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the-winterer · 9 months
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Finalised redesign for my sona Hue! with a more human look, she's still capable of going goblin mode
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These are some emotes I made for my discord server, her eye changes colour based in emotion which isn't a trope I usually like but here I think it suits her
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just-bendy · 1 year
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just saw asks were back open! question to the artist: this might sound weird, but could you please show how you go about drawing the cast? mainly bendy and alice i guess (honestly i would prefer simple shapes or sketches-- but i want to know how you do the proportions and all because your artstyle is really nice looking haha)
(( sure! sorry this gets very long so i put the rest under read more, hope its helpful to you! i'm not really a teacher tho but i'll do my best
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first i like to start with a simple circle and guidelines for where i'll put his eyes
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then i add his cute face
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and his pointy horns! ( i struggle a lot with his horns tho 😓 )
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i add a line for his body to follow
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and i place his lil bean body somewhere below. i like to make it the same length as his chin to eyebrow. i use this measurement for nearly everything else
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then comes his legs, his bow using a square and rounded triangle shapes, and his noodly arms and oval shape for his hands
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then i add his fingers, gloves, and his tail
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on a separate layer, i ink the bendy! making some corrections, details, and adjustments from the initial sketch
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i hide the sketch layer
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then i change the line color to black and start coloring him (on another layer)! i also like to color the lines to make it look a little more interesting
and bendy is done! i love how simple he is to draw, it makes it fun giving him expressions 🥰 i'm still perfecting the way i draw him, so he will always be changing.
i'm not sure what kind of pose this is... the first step to drawing a bendy is to always visualize what pose you want him in 🤣
now it's alice's turn!
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i start similar to how i draw bendy, but with an oval shape
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add her lil face
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then i draw the lines again and two circles for her body, with the bottom one being larger
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i draw her hips, similar to a bikini look, then her waist
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i draw her head shape, outlined in red to make it easier to see for this tutorial
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then i finish her body by drawing her boobas, her neck, arms and oval shape for hands
( i just eyeball her boob size so the sizes could be inconsistent from drawing to drawing 🤣🤣)
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and then i draw her dress and finish her hands
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add her hair, horns, halo, and tail and we're done with the sketch
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ink alice on another layer adding details and other adjustments
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and finish the drawing by changing the color of the line and coloring her! alice is finished and she looks really cute
these are from an old tutorial but i thought it'd be helpful here! this is to help with the shapes i use for the characters
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and another tutorial here which could also help if you still need it! its a bit old but its better at showing proportions? i think
thank you so much! 🥰💜💜✨i'm glad you think it looks nice! really appreciate it! 🥰 sorry this got so long but i hope you got something out of it!
if you wanna check out the older tutorials i made, you can go through the "art tut" tag on my blog ))
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imaginecorporation · 11 months
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Aahhhhh, the Limbus Company sprite character art looks really good, Mod Aleph! You have the heavy outer lineart and varying sizes of inner line art plus back the shading down pat.
You matched the sinners uniform colors quite well although I now wonder what your EGO stripe suit style and base EGO weapon would be. Got any hints to what they could be? Or what kinda backstory your self-insert would have to join Limbus Company B?
Oh and of course, we just HAVE to wonder what your designated hex color and name plus your sinner number wuld be. The eyes and hair colors are really good looking for both the sprite and possible color name, they're colorful enough to stand out from the crowd of sinners if you put them into a battle plus unique enough that the shade of the sea green hair and dark pink eyes makes it easy to differentiate from Faust's pink or Honglu's turquiose colors.
Does Mod Finn have their own Limbus Company OC too?
Also, regarding your question on if anyone wanted to see more Mod Aleph art together with Heathcliff....HAND SHOOTS UP TO THE SKY ME ME ME ME I WANT TO SEE PLEASE! YOUR ART IS ALREADY SO GOOD! I AM EXCITED TO SEE MORE
Sorry for the many questions and long ask and for any mistakes in spelling or grammar, currently on mobile.
-Faithanon
Hi Faithanon!!! You do not want to know the amount of color picking and cross referencing went into that art. I ref'd pretty much every woman sinner lMAO (mostly don though. the eyes are big don inspired. and. i am one inch shorter than don irl so the proportions worked best. I Am Tiny.)
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I mean. look at me. Small. (you can notice the replication inconsistencies when put next to an actual sprite but shhhhhh)
BUT. I do have a small bit about her!
