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#fuck ppl who hate Israel tbh
golbrocklovely · 14 days
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I want to say smth and you always seemed like a person who thinks objectively, so excuse me for a harsh topic :
I am kinda tired of stans on Twitter especially expecting their favs to speak about political issues and calling them various names whenever they don’t do it. I acknowledge and agree that big names like f.e Taylor Swift , Ariana, Kim K ( fuck her) or even Snc using their platforms to spread awareness is very much helpful and as much as i wish they could do it, i also understand why a lot of famous names do not want to involve themselves in political issues and tbh it’s not their duty to do so. There is no single situation like this that is simple and on top of that there is plenty fake informations , fake charities, fake news surrounding always such political issues. And to clarify i am and always will be supporting freedom of Palestinial , Congo, Sudan or Ukrainian people, because you will never see or hear me supporting killing and massacring innocent people , their lives and their homes. And that is why it also irritates me when i see people on the Internet focusing more who shared how many informations, who did not share at all , instead of actually focusing on seriousness of what is happening on this world currently. Because things are not looking well and other people suffer shouldn’t be used in a way to drag those who just decided to stay silent. Are they right for this? No, but they are not also wrong for it ( ik it sounds weird, but still). I have seen many celebrities getting dragged even when sharing information about at least Palestine. Either it was Israel supporters or Palestine supporters who claimed that they only do it for damage control. I have also seen people loose their jobs for simply showing support to the victims. I do want see more famous people speaking up , especially about Congo and Sudan, since those two countries are not voiced out as much as Palestine and definitely needs help as well, however i will not tolerate using other people death and suffering used as a way to hating and fighting some bigger figures. Say you are disappointed ! Say you wish they could speak up! But you will never achieve anything with hate speech! It can only have opposite result and it was never right in the first place!
❕The only “celebrities” that I understand hate for are the ones that showed support for Israel! ❕
i get what you're saying, and i agree with you for the most part.
first off, there needs to be a distinction between celebs and influencers. bc sure, snc have a good amount of money. but someone like taylor swift, who is basically worth a BILLION… she can do a lot more than snc could. than most influencers could.
i think my main issue with the entire argument of 'celebs and influencers need to use their voice' is that most ppl that complain aren't actually upset. and i'm not talking about just with this situation happening in gaza (or congo, sudan, ukraine), i'm talking about any major political issue. how any fan berating their favorite reads to me is "i stand for X, and you aren't showing that same political belief, even tho we all know X is a good thing. and bc of that, now i'm being told i'm terrible for not immediately tossing you to the curb. so, i need you to say you also stand for X bc otherwise you make us both look bad."
nobody wants to be a fan of someone problematic. but in my personal opinion, not using your voice isn't problematic. for example, i didn't sub to snc for their political takes on ANYTHING. so if they use their voice, cool. if not, whatever. however, compare that to hasan. i watch his content because of his political takes. if he was saying nothing, i would be shocked and upset.
not only that, i'm a full fledge adult with my own mind, thoughts, and feelings. idc what snc have to say. they don't influence me to feel the way i do about palestine, or congo, ukraine, sudan - nothing. i know genocide is bad, and as long as snc aren't celebrating the death of innocent ppl, than i'm gonna continue to be a fan of them.
what you do when you complain about your favorite not using their voice - all it shows me is that you are making an entire issue about you and your comfortability. you don't like looking bad, and you won't feel better until that's fixed. and especially when we are talking about something as serious as a genocide… i need everyone to just stop making it about themselves. ppl are dying. who cares if you like someone problematic? dear god, touch grass.
the second issue i have is reality is - all of this is pointless. these fans are harping on the wrong thing bc it is a lot easier to bitch in taylor swift's dms and maybe get a response for her social media manager than it is to email our politicians and get no response from them. but those are the ppl we need to be upset at. yes, taylor's got a fuck ton of money. most of which she will never be able to use before she dies, so she should be donating it. i'm not denying that. however, she's not in power. she wasn't elected. her donating would help but it wouldn't stop OUR GOVERNMENT from giving bombs to the IDF to kill innocent palestinians.
we need to be angry at our government. we need to call THEM out. they want us to focus on the micro-influencer that isn't doing "the right thing" rather than the politicians who take our tax dollars and relish in being rich and protected until they croak while being funded by the institutions that allow atrocities like this to happen. FOCUS on what actually matters. do what you can do, and keep pushing for what's right.
free palestine, free congo, free sudan, free ukraine, and fuck anyone that thinks differently. fuck oppressors, may you never know peace.
