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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
"They don't get to do that"
There's a concept I think about every single time a concept of a "higher power" or "superior species" shows up in works and puts themselves as "leaders" or "guardians" of imperfect humanity.
While they may objectively be better, proper leadership requires understanding of those you are trying to lead. What colors their decisions, why they will think in certain ways. However, how would a "perfect" being ever hope to understand imperfect people? How could those born with incredible power understand the normal person? They may have qualifications to lead or make important decisions, but can they actually be fit to lead people they can't understand?
Of course, this could also apply to Mr. Perfect Taro...
mmm <333
But Taro is also imperfect because of his lack of social understanding/awareness. I don't even know if he knows what it means **to** actually be a leader.
So far every time he enters battle he calls it a festival and a contest. Like it's all a fun game, even if there ARE real-world terrible terrible consequences involved in said 'game'
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Which I think is a particularly nice callback to the apartment protest flashback.
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'A fun festival’s happening, Jin'
Tarou didn't understand the nuance of the situation. That these people weren't having fun or celebrating. But instead gathering together in hate because they didn't want him around.
I really like how you highlighted the lack of understanding on both sides. Because essentially that's one of humanities fatal flaws.
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We always like to choose binaries. What we understand, what we don't understand. Right, wrong. Normal, abnormal. But a binary doesn't accurately represent real life.
Momoi is flawed because equivalent exchange is too real. He's good at everything, therefore he must lack in something as well.
I remember learning in Psychology that people who can remember things perfectly, literally never forgetting anything --lack the ability to live a normal life. What people see as 'basic human functioning skills' are the exact things they take critical hits in.
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But this 'lack of understanding' is what hurts those kinds of people the most.
I didn't go to a psychiatrist/seek professional help when I would only be able to sleep about 4 hours a day for a week straight, or when I would then crash and not be able to get out of my bed for an entire month because I didn't realize that was weird.
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I thought everybody got like that.
I never could've thought I had ADHD because I wasn't super hyperactive unless I was in social situations with friends. I thought everyone just got really obsessed about certain things and then procrastinated and panicked. I blamed my 'one-track mind' on being an inherited trait from my mother.
"Guess I'm just spacey"
But like poison this idea of a normalcy I could never quite hit spread through my system like battery acid and choked me till even the idea of breathing without drowning felt like a far-off dream
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My lack of social understanding made me the audience in a play I should be a part of. My sophomore year of high school I took the entire persona of KPOP idol I really liked because of the choking terror I had at the idea of spending another year sitting by myself with my thoughts as everyone else made friends.
When I was a child I lost a library book and my parents yelled at and punished me for it. The next time I got any library books I kept them inside my backpack always, because if I didn't then I'd lose them, and that t e r r i f i e d me
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So seeing Momoi be told he's not normal (to his face) and that 'he needs to understand other people better' is truly a smack in the face.
That's like asking a colorblind person to put together a 3,056 piece rainbow puzzle, and then asking them to explain the nuance of each one of the colors
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,,,,anyways, I really like the way Donbrother's is exploring this concept. Truly there is nothing harder in this world than understanding somebody else.
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Also W O W Hebi Anon spitting fkin PHILOSOPHY yo.
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi anon here with small funfacts for Donbrothers
Oni Sister is the odd one out in the group. In the original story of Momotaro, the Oni was the antagonist. So it makes a lot of sense that she was the last of the team and she's currently the one with the most problems with Taro
The Momotaro Slash's effects were based on the animations of Demon Slayer
Sonoi, Sononi, and Sonoza's monster forms are based on the heroes of older and obscure Tokusatsu heroes:
Sonoi - Choujin Barom 1
Sononi - Seigi no Symbol Condorman
Sonoza - The Kagestar
The model kit seen in the "that's not right" flashback seems to be a 30 Minute Missions kit. Also produced by Bandai and completely separate from other mecha franchises so free cross promotion (they're also really fun, they're basically robot lego so I highly recommend)
Arigachu Hebi anon <333
Yo…
based on DEMON SLAYER???
Yeah I can see that :33.
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It’s interesting that Haruka’s the odd one out in the OG story 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Yeah, that little scene of Taro tossing Haruka aside cemented him in my mind as an asshole
Haruka and Saruhara were nothing but nice and helpful this entire episode. They saw he was basically ill and, completely of their own accord, went to find answers and a solution.
Sure the first time it didn't work properly because Jin is an asshole who withholds critical information (about his SON) for no reason, but it did help. Taro would never have been able to save so many people during that chase if they didn't give him that first round of kibi dango. Then they again go out of their way to do it properly. Even when Kaito ends up bringing one too little, Taro even admits that (somehow, why is never explained and that's a writing pet peeve of mine), Haruka's actions made up for that deficit.
And then he just tosses her aside without even a thank you. For what? For laughs? Haruka has been nothing but helpful and he does that? There is no amount of neurodivergency that can excuse that, that's just the actions of an asshole.
Once you get up to the point where I gave up on Donbrothers I'll give a full write up of why I hate Taro (warning in advance, it actually involves some deep seated traumatic rage)
Time to put on my Momoi-Apologist glasses (LOL)
I should preface this first: Your thoughts are completely valid. I can see why you'd dislike Tarou after he throws Haruka halfway across the yard, rip. Seems like he's just taking her effort for granted and being a huge jerkwad. I just hope y'all Momoi antis can take a few deep breathes and come into my analysis with an open mind. Cause I love discussion.
I'm also prefacing that I'll be quoting from academic material and books as well, so prepare for that. This will probably be unnecessarily long so I'm putting a cut here too
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Me and Nacho actually discussed Momoi quite a bit, and one thing that had continued to stump me was how Momoi would completely change his personality the moment he transformed.
Dude just idk became iNSANE to me. And so I really was like ???
So here's a set of questions I'm going to try and answer and explain.
(1) Why does Momoi's personality change when he becomes Don Momotaro?
(2) Why does he answer everything he's asked?
(3)Why does he hit or disrespect his teammates or attack them in battle when he says he "doesn't hit people"
Let's get into it.
So first:
" And then he just tosses her aside without even a thank you. For what? For laughs? Haruka has been nothing but helpful and he does that? There is no amount of neurodivergency that can excuse that, that's just the actions of an asshole."
Quoting this down here because I disagree. "There is no amount of neurodivergency that can excuse that, that's just the actions of an asshole." I think its really easy to see Momoi's behaviors and label him an a$$hole.
But he acts like that for a reason.
