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#is a trashman who needs THERAPY
flowerflamestars · 2 years
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Patently, Elain did not know how to stab a man. She and Nesta had been taught a lot of useless shit that largely boiled down to screaming and running- but the knife in her hand was forged in blood, and knew were to find it.   Elain, who had drowned too-   Elain, who was not the least of the Archerons in any way, who winnowed like moonlight, slow bright and impossible, eerie pale in shadow, to slide Truthteller right beneath Azriel’s chin.   The moment was endless. The moment was less than a heartbeat, not quite right to behold.   “I’m not going to hurt you,” Azriel said, even as blood, black in the dark, ran gleaming down his neck.   “No?” Elain laughed, too teary to be cruel, “Then you shouldn’t have let Rhysand all but kill my sister. Done something, when they wanted my magic. Said a single thing you actually believe when they came for Nesta.” It seemed like it took a very, very long time to reach them- it was only four steps, ringing on stone- it was a small eternity, dense with power. Nesta knew well the value of blood. The dangerous and uncontrollable binding of what was given freely- Azriel, half captive by a hungry magic knife and a hell the gentlest Archeron could make.   She touched the back of Elain’s free hand, prepared not at all the for the way the world rippled when Elain seized it.   “I’m going home,” Elain said. “Don’t- Az, this is not our home.”  Despite the way it made Truthteller bite deeper, Azriel nodded. Inclined his head more than a little, inviting the pain- giving respect. “It could have been.”   Elain pulled the knife from his neck and kicked him, hard as she could, in the shin. “Rhys burnt down our fucking house,” She yelled. “Where is the fortune of my family, Azriel? Where is the money we made, trading Spring emeralds? Where is my dowry?” Like this was an old argument, and gods, maybe it was- Nesta watched Azriel nod again, miserably, more emote than she’d ever seen. “I”-   “Do not,” Elain practically shrieked, “Try to give me your money again, Az.”
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locria-writes · 3 years
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So between Tuk'oer, Vezian, and Valentin, who's the biggest asshole? I feel like these are top 3 amongst the trashmen but I don't know just who is the biggest asshole in the top 3 itself.
i got a wholeass essay on this topic
tl;dr --
valentin -- 7/10 asshole, but a pretty decent guy underneath it all. has his own moral code that he does mostly adhere to, is capable of recognizing his assholery, and is the only one on this list capable of genuine and unselfish love.
tuko'er -- 9/10 asshole, very little redeemable about him, except that he is capable of introspection and self-reflection. had the potential to actually be a great guy, but got too embittered by the world and can't let go of the past. capable of genuine love, but it'll never not be selfish.
vezian -- 10/10 asshole, he doesn't even have the cool tragic backstory the others have to back his shit up. he was never a good guy, not even when he was a protagonist, and not now as an antagonist-figure. i don't really know if he's capable of genuine love.
long essay
Valentin is objectively an asshole. He's a hypocrite when it comes to his treatment of MC, has no qualms about lying/cheating/murdering his way to power, and is just generally unnecessarily blunt, surly, and quarrelsome, but underneath all that, he doesn't just have the potential to be a great guy -- he's actually quite valiant, albeit with some moral liberties and questionable methods, but let's take what we can get, okay?
His whole arc revolves around his pursuit of revenge, at least that's how others see it. But to Valentin, it's a fight to amend his rightfully-perceived injustices. He isn't doing it wholly for himself, in fact, his primary motivation is to seek justice for his mother, and in a broader respect, for all the others who have the same story he does. He doesn't hurt those he perceives as weaker than himself, and he doesn't blame the faultless, most of the time. MC is is the only exception to this because through all the hurt and anger that's been pent-up, Valentin's able to justify to himself why she's an acceptable target, and bend his principles just this once.
Unlike the other two, Valentin's perfectly capable of genuine and unselfish love, and already demonstrates it before MC. If MC were anyone else, he'd absolutely treat her very well, and he wouldn't have any qualms about acknowledging any feelings toward her. MC's only flaw is that she's Burkhard's daughter, and at the very least, Valentin can acknowledge his hypocrisy and deep down, he knows it's unfair to hate and hurt her for reasons far beyond any control.
On a meta-level, is Valentin's character an asshole? Yes, but only in this specific scenario. If his father had been even just 10% less of an asshole, or if he had a strong and non-murderous paternal role model, he wouldn't be a victim of Asshole Syndrome. Would he still be a surly jerk? Absolutely, but he'd be pretty harmless to MC overall, so he's a 7/10 asshole in AAB, but a 5/10 asshole as a character concept, if that makes sense.
Tuko'er, oh this piece of shit, Tuko'er. Undoubtedly an asshole's asshole, he's petty, ruthless, vicious, and completely unhinged. He takes delight in hurting the one he loves, and even more out of just being toxic toward her, and to be totally honest, he just wants to drag her down to his level so he won't be so lonely down there hell. He's an irredeemable abuser who is perpetuating the cycle, but let's take a step back for a second to look at how we got here.
