-star, just saying
Down by the River: I’m glad that she can relax
The Ponyhead Show!: And Ponyhead is offically no longer likeable, can someone toss her into an abyss please?
Surviving the Spiderbites: SpiderSlime is canon proceed to react accordingly
Out of Buisness: How did this place go out of buisness???
Kelly's World: Man, they’re really setting these non-Starco ships up to fail, huh?
Curse of the Blood Moon: Pfft, yeah, sure, Starco won’t be canon at all!
Princess Quasar Caterpillar and the Magic Bell: I think Ludo has the most consistent character arc out of the entire show’s history.
Ghost of Butterfly Castle: Moon, Star is your daughter and Star supports Eclipsa, why would you not tell her?
Cornball: This episode has a heartwarming lesson that I hope more people come to realize
Meteora's Lesson: I’ll take any Toffee scenes I can get
The Knight Shift: I honestly don’t remember what happened n this episode
Queen-Napped: Seriously, can someone please dropkick Ponyhead into an abyss?
Junkin' Janna: The JanTom interaction I’ve been waiting for
A Spell with No Name: These types of episodes stopped being charming awhile ago
A Boy and His DC-700XE: I think Tomco has more ground to stand-on then Starco at this point
The Monster and The Queen: Don Panchito voices Globgor! There’s hope for this show yet!
Cornonation: They’re the best couple/parents/anything around!
Doop-Doop: I honestly think Rick just put Morty through some flux-capacitor or something
Britta's Tacos: Hey, remember these people that we suddenly brought back? No? Me neither!
Beach Day: This feels like a Season 1 episode and it’s nice
Gone Baby Gone: I want a TV show aout them now! Disney, please!
Sad Teen Hotline: Mr. Diaz is way to invested in Star’s love life.
Jannanigans: Hello last minute Janna character development!
Mama Star: So that’s how Mewni came to be--and I don’t care anymore
Ready, Aim, Fire!: Let’s get that finale ball rolling people!
The Right Way: Ok, that spell is actually pretty badass.
Here to Help: There, Starco’s finally canon will you guys just shut up now!
Pizza Party: Moon you idiot you ruined everything!
The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse: Toffee was right all along... I think we all knew that in some way
Cleaved: I expect nothing substanial and that’s what I got
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Tag Dump 2.0! (lowercase in tags)
Characters:
Jester Cross (Toffee)
The disgraced (Juno)
The lost cross (Festivia)
The lost princess (Meteora)
The lost chancellor (Corona Cross)
First love (Eclipsa)
First friend (Globgor)
Father of card tricks (Hawking)
Mother of all trades (Marla)
The nightmare queen (Solaria)
Queen of the madhouse (Mina)
Thief in the night (Shastacan)
Force of nature (Brunzetta)
The predecessor (Seth)
Left behind (Rasticore)
Sister in arms (Gadfly)
Something to prove (Coco)
The fortune teller (Celena)
False friend (Comet)
Partner in crime (Moon)
Star crossed (Star)
Not the right one (Marco)
Your soldiers deserve better (Ludo)
My family you tore apart (Magic High Commission)
A most fun rival (Glossaryck)
Too late for apologies (Reynaldo)
NEW Old flames (Hekapoo) NEW
Places:
Home sweet cesspool (Pie Folk)
The roots you won't forget (Septarsis)
Nights in the gutter (Galafamor)
The madhouse (st. Orvilles)
A more perfect madhouse (st. Olgas)
Writing/musing:
One Pace From Disgrace (AU)
NEW The next step (chapter update) NEW
Behind the jesters cross (about Toffee)
NEW Another mask to wear (rp) NEW
I owe you this much (answers)
Best laid plans (headcanons)
Playing the long game (musings)
Dress for the occasion (aesthetic)
Disgraced archives (writing snippets)
Civil conversations (dialogue practice)
Cleaved together (post finale)
Will not be silenced (character quotes) NEW
NEW City of inspiration (New Albion) NEW
NEW The Scroll Arc (arc 1) NEW
Disgrace: Eclipsa Arc (old)
Disgrace: Juno Arc (old)
Disgrace: Moon Arc (old)
Disgrace: Star Arc (old)
Miscellaneous (or incomplete):
The fraud (Festivia AU)
Sweet Eclipse (EclipsaFee)
Monster love (Globgor)
Disgrace: part one
Disgrace: part two
Disgrace rp
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sea-owl · 2 years
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It's 2022 and I'm still salty at how Festivia was used for plot convince, and force sympathy on a unsympathetic character. Then the writers throw her away with no resolution to her story or her character. Like what? No finish that arch, especially after you all revealed the queens' ghosts.