He's on the spectrum.
I’m not equating being on the spectrum with ‘bad’ or ‘ rude behavior. I’m saying Momoi deals and processes and copes in a different way.
(Is this an excuse? No. But I want it to be noted here that his mind fundamentally works differently. ADHD is similar to Autism in a lot of ways, but there are still a lot of differences, and that doesn't account for differences among individuals as well.)
So let's get to it.
(1) Why does his personality change?
(Inserting a conversation I had with Nacho about this. For context, we where discussing episode 7, when Momoi calls them, Haruka and Haiku, his "companions". Nacho told me what word he was saying and why they reacted like that LOL. )
Nacho:
So tomodachi, to me that word insinuates an affection between two people, like high school classmates. Japanese school, you see the same people you're whole life so your bonds with your school friends are just a tiny step down from family
So it might not necessarily be a deep friendship, but it's the most obviously affectionate
Nakama is more about a bond like you're people on a journey. So like, less affection, but more devotion. Like you feel a strong loyalty to someone, but you might not define yourselves as close in any sense of the word
And then Tarou freaking says that they're his お供 (otomo) LOL!!!!
Which is very, Idk, it sounds archaic
It give me a mental image of a rogue vagabond and is 5 sidekicks. In medieval Japan.
Otomo is different than otmodachi. Like it's spelled different too :))
お供 (otomo) is spelled with the kanji for submit/offer/serve/accompany
Which is why it gives this image to me (rogue vagabond). And why it's HILARIOUS that he called them that.
Basically "you're my sidekick companions"
No wonder his friends were like "HUH????" Truly the appropriate reaction.
Ngl, now that the idea was planted, Tarou does remind me of my autistic family members
Idk, maybe fixated is the wrong word but Idk the correct ones. But having a preference for certain speech patterns and not differing from them to incorporate nuance in conversation.
Like Idk all the context, but like for whatever reason, Tarou is attached to talking or referencing or alluding to archaic language. Assuming that Tarou is on the spectrum, he might not be able to really incorporate the nuances of molding himself into the legendary hero he wants to be—hence he adapts old language and this goofy personality bc it comes with the package of being Momotarou.
It'd be like if I thought to myself that I want to mold myself into a Superman-esque persona, but I also put on the blue spandex and wore fake glasses randomly
Those things have nothing to do with what Superman's admirable qualities are, but I'd be unable to take some qualities and leave the other, have to do things in black and white.
Me: Woah. I was wondering why Momoi always acted insane specifically when he transforms. Like he doesn't normally go around WAHAHA'ing
Nacho: Right. I mean that part especially reminds me of my autistic family members LOL. Definitely should read up more about it, but adhering to some sort of predictable character/caricature that they admire, that brings comfort. It's jarring for people not on the spectrum bc we read social cues that tell us some behaviors are odd, but others can't tell that.
Like it's obvious not to randomly laugh like a maniac to us, but it's not obvious to people on the spectrum.
[I ask about why Momoi answers every question he's asked]
Nacho: Pasting this from the American Journal of Medicine,
"Autistic patients commonly demonstrate restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior. For example, as children or adults, autistic individuals may continue to repetitively handle and play with objects such as toy automobiles rather than interacting with other persons. These repetitive actions are referred to as “stimming”—self-stimulating behaviors, usually involving repetitive movements or sounds.""
Nacho: I'm sure we all know this to some extent but you know, using a real source this time LOL
So yeah with this, for people who aren't autistic, change is normal
J: but people with autism need the repetition?
Nacho: Yeah exactly, for autistic people, rigidity is normal, not change .So even people who are neurodivergent and can't pick up social cues, they will naturally try to find the answer.
J: I see, that's why when change is introduced to them, it can tend to cause a lot of stress....right?
Nacho: Right, and from my understanding, the idea that you can change your behavior, that's foreign.
I don't want to assume that there ISN'T any truth to the argument that Tarou is not trying to change. BUT I think it's important to consider how change is something that's only normal to some people.
Like in a more physical manifestation of autism, a kid might do repetitive things like scratching their ear right? Someone might say "why aren't they trying to change?"
Especially when they get older. But the idea that someone would think "man, I should change this thing I'm doing"--that doesn't even register as an option
It's like a tricky multiple choice question
Where you have answers A and B
And then the teacher tells you it should've been C: neither. And you're like "BUT THAT WASN'T AN OPTION"
Again,
I don't think Tarou realizes that avoiding to talk is even an option. It's only A or B
/end of our conversation/
(This was all Nacho's brilliant analysis lmao. I noted when I talked or when J talked. So if I didn't note it specifically, assume Nacho was talking.)
Anyways, this brought me the realization that Momoi's personality changes because he's putting on a character, a 'persona'. He doesn't know how to be the hero "Momotarou" without it.
It's easy to imagine too.
Like Jin named Momoi after the Momotarou fairytale. It would be a fair assumption to think that he would then read him the fairytale or tell him about it?
And so Momoi is essentially doing what the fairytale Momotarou did.
Heroes being pricks isn't a new concept either. A lot of them are portrayed as having a sort of natural "bravado." Like Tony Stark for instance. He's arrogant, a narcissist, AND he's rude. And you can see some of that bravado in Momoi.
NOW! Time to get on quotes from my research.
This topic had me looking into books, and so I read "Uniquely Human" by Barry M. Prizant.
And this gave me the language to analyze Momoi and somewhat hypothesize why he acts the way that he does.
"When a child with extreme sensory sensitivities enters a noisy room and cups his hands over his ears and rocks his body, this pattern of behavior is simultaneously a sign of dysregulation and a coping strategy. You could call it “autistic behavior.” Or you could ask “Why is he doing that?” The answer is twofold: the child is revealing that something is amiss and that he has developed a response to shut out what is causing him anxiety."
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"Whether or not we realize it, all humans employ these rituals and habits to help us regulate ourselves—soothe ourselves, calm our minds and bodies, and help us cope. Perhaps, like many people, you find public speaking unnerving. To calm yourself, you might take a series of deep breaths or pace back and forth while you speak. That’s not exactly the way humans typically breathe or behave in public, but an observer would not judge this as deviant behavior. The person would understand that it’s your way to cope with the stress of the situation and to soothe your nerves so that you can do your best.
When I return home from a day of work, I immediately check the mailbox, then sort the mail, placing bills in one pile, magazines in another, and tossing what I don’t need in the recycling bin. It would take a significant distraction for me to skip that small but important ritual; then I would feel out of sorts on some level until I took care of it. It’s a calming routine; it’s how I come home.
