#lynz hate

[earlycuntsets]

they tried to tell ya'll in 2008. are you over it yet?

X

#lynz way #unfollow if you hate lynz #my chemical romance #gerard way #mcr #2008 scans #not my scans

[metallicaslut]

I wanna be able to wear guy liner the way guys wear guy liner. It's just not the same on me.

#i hate being a woman #lynz hot take of the night

[swollenanddisfigured]

If u hate Lynz more than u hate Jimmy, there is fr something wrong with u lol

#mindless self indulgence #lynz way #lynz ballato #jimmy urine #steve righ #msi #my chemical romance #gerard way #lynz did petty shit while Jimmy literally r@ped kids #Jimmy deserves all the hate Lynz has got

[bmbthistrack]

"fucked up shit" is jimmy urines middle name

this is true it is the entirety of the bands middle name except kitty. thank you for being normal about everything ever kitty.

#anyways yeah I don’t hate lynz I’ve had the biggest crush on her since I was like 12

[vampystake]

what kind of couple takes a jfk photoshoot

#mcr #honestly slay #as much as i hate lynz #man they look great… #shhh that slay was too loud #vampy.com

[raytorosaurus]

Remaining anonymous for this but I’m sure they’ll know it’s me if they lurk around 😭

I unfollowed them (but they still followed me) after you made their post about them (which I didn’t see until earlier but I’m glad I did) but didn’t think about blocking them until I saw the tag of your most recent post saying that they were transphobic and I had no idea!! I blocked them straight away after I saw that-transphobia isn’t welcomed here

Anyways this is just me saying thanks cause I had no idea about any of this and feel bad for following in the first place. Ngl their posts were starting to get…theoretical (if that’s the right word) to the point where it’s ridiculous and a bit unsettling. I mostly just ignored the posts whenever they were on my feed, but your post made me feel comfortable with the way I was feeling and I’m glad to say I’ve unfollowed them and blocked them. Hopefully all of what I just said made sense lol

Anyways thanks for opening my eyes a bit more and making me feel comfortable with the way I was feeling :)

#sorry anon i was gonna respond to this seriously but im too busy #but good for you! #serious tinhatting in general is always uncomfortable in terms of like. it's disrespectful and invasive but mainly just dumb #bc it relies on a fundamentally self-centered and reductive worldview that prioritises projection above like. minding ur own business #not 2 mention the assumption that u can understand strangers' emotions thru some kind of distanced empathy is. just wrong. & disrespectful. #but the shit ppl like ode2 (in any fandom) do is on a whole other level of actively spreading hate #ode2 in particular is actively misogynistic and transphobic AND also manages to be really weird about gay men #& nothing makes me more mad than when they pretend to care abt the problematic things lynz has said just to justify their irrational hatred #when the real reasons they actually hate her are not the valid ones and just the ones they've made up #and built their weird web of barely comprehensible conspiracy theories around #not to mention their whole shit is so offensive to frank lsakfjkdjsndn???? u claim to love him but think so little of him? #anyway. it's weirdly easy to fall down rsbbitholes like this anon so im happy to hear you got aware of that!! <3 #answered

[milfygerard]

Oh shit I found this

http://www.imnotokay.net/board/topic/13384/43/

....okay? this is a meaningless and relatively mild thread of someone recapping their msi show and then some pastebin pics. im not quite sure what it is you're "oh shit"ing at.

#ask #anonymous #is it the mild shock humor mentioned? #or am i misreading the tone and ur an msi fan bc either way i am not the account to come to #i like a good bit of MSIs music but dont and havent particularly cared about the band in a long time #i dont hate lindsey and think shes mistreated by the fandom but also #dont blame people who dont like her for her connection to msi or her past racism #like this is seriously one of the most mild links ive ever sent. i dont even know what im mesnt to be reacting to other than lynz being hot #and 2000s era shock rock antics #sorry for using the tags on your ask to state my stance on msi. if you send me any asks abt msi or lynz i will delete them #id rsther kill myself than get involved in one of the stupidest and most harmful slap fights in the mcr fandom

[graveyardmouth]

are we seriously getting into hating lynz way again

#guys you know whatever you can say about lynz in terms of gross stuff you can also say about gerard right #you know youre just doing a misogyny if you hate lynz for doing the same shit gerard has right. right. #im not pretending what shes done isnt gross im just saying all the band guys i like have fucked up and holding her to a higher standard is #fucked up #also like. why do you hate someone for being friends with lynz but you dont hate gerard for literally being married to her???? #bug shut up

[gerardpilled]

You know I think the lynz situation is stupid too and I also think a lot of people lie and make mistakes and Lynz could be one of them so it’s not a big deal. like when she said she’s from India, she might have been misinformed but even if it was a lie, it’s not like she appropriated a whole culture and committed identity theft. Also who can blame her for being mean to the mcr fans that literally hated her? All this aside she’s a public figure. We don’t know if even Gerard is a good person so I think it’s stupid to say she’s bad. We don’t know for sure. All this aside tho, I think some people on tumblr overdo the “lynz is a good person” thing. She could be, but she’s still in that band for all we know. That in on itself should put a bad taste in your mouth. Like you can’t just watch someone say all that stuff. I think that’s a fair criticism that people ignore. It doesn’t have to be a black “she’s horrible” and white “she’s a saint” kinda situation.

I completely agree. She’s definitely done things that have given me pause and if I knew her in my real social life I probably would not want to hang out with her but then again I don’t think I would want to be best buddies with Gerard either 😭 like you said I don’t see the value in assigning black and white morality to people we don’t know especially regarding situations that have not been made very public.