He grew up in a household where power was the only thing that mattered. His father scorned him and set out to purposefully to make him miserable because of his mother is, and his mother was emotionally-unavailable and resented him for being his father's son. His older siblings either ignored and tormented him, and the same went for the servants. Despite all this, he was still very much a noble and magnanimous wide-eyed idealist, though he was internalizing all of this shitty behaviour deep down. Tuko'er craved affection and validation, received neither from his household, and the only person he ever really connected with and felt 'seen' by was Utanzhu. Funny enough, his frustrations over how powerless and useless he was in helping her all culminated to him falling victim to Asshole Syndrome, and becoming everything he didn't want to be. Lo and behold, it worked in his favour, and validated his behaviour.
At one point, before he became an asshole, Tuko'er loved genuinely and unselfishly. He craved affection, but never thought he was entitled to it, but now, after embracing shitty behaviour so long, it's become completely twisted. He treats his consorts and Samazy indifferently -- polite, distant, and doing no more and no less than what's expected, while with Utanzhu, it's an all-consuming, irrational, and distorted love.
Like Valentin, Tuko'er is an asshole, but only under specific scenarios. If he had others he could trust, or if he had been sent away to a different court, he wouldn't have become a poster child for Asshole Syndrome. In fact, he would've probably completely embraced his noble ideals, and become more like Yumaju, to be honest. Or at the very least, closer to what Valentin is, misguided and hurt, and trying to retake control of his life by fighting against those who hurt him. In KoK, he's absolutely a 9/10 asshole with few -- if any -- redeeming qualities left, while he goes from about a 3-7/10 asshole as a character concept.
Now Vezian, my sweet and beloved Asshole Supreme. The OG Trashman, the Prototype Locria-Trashman, the guy who was just as deplorable when he was written to be a protagonist as he is now as an antagonist, an arrogant and pompous character who became a narcissistic psychopath the more I wrote him etc, etc, etc. I can't tell if he's more of a megalomaniac or a psychopath or a narcissist, but I can tell that he's a real piece of work, and desperately needs some therapy (to be honest, they all do though).
Unlike Valentin and Tuko'er, he actually had a very good childhood. Sure, there were some snide remarks about his status and his mother, but overall, his mother loved him dearly, his father was at the very least, not overtly-abusive, his siblings, the Empress, and the other consorts were all either civil, or just distant to him, and the servants charged with caring for him all treated him well. Sure, he was always an arrogant little brat, but in a way, it was justified since he was very intelligent and talented, it's just too bad he's completely embraced the Asshole Syndrome. Nobody who really matters puts him down, but Vezian's internalized those whispers he used to hear about himself as a child, and has now convinced himself that everyone sees him that way, and that Launcelin, is out to get him.
Can he love genuinely and unselfishly? At the moment, it's a tentative yes, since he does love his mother and Doradeira, but other than them, I don't know if he's capable of forming that kind of bond with anyone else, even if he does fall in love with MC. In 10+ years of writing him, I've always flip-flopped on this aspect because I'd like to believe in the best for Vezian, and that he can eventually learn to be less selfish, more open-minded, but the older I get, the less it seems likely because he doesn't think he needs help/change, and how can one grow and mature if they refuse to believe they need to in the first place?
So Vezian's absolutely an asshole in ABEA, 10/10 the others wish they could be as irredeemable as him, but on a meta level, I don't really know? I feel like he could become a regular harmless douchecanoe if he ever got the help he needed, but do I think he'd ever accept help, or even acknowledge that he needs it? He's still such a difficult character to grasp, even though I've been writing him the longest in this list.
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edsterminate · 3 years
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Wwit/newest asides (08/01/2021) spoilers.
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HOLY FUCK did yall watch the asides????? I did and HOLY SHIT WTF JUST HAPPENED???? we got orange possessing logan and hes eyes at the end. WE GOT SNAKE BOI i just love him so bad uuuuuuugh janus pls adopt meee WE GOT THE TRASHMAN IM JUST LIKE SO HAPPY I MISSED HIM SO BAD FUCK hes the best boi ever jk he tried to kill thomas 5 times i think, like what the fuck remus??? We also got princey dad and emo at the end card, WE GOT TO PUT C!THOMAS IN THERAPY HE NEEDS IT SO BAD like virgil is not ready for a relationship, roman is way to excited, i think its to compensate after what happened in pof. Patton is also excited but its about his kiddo growing up amd shit. LOGAN WAS STRAIGHT UP IGNORED AT THE END LIKE I WAS SO FUCKING PISSED THE FUCK???? u know nico is important but wow that was SO RUDE MR C!SANDERS. And i loved janus' "everything is just fine" BECAUSE ITS NOT, everything is shit, everything sucks at this point, it feels like they all just hate eachother, AND THAT IS KILLING ME. I love them all so much that it hurts me when they are hurt. That end card was supposed to be cute like the boys appreciating nico and thomas but it hurted me, because as usual, they ALL ignored logan and his feelings, he said it was nice and that it was gonna be fine, BUT IT ISN'T. he is hurt, the other ignored him, FUCKING THOMAS ignored him. He is mad, and we know it. He is so mad that ORANGE POSSESSED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS BEING IGNORED BY REMUS. That is how logan is feeling, i wouldn't be surprised if in the finale he like virgil ducked (quak quak) out. It feels like nobody cares about or acknowledges him.