For people with autism, comforting rituals and coping mechanisms come in all varieties: moving in particular ways, speaking in various patterns, carrying familiar items, lining up objects to create predictable and unchanging surroundings. Even proximity to certain people can serve as a regulating strategy. After coming home from a busy school day, Aaron, who was eight, had a habit of placing both palms on a table in front of him and then rhythmically jumping in place. His parents noted that the intensity and duration of his jumping were a good barometer of how stressful his day had been. Just as infants are comforted and soothed by being rocked, and toddlers run in circles to stay awake, we all use movement to modulate our emotional and physiological arousal.
If people with autism feel underaroused, they increase their alertness by spinning, bouncing, or swinging. If they’re overstimulated, they might calm themselves by pacing, snapping their fingers, or staring at a fan.
Ok. Let's take a break from quoting LOL!
I bolded this part because it really stood out to me; things were beginning to make a lot of sense with this knowledge in the back of my mind as I re-examine some of Momoi’s behaviors.
What does Momoi do every time he transforms, or right before he does something crazy? He laughs.
"WAHAHAHA." <-He does this because it helps increase his alertness.
Likewise, in episode 7, why do you think Momoi got out his fan right before he aggravated the MOTW? It's because he was upset at his comrades being attacked and he needed something comforting to focus on, to help him calm down. After he gets it out he starts laughing --> He's ready to be Don Momotarou.
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Tarou needs to "flip on" his Don character when he goes into fighting because it makes having to fight a possibility for him. He's changing the script from "battle" to "play/game".
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Un-transformed he says "I don't hit people" and this is true.
But transformed he does; like in this Haruka example listed by Hebi anon. He does (hit people) because he has to and this helps him cope with that.
Now, so why did he hit Haruka / attack his comrades? >:)
Quote: (Uniquely Human)
Seeking to eliminate behavior without fully understanding its purpose is not only unhelpful; it also shows a lack of respect for the individual. Worse, it can make life more difficult for the person with autism. That was the case for Lucy, an eleven-year-old. Her public school teachers had reported that Lucy, who did not speak, was an extremely aggressive child, prone to unpredictably lunging and clawing at the faces and necks of teachers and therapists. When I spent a morning observing her in my role advising the district, the problem became clear. Much of the work the educators and therapists were doing with Lucy consisted of matching exercises; they repeatedly asked her to match pictures and images on cards or to point to pictures on command.
I quickly deduced why Lucy appeared to be springing at her teachers. In the midst of the activity, the assistant abruptly changed course. She stopped showing pictures and instead wrote Lucy’s name on a card, placed it in a row with other cards, and asked the girl to identify it. Almost immediately Lucy dove toward the young woman, trying to pull on her blouse in protest.
Why?
The therapist had shifted the pattern, changing the rules without warning.
When a highly anxious child craves routine to understand the world, it’s no wonder a sudden change throws her off. To test my theory, later that day I watched Lucy stroll with a teacher along a familiar school hallway. Then I suggested that the teacher alter the route from the usual routine. When she did, Lucy, suddenly upset, again lunged and grabbed at the teacher’s neck and blouse just as she had before.
It was clear that the grabbing wasn’t aggressive behavior; it was a plea for support at a moment of extreme confusion. Lucy didn’t intend harm. She was confounded during a familiar activity; she had become more anxious and dysregulated, approaching a state of panic.
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So Momoi didn't intend on harming Haruka here, but because he spent the entire episode ill and vulnerable, what was routine had been changed. He did this as "a plea of support at a moment of extreme confusion." Basically, the power dynamics in their "play" shifted. He had been relying on Haruka (when he usually doesn't rely on anyone, mostly always in control of the battle) and by throwing her he's doing it to show thanks.
"I am able to be myself again. You helped me go back to being a hero." (Play his role)
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Haruka had shifted the pattern, changing the rules. Likewise, when they went to defeat the monster in episode 3 and FAILED -- she swears fealty and he responds by kicking her and then attacking his teammates (LOL). This is because Sononi disrupted the pattern (defeat monster, save person). She interrupted the routine and killed the monster/human and Momoi didn't know how to regulate himself. Therefore he chose to attack his teammates.
Esp because he only attacked Haruka AFTER she swore fealty, so basically, she was saying "yeah I'll be ur helpful sidekick" and at that moment Momoi needed help getting rid of his anxiety/aggression/confusion at the routine being disrupted and a person being killed.
In episode 7 they ask him "yo, if we're ur companions why did u attack us?" And Momoi said it was to train them so 'they wouldn't hold him back'
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For me, I think what Tarou's really trying to communicate, is that he attacks them because HE sees it as a way to protect his friends from being harmed. The first time he ever attacked them was in the episode where his routine was interrupted and they failed to save someone. I don't doubt this made Momoi upset, and anxious. He doesn't want his friends to die like that monster did and he doesn't want more monsters to die (in general) therefore --> attacking his teammates = training = they can protect themselves and save monsters ergo his routine won't get interrupted and they won't be "holding him back"
"Holding him back" can also metaphorically mean emotionally. Like instead of holding him back cuz they're weak, it's more they're holding him back because if he's busy being worried/anxious about them he won't be able to focus on the battle.
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Another book I read for research "The Reason I Jump: The inner-voice of a 13-yr-old Boy With Autism"
(Notably, the boy who wrote/answered the questions asked in the book was 13 at the time, and also he's Japanese as well, so I’d say it’s culturally relevant. I knew it would be nice to have varied voices/sources. So I included this.)
"Sometimes, people with autism speak with a strange intonation, or use language in a different way. Non-autistic people can sort out what they want to say in real- time, while they’re having their conversation. But in our case, the words we want to say and the words we can say don’t always match that well. Which is why our speech can sound a bit odd, I guess. When there’s a gap between what I’m thinking and what I’m saying, it’s because the words coming out of my mouth are the only ones I can access at that time. These words are either available because I’m always using them or because they left a lasting impression on me at some point in the past. ."
Now this next quote I'm putting down is because it directly reminded me of Haruka, Haiku, and Momoi's episode 4 Cafe conversation. The scene starts with Haruka and Haiku bombarding Momoi with questions.