She's called Mimi and she's not. ACTUALLY a sinner. Hence why her uniform is similar but Not Exactly. She's missing the red stripes, some accents, and her name being anywhere on her coat
I usually refer to her as being some odd temp hire stand in from another branch of Limbus. Basically just "oh here have this random woman to fight alongside you. What Do You Mean That Ended Poorly The First Time" (though you mentioning the idea of base ego makes it SO tempting to work out a more sinner oriented angle for her ngl-- her color would PROBABLY be #249e9b 'turquoise' or #ff00f0 'fuchsia', but of course don't have a second word to go along with it since. yeah.)
She helps the fight from a distance, obviously not getting up close and personal because she does Not have the luxury of shoving her mortal peril on Dante.
AND YES! Mod Finn has his own limbus oc! though, for him it's a pm oc in general (i'm the one that designs a new insert each time i like a new man lMAO--) so he might post them soon!
And Interest In My Heathcliff Art You Say? I've Heard Enough
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gotgifsandmusings · 5 years
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lindsay ellis is great and all but she thinks anti-got folk are either book pedants or hipsters. she recognizes some of got's flaws but her pov seems to be that deliberating excluding yourself from possibly the largest collective fandom event ever is stupid; these are exciting times. most of that is agreeable but it's stuff like this that I'm sure reminds you guys it's not nice being in the minority and in earlier days made you think if you're being biased or blowing things out of proportion.
so you guys have been pretty brave is what i want to say. sure, the hype around got is really exciting, but if only the show maintained the standard of its first season, it wouldn’t feel so hollow. and btw, if anyone had any doubt if your sizing up of got’s writing room was correct, it surely was blown away within the first 5 minutes. immediate on the nose season 1 reference with random kid running around winterfell and arya smirking like “now we’re here” oof this is such a spoof
also, you’d imagine the first spoken words in the opener for their widely anticipated final season would be a result of a considerable amount of thinking. and what did they come up with? eunuch joke. imagine thinking tyrion’s “i have balls B)” punchline is fucking hilarious and then writing a set up for it. it was so obviously worked backward. like this is what they thought people who have watch parties in pubs should be cheering for going “haha omg this show is back”
Yeah, I saw her tweeting a bit of that. It’s definitely disappointing because I do love so many of her videos, and find them very well-researched and pretty sound in her approach to dissecting where something erred, or what its core message is. But then I also feel like she has these hot-takes about every six months that I very much disagree with (like her weird James Gunn shaped hill she picked to die on). I feel like her point here was that people should be allowed to consume problematic media even for ~lesser reasons~ like “aesthetic pleasure” which…sure, so long as you engage with flaws and listen to the voices hurt by programming. But no doubt it was dismissive.
Also the very serious structural problems of the show, misaligned character motivations to the plot, inconsistent characterization, full on retcons, and ultimate audience take-aways you would think would be a bit accessible to the person who tore apart Disney’s Hercules on the same basis, ya know?
My own disappointment aside though, I definitely don’t think what we do is brave. Like wow, I feel very unworthy of that praise. I just sort of accept that there’s a bit of cognitive dissonance people have when it comes to GoT (often the result of book projections, which I was totally guilty of until 4x09), and I’ve gotten good at ignoring the inevitable hype oozing out of every corner of social media, even from people who don’t normally talk about tv shows and movies. 
And I definitely still question myself if I’m blowing things out of proportion, lol. But sometimes the show is just the show! Like your example from the opening line…holy crap. What do people see in this?!
Frankly the dialogue yesterday about Sansa/Dany was one of those situations where I had to check myself. Because sometimes I think that “oh this is probably sexism” (in terms of anyone having issue with Sansa’s tone/words) is so like…basic and kind of dumb, that you wouldn’t think it’d even need to be expressed. But then when I saw people still struggling with what I was trying to argue (I wasn’t conveying it the clearest), I came to that “give her lines and tone to Tyrion” exercise. This is a super super weird show to talk about on the internet.
Finally, I try to avoid the term “gaslighting” with media, since I experienced gaslighting growing up, and “retconning” usually serves the same purpose. BUT. This show actively creates new motivations from season-to-season for characters, and tries to create rationalizations that make people forget how we got to where we were.