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locklylemybeloved · 5 months
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are you still a swiftie?
complicated answer tbh
i am very much still a taylor swift listener. i love her music. i connect to a lot of it. certain parts of the fandom are still AMAZING and genuinely some of the loveliest, sweetest, most creative and kindest people i've met on here.
that being said. there are a lot of really toxic swifties. i tried to stay away from them even as a hardcore diehard swiftie but its impossible. a lot of the fandom feels so toxic and hard to be in because it feels so high maintenance. so much is expected of you. i don't like that.
also. as for taylor herself. i have a lot of love and awe for her in some aspects. what she's created musically and culturally is incredible. the eras tour was truly the best performance i've ever been lucky enough to see live. she is a musical powerhouse and i think her ability to transcend a lot of misogyny and shitty people -- especially since she got big around the 2010s -- provides a lot of hope and inspiration for a lot of people (including me!!)
that being said she is still a privileged white person. this is not something she can change. that is ok. white ppl do not suck because they are white. the problem is when things like white girl feminism, performative activism, and blatant hypocrisy come up.
especially having a political activism era, going completely silent and then profiting off of that is not ok to me. i get that celebrities are not the golden standard for political activism, but if u are going to claim to be an activist. be an activist. yes, silent support is sometimes necessary (donations or whatever. i get its probably annoying to be questioned whether or not you do something. "oh she's doing too much" "oh she's not doing enough") but again. if you are going to claim activism and draw in a larger crowd and have ppl defend you because of that, you have to actually act on your words. performative activism just. it really annoys me.
furthermore, certain things she can't help and i get that. if her boyfriend is on the cheifs she's allowed to support him. but idk the cheifs supporting israel is really shitty. sure she's allowed to date whomever she wants but as a human being everyone has the responsibility to be a good person especially if you live in the public eye. matty healy was genuinely a terrible person, whether she dated him or not, and associating and openly supporting those kinds of people is never ok.
not even mentioning the fact that she claims to really really care about her fans but didn't say anything about pride until pride month, even when her trans fans were yknow being fucking harassed at her shows for their bathroom choice.
anyways there's a lot to unpack, and i don't think anything is every truly black and white. i'm absolutely not saying she's a terrible person. she is also not the most amazing person to ever live. (and i get that's ok i mean i sure as hell am not perfect and my grammy count is 0)
(also i think ppl who hate taylor swift for no other reason than they hate pop music should go fuck themselves. or just yk 'cause she's mainstream or whatever. there's a difference between being able to critique her/not liking her music so just living ur life and attacking and bringing her down)
also she's so fucking gorgeous like yeah i'll admit it she's azshfjwe,zthgfiueak,jsmngtuflhkajwem,zsf
also, i have just in general become way less obsessed with her personal life bcs genuinely i don't care. and that's ok. travis kelce does not interest me (but if he does interest you that's also ok!!! you're allowed to care about whatever you want as long as you do not invade anyone's privacy or treat anyone without basic human respect unless they don't deserve it)
so to answer your question fully: it's complicated :)
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moonspads · 6 years
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princessnijireiki · 5 years
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I keep seeing posts + tweets about this & it's working my nerves, so I'll say my 2¢…
ppl on here are mad @ chris evans for being in "red sea diving resort" on netflix, but did not remotely have the same energy for when oscar isaac played an idf agent, so tbh I'm really not trying to hear shit abt "playing an israeli character/soldier/spy is inherently zionist & everybody should #cancel the actors."