"You normal people, you talk at an incredible speed. Between thinking something in your head and saying it takes you just a split second. To us, that’s like magic! So is there something wrong with the circuitry in our brains? Life’s been tough for people with autism, pretty much for ever, yet nobody’s really been able to identify the causes of autism. For sure, it takes us ages to respond to what the other person has just said. The reason we need so much time isn’t necessarily because we haven’t understood, but because by the time it’s our turn to speak, the reply we wanted to make has often upped and vanished from our heads.
“I don’t know if this is making a whole lot of sense to you. Once our reply has disappeared, we can never get it back again. What did he say again? How was I going to answer her question? ... Search me! And all the while, we’re being bombarded by yet more questions. I end up thinking, this is just hopeless. It’s as if I’m drowning in a flood of words."
Momoi's reaction and response here now make a lot more sense, right? You can actually visibly see how Momoi is taken aback by all their questions. He looks uncomfortable. Unsure.
Vulnerable.
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He isn't condemning them or mocking them and saying "just do what you're supposed to do, why are you asking questions." He genuinely doesn't know and he's anxious from all the questions they spring upon him. He doesn't even know how to answer the first one and he's drowning in all their words.
Like, is it really a wonder he stood up, turned AWAY from them (not looking at them) and instead went and sat at a counter before asking his question?
And what he asked was if it was really necessary to know the reason for everything. Now, consider this, what if this is another echo of things he's heard? Perhaps how Jin has responded to his questions before?
He's anxious and stressed from their questions, it wouldn't be surprising if he fell back on a response he's heard before.
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This below quote reminded me of the end of episode 4 when Momoi's job is essentially finished and so he stops showing up to the Oni-giri shop/the consultant work place. AND the added cut to him being alone by the pier.
"‘Ah, don’t worry about him – he’d rather be on his own.’ How many times have we heard this? I can’t believe that anyone born as a human being really wants to be left all on their own, not really. No, for people with autism, what we’re anxious about is that we’re causing trouble for the rest of you, or even getting on your nerves. This is why it’s hard for us to stay around other people. This is why we often end up being left on our own.
The truth is, we’d love to be with other people. But because things never, ever go right, we end up getting used to being alone, without even noticing this is happening. Whenever I overhear someone remark how much I prefer being on my own, it makes me feel desperately lonely. It’s as if they’re deliberately giving me the cold-shoulder treatment."
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(Honestly this BREAKS my fkin heart. Because this is so obvious in that lonely pier shot of his. Just the contrast of the people celebrating at the Onigiri shop, and Momoi all alone, staring off into the distance at the deep waters in front of him.)
To me -- at this point, it's painfully obvious that Momoi is on the spectrum. (IMO. He’s at least exhibiting a lot of traits / is coded that way) I know you (Hebi anon) said you had trouble with his behavior or the things he says, but when you look at it through this lens it all starts to connect.
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First, I need to say, Momoi isn't doing ANY of this maliciously. Even his attacks on Haruka. If you're like "that doesn't make any sense" -- well, exactly. Because we aren't looking at it from Momoi’s context. When you ask "WHY" and examine his actions and the context it's in, it puts things into perspective.
(Uniquely human quote:)
That’s a common theme in the children with whom I have worked. Animated movies of all kinds hold a particular fascination for children on the autism spectrum, capturing their attention like almost nothing else. Why?
Many children find the predictability and consistency of animated characters (as well as the music) comforting, a welcome contrast to the unpredictable nature of real people in everyday situations. In Monsters, Inc. or Madagascar, the characters’ vocal, facial, and body language is exaggerated, making emotions easier to decipher for such children. People with autism also find the clear delineation of good and evil characters an appealing alternative to the more nuanced gray areas they encounter in real life. And repetitive viewings engender a reassuring sense of familiarity and mastery.
--> This is why Don Momotarou is so....animated and exaggerated.
And for why he laughs, or repeats phrases? Like the "It's a festival!" Phrase? It's delayed echolalia, or scripting.
Echolalia is something that can be seen as a one commonality for a good handful of people on the spectrum. Essentially they're echoing the words / phrases of things that they hear. And this can be for MULTIPLE reasons.
(1) Because they like saying the phrase and it gives them comfort.
(2) To ask a question
(3) As a self-soothing ritual or coping mechanism to help them with their situation.
etc. etc. etc.
To share an example….yes from Uniquely Human 🤪:
“One day we had the children create an art project with paints, but instead of paint brushes, they used pieces of sponge. Afterward David discovered bits of the cut-up sponge on the floor of the classroom. Just as he had with the fuzz balls, he began picking them up one at a time, closely examining each as he rubbed it between his fingers, savoring the texture. “That’s a piece of sponge,” I said. “That’s a piece of sponge,” he echoed. “That’s a piece of sponge, sponge, sponge!” Again I could see the joy he derived from the combination of the feeling of the material and the sound of the words coming out of his mouth. As he clutched the bits of sponge in his cupped hands and looked at the others on the floor, he began to dance around the room on tiptoes. “That’s a piece of sponge, sponge, sponge!” he kept saying. “That’s a piece of sponge!” The real revelation came the next day. By then the classroom had been cleaned. We had cleared away the art project and someone had straightened up and vacuumed away all the debris. When David arrived in the classroom, though, he returned to exactly the spot in the room where a day earlier he had come upon the sponge bits. I watched as he repeated his dance, shifting his gaze to me and saying, “That’s a piece of sponge, sponge, sponge! That’s a piece of sponge!”
Consider this:
What if a visitor had happened into the classroom that day to observe the children? Imagine such a person watching this little boy coming into the room, full of energy, and then performing a little dance and babbling on about a sponge. The visitor might easily have dismissed the behavior as absurd. Or silly. Or random. The visitor might have questioned David’s grip on reality—or at least his understanding of the word sponge.
But if you had been in the room the previous day, if you had shared the conversation with David that I did, if you knew about his enthusiasm for new textures, then you would have understood exactly what was going on. This little boy was recounting his experience of the previous day—not only the facts of the experience (the materials used in the art project) but, more important, his own feelings of excitement about it.
He was telling a story."
(end quote example.)
So what story is Momoi telling? Well, I'd like to examine that scene in episode 4 -- the flashback to Momoi's past.
When he sees those protestors he says to Jin:
"Its a fun festival!'
Now, I'm beginning to realize he didn't say that just because he thought that was what it was. He's echoing something he probably heard Jin or someone else say -- the time they went to a festival. More than that he's probably asking a question: It's a fun festival, Jin! -->Look at all the people gathered! Why are they gathered? Are they celebrating? What's going on?
He's asking a question, through delayed echolalia as well as making an observation.
