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[valenshawke]

Law & Order, Season 23, episode 5: "Last Dance"

Blah, blah, blah, rich tech mogul commits murder to cover-up that he's a sexual predator. Variation on a tried-and-true story that the show has used since time immemorial.

But they had to make it more complicated to write Jack McCoy off the show.

@albatrossisland and @monidon, this one's for you.

In Seasons 18 and 19, you had Governor Donald Shalvoy and he was very clearly a fictionalized version of former NY Governor Eliot Spitzer. I guess they didn't want to anger the current NYC Mayor, Eric Adams, by having a fictionalized version of him being corrupt. But in the era of #MeToo where formerly untouchable powerful men (for decades) got away with all sorts of sexually predatory actions, it strains credulity that someone would not simply cut their losses and distance himself from the suspect. But you need an antagonist, right?

I'm often not a fan of the criticism that something is contrived. A story is a story and the actions a character takes are written to lead to a certain point. Everything is contrived in fiction. It's how well you do it.

Since the show came back, the writers show they simply cannot do it well. Everything has gotta be a twist, curve-ball, or an absurd social commentary (and I'm saying that about a show that did social commentary since episode ONE). If anyone is wondering where my gripe is on that last one, it goes back to my bone to pick with Nolan "Spineless Coward" Price giving IMMUNITY to a SCHOOL SHOOTER so he could PROSECUTE THE FATHER for the shooting.

Now, do I believe (in certain cases) parents should be held responsible for the actions of their children in this case? Absolutely. The Ethan Crumbley case in Michigan is a perfect example! There NOT definite warnings signs: There were FUCKING FIVE-ALARM BELLS and red flags the size of football fields that something was seriously wrong with the kid and he needed help, not for his mother to buy him a fucking gun. Parents were charged without any immunity. I still hold that against the writers.

Rick Eid's run as show-runner has demonstrated a clear lack of knowledge of character history on the show (Jack in particular), a lack of even the loosest understanding of the law works in the show's universe, and a desperate need for actual lawyers as consultants or on the writing staff.

I'm also convinced that writers hate Hugh Dancy. The guy has acting chops, he was wonderful in HANNIBAL. But like… refer to my earlier description of Nolan Price.

Which brings us to Jack's sendoff and the overall story.

Mayor Payne? Yeah, that's certainly subtle.

I often think back to how Jack (and Mike Cutter) fought back against the GOVERNOR and they can't handle the freaking mayor? Writers, what the fuck?

I guess where the writers got something right was Jack believes in justice for the victim, regardless of who you are. And they gave Jack one last courtroom battle. And, on one hand, it is fitting. They wanted Jack to go out in a figurative blaze of glory. He was alone in the court, no second chair. I do wonder if he thought about all the second chairs he's had and how they helped him along the way (I am getting weirdly emotional writing this). And despite the fact he got burned, he managed to burn his enemies on the way out.

But this isn't the end I wanted.

Sometimes, a low-key ending is suitable for a character who worked (by my own calculation) 50-plus years in the DA's office (perhaps closer to 60 years). Who tried some significant cases, contributed to case-law that the show SHOULD HAVE REFERENCED, mentored each of his second chairs after Claire and Jamie. Mentored Mike Cutter.

Jack simply deciding just to retire and not run for re-election and spend the rest of his days fixing his relationship with his daughter, spend time with his grandson, write a book, maybe be a talking-head on legal shows (no, I can't see that), fine. But I wish they could have convinced Sam Waterston to finish out the season, maybe recording something so they show a goodbye party or SOMETHING to start next season, and then have the newly-elected DA introduced. That would have been more satisfying.

As for everything else about this episode. Couldn't the writers, I don't know, research and clarify their own damn show?

Ben Stone

Jack McCoy

Mike Cutter

All Executive Assistant District Attorneys. I know there was some debate on whether or not Nolan Price was actually an EADA. But now he's Deputy District Attorney? What? Writers, there are other EADAs in the DA's office. I realize that the writers have always played fast-and-loose on the hierarchy of the fictional DAs office. SVU had Chief Assistant District Attorney Charlie Philips who spoke of "assigning" a case to Jack McCoy, which I always took more as a administrative role versus a trial role, which put him above Jack in whatever hierarchy worked in the show.