not that I care abt this movie especially, I haven't watched it & probably won't ever bc a review I read trashed the hell out of it lmao, but y'all don't get to have it both ways… "excusing" bs y'all invented on the spot for horniness exceptions, giving pro-israel & pro jewish self-governance narratives a "pass" if and only if they're talking abt nazis like it's fucking woke™️ bingo (not that post-war politics aren't far more complicated irl when you talk abt jewish statehood and the israeli-palestinian conflict, but it's just Real Inch Resting what people support in what contexts 🤔), but then in literally Any Other Story w. these israeli characters, incl historically factual ones or ones not even about zionist politics to begin with, it's supposed to be damning for the actors or directors or whoever the visible target of the moment is to blame a whole film on…
and it's also just v funny to me what "causes" people tend to triumph vs ignore, and to what end (not palestine as a cause in and of itself but like— What Is The Goal Here, yk?), esp bc literally the last decade-plus of chris evans's superhero filmography are probably more overtly imperialist than this netflix original movie, and then also like… it just smacks again of the weird blood libel against gal gadot & how ppl on this site are still v vocally divided about her, as if sharing vs not sharing pictures of wonder woman is a political alignment (or moral alignment) compass— even for ppl who've paid to watch her movies, not sharing .gifs is considered an ethical stance one can take… it's absurd & it's wild & it keeps repeating itself…
when also with stuff like "red sea diving resort," what is the problem specifically, yk? is it that ppl don't like that it's israeli-flavored white savior heroism? does the film actually contain propaganda, or is it actually gonna have any kind of social impact, or would you just hate it for existing regardless? what are you personally doing for palestine beyond getting pissed at whiteboy actors who aren't even israeli? would this energy be better served doing literally anything else besides bitching at or about tumblr users for the "crime" of… sharing gifs of a popular white actor fresh off of a multibillion dollar set of franchises, who lots of ppl are horny for to begin with, bc he did a nude scene… where regardless of the content of the film itself, those same ppl might never engage with it beyond ogling this shirtless dude?
I'm not saying you can't hate it for whatever your personal reasons are, but it comes off like a lot of holier than thou bullshit from ppl reaching for a way to make this issue deeper than it is when it becomes an excuse to harass others— bc ultimately some dumbass netflix movie is not in any material way contributing to the oppression or suppression of the palestinian people, since all it is is a poorly executed one-dimensional drama ft chris evans in a lacefront toupee about events ~40 years ago, that's not hurting anybody.
blacklist it & move the fuck on.
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candykeyblade · 7 years
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Ok if I'm being honest, I'm very unsettled by the intense leftist hatred and revulsion from anything Israeli. Like to the point where Y'all literally don't want to support anything even tangentially connected... Like um. The US is also imperialist as fuck, and incredibly violent. Kills way more civilians than Israel could ever dream of doing tbh. On and off our own soil. Canada has a missing Native Women problem that's being swept under the rug. But y'all love to romanticize Obama and Canada. Like I could make a very long list of countries doing shit-ass horrible things that y'all don't be boycotting. But for some reason when it comes to Israel, if someone who owns a candy store from eats matzoh from Israel once a year, then you gotta start a whole campaign boycotting them...? Like I'm not exaggerating I seen that "don't buy this makeup" list. Like am I the only person who thinks this is rediculous? I'm not defending the actions of Israel, the state. But if you can live in America or England or France or Spain or wherever and not be directly responsible for all the suffering that your bullshit colonizing country has caused... Even when you are directly benefiting from it. Like I KNOW there are Americans flipping over Wonder Woman who got friends in the military, family who was in the military, etc, in their imperial ass war-crime bullshit country. We all do. Never even mind all of the media we consume by people who have served, who have all different feelings about it. In fact most of us leftists who haven't served respect them to at least some degree, because we know we don't understand what they been through, and because we know that ppls reasons for joining are usually "I want to go to college" or "I want job security" or "I got folks to support" and not "I want to become an instrument of violence for an imperial war machine" Like it just feels so hypocritical and antisemetic to me. Like explain to me why an actress who was in the Israeli military should be completely boycotted by everyone in the world, but we aren't even talking about all the people who been in the US military out there selling stuff and acting and making stories etc. Like! I'm not trying to stop the conversation about Israel! And if you're from Palistine then everything you have to say on it is legit and I have no desire to speak over you. But there's definitely a huge problem with antisemitism in leftist circles over here in "The West" rn and it is really being glossed over. Like, I know that things are fucked up over in Palestine right now. I know Israel is doing horrible things in the name of a "homeland". I honestly want no part of a "homeland" that does to others what we have had done to ourselves for so long. The things being done in that name, my name, are horrifying. And there is a very important discussion to be had there. But I feel like a lot of the shit I see on this site is preformative. And a lot of it feels like scapegoating Jews... Again. And witch hunting Jews... Again. Why is it only Israel I'm expected to boycott in it's entirety? Did you all forget that there are people living there who are yes, benefiting from the violence, just as all of us living on colonized land are... But have nothing to do with it one way ot the other. Like we seem to understand that not everyone in America is directly responsible for the USA's ongoing war crimes and genocide. We seem to understand that in most instances... Except for Israel? Like idk something is really fishy about this whole deal and if someone can explain to me why it's not in a way that isn't inherently antisemetic then I'd be glad to listen. But I feel like either I'm missing a huge piece here or ppl just.. Really hate Jews. And I'm not sure which it is.