Like it almost feels like they fridged Festivia.
Hey you know instead of making Mina the final bad guy you know what y'all could've done? We could have gotten a pissed off Festivia haunting Mewni. No magic affects her because she has no body, she's a magical, pissed off spirit. Plus she was a queen of Mewni, she knows how the magic works.
Festivia hides in the magical realm between her hauntings so it makes it almost impossible to take the fight to her.
When asked for advice Glossaryk just floats like the lazy bum he is. "Hm, but you already know how to destroy magic."
Marco tried to talk to Star. "Is destroying her ghost really the only way to stop her? If Eclipsa and Meteora get a second chance why can't we give one to Festivia?"
Justhin stops them before they can attempt the whispering spell for the first time. Festivia escapes back to the realm of magic. "You mean to tell me you weren't hurt when you found out everything you believed your whole life was a lie? You weren't hurt when you found out you could have had a different life than the one forced upon you? You expect Festivia to be ok learning everything she lived for, all those feelings she had, everything that made her who she was was just politics trying to morph her into their puppet?"
Like the queen she is Star steps back, and she observes Festivia. Star sees the tears that Festivia won't let fall. She sees that while the Magic High Commission and both sets of Butterfly families are bombarded by attacks, everyone else mewman and monster was left alone. She listens to Festivia's wordless screams.
Festivia is angry, but she's also in pain. It's almost fair to say she's devastated.
At midseason Star tracks where Festivia would attack next. With her is Marco and Meteora. Festivia appears, but she only watches the trio in front of her.
"Queen Festivia the Fun, we wish to parley!"
Festivia floats down, table, chairs and a high chair appearing.
For the first time Festivia speaks. "Very well, I was always better at negotiating anyway."
Star, Marco, and Meteora hear the story once more, but this time from a side that has been tricked into silence for too long, Festivia's. At some point Meteora crawled over to Festivia who plopped her into her ghostly lap.
"To start, I never knew about the switch until now. I was sold to the Commission to replace Meteora. They raised me while I believed my parents were eaten by a monster. Grunkle Justhin raised me for a time too, he even taught me the whispering spell." Festivia pauses to take a breath. "We were at war with monsters my whole life, and there was a threat of a coup for all of my childhood. I had surrvied a few assassination attempts. Hekappo took me to travel for my saftey after an assassin got too close when I was twelve. We traveled for two years. Then when I was fourteen they officially crowned me queen, despite the title and wand being in my posession longer than I could remember. The war got worse, I sheltered every citizen. Distracted them with parties so they would be happy. I reestablished trust in the Butterfly family."
Festivia stops herself again. "I wasn't perfect, no queen was, but I didn't ask to be thrown into this life. I never asked for magic or crowns. I just wanted my family and to be happy, but I guess I never got those either."
Moon and Eclipsa interrupt with accusations and an attempted whispering spell. It sends Festivia back into attack mode.
The rest of the season shows various episodes of Star and Meteora helping Festivia heal and in turn she helps heal a part of themselves that this switch affected. Meanwhile Festivia, Moon, and Eclipsa are still at conflict. Star tries to get the two women into talking with Festivia.
Several other of the ghosts show up to talk too. Moon and Eclipsa have heart to hearts with their mothers. Star and Marco have a big discussion with Dirhhennia and Crescenta, who have already sorted out their issues with their mother in the ghostly plane.
We see Moon and Eclipsa slowly get conflicting thoughts. They get worse every time Festivia is with their daughters and doesn't attack tthem. They're still set on stopping Festivia via whispering spell.