Here's another example (from Uniquely Human, I really recommend reading it LOL) :
"Often children use echoes to tell us what they’re thinking, but rarely in ways that are immediately obvious. The father of Kyle, a young boy with autism, once invited me to join the two of them on a sailboat in Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island. In the middle of a lovely afternoon, we were anchoring in a little cove when the boy began running up and down the deck as he anxiously leaned over to peer into the water. “No dogs! Dogs bite!” he kept saying with increasing urgency, looking back at his dad. “No dogs! Dogs bite!” No dogs? We were out on the water, with no other boats nearby—no people, no animals. Just waves and wind. What could he have been talking about?
His father knew exactly what he meant. “He’s asking if he can go swimming.” I asked the father to explain.
He told me that Kyle had a fear of dogs. When he felt anxious about his safety, that was how he expressed it: “No dogs! Dogs bite!” Now he wanted to go swimming in the shallow cove, but he wasn’t sure whether this was a safe place, so he was asking. With that phrase he accomplished three things: he expressed his fear, requested permission from his dad, and made sure it was safe. And when his father responded “It’s okay, it’s safe! No dogs!,” Kyle jumped in with great glee."
This example.....is so good. Now some of what Tarou says or does makes a lot more sense.
When he goes into battle he scripts it as "a fun festival" because he's using an echo of a fun experience from his childhood, an experience that obv left a lasting impression. One that can comfort him, or that he can use to cope with being thrown randomly into battles and fighting.
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It's not so scary if he's a hero, right? Like the ones in his fairytales. Because heroes ALWAYS beat the bad guys.
Even more than that -- he can deal with it if its a game or contest or festival. "This isn't a scary life-or-death experience. This is a fun game!" This is how Momoi copes.
Now, onto Momoi and his thing with mistakes/weaknesses:
(Taken from An Autistic Japanese 13 yr old's own account)
“When I see I’ve made a mistake, my mind shuts down. I cry, I scream, I make a huge fuss, and I just can’t think straight about anything any more. However tiny the mistake, for me it’s a massive deal, as if Heaven and Earth have been turned upside down. For example, when I pour water into a glass, I can’t stand it if I spill even a drop.
It must be hard for you to understand why this could make me so unhappy. And even to me, I know really that it’s not such a big deal. But it’s almost impossible for me to keep my emotions contained. Once I’ve made a mistake, the fact of it starts rushing towards me like a tsunami. And then, like trees or houses being destroyed by the tsunami, I get destroyed by the shock. I get swallowed up in the moment, and can’t tell the right response from the wrong response. All I know is that I have to get out of the situation as soon as I can, so I don’t drown. To get away, I’ll do anything. Crying, screaming and throwing things, hitting out even…
Finally, finally, I’ll calm down and come back to myself. Then I see no sign of the tsunami attack – only the wreckage I’ve made. And when I see that, I hate myself. I just hate myself."
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Ok. I'll end my essay here.
I just want to say, Momoi's action make sense if you look at it from his context with a lens of what people who are autistic / on the spectrum are like. Sorry for such a long response man :x,
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi anon with a Revice funfact
Genta's original name was Junpei Shiranami
Daiji's FENIX member number is 4673
4 = Shi
6 = Ro/Ra
7 = Na
3 = Mi
(6/Roku can be shortened to Ro, 7/Nana can be shortened to Na)
HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMM......
Damn. I love Revice so much sometimes
Interesting too because Daiji IS a Shiranami. (Technically speaking.)
Hmmmmmmm
NOAH controlled Junpei through hate, so I wonder if this foreshadows how Fenix will use Daiji?
Like I think it would be all too easy to manipulate Daiji through hate as well.
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
We've already seen the backfire effect in full force
Taro's "That's not right" backstory. As much as he means well, his blunt approach just puts everybody on edge (because again, stupid human brain thinks it's being attacked). Due to the fight or flight response, the people tried fight first (the mob), then when that didn't work, flight (just leaving to be in peace).
And as we all know, Taro hasn't grown past acting like that so we're going to see it again and again. Infact, we see it whenever Taro turns someone into a Hitotsu-Ki, biggest example being his boss and her obsession with her youth. He just would not stop shoving the unpleasant truth into her face so she kept digging her heels in harder and harder until she turned (if he had just started with "[actual age] but you have so much energy for your age" the confict wouldn'thave happened). Only thing is, Taro is in the unique position where he can literally beat it out of people, so there's no reason for him to understand that that's a terrible way to get people to change
As for the mob, I highly doubt that the mob just arose suddenly. SOMEBODY must have tried to get Taro to understand that he's just antagonizing everybody by doing that. If not Jin (and if he didn't then that's just bad parenting and another reason why I don't like him either) then at least some other adults in the neighborhood. I genuinely believe that Taro just looked at them funny and blew them off, continuing to go "that's not right" to everything, as if the conversation trying to get him to understand didn't happen, until everybody got fed up.
(I also see examples of Taro also performing the backfire effect with his own beliefs but I'll save that for later. More reasons why I don't like him)
Mhmmmmmmmmm
I did some research about this so I’ll have more to keep in mind going forward,,, but I’m excited for your thoughts as always comrade >:))
I don’t yet have enough concrete evidence or knowledge of the characters to form much of an opinion rn but I’ll get back to you on this :33
Although as of rn I’m inclined to Tarou’s defense. My guy has like -8 social intelligence.
I could very easily see an adult saying “hey maybe blah blah blah instead or don’t blah blah blah” and Tarou going
“Why?”
And then the adult being like: *splutters* because—- (doesn’t at all explain why)
Tarou has a big big bIIIIIIGGGGG gap socially,, and to get him to understand you have to really go to his level,, model it in a way he can understand. (Or else he won’t, and therefore not learn.)
This is also assuming someone did try and correct him. The thing is, people generally do not like confrontation. Thinking about the Backfire Effect, I think Sonoza showcases perfectly what that is.
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Society has social rules we abide by.
But Sonoza doesn’t kno, nor understand them. So he breaks all these rules, and just goes up to people and laughs maniacally in an attempt to learn from the humans. Except the humans (the nurses) scream/reject or alienate his behavior. This is because of the backfire effect.
(And it even effects the audience <33)
If someone went up to you and acted like Sonoza, it would be wildly uncomfortable. Hence why I describe it as “insane behavior.” Because that is what it feels like to me.
But to him, it’s not. (As he doesn’t know these rules) —-hence why most ppl don’t know how to accurately respond to this behavior.