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witchofeindor · 7 years
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Do feel like an Israeli citizen? Plus is it dangerous to live there? Greetings from Sweden
Yeah, definitely, I hate many aspects of living here (mostly the mannerless ppl and the culture of ‘I deserve anything!!!’ and the cost of living) and I complain about it a lot, but it’s my home and it’s the only place where I can just be me, and not be tagged as a ‘Jew’ or whatever, just as Leah. And it’s the only place where I feel I belong, so yeah, it’s defo an important bit of my identity. 
Not to mention that despite being rude and mannerless, people here are kind and they genuinely care. 
Just today, for example, I witnessed two different professors from two different classes ask two students who were here alone (their families live abroad and they came here on their own as teens) whether they have anywhere to be during the upcoming holiday (a week long holiday that begins in a week and a half, I think) and like, damn, it’s not high school or smt anymore, it’s fucking university, and it’s not even professors that know said students personally from other classes, they know them solely from that one class but since they know they live here alone, they asked to make sure said students are not alone during the holiday. And like, I don’t think it would have happened in many other places on earth, if it were to happen at all. It feels like one big family and tbh while it has its cons (see rudeness & lack of manners), I love it, mostly. People here are not indifferent in the slightest.
See, our situation is, well, not easy when it comes to security and we face lots of dangers, both from within the country and from outside the country.
That being said, it is where I feel most safe, and not just me - but most Israelis I’ve spoken to. Yes, we face terror and we have experienced more terror acts than all of Europe altogether, but we are used to it and we know how to handle it. 
Like, there’s security everywhere - you can’t enter a mall/a working place/a school/a university/ a bus station, a train station etc. without being checked, which obvs lowers the chances for terror acts.
Not to mention that whenever there is a terror act going on we, as civilians, react, armed (rarely) or unarmed (mostly), before even the police comes. Just during the last terror act, the first person to act was a passing civilian, a tour guide. Or in a different terror attack about a year ago, some terrorist stabbed a civilian in the neck and you know what that civilian did? He just took the knife out of his neck and stabbed the terrorist back ‘so he couldn’t hurt more people’. Or that one time a civilian neutralised a terrorist using his guitar. Or that other time a different civilian neutralised a terrorist using her umbrella. 
So like, while we do face more threats, we know how to handle them? That’s why even when there are casualties, the numbers are way lower than they’d have been in a similar terror attack in Europe, for example.
Like in Europe, at least where I and ppl I’ve talked to have visited, there are no security checks at train stations which is, to me, frightening because a terrorist could just blow himself up there and kill so many ppl without even trying too hard? Like, it’s so scary, how do you guys live like that?
Not to mention that we have a rather chill mentality when it comes to it?
I have recently watched some stand-up vid that talked about it and it was like ‘After the terror acts in Paris last November, ppl wouldn’t leave their houses for two week. And do you know what ppl did in Tel Aviv during the last war? We fucking filmed the rockets falling.’ 
And I can personally confirm, during the last war I got really angry about being bombed at night bc I wanted to sleep and I was basically like ‘wtf Hamas, let us sleep. Murder us tomorrow’.I mean I also cried a lot but it was bc of the fallen, not bc of the rockets ot smt.
So to sum it up, we do face more threats to our security than probably any other Western country, but we also deal with it better so yeah, depending on where you live, you mostly feel safe, even though you know you could theoretically be killed at any given time.
Ok wow, sorry, I got carried away and my answer got too long, sorry.
I think the best summary of our security situation would be as follows:
A terror act is more likely to happen here than in most European countries, for example, but it is also likely to have less casualties, if any.
Greeting from Israel to Sweden
And thank you for your ask :)
Speaking of which, how is it in Sweden? I’ve read it’s not safe for women (highest rape rate in the world) but the ppl from Sweden I’ve talked to say it’s not that bad. Do you feel safe there?
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