But there were times it very much seemed like Jack WAS the next person in charge if the DA was unavailable until his own appointment.

And then you have the board shown in Season 21 where it seems they had dug it out of storage since it still hate Mike and Connie listed, with Mike being "Chief Assistant District Attorney" before they changed it to "Nolan Price" by the next episode.

I've always been frustrated with the sloppiness of the writing since the show came back and this just adds to the pile.

"It's been a hell of a ride."

It has. I started this show in September of 1998 and even in the periods I didn't watch it too much, there was some comfort that Jack was always there. And I delayed watching this because I just couldn't accept the end.

And now I have.

Memories of days gone by.

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[inevitablemoment]

In my heart, I don’t feel part of so much I’ve known... Now, it seems it’s time to start a new life on my own... But where do I go from here? So many voices ringing in my ear

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[lawandordersource]

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[thefirsthogokage]

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[connie-rubirosa]

Do you have more L&O blog recs? I need more on my dash!

oh i am HAPPY to oblige! i'm not gonna lie, there's not a ton of OG l&o blogs out there, but these are some of my faves that make content for at least one show in the franchise:

@serenasoutherlyns, @sculien, @detkatebenson, @det1stgrstabler, @alexcabotgf, @eccleston, @fourteenthofaugust, @singinprincess, @fearlessoliviabenson, @andremichaux, @elliot-olivia, @bensonstablers, @mrsraulesparza, @dannypinot, @dailydickwolf, @crimeshowsource (more generally crime shows but i'm a member and sometimes we do make/reblog l&o stuff!)

of course there's @lawandordersource (which i'm the admin of hehe) which covers every show in the franchise.

these blogs appear to be inactive but they are still all goldmines:

@lawandorderdaily (inspo for @lawandordersource!), @fylawandorder, @theoriginallawandorder, @clairekincaid (forever jealous of that incredible url hehe), @bsinart, @onepoliceplaza, @kathrynerbearchive, @svucentral, @lenniebriscoe (another killer url!!!!), @lawandordercast-archive, @sambecket-archive, @pathological-prosecutors-blog

(also if anyone is reading this who also posts l&o stuff and i left you off the list, please don't hate me, i'm tired and forgetful right now lol)

#asks #blog recs #if you make l&o stuff and want to be boosted #let me know!!!! #and if i already follow you and i forgot you please tell me and i am so sorry lol

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[stefanmikaleson1864]

Saw how you very much love Bobby and Alex. I'm watching CI on discord on Tuesday nights (in the US). We started a few weeks ago. I think we're on episode 8 or 9? If you want in, let me know. Two people haven't seen it, but me and Holly (who made that gif set from LawAndOrderSource) have. (We sometimes talk over it a lot when we get excited.) Anywho, like I said, if you want in, let me know. Shoot me a DM and I can get you the discord link.

I am very much obsessed with them !!! I’ve been watching the show for so long lol I would very much love to join thank you so much for inviting me 💗💗💗💗

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[connie-rubirosa]

Ma'am was that Cutter post for your blog or LawAndOrderSource

oh definitely for my own blog, i could never put those unhinged tags on a lawandordersource post hahahaha

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[connie-rubirosa]

So I'll send you an ask here so as not to clog-up the lawandordersource blog with my love for Mike and Connie. But yes! I did catch the how the board had Mike and Connie and, much like you, I now headcanon it that Mike and Connie are back in the office somewhere. From what I've read, most DA's offices have a Chief Assistant DA that acts more on the operations and administration of the office and is more traditional the office's second-in-charge. There was a character in SVU, Chief Assistant DA Charlie Phillips and he mentions that he gave a case to an appreciative McCoy (was a slam dunk) to Cabot in some talk they were having, And there was statement by Cabot that it was rumored he would run against Nora Lewin.

But I headcanon that after Mike's stint as SVU Bureau Chief and his prior experience as... I think it's now all but confirmed that the EADA on the mothership is the... Homicide Bureau Chief that Jack promotes him to Chief Assistant to handle the administrative end of the office and Connie came back as a Bureau Chief (hey if they can bring back Jamie Ross as an ADA, let me have this people).