Humans are cowards
I truly 100% could imagine none of them confronting Tarou, and instead gossiping to each other before finally doing the mob protest. And I actually think that would be the more realistic outcome.
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Esp for a country like Japan. (Confrontation culture wise)
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Parenting wise
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we saw Tarou make his dad Onigiri (giving it to him as Jin went to work), and?
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Idk. If Jin is a single dad and he has a job, then whose to say exactly how much he was able to teach Tarou :00
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
According to interviews, the primary aesthetic influences for Geats is.....
Fortnite and Apex Legends
Which explains a lot from what we can see from the trailers
Get ready
Fortnite....
Cursed Knowledge
w-
what do you mean it explains a lot...
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
(I'm just gonna say this outright, Donbrothers bounced me right off starting with and after episode 14 and I had some problems before then. I just found what I considered problems too egregious to overlook anymore at that point. Infact thinking about those episodes still makes me mildly upset. Maybe seeing your opinions later on will change my mind?)
Taro isn't perfect, but for the most part he's being displayed as perfect nonetheless. He's the best fighter, the most experienced, does most of the heavy lifting in fights, has powers the others lack, outright says he brings good fortune to others, etc. Jin outright stating that "[Taro] is the solution to learn from" is currently one of the biggest examples of others describing him as a form of perfect and you will see other examples of Taro being put on the "perfect" pedestal. Now I fully understand that deconstructing the trope of "The Ace" is the point of Taro's story, but I don't like how it's being dealt with and I'll save that for when it comes up.
Though I suppose it's more accurate to say "exceptional vs unexceptional" instead of "perfect vs imperfect".
As for the lack of understanding. At least to me and at this point in the show, it feels like Taro doesn't just not understand but is ACTIVELY REFUSING to understand others. Take the lying for example. "I don't understand why people lie", it comes off (again, to me) like "why would anybody do something so obviously and objectively wrong" when he near daily experiences a reason why lying would benefit him in a small way: Rock, Paper, Scissors. His coworkers use the game to put some of the work off themselves and onto him. If he just doesn't answer "which are you going to choose" (which would not be telling a lie), he'd win and nobody would be hurt.
Another example would be his answer to Haruka and Saruhara's questions. Yes that is the truth (not knowing what's going on but acting because it needs to be done), but the tone comes off to me as "Why are you asking pointless questions? Just do it like I do. Why don't you understand that?". Unlike lying, this isn't a moral quandary, they're just trying to make sense of things, so why say something like that when a simple "I'm sorry I don't know either. I never asked why before. This is just something I've been doing" probably wouldn't have elicited the "try to understand other people better" response
I understand neurodivergency, I have bad ADHD myself and I think that I only started to understand the social aspect of life a few years ago. But there's still a difference between being incapable of understanding and refusing to understand (Me and a lot of my friends have been burned way too many times by neurotypical people getting angry at us asking what they think are obvious questions that we don't pick up the answers to due to being ND, so this gets a strong reaction out of me)
There's A LOT more I want to say, but to avoid spoilers I'll keep it until you reach those points in the show. If this is too negative for you, say so and I'll stop.
WOOHOO!!! I love long asks <333
Esp ones with differing opinions and takes; because discussion is so much fun for me to delve into LOL
So keep 'em coming homie, this isn't too negative for me at all lmaooo. You could demean my entire character and call me stupid and I'd be like "wow!!! Great discussion point---" hahhaahahaha.
It'll be interesting to hear about your takes as we continue, I'll surely write an essay/analysis on Donbrothers at some point, but I want to wait till like at LEAST episode 10
(I only wrote analysis for Revice after episode 10 enlightened the way I looked at the prior 9 episodes LOL)
No idea if anything I'll do or say will change the way you feel or think on a subject but :33
There IS one thing I'll say rn about Momoi and 'actively refusing to understand others'
(Quoting you, so I don't gotta keep scrollin up LOL): Take the lying for example. "I don't understand why people lie", it comes off (again, to me) like "why would anybody do something so obviously and objectively wrong" when he near daily experiences a reason why lying would benefit him in a small way: Rock, Paper, Scissors. His coworkers use the game to put some of the work off themselves and onto him. If he just doesn't answer "which are you going to choose" (which would not be telling a lie), he'd win and nobody would be hurt.
Hmmmmmm.
I think it's really easy to judge things by one's own standards in life. Its the reason why people who have never experienced things like mental illness, poverty, food restrictions, etc --- have such a trouble understanding WHY someone is the way that they are, or why they do or make certain actions.
The thing with Momoi is,,,,I don't think he's had anyone to challenge him
(I don't mean in fights)
having someone who is different from you, in thoughts and opinions, is truly one of the best ways to learn and grow. Because the other person challenges the way you think, they challenge your beliefs, and this helps create introspection (and like here, discussion) which is vital in development.
It seems that ever since he was young, his neurodivergency created too hostile an environment for this kind of growth to happen.
He literally has no connections (socially) in life except Jin (who's been JACKED) and his co-workers ---who actively take advantage of Momoi on the daily.
Momoi doesn't understand lying because he's never needed to lie. He's never lied himself. And so if he doesn't need to lie, why would anyone else?
Momoi also likes helping people ---so if someone's asking for his thoughts, he tells them. He doesn't realize the nuance of these situations. He doesn't see it, doesn't recognize it in the facial expressions, or in the way something he says changes the entire mood of the room.
And it's because of these things that he doesn't understand why he keeps losing. There's a lack of connection between 'answering a question' and 'the consequences the answer has'
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Quoting you again: Another example would be his answer to Haruka and Saruhara's questions. Yes that is the truth (not knowing what's going on but acting because it needs to be done), but the tone comes off to me as "Why are you asking pointless questions? Just do it like I do. Why don't you understand that?". Unlike lying, this isn't a moral quandary, they're just trying to make sense of things, so why say something like that when a simple "I'm sorry I don't know either. I never asked why before. This is just something I've been doing" probably wouldn't have elicited the "try to understand other people better" response
I get what you're saying here homie :33
But Tarou isn't socialized (LOL)
"I'm sorry, I don't know either" <-- Momoi wouldn't understand why he would need to apologize if he didn't know the answer to something.
(As why would that be his fault?)
"I never asked why before. This is just something I've been doing." <--is an exploration behind your own thoughts and behaviors.
I genuinely do not think Momoi explores his thoughts and behaviors enough to be able to explain them to someone. "I just do this."