D&D talk in their interview about how Dany is doing this really nice thing for the North and is frustrated with the tepid reception, but that’s 100% NOT where we left Dany last year. She was honored at being given the North, and hoped she was worthy of Jon’s confidence in her, clearly thinking about winning everyone over. Not to mention Jon didn’t kneel “for the North” since Dany had ALREADY agreed to fight at that point. He kneeled because he believed his Lords would ‘come to see her for what she was.’
Now that’s all been put into a blender so we get fed cool sentiments like “how can you care about titles now?!” and we can nod and think about how small-minded everyone is being, but no…the actions to which people are taking issue were never particularly justified, and if titles don’t matter, then why was it necessary to kneel at all?
Sorry, this answer was all over the place. The show is…not good, and in a way that makes me need to pull receipts on their own damn writing from just two episodes prior. Yeah, it might be enjoyable aesthetically, but calling critics “hipsters” (even jokingly) just doesn’t feel particularly reasonable.
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scripttorture · 5 years
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Sorry. I'm naive but what is torture generically and is it something we all do or are capable of doing as experiments have shown? M
There’sno need to apologise for not knowing something, that’s why I’mhere. :)
Tortureis a specific, legally defined, form of abuse. It isn’t defined bythe abusiveactionbut instead it’s defined by the positionof the abuserand the motivationfor the abuse.
Thebasic definition is intentional, painful abuse by a public official(a government employee) in order to try and get information fromsomeone, to force them to confess, to intimidate them (or otherpeople) or to punish them (or other people).
Soif a doctor in a government-run mental health facility hits a patientas ‘punishment’ for something the patient does: that’s torture.If the same doctor goes out into the parking lot on their break andhits a passerby, that’s assault.
Somecountries expand the definition to include organised criminal gangsas well as government officials. But that depends on the country andlocal laws.
So,by definition, torture is notsomething we all do. Not all of us are government employees ormembers of organised criminal gangs.
Ido sometimes say that we’re all responsiblefor the torture that occurs in our global society. But that’s notbecause we’re all actively hurting each other.
It’sbecause, as a society, we often excuse, condone or express supportfor torture. A lot of that is due to ignorance of what torture is andwhat it does.
Sofor instance a common ‘justification’ for torture is gettinginformation from someone- but we know that pain and suffering can notforce someone to give up accurate information and actually damagesmemory. Torture can’tresult in accurate information.
Butwe’re so used to the idea that it does that people parrot thisidea, in reality and in the fiction they produce. The researchproving that it doesn’t work is available, but the majority ofpeople are completely unaware of it.
Sowe’re ‘responsible’ in the sense that I don’t think we’redoing enough to stop a widespread and awful crime.
Asfor whether we're all capable of torture-
Iassume that's a reference to the Milgram experiments? Theseexperiments were conducted in the 60s. They've never been repeatedand analysis of the raw data (rather than the data Milgram reported)actually goes against his conclusion that 'anyone' could be made totorture.
TheMilgram experiment, for those unaware of this steaming unscientificpile of tripe and cherry-picked data, was supposed to test theempathy of volunteers. There were two people, in seperate rooms whocould see each other through a window. One (an actor) was wired to amachine. The other was seated at a control panel with a dial thatthey were told administered electric shocks of increasing intensityto the person in the other room. The person being tested (the one incontrol of the dial) was told they were involved in a memory andlearning test. There was a person in a white coat beside them, givingthem questions and encouraging them to administer shocks for wronganswers. After a time the actor started to simulate increasing pain,beg the person to stop and eventually pretended to die.  The personin the white coat was supposed to follow a strict script and tell theperson being tested to keep administering the shocks a maximum ofthree times. They were not supposed to bully or threaten thevolunteers.
Inthese tests a high proportion of volunteers kept pressing the buttonto the point that the actor 'died'.
Howeverthere are huge problems with the experiment as it was reported.
Forstarters audio recordings of the sessions, which weren't realiseduntil decades later, clearly show the white coated authority figuresbullying, threatening and harassing the volunteers. The choices thesepeople made were under pressure. The authority figures did not adearto the script and thus the experiment does not show that peoplefreely choose to torture each other with little encouragement asMilgram suggested.
Secondlymany of the people who were recorded as 'complying' (ie pushing thebutton) do not appear to have done so in the recordings. They argued,they protested and a great many of them pretended to push the buttonbut didn't actually do it. That's incredibly significant because itmeans that, though they felt forced to carry on with the 'torture',they were actively trying to find a way to avoid it.