It all comes to head in the season/show finale in the realm of magic. Mothers vs daughters in the battle over Festivia's fate.
It's here where Festivia speaks to Eclipsa for the first time.
"You know the worst part about this is that I still love you, a complete stranger who wouldn't hesitate to use the whispering spell on me. I still love a lie."
Eclipsa stops, Moon stops. They stop using their magic to hurt, and they start using it to heal.
They talk, they scream, they heal.
"I'm sorry you never got the parents or the childhood you wished for." Eclipsa tries to embrace Festivia, she's surprised when Festivia let's her.
Festivia cries, she cries for that little girl who was given a crown but only wanted a family. She cries for the girl who was only ever told lies. Festivia gets the resolution and closure the writers cheated her out of before. Moon, Eclipsa, Star, and Meteora all are in a better place for it too.
It ends with Festivia reuniting with her own daughters.
(And if we have to destroy the magic then that can be done too with Festivia showing the living Butterflys where the core of the magic is, and then joining the spell.)
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sea-owl · 2 years
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I'm just gonna say it. If you have to throw a character (A) under the bus, doesn't matter how big their role is, to get your audience to sympathize for another character (B) who has activley made horrible decisions to the point where your audience does not like them but YOU favor them then that's bad writing.
To me this is a subcategory of fridging. You find it easier to demonize character A instead of fixing and developing character B. You add a sad backstory for B that includes A being the persecutor. This turns the audience against A and all of a sudden all the bad shit B has done and actively still does with no indication of changing is thrown under the rug. A is now the villain and B is going to get an unearned/unwanted/undeserved HEA. But before A was a generally a good person and these new pieces are not fitting to what we already know about them.
That is bad writing. You added nothing to A's story, just demonized them, even if they didn't actaully do it, to uplift B's story. A deserves better and B deserves to actually go through a redemption, messy parts included.
Quit with the lazy writing your characters deserve more from you.
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sea-owl · 2 years
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I'm back on my Festivia salt train!
We can all agree the pie people reveal was some bullshit right? Like you guys really made her come from thieves and conman trying to say that FESTIVIA, WHO WAS A BABY DURING THE SWITCH AND RAISED ON LIES conned the kingdom. Really? Of all these other magical beings you could have chosen you went with that? Like at this point the writers were just rubbing salt into the wound of what they did to Festivia.
You know what have been more interesting? Make Festivia the daughter of a fae/nymph woman.
It would fit so well to have Festivia be like a changeling daughter of a nymph.
We now have a reason why Festivia was chosen besides being abandoned/sold to the Magical High Commission. She would easily transform into the person she was replacing, or a family member for her to look like. We now know why she resembles Justhin so much, and she would've been able to accept the wand's magic easier because she herself already had some magic through her fairie mother.
Plus her horns can be real!
Also wild, party girl Festivia, with her tall build and strong charisma. With two daughters, one enjoying music and the other enjoying rules that she made. Festivia was definitely part fae.
Then we can also keep Festivia's greek aesthetic with a nymph mother. And if you really want to add to her Dionysus aesthetic she could be the daughter of a maenad.
If anyone is curious the Maenad were Dionysus' female followers of both nymphs and mortals. They commonly known for their role in the play the Bacchae. These women were sexually free and free of social hierarchies. They were said to run wild in the forests preparing and drinking Dionysus' wine. It was said that they were often in an ecstatic intoxication or were simply called mad women and their ceremonies were considered "strange."
Now tone that behavior down for a children's show and we got Festivia. I honestly think having Star see her matriarchal line come from this type of back ground or one closer to fae society and then seeing hints of either type of society in Festivia would have a better impact than what we go with the pie folk. Pie folk felt like they were beating a dead horse, with this it feels like Star can explore a part of herself that's been there since the begining and we could possibly get a better understanding for Festivia.
Like I said anything would be better than the pie folk.
Wait a minute. The fae are also called the fair folk. Pie folk, fair folk, pie folk, fair folk. Excuse me I'm gonna go fight the writers because that's just rude.
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