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sushisocks · 6 months

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Hey there! I believe you said in another post that the final confrontation would be unlikely to happen if lenny and sean were alive, so i'd like to ask if you could expand on that pls(if u havent already and i just didnt see it lol)

Btw on a side note im actually super invested in your sean content😭😭the fandom seems to only talk ab him to label as an idiot, so as a fellow sean lover the way you characterize him has me so in love❤️❤️❤️❤️

Oh Anon you are SO LOVELY!!! Thank you not only in giving me the opportunity to rant more about Sean and Lenny (which I am always so willing to do), but also for your super kind words!! Sean is very dear to me, and I'm glad my reading into him as much as I do strikes a chord with other people ;;u;;

The way the general fandom often characterizes him isn't very surprising to me, given his personality & the surface level impressions he gives, but maybe for now I'll save THAT rant for another time, else we stay here forever lmaoo

So, to start answering your question, I believe you're talking about my post from a few months ago, where I talk about how I believe Sean & Lenny would've sided with Arthur & John if they'd lived to see the final confrontation. In it I mention how I find that final confrontation a lot more unlikely were Lenny & Sean to survive that far and stick around for the entire thing.

Now, WHY do I believe this? I touch on it briefly in that original post, but let's really get into it here!!

Okay to start off, there's a LOT of ways I see things going, in regards to Sean and Lenny, were they both to survive, because it adds SO MANY variables, but let's start at the very top.

At a meta level, it is important to recognize that RDR2 is a prequel to RDR1. This meant from the get that RDR2, as it is canonically, was bound to a certain outcome, to set up for RDR1. This ALSO means, that every step from the start of RDR2 was very much there not only to lay the groundwork for the end of RDR2 but also add another emotional layer to RDR1. This is all certainly things we are aware of already, but I think it's important to have that context in mind while we talk about alternative outcomes.

Because, see, Sean and Lenny HAD to die for the outcome in RDR2 to be the one it is. Not only them, but Hosea, Kieran, Molly, and Susan's deaths are ALL integral and important to the story, they ALL make a difference and contribute in pushing the story a certain way, and in reinforcing the steadily increasing hopelessness which infest the gang from Sean's death and out.

So if we're like "what if none of them died?" there are suddenly a LOT of new variables for every mission and every scenario we know from the game, which need to be considered. This is true EVEN if the change in survival count is only reduced to Lenny & Sean.

How different do you not think Shady Belle would have felt, initially, without Sean's death hanging over it? What about the bank job -- would Lenny & Sean end up on the boat to Guarma? What would've happened to them there, then? Would either of them be caught by the Pinkertons instead, with John or in his stead maybe? What other options would there have been, where would they end up at the end of that?

And already here we have to consider how those experiences might've impacted them psychologically, because of who they are.

In the post I mentioned earlier, I talk about how Lenny is new to the gang and probably isn't as stuck in it mentally as Arthur and John, nor do Sean and Lenny have the same emotional attachment/baggage in regards to Dutch. They're loyal of course, because they feel a sense of obligation to the gang, because it provides them with safety, friends, and allies, in an otherwise unkind world.

But what then happens when that changes?

How do you expect Sean and Lenny to respond when the gang starts turning on itself? When Dutch visibly starts losing it? When people start snapping at each other and threatening one another in the middle of camp?

(I have a half-formed thought here about how people would ABSOLUTELY be snapping and talking down to Sean in a way more cruel way towards the end of the game, for trying to keep things light and easy, yknow, fulfilling his role in the gang. I can only imagine what that'd end up doing to him, tbh.)

And, I'll be repeating myself from other posts here, but how do you think Lenny, a young black man painfully aware of the social structure as it exists in America at that point in time, would react to realizing what Dutch's plan with the Wapiti is? Same goes for Sean, who has SEVERAL instances through the game showing him just as politically aware as Lenny - certainly moreso than Arthur.

Would the outcome for the Wapiti tribe be the same, do you think, if Charles had more people than a very sick and tired Arthur to lean on, willing to help? Would Lenny in particular want to stick around to see Dutch attempt to drive the tribe into the ground for his own gain?

Also, I'm sorry but like, Lenny has a camp interaction with Dutch where he disagrees with him (about Miller, Dutch's favorite author) and explains why in a very well-articulated manner. In one instance, Dutch gets straight up offended by it, bcz Lenny can argue very well (and is RIGHT mind you lol).

I do absolutely believe that Lenny would not just sit around quietly in Beaver Hollow. I'd expect him to be among the most vocal in their discontent with the situation, and probably the best at arguing against Dutch.