THE FUCKING SYMBOLISM OF JANUS IN THE TREE EATING A FUCKING APPLE. THE BIBLE SHIT...REMUS SONG...
One more thing, dude, orange is closer than we think, as i said many times in this post, he sort of possessed logan this episode and at the end of the end card we got to see his shinning orange eyes on a full black screen. WE ARE SO FUCKED. We are already dealing with so many shit. Virgil saying he was a dark side, Roman's issues after pof, logan's feelings.... WE ARE NOT READY TO ALSO DEAL WITH A VERY ANGRY "I NEED TO BEAT UR ASS UP" SIDE
Anyways, this was the lat ep before the season finale. I hope it will be out in around 4 months. But who knows, this one ep was really really good, i think one of my favorites and possibly the best one of sanders sides.
Have a good night!! Take it easy guys gals and non-binary pals. Byeee!!!
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sunnys-sides-up · 2 years
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👑 We are here to introduce ourselves. I'm Ryan, and I'm the prince in charge. Let me start by saying we are not a DID system, we are merely Sunny's sides, much like the Sander's Sides show on YouTube. I am his creativity and love of acting, and the main side in charge. I am a prince after all~
😎 Hey, sup, yall, I'm Remy. I'm Sunnys sass and his addiction to coffee. Don't get in my way, I'm straight but act Hella gay lol
📚 I am Kayto. I am sunnys logic and his love of learning and puzzle games like Portal 2 and maze games. I'm also the one of the group who like documentaries and Game Theory.
💫 HIIIIII!!!! I'm Joop!! I'm his ADHD and his hyper fixations on aaaaaaaaaalllllll his favorite hobbies. I love singing, and dancing, and instruments, and drawing, and painting, and rp, and puppiesssss!!!!! Ryan's better at keeping me focused on the creative stuff, but I love keeping everyone on their toes of what I wanna do next!
🦨 Hello~ I'm Trashman. I'm his gross and stinky creativity. (I'm the one that comes up with ideas in the bedroom~~ hehehehe
Trashman!!
🦨well its true~
You dont tell people that!
🦨oh well~
🌧 *sigh* Anyway, I'm Ximmens. I'm Sunnys depression, anxiety, and the quietest in the group. Okay bye
💭 Im Kyle. I'm basically the "go-with-the-flow" side of Sunny's personality. Im also the peace-keeper between the others, so when a fight breaks out I try and keep everybody calm enough to work through our issues.
💞 Hi, lovelies, I'm Mom. I'm Sunnys morality and love for his family. Even though his family is mostly found family ^_^
🧡 Hey, everybody, I'm Dad. I'm another facet of his morality, and his "dad-friend" side. I'm the one that likes to take care of the others and make everyone feel loved
💙 Heeeeyyyy little dudessss! I'm Blue! I'm Sunnys confidence. Ryan and I had to leave for a while, but were back! We are back and better than EVER!
🌙 Hello, I'm exhaustion. I'm basically his love of sleep, and sunnys ability to fall asleep anywhere. But if something needs to get done or if a friend needs help, I help keep him awake at night to make sure what needs to happen happens. No matter what time it is.
💘 I am Lust. I am sunnys romantic side, and, well, his lust. I make all of Trashman's wonderful ideas more romantic and beautiful. I'm what makes him obsessed over Cass, his fiance. I love when two people find each other and are a perfect fit. Its the most beautiful thing.
🌸 *sits and wags tail happily* (Hi there! I'm Sweetie. I'm a dog! I'm Ximmen's therapy dog. I love making people happy and just being a shoulder to cry on. I dont even need to say much, just be there and it helps!)
💥 RUFF RRRRUFF!! *pants happily and runs in circles with a toy* (Hi! Hi! Hi! Wanna play?? I'm Candy! I'm Joop's dog! I run around and love to play! Whenever someone's feeling sad, I'm the part of sunny that will make a silly face or say something silly to make them laugh!)
And thats everybody! Or at least everybody who's shown themself to me. I'm Sunny, and these are my sides! Thank you for reading, and we hope to talk to you guys more soon!
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