Andthen there's the bit I find most damning of all- the follow up surveyfrom the experiment. When asked later the vast majority of thevolunteers said they didn't believe the electric shocks were real.
Thatinvalidates the entire experiment. Because the experiment only showshow likely people are to hurt each other if they believed they werehurting someone else.
Justto make it worse, cross referencing the experiment and the latersurvey found that the people who kept pressing the button were muchmuch much more likely to not believe the button produced electricshocks. Conversely the people who refused to push the button weremore likely to believe the electric shocks were real.
TheMilgram experiments were poorly conducted. They were inconsistent.And the results the group reported aren’t backed up by the datathey actually collected.
Tomake matters worse the experiment can’tbe repeated under rigorous conditions because shortly after theMilgram experiments ethical guidelines started forbidding misleadingexperimental volunteers in this way. You could not legally conductthis experiment any more. And there are very good reasons for that.
Thiskind of deliberate misleading of volunteers caused a lot of harm;think about how you’d feel if you took part in an experiment anddiscovered years later that you were given a poison that it wasresponsible for health problems you had later in life.
Ifyou’d like to know more about the Milgram experiments and theirflaws there’s a good New Scientist article available here.
Whichbrings us back to the question of who is capable of torture and why.
Thetruth is we don’t know.
Theresearch on torturers is lacking. That’s partly because it’s verydifficult to find enough of them to conduct a proper study. Very fewtorturers are convicted for their crimes and even fewer will admit tothose crimes without a conviction.
Mostof the studies that we do have on them have a very small number ofparticipants. For a long time Fanon’s work was the only readilyavailable set of notes by a mental health professional examiningtorturers. Fanon saw two of them. Extrapolating information about agroup of people based on two individuals is- let’s say inaccurate.
There’smore available now but it’s scattered. And we don’t have anythinglike the scale of studies that I think we would need to draw accurateconclusions. To draw reliable conclusions I think we’d need a widescale study of around 2000 individuals representing as diverse aglobal population as possible. That just doesn’t exist.
Wedo have a lot of anecdotalaccounts. Things like interviews with torturers or things torturershave written or things survivors and investigators have observedabout their behaviour. And sometimes I think that those areconsistent enough that we can draw some conclusions about torturers.And sometimes they’re the only information we have.
Honestlythough? I think we spend a lot more energy then we should trying tofind something different about the people who do horrible things.
Doyou know what the best predictor of violent criminal action in anindividual is? Lowresting heart rate.
Whichis a pretty large section of the population and obviously they don’tall become criminals and not all violent people have low restingheart rates.
PersonallyI don’t think the answer lies entirely in individuals. I thinklooking for something that’s ‘wrong’ with torturers is often aneat way to avoid looking at the problems in society which encouragetorture. If we concentrate entirely on individuals we ignore socialstructures, laws,peer pressure, dehumanisation of out-groups.
Andthe way our popular fiction consistently portrays torture aseffective or justified.
Thereare a lot of factors thatencourage torture globally.
We’reall capable of making our own choices. We are all capable of refusingto commit atrocities. We all have the capacity to reject violence.
Andpeople can be awful. The world can look very dark indeed. We’veprobably all had moments when we’ve felt that Milgram was right andhumans are irredeemably terrible.
Buthere’s the thing-
We’regeared to remember bad news over good news. Weremember painful and traumatic things more vividly (though notnecessarily more accurately).
Ourglobal news culture prioritises bad news over good and gives it moreprominence.
Empathyis so deeply wired into our brains that the most likely cause of themental health problems torturers develop is watching the pain anddistress of their victims.
Ourhistory books focus on the rulers, the generals, the wars and thebloodshed in our past. They rarely gives any attention to the kindsof people who were quietly going around making things better.
AkiRa spent years disarming land mines with a stick and a pocket knife.
DrHawa Abdi and her kids set up a hospital and de-facto demilitarisedvillage in the middle of a warzone. Dr Abdi once gave a terrorist whohad held her and her staff at gun point so stern a talking to that hegave her a written apology.
DrEugene Lazowski faked a typhus outbreak in Nazi occupied Poland. Thisprevented the deportation and death of an estimated 8,000 Jews.
DrDenis Mukwege has spent decades treating the victims of sexualviolence in a war torn country. He narrowly escaped beingassassinated at least once. His children were kidnapped. He is stilloperating and has helped an estimated 82,000 women.