That is, up until a certain point. Lenny is a young black boy, and Dutch is a white authority figure. Watch Dutch snap and yell at him, like he does John in Ch6 for example, and see how much longer Lenny sticks around fr. The trade is loyalty for safety and the same in kind. Why do you think members start leaving when things start looking their worst? And don't you think Lenny would be among the first to see the writing on the wall?

Though that is hinging on that very specific vibe in Beaver Hollow, where they're all scattered and losing their ties to one another. Add then in Sean, who is VITAL as social glue, and for making conversations easier. If he, and Lenny, and Mary-Beth, Tilly, Arthur, Charles, etc etc, insert your favorites here, managed to retain some of that community feeling, despite it all, then I absolutely see Lenny sticking around for them.

Same goes for Sean, tbh. I can see him leaving earlier, bcz the trade stops being equal and bcz he's not being taken seriously, and I can see him staying, for his friends.

There IS also a version of things where things are similar and I do see Sean siding with Dutch; but that is a very sad and lonely Sean, who is VERY different from where he's at in Clemens Point, and I think that's an unfair perspective to take for him in general.

Okay so, now we're back to that final confrontation, after I said I found it unlikely, why is that? Because, with every question I've posed thus far, about what Lenny & Sean's reactions might've been to canon events after their deaths, I have essentially presented a variable that comes with their survival to those points. Them being there for it, HAS to mean a change, has to mean something different happens, because their deaths are direct contributors to the path we already know the story takes WITHOUT their presences.

Now, what are those differences and changes? I honestly can't answer; something being different earlier or later can butterfly-effect into something completely new or remarkably similar to what we already know. I could sit here all day and wax poetic about all the different options and possibilities for where things could go, were ANY character to survive past their death point, BUT thankfully, that is what fanfiction is for, lol.

I hope this satisfied some of your curiosity, dear anon!! It was a lot of fun for me to write and think about, so thank you very much for asking!!!

#red dead redemption 2 #red dead redemption meta #rdr2 #sean macguire #lenny summers #dutch van der linde #arthur morgan #rdr thoughts #teki talks #long post #im sorry this took me a while to answer i had to sleep and then do my irl things and then Stew on this for a while #i hope this all made sense tbh idk if i lost the plot at some point in there. im SURE there's a tangent or two but yknow #ALSO if youre interested in reading a potential take on how things couldve gone if Sean and Lenny survived to chapter 6 #my fic Attentive Vigor is a soulmate au game rewrite where their survival is VITAL for the ending to be different from what we know #im almost finished with it! 4 chapters left that im really excited to share #if you like macsummers and sean whump it's got a lot of that after you get past the initial chapters lol #had to do a lil plug lol bcz this topic hits v close to home after all #asks #rdr asks #meta asks

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humanitys-strongest-bamf · 5 months

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hey, kat. it is that anon.

i just came here to apologize for just ....yeah....how that all went down. i wrote that message in haste. i'm abc so when i saw your post my first thought was "wow kinda not cool of them to say that" but then i thought about how i would've posted the same thing if my relatives were fatshaming me. i agree with you that--especially in a predominantly white society--that we have every right to speak to our identities and cultures, including their unrealistic beauty standards.

i looked through your about-mes and couldn't find any mention of your identity, not that you have to disclose that tho. at the time, i tried to think "how can i tell this person that what they said is not ok if they are not-chinese, but that they have every right to (and i can relate) if they are?" and obviously i did a poor job conveying that. i was weighing the possibility that you were white and saying something racist against the possibility that you were also chinese and you had the right to say that.

didn't want to come off anon because we're moots who just haven't really talked much and i don't want to get off on the wrong foot because i was hoping to become friends eventually. i'm not sure if i can salvage things, so if you want me to just unfollow that's fine.

once again very sorry for my miscommunications. like i said, i was feeling kinda fiery as i thought about the possibility of that post coming from a white person. i hope my apology can bring you some peace. wholeheartedly, i hope you are okay and im sorry once again.

(editing bc I was too stoned to see the part about you being abc alskdkfjfg)

honestly, i think the main thing was that this could have been avoided if you had dm'd me. i'm a *tad* less agitated about it now because i've had time to process and took some anxiety meds.

and thank you for taking the time to clarify. i appreciate it. and again, i get it. you were trying to watch out for a marginalized group. communicating through text is difficult.

tldr;

- you don't have to salvage anything - me explaining the white savior complex a bit more, although I appreciate you clarifying about being abc (so am I!) - although i'm still not okay with the original ask i do appreciate you reaching out again and taking the time to clarify - i'm sorry for being so hostile about it /gen - if you do want to chat feel free to dm (whether about this or hornyposting - i'm stoned af rn lmao and am chilling, esp now that you've taken the time to clarify/reach out)

i wouldn't worry about salvaging anything because it doesnt need to be. you taking the time to type this out already says the world about your position and intentions as more genuine and, honestly

most people don't know. my main gripe was the feeling that someone was trying to come in and shut my voice down. with the invalidation that i have dealt with personally, but also as a community that is constantly having our voice stomped on, the comment about feeling the right to say it was what set me off.