I kinda hold out hope that if/when Sam leaves the show, they'd bring back Linus Roache as the DA with the justification that operationally and with his prosecutorial experience, he's best equipped to handle a smooth transition.

Plus I just want to see Cutter tear into Price.

No shade against Hugh Dancy, but when Price said he was the best after Jack says there were 20 other homicide prosecutors that could have taken the case (and should have!) I said to my friend as we were watching, "In a ranking of 21 Homicide Prosecutors, I'd rank you 22 Nolan."

Sorry for the long ask again but that's just how I headcanon that board (changes be damned).

hehehe we can be on that headcanon bandwagon together! (i just feel like it'd be in character for the two of them anyway—Mike would definitely be a lifer in the DA's office, and i can totally see connie returning in like a "oh, i can't stay away from you, manhattan!" scenario, lol.)

it's easy to envision Mike in that kind of second-in-command position for jack the way you described (it's funny but i just started a rewatch of the early SVU seasons and i just saw the episode where they introduce Chief ADA Charlie Phillips. very funny to see him show up periodically in the original later in the run as a different defense attorney, haha.)

and yeah i feel like enough time has passed that both mike and connie could easily handle those respective positions (would love to have seen Connie as a lead prosecutor at some point on screen—she nails that closing in the season 17 finale—but i think that might be beyond what the writers on the revival are capable of delivering right now, ugh.)

[side note - THANK YOU for pointing out that weird thing with Jamie!!! they're telling me that she was a defense attorney, then an ada, then a defense attorney again, then a judge (okay fine, i'm still on board, this is a somewhat normal career trajectory so far) and then SHE BECAME AN ADA AGAIN???? who goes from judge back to being an attorney??? i was happy to see her again but then just make her the trial judge!!!! please l&o i can be your continuity person, you need one]

HAHAHA i've had SO many laughs with my roommates (we watch the show every week anyway and play a drinking game called "Claw & Order" named after the White Claw seltzer) about Price (no hate to Price fans, he's just not my cup of tea) doing bizarre things or totally bungling cases. maybe he's "the best" because he screws up royally in nearly every episode and then still wins almost every case???

i would LOVE to see Linus come back as DA Mike, i could definitely see him as being more of a hardliner compared to the revival's characterization of Jack (when they feel compelled to write him any dialogue, lol). (and i wouldn't mind seeing him rake Price over the coals hehehe. i can't tell you how many times Price gets reticent about prosecuting or something and i'm just like "Mike would be foaming at the mouth right now LET IM AT EM")

for the record, long (or short) asks about l&o are ALWAYS welcome!!! i feel like i'm just finding the l&o contingent on tumblr (especially the seasons 18-20 gang) so it's always a blast to chat about it with people who clearly know their stuff and have great takes.

once again, here's to earnest civil servants!!! (i made this gif for the last ask you sent in to lawandordersource and i feel like i'm already getting a return on my investment hahaha)

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[connie-rubirosa]

Hi. I only started followig you (and your lawandordersource blog) very recently, but I just wanted to thank you for gifing the OG series. Thank you so much.

Hey!! Oh my goodness, thank you so much for these incredibly kind words!!! I know the fandom on tumblr is smaller than it has been in the past, but it's literally my fave show of all time so I'm glad that other people have been enjoying the content too (btw I always love reading your tags on your reblogs! :) ).

I actually was on a giffing/content hiatus for a couple of years (i got distracted with college stuff and then the world exploded and for some reason i went to grad school ????) and only recently have i found the work/life balance to return to it, but i remember in my early giffing days i'd be so concerned about note count and how many followers i had and blah blah blah blah, all stuff that really doesn't matter.

giffing for l&o (since it's a smaller fandom on tumblr) has taught me to gif because i love something and not because it will get attention or reblogs or whatever, and that's the true beauty of making this stuff! now i make it because i like it and enjoy doing it, and if it makes at least one person happy, then it's worth it.

so truly, this comment means the world to me, because it means that the stuff i make does make at least somebody out there smile a little (whether that's our eyeroll queen abbie carmichael, detective cutie patootie ed green, or poor little meow meow mike cutter), and that really does make it all worth it.

you probably didn't want that whole rambling response, but i just wanted to let you know how much i appreciate this comment. thanks for being here, and i'm always down to chat l&o! :)

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