Imagine someone fluent in english. If a foreign friend who wants to learn english, asks them, 'Hey why do you say pink elephant, and not elephant pink? Why is it that a goose becomes geese but a moose doesn't become meese??"
If the english speaker didn't take courses teaching on how to teach english to someone else (especially a second language learner) the answer they would have 99% of the time would be: "Lol you just do it? ƪ(ツ)∫"
They don't have the ability to explain why they do something. Because its intuitive -- it's not something they think about.
And Momoi ---because of lack of social and community interaction and engagement --- 100% doesn't know how to explain the why. He's never known how to explain it. All he knows is how to state facts/what to instruct on the next thing to do.
He wouldn't even know why you would *need* to explain the reason behind something. If he knows what needs to be done, then why would you want to know the reason why?
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A lot of people who are talented in a particular subject, often aren't good at explaining why they do a thing, or at explaining how to do it, to someone else. Animes often make fun of this --- like in Haikyuu when Hinata describes how to do things with sounds.
"You go krrrr and then BLAM! Got it?"
Everyone else: ..................................w o t
This is why asking someone why they do something if they learned it intuitively is really quite pointless because nearly every time the answer is:
ƪ(ツ)∫
...
This is why I got so "AHHhhHHhhHHHh" When Haruka and Haiku tell Momoi he needed to understand people better, because he doesn't even know how to do that?
And because of this it makes him feel more isolated and othered. Momoi already thinks something's "not good" about him, and their responses really just confirm it. Because in him 'needing to understand people better' it just tells Momoi that he doesn't understand people ---that something about him is broken, or wrong, or Not Good and because of this he lacks this "understanding."
He lacks being a part of "people."
That's why I said the next shot was interesting because it looked like Momoi was at a confessional. Like he was a sinner confessing his sins to some omnipotent God.
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Doubly interesting, seeing as the people he's "confessing" to are Haruka and Haiku who immediately condemn his lack of understanding.
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Momoi isn't refusing to understand, he never learned how -- no one taught him, or told him, and he doesn't even know how to state what he doesn't know. Unlike everything else, understanding is something he can't learn intuitively. He doesn't even know how to ask: 'How do I understand people better?"
And because of this he sees himself seated in the place of a "sinner." In the place of someone who confesses what he knows. Who confesses his truth, only to be condemned for it. Everyone else are the omnipotent God ---they know what he doesn't, they understand --- something he clearly lacks, and because of this he'll always be lesser than them.
He'll always be "Not Good."
(Really funny homie as we reacted to this scene very strongly because of the same principle but on two totally separate ends LOL)
You're upset and frustrated because you read this scene as Momoi being a CHAD and condemning Haruka and Haiku for asking pointless questions instead of "just doing it."
I was upset and frustrated (taking much psychic damage) because I read this scene as Haruka and Haiku condemning Momoi for what they think are obvious questions that he should be asking, what they think/believe are obvious and socially universal things --when Momoi doesn't even pick up on the questions. When he doesn't even realize he should be asking them.
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He only picks up on the facts. And his fact, is that he doesn't have all the answers, and just knows what he needs to do/what needs to be done.
That was his confession.
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And he was condemned for it.
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon here!
Here are pictures (or at least links to pictures because anon limitations) the three toku heroes Sonoi, Sononi, and Sonoza are based on
Sonoi/Choujin Barom 1: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/6/6e/Barom_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220201011448&path-prefix=protagonist
Sononi/Symbol of Justice Condorman: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tokusatsu/images/d/dc/Condorman.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130127213757
Sonoza/The Kagestar: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tokusatsu/images/1/1f/Kagestar_and_Bellestar.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171111084951
AYYYYY
thx for this
I planned to look 'em up but I'm incredibly no energy :]]
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Introduced just to let Taro win? No
Introduced with zero story significance and just to create more toys to sell? Yes
I know this is Tokusatsu and that's the name of the game. But when stuff like this is properly introduced as part of the plot and foreshadowed, it's awesome. This feels like jingling keys in front of my face and screaming into my face with a megaphone "buy our random merch"
Hahaha. I mean I thought the thing was cool so I didn't feel too bothered about it.
I just got really curious and interested in what was going on and what this all meant and what not. And I think if its for advertising this has gotta be one of the better ads no lie.
Like the henshin and fight was really cool LOL.
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Expect to have absolutely zero explanation for the existence of Robotaro. Just. Exists. All of a sudden.
Dobrothers keeps frustrating me
Ayooo <33
To be honest I’m okay with rando sh*t being thrown out there because there is so much we don’t know, and it’s tech ? Not like the power up was there / only introduced randomly so the good guys could win.
I’m sure Momoi could’ve won without using it
What it does make me wonder about is like,,, obv the lore? Like was this power up unlocked because of Haruka’s help? Like is that what Momoi meant when he said ‘but your help will make up for the difference?’
-> thinking this only because we’ve seen game-ish mechanics introduced with the Kibi-points system 🤔.
Or is he talking about the 300 previous Kibi-dango, that she and Haiku made adding up to that *one** (seeing as after he had those, even if they were made wrong, it still helped him a LOT compared to how he was previously)?
(Or all of the above? Lmao)
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
At least with Micchy he did most of his shady shit in secret
Meanwhile Kijino did it in broad daylight (and it never gets brought up again!?)
☝️☝️☝️☝️
I should say here tho
That since these peeps don’t interact everyday with each other (I’m pretty sure Momoi is the only one that knows Kijino’s identity right?) they would therefore not have enough familiarity to notice something off or weird about another team member
And then add in the fact that they’re randomly thrown into battles where they immediately break into action, no time to think, just fight
Well,,,
I don’t think it’s all that strange for no one to address Kijino’s behavior here.
Hear me out,
People forget what’s placed in the peripheral. It happens in the news all the time, something big will blow up — maybe a celebrity scandal, for example —-and then give it time and it’s as if that never happened
Now when you add in the fight aspect?
Humans have fight versus flight. The moment the homies enter battle they go into ‘fight’ mode. Often they don’t get a lot of thinking time either, unless they’re on scene when the monster appears.
Idk if y’all knew this but—when you go into fight or flight
The neocortex of the brain shuts down. Which is problematic because the neocortex contains the things that make it so you are able to critically think.
Therefore, in a fight or flight situation (when you’re battling a perceived threat, which would pertain to a Donbrothers battle), you are not able to think critically. Everything you do is based on muscle memory. Things you have done before or were trained for.
And.