I'm sorry I just kinda assumed you were white (guess we were in the same boat there lmao), but a huge thing that irks me in general (not isolated to this obvs), is that a lot of the people that do these types of callouts are usually someone with multiple dominant identities, and rarely the identity of the group they're trying to protect. and this is a huge problem in the social work field especially because the dominant group is *constantly* speaking FOR the marginalized group, regardless of its what they want or not.

anyway, i'm glad you reached out. i'm still not okay with the ask, but you bringing clarity to it does make it a bit easier to deal with. if you want to come off anon and dm me, i'd be glad to talk and chat, even if it's about this (or levi ackerman's cock idrc)

with anons, comes an extra layer of unease, animosity, and uncertainty, so the potential for miscommunication is very high. but again, the fact that you came out, clarified, despite technically not even needing to because i never would've figured out who you were anyway, says much more about your intentions and authenticity (positive) more than anything else could have

sorry i was so hostile in my responses. this is clearly something i've had to tell people off about. my offer still stands, if you want to dm, please feel free (i'm nice once you get to know me i swear LMAO) to

#kat chats #cw: racism #cw: weed #tw: discourse #maybe? idk #anyway sorry i freaked out the bpd kinda possessed me this afternoon #hope i didnt scare you off i'm normally nice i swear ksjfksdjfkjdsf

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why-yes-i-am-an-adult · 9 months

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Hello! I was the anon who dropped in your ask box to freak out over ineffable bureaucracy sometime just before season 2 aired, something personal came up and I have only now just got to finishing the season and I know I'm very late so the shine may have faded for you but.......WE WON BEYOND OUR WILDEST DREAMS!!!!!! IM SHOOK THAT WE GOT...WELL EVERYTHING!IIPRWQYJB!

All that speculating on the "one peticular person" speech, and the mug, and the fly....we weren't just crazy... just thought ide drop in to know how im dealing after the season(going insane!)

Hey, friend. It doesn't matter that two weeks have gone by, I'm still feeling insane about it. A lifetime can go by, and I will still look back to that moment when I first saw ep6 and feel deranged all over again. I was wondering if you had seen the season and how you were feeling, I'm glad you liked it and that we're still on the same boat.

We were not crazy indeed XD I still can't believe it. It's so hard to process because it honeslty feels surreal. Even with all the evidence that we correctly identified as such and the other little clues leading up to it throught the season, it still hit me like a truck when it happened and I will not recover from that for a long long time.

The good thing, besides the fact that it's canon of course and that I got to scream and cry about it, is that more fans are finally understansing our vision and making fanart and writing fanfics of our beloved ineffable bureaucrats <3

#good omens season 2 spoilers #ineffable bureaucracy #ask

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stormyoceans · 1 year

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It’s Anon again.

And I’m so thankful that you’re here sharing your love for Vice Versa. I feel the same and you are talking so well about it.

Oh it’s canon, that’s great. It’s smart from the writers if it was intentional then. Oh yes about this scene in episode 4, I just rewatch it and I totally get what you mean.

Yes, you’re right about the end of episode two. I’m sorry most of this message is just me agreeing with everything you say but you’re so right about everything !

I honestly had a meltdown yesterday when I wrote about Last Twilight and Our Skyy lol. I feel you, girl. WE ARE ON THE SAME BOAT.

GMMTV is spoiling us.

(Ok we are definitely in the same time zone. I’m from France).

hello again, anon!!!!

AAAAAAAA you're definitely too kind to me, most of the time im just screaming and putting words together with barely any coherence, but thank you for your words, they mean a lot!!!! and don't worry if you're just agreeing with stuff, im glad to know we share the same opinions and im also just really happy to hear from you!!!

I DO HAVE MY GRIEVANCES WITH GMMTV BUT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US MORE PUENTALAY AND LAST TWILIGHT SO IM NOT GONNA SAY A SINGLE BAD THING ABOUT IT EVER AGAIN. im very thankful that we're in this little boat together and when the time comes i'll be holding your hand through it all!!!!

