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danepopfrippery · 2 years

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Wtf is happening over on ofmd Twitter??

I dont tag in much so last i was aware was the ‘stede bonnet is a racist and u are too’ fluff. And this is of course my take. I only peak in anymore someone more involved might be able to explain better.

Theres some lovely ppl over there, gorgeous art and nsfw art too. But starting lets say may-ish a group of mostly young fans (judging by their profiles most were under 22) started saying most fans were racist for liking Stede Bonnet or Izzy and basically white people and straight ppl shouldnt be allowed to watch or be fans. If u like Con or Izzy (yup both) you were basically a klan member cuz clearly he thinks Ed is his slave etc. it goes on.

Look im white and cishet so im basically 3% of most of the fandom. But i found this particularly interesting cuz a lot of these people crossed over with Wwdits and no one wanted to talk about Kayvan Novak doing repeated blackface starting in 2015. They also didnt want to acknowledge Taika said some real terfy shit when he was my age in 2014 (mustve been an asshole era). Neither man has apologized (or mark proksch) and Kayvan doubled down on it last year.

So look i absolutely can not say how poc are allowed to feel. I just find it very odd they want to lynch Rhys and Con but are fine with Kayvan especially. Blackface to me seems like an ultimate sin.

So moving along… by the C2e2 they wanted to cancel Con for playing Izzy and slammed anyone who fangirled over him. A few weeks later Con made an insensitive comment about a tory having a coke nose, comparing it to a latine country. For some reason that didnt blow up til August. He did apologize and deleted or paused his twitter (he claimed before it blew up he would for filming and this coincided with filming beginning so hard to say). Most of them felt apologizing was no good and this was proof he was truly a racist playing a racist character.

(Fyi my personal belief is ppl should take responsibility, sincerely apologize, and never do x again).

Rhys’ wife is a royalist and when the Queen died they went after her and Rhys for saying Elizabeth’s death was sad. Wife doubled down. Ppl said proof shes racist and he should divorce her (i mean…i didnt love it but they really went after them. Im no royalist and think the queen was a colonizer.)

So then a few weeks ago Rhys Darby briefly replied to a friend that he felt playing Stede Bonnet was like reliving a past life. It was like 2 sentences. Ppl first thought it was cute, then this mob came to feast. They attacked any fan who liked it and attacked rhys so much he declared this is why he doesnt tweet much.

I personally took the tweet to mean he felt like he was reliving a life, not necessarily Stede Bonnet the real dude. But i mean shit if ur playing (or claiming) a rich white man pre 1860 the dude was likely a slave owner. Not a justification but liking a fictional character doesnt mean u think the fictional character is the real dude. I didnt know Stede Bonnet existed before ofmd. Real dude was a cunty slave owner who was prbly mentally ill and an asshole to his crew. I dont conflate Rhys’ bird of paradise bitchy queen with that dude. In my world Stede Bonnet is a fictional character. Fuck the real guy.

Soooo ive ranted nice and long here (sorry i have feelings). But the summary is theres a young mob of ofmd fans on twitter who want to prove they are activists by being assholes to real ppl who arent doing anything worth calling out…while also not calling out actors who really have done shit. Basically baby bullies. And oddly many of them are white so its even weirder. But thats that. I dont recommend bothering with it.

#ofmd #our flag means death #twitter drama #twitter ofmd #con o neill #rhys darby #izzy hands #stede bonnet #kayvan novak #cw racism

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inklingofadream · 2 years

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I wish there were fewer posts getting angry at people for drawing middle aged characters wrong and more posts with advice on how to do it right.

Because unless you do very very realistic art, your references probably don’t really have middle aged characters. Or don’t have middle aged characters that don’t suffer from the problems that people get upset about.

If you draw a character with a smooth face, they look too young. If you try to draw wrinkles, they look too old.

But if you have any kind of stylized art style, you probably absorbed a lot from cartoons/anime/other fanart. And those are all cases where you pretty much only get characters that look identical to the ones in their 20s except for maybe some gray in their hair or characters drawn to look Incredibly Old

A lot of stuff people have learned from pretty much only puts wrinkles on characters to signify they’re Very Old. So doing that kind of reads that way even if you do it in a way accurate to references of the actual human actors. It’s the same as that post about how modern animation has a bias toward thinness that operates in such a way that if you trace a photo of Taylor Swift, an objectively skinny woman, and use that as a base for an animated character the character looks “pudgy” because default characters have such exaggeratedly skinny figures regardless of animation style

So if drawing middle aged characters that look middle aged is important to you, what do you think artists should be doing? What are some actionable tutorials or tips for artists doing stylized art, because the only ones I can ever find are for realistic supposed-to-look-like-a-grayscale-photo sketching!

#art #ofmd #good omens #tma #taz balance #just off the dome are some fandoms ive seen this in #like a lot of people have their internalized idea of stylized character design rooted in what they saw on cartoon network as a kid #i think anime might do this slightly better? but also taking from there can sometimes immediately be a tell #that you took it from anime. in a way that can be jarring in other artstyles #if you have examples even just of characters you think were done well i'd love to see em!#because all i can think of are cartoon parents and sophie in howls moving castle who look like young adults with grays #and characters who get to have wrinkles and also are Extremely Old #ink post

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