Fight or flight affects your peripheral. As in, it’ll literally put blinders on you so you aren’t able to see what isn’t directly in front of you.
So, why is this important?
Because this means the other donbrothers are (1) not able to critically assess the situation, NOR are they capable of critically thinking.
(2) They have blinders on. So I doubt they’ll outright notice any odd behavior from Kijibrother unless it’s right in front of them — like if he were to attack them or something. Then they would think: what??? Why did he do that??
(3) They don’t know Kijino so they wouldn’t recognize patterns in his behavior that indicate something is off
Personally, they might just think he tripped or something and caused Momoi to miss the blast. 🤷
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Episode 11 is also a good one and actually sets up a later conflict that I'm fairly interested in (not enough to stomach the rest of Donbrothers though)
Episodes 10, 11, and to a lesser extent 12, actually made me hopeful about Donbrothers again
Which just makes what I hate about 13, 14 and 15 feel like even more of a slap to the face
🤔🤔🤔🤔
I see 👁
When we get to 13-15 I’m so ready for you to drop the reasons why u don’t like it/whatever the heck happens in those episodes
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Episode 10 is one I genuinely like
(Unfortunately it's also major set up for my anger in the upcoming episodes)
Episode 10 be gettin some major positive reviews then 👀
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Deeply grateful for the well structured essay on Taro's behavior
My neurodivergency manifests mostly in the "Logical and Literal Thinking" way. As in I have the hardest time making leaps in logic and need to think in a very step-by-step way. Thanks to you I have filled in most of those missing steps on my perception of Taro
Unfortunately I still don't think I can be willing to give Donbrothers another chance as after I sent in the previous asks, thinking about Taro's actions put me into a loop of traumatic flashbacks (yes, I'm serious, as of writing I'm still shaken and emotionally burnt out). While I now have better context for Taro, that doesn't make the emotions I felt any less real. Taro is really just bad for my mental health.
That and I just can't get over how much the show constantly jingles a shiny new toy in front of my face with no rhyme or reason in the plot and Inoue's repetitive script recycling
😱😱😱
Hebi-anon ohhmygoshHhHhBhHhT
Take care of yourself first my friend D:!!!
Your emotions are absolutely valid. If he’s bad for your mental health, then It’s better to cut him from the periphery. I get it 1 billion percent
I’m glad I could at least fill in those missing pieces. But man, take care of yourself 😱
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
You've already explained in perfectly clear detail that Taro matches your form of neurodiversity. I fully understand and respect that. Neurodiversity takes on numerous different forms.
However, we're seeing this mostly through the eyes of Haruka. In her I see my form of neurodiversity, and through that perspective Taro and Jin's actions with relation to the setting end up painting the most neuroTYPICAL patterns I've had the worst experiences with (again, relating to some deep seated traumas)
I'll explain what I mean in full when you reach Episode 15 (which drove me to actual angry screaming by the way, so expect a lot of negative emotions)
Absolutely understandable.
I have a feeling episode 10 of Donbrothers is going to bring out my "Inner Daiji" so to say.
Will I get triggered going into it? Man idk, yo. Lately Haruka's been wayyyy too relatable bro, and y'know. Well I'm just spouting nonsense cause I haven't watched the episode yet.
Just kno, I completely get you lol.
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scoups4lyfe · 2 years
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Hebi Anon
Yeah that was me hating Jin
As for the Kongu ask. THEN JUST HAVE JIN SAY "I DON'T KNOW EITHER"
Jin has been set up as the exposition character, so the natural assumption is that he knows the most (not all, I really don't expect him to know everything) about what's going on.
Jin could just say (or at least imply in dialogue) that he doesn't understand why Taro has his quirks, just that he learned what they are and accommodated for them as he raised him. That would have satisfied me and have me looking for answers about Taro's behavior elsewhere. But no, just half answers and outright refusal to say more. These people are trying to understand your son. Something no one else (as far as we've seen) has ever tried to do. WHY ARE YOU NOT HELPING THEM!? If it's because there's an important reason it should be kept a secret and there would be consequences for telling to much, TELL US OR AT LEAST IMPLY IT.
You know how half of the enjoyment of the Soulsborne genre is discovering what is going on by story breadcrumbs? It works and I love the genre (despite being terrible at the games) because while it's a challenge to find the info in flavor texts, the information is all there for you once you reach it.
Now imagine a Soulsborne game where 70% of the flavor texts don't give you exposition and just insult you for even trying to ask questions and trying to figure things out and the last 30% isn't enough to make a cohesive narrative. THAT is what Donbrothers feels like to me.
I AM (or rather was, like I said I gave up and now just too angry to care) INTERESTED IN YOUR STORY AND SETTING, STOP SHOOTING DOWN EVERY QUESTION
Confusion is fine, it creates intrigue and curiosity. But Donbrothers just drowns you in confusion after confusion while holding the answers just out of your reach constantly
HEBI ANON
I AM SOOOOO SORRY YO
Bro in your other Momoi ask (that I'm writing up a response to now) I uh,....I wrote a whole a$$ essay/research paper analyzing Momoi and why he acts the way that he does, even down to him beating up his teammates, or kicking Haruka in episode 9.
So the answer to this ask is just (1) absolutely valid thoughts on Jin <33. No idea why he's like that.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(2) Soulsbourne sounds interesting 🤔. I've never heard of it before lol! I'm a big fan of video games too >:)).
So. Lemme just say here,,,
(as a preface to prepare you for the absolute nonsense I'm about to answer in your other ask)
Uh... well let's just say I perceive Tarou *TOO* well now. And I get your frustration.
I think what made it so frustrating for you is perhaps you didn't have the lens you'd need (like with 3-D glasses at a 3D movie) to analyze or interpret why Momoi is such a funny lil freak <33. I didn't quite have the lens either tbh, but I def had a bit more in my arsenal of which to approach his character.
But Nacho -- and I mean this deada$$ honest / 100% seriously
They ARE Sonoi but with Ikki's traumas LOL!!!! We were talking about inner-demons and my homie goes: "With my luck my inner-demon would be Ikki" LOL!!!!
CRYING! Anyways, outwardly and philosophically and just how they think = Sonoi.
And I appreciate Nacho so much because I'm more of an abstract thinker and its hard to ground my thoughts or really give them words, but Nacho is a very grounded thinker and whenever we talk, it really helps me find answers that I didn't even know I was looking for.
Right. So I hope my answer to your next ask helps you maybe understand Momoi a little bit better.
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