#and not only we're in the same time zone but we're also really close #im from italy!!#m: ask

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cheersallthebestgodbless · 4 years

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This is my reaction when I read your post about that the fact that akfr fandom loves furi more than akashi

#akafuri #this is my thought yeah #though i honestly dont remember making post about this?#im glad we're in the same boat anon #thank you for submitting this!#submission

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thetrashywritingwitch · 3 years

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I just saw the post you made about bisexuality and like:(( I dealt with so much struggle accepting I was bi because people I know were so against the LGBT+ community and even those who DID accept it were like “bi? lies”. so many people said there was no way you could like both genders at once so you’re just going back and forth based on who you like at that moment which??? no???

i’m sorry for the vent here feel free to just ignore this ask if you don’t wanna answer but like ahdjfjf

I feel weird coming out to people now just because I have had zero experience with women at all. I came to terms with being bi not that long before I met my bf, and i’m in a conservative area so being open about liking both is A Bad Idea. I accepted that some of the attraction I felt to people I met was because I wanted to date them, but I was not ever wanting to pursue it since I still lived at home, and now i’m in a long term relationship.

i’ve had people ask if I feel like i’m missing out since i’ve never even kissed a girl lmao. all my friends who are bi have kissed a girl (or more) except me because they all came to terms with it way before we all met the guys were currently with

first of all, thanks for feeling comfortable being open with this even if its on anon. i know its not always easy to talk about or be transparent about sexuality and gender and things like that so i'm glad you feel comfortable coming here to share your feelings and story

but yeah, i feel a lot of this VERY hard. i've been attracted to women since i was much younger, like middle school, but i had zero interaction with the LGBTQA+ community. I knew guys could be gay, but i had no idea at the time that girls could like other girls. like it didn't cross my mind at all as a thing! I had a massive crush on my best friend in high school and i remember her saying something bigoted one time like "girls who like other girls weird me out i dont get it" even though we had a gay guy friend so there's some big anti wlw issues there that i'd like to think she addressed later on (we aren't friends anymre and no longer talk). but i remember just being really bummed out when i heard that on a level outside of the casual homophobia and i just.. didn't understand why at the time.

but i'm sorry you've had folks say stuff like that to you and invalidate your experiences and attraction. it sucks!!! we can't control how we feel or who we're attracted to, it JUST IS and JUST HAPPENS and we should be totally cool with whoever it is regardless of gender.

and i feel you on the lack of experience with women. i'm an adult, been only with cis men my entire life and have a long term partner of almost a decade but i've never dated or been with folks of other genders and yeah... sometimes it does feel like im missing out because i just didn't get to experiment or date around before i found my partner. who i love dearly and am happy with. but yeah, the feeling hits me sometimes and i do feel guilty about it. i didn't come to terms with being bi until i was like... 25. and i'm uh, closeted still to all my family. none of them know and i'm too scared to tell them. and idk if i can gather up the courage to be honest about it. one day. idk.

so we're kinda in the same boat of being in relationships but having no experience outside of what we currently know. and sometimes i do feel judged and invalidated for that, but know that you're not alone and i hope that your partner supports you and understands and looks at hot ladies with you at the very least <3

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blackcatkita · 2 years

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it’s so odd to see everyone hyping the mimi cgs when she’s barely relevant to the plot and barely present for chapters on end, but like yeah i guess the cgs are pretty so at least she got that.

ngl, i personally am on the same boat as that other anon, i’ve read about half the stories but just couldn’t get into them and in some cases it’s because as a player who’s interested in women only, having yet another mc being given feelings, interest or whatever towards the m!lis by default doesn’t help at all. im still forced to care about characters i don’t care about whether i want to or not because they’re always there not leaving me at least go through the plot in peace. the worst one i can think rn though is dracula, where sandra the only f!li kept literally pushing my mc towards vlad and leo... however, im really glad to see all of you who’ve been able to find something you all can actually enjoy in RC after you lost that from choices to the point that you all give them the amount of praise i keep seeing on the dash lol. anyways hope your day (and week) goes nicely! <3

I get what you're saying. As a player who romances men almost exclusively, it's hard for me to recognize the issues wlw players have so I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. I can't help but to compare it to Choices whose treatment of female li's is atrocious and often hidden behind a pay wall. But, just because it's better, doesn't mean it's where it should be.

You bring up a good point with Dracula because as a total hoe for Vlad, I hadn't even considered how Sandra players felt. That's on me, and pretty shitty of me if we're being honest. I mean, damn, I felt bad turning Leo down and thought, "shoo, Leo. There's a Vlad." and Leo isn't nearly as forced as Vlad is.

With Mimi though, I have to disagree. I feel like she was very important to the plot but I did do all of the scenes involving her. I love her and I had to make sure she survived!

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