SiddharthKara stepped away from a highly paid career as an investment bankerto self-finance some of the most detailed research on modern slaverycurrently available. He conducted most of it himself and collectedmost of the interviews he uses himself.
Theworld is full ofheroes. We dodetermine our own actions and we doalways have a choice.
Crueltyis not inevitable. We are much more complicated than Milgramsuggests.
Thereis plenty of research which suggests aggression is an innate part ofus but there’s nothing to suggest that violent behaviour inevitablyis.
Wecan make ourselvesinto something better.
Ihope that helps. :)
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louminx · 7 years
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hey! first of all: congratulations on your art, i just found your blog and it's already one of my favourites, oh my god, everything is just stunning! second: i'm sorry if someone asked this before, but i didn't find it in your ask tags; you said you are mostly self-taught, and i wondered: where did you start? do you have any advice for someone who is just beginning to teach themselves how to draw? thanks ^^
I started the wrong way, which is why is took me so long to improve. I would draw without direction, a few times a year, and had convinced myself that I didn’t need the basics, that my “intuition” (ahem) and “talent” (AHEM) were all I needed to improve over time. 
I only started improving once I realised that the first was inconsistent, and the second was nonexistent.
From my experience, learning to draw is done in two ways: through theory and through practice. The two go hand in hand, and ignoring either one slows improvement. 
Theory is easy to disregard, but doing so is harmful in the long term. Behind every masterpiece is knowledge, not magic. This knowledge comes through studying the fundamentals: form, light, perspective, proportion and composition, extending to anatomy, colour and movement. It’s learning to understand what you’re drawing, and how to communicate it, without even picking up a pencil.
Practice is exactly what you think it is: drawing, in all forms. Whether you’re doing studies, or sketches, or creating finished pieces, it’s applying those fundamentals in order to create… Sometimes it’s finding those fundamentals through your mistakes. As much as I like to stress the technical side of drawing, intuition has a part to play too, and can lead you to learning, whether you realise it or not.
For the record, you don’t need fundamentals to draw. And you don’t need to draw to understand fundamentals. But only by combining the two will you acquire the tools needed to properly communicate whatever drawing is in your head.
As for smaller pieces of advice…
Be patient and consistent. You can learn so many wonderful things by listening to an art talk once a day, or spending fifteen minutes every morning sketching. You can’t learn everything at once, nor do you need to. Just make sure that you’re feeding your skills a little bit each day. 
Even small pieces of information can drastically change your art. Simple things, like learning to use a cool light when using a warm shadow, what rim light is, that there are three joints in the finger, the rule of thirds … Take, what, a minute each to learn? I mean, the day I spent 20 minutes watching a video on colour theory, changed my art forever. Those minutes all add up, and are all small victories.
What’s also really helped me, and which is often overlooked, is indulging the philosophy behind art. I’ve watched just as many tutorials on proportion and anatomy, as I’ve listened to podcasts on inspiration and artist health. Thinking about art and moulding your mindset to suit whatever it is you’re working towards is crucial to being a happy artist.
Feed off of creative media: other artists’ work, books, film, video games, music… I’ve always believed that art has its own energy to be used and shared. Allow yourself to find it in other people’s creations and to give some back whenever you can.
Lastly, don’t be afraid to just draw. Draw as much as you can, even if it’s only a little, and no matter how bad you think it is. It’s all mileage, so it all has value.
(I’ve left some resources under the cut, that I’ve referred to in the past and continue to use. Long story short, the internet is your best friend.)
Good luck with everything! I wish you all the best ♥
Most of what I’ve learned has indeed come from the internet (no surprise there). Art books are wonderful, but expensive -and with the internet at your fingertips, I’d argue that you don’t even need them. 
There are a few Youtube channels which are absolute goldmines for any budding artists (links included below). 
Sycra would be my top pick, as he covers a lot of the fundamentals and is a real joy to listen to. To start, I would recommend his videos on Fundamentals, Art Advice for beginners, Iterative Drawing and Artist’s Block.
There are a few other channels I love too.
Istebrak has some great content for digital painters, although much of what she teaches can be applied to other forms of drawing. I’d recommend her videos on Line Art, “Why Your Drawings Suck” and Masterpieces. Her channel is set up in a way that she teaches different things as she goes, through a class-like system, and every video can teach you something new. 
I’ll also add the channels of Ahmed Aldoori, Marc Brunet and Proko to the list.
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