[girlgerard]

Not defending the hate you're receiving or misogyny but Lynz has a history of aggressive racism including being antiblack, race faking, and being involved in MSI's violent racism as well as being friends with and defending a convicted child rapist (Jimmy Urine, lead of MSI which she willingly was and is still a member of). So the hate she gets is very much warranted.

did you not just hear me say i don’t like her? once again brown people should not be the ones defending her but i guess we’re the only ones being reasonable about this. i don’t like her, she makes me uncomfortable, there are legitimate reasons to dislike her. however, she is also not the devil incarnate nor does she deserve harm to her or her relationships. i’m SPECIFICALLY talking about the insane misogyny she’s subjected to. i promise you 80% of the criticism of her on twitter is by white people who want to find a reason to hate a rockstar’s wife, not by people who actually want to listen to poc.

#like you guys do remember that frank and gerard ALSO vocally supported msi. and yet

[jerseymuppet]

This is a bigger, more nuanced issue than most people will be capable of handling but I’m so tired man. I’m not saying you need to find Pete Wentz innocent or even like the guy, I’m just asking you to think critically and acknowledge that there might be a reason why this is happening to one of the only black men in the scene.

And before anyone says ‘I didn’t know he was Black’ or ‘that’s not common knowledge’ I need you to know that I see you. I see you jokingly call him other black celebrities names (because that’s always so funny) and I saw you when you shared a link to a article that used uncomfortably racist language in reference to him as proof (cushioned lips?? Call him mammy why don’t you?) or when he wore his hair natural and people called him a monkey. I saw you. Me and all the other brown people here. We saw you. I’m not stupid, I know you know. I’m done letting the schrodingers nigger shit slide, I’m not gonna let you guys claim him as white when it’s convenient for you to be excused of racism. Your words about someone who looked like us made our little baby selves—bright eyed and so happy to find somewhere we belonged, same as you—hate ourselves. I hated looking like Ray Toro, because he was princess fro fro and you all said it in the most derogatory way possible that even he thought he was ugly. And I hated looking like Pete wentz and I hated looking like travie mccoy and I hated being black and I hated being myself. And it was this scene, that’s supposed to be for outcasts and the people that didn’t fit in but god forbid you don’t fit the mold of white with Christian/catholic trauma.

I’m a victim of grooming myself, and I understand that sometimes you don’t have evidence or you don’t want to talk about it and that’s okay! But I’m also black, and I remember being a kid and watching everyone and I mean everyone throw Pete Wentz under the bus because he was an easy target. Everyone did it. He was one of the biggest names in the and he was mentally ill and black and spiraling. This whole situation hasn’t sat right with me from the beginning. No one talks about brendon urie being a predator, and I see plenty of ryden shippers on my dash still. No one talks about Gerard way and Eliza cuts. I know you people don’t actually care about this poor girl. This is all just clicks and clout and notes for you, and it’s so obvious considering all of the people I’ve seen posting negative things about Pete are self confessed misandrists and Lynz stans and waycest shippers.

But what do I know.

#I’m probably gonna regret this but I honestly don’t care #I wish someone had spoken up when I was a kid and I can now so I will #if you disagree with whether of not Pete did it that’s cool! I just hope you examined your biases and really thought about everything #idk man I’m just tired #jude.txt #fob #pete wentz #ask to tag

[gerardwhore]

Dear people who hate LynZ…. Why????????? (Don’t say because you like frerard I swear)

#lynz way #mcr #gerard #mcr gerard #mcr5 #lynz

[awsugar]

Do you think some personal fall out may have happened amongst the band? We heard a lot about the planned doc and planned book, as well as mcr booking studio space for a new album. Then absolutely nothing. And Frank has went full unapologetically LS Dunes. Idk it feels reminiscent of 2012, which makes me incredibly sad. I think the wives content after the tour indicates there may be beef. All the wives seem so close and L was conspicuously absent

no i don’t think that at all, frank referred to my chem as a “full time” band in his most recent podcast interview, and they have festivals announced for next year alresdy, there will undoubtedly be more festivals announced, and most likely a tour for 2025 or this summer?? 2 festival performances 10 months from now does not a full time band make. and i also don’t think they would be doing wwwy if they weren’t planning on doing More than that. so no, i don’t think there’s any beef. even if there was, why not sell the book. lynz being absent from the public eye is because the fans hate her ass.

#anonymous #asks

[mcrredacteddeadove]

GOD I FUCKING HATE LYNZ TOO BRO 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 but uhhhh remember that one time she said smth about Gerard being like having nine inch long dick???? Am I delusional or did that happen??? If you could find the tweet pls show it 😭 -📼

WHAT WHAT WHAT

i hate lynz but oh my god thank god for her sharing that

#not really a redacted i think #📼 anon

[sunnyh8smsi]

Supporting a racist isn't as progressive as you think.

⚠⚠⚠⚠BIG BIG BIG DISCLAIMER

DO NOT HARARSS THE USER MENTIONED.

IF YOU HARASS THE ACCOUNT MENTIONED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO PUBLICALLY SHAME YOU. THAT ISN'T A JOKE, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR MORE FUCKING BULLYING ON THIS SITE. THIS POST IS NOT HATEFUL BUT A CALLOUT AND CRITQUE OF A POPULAR USER.

So I decided I wanted to start my tumblr presence with a bang. Or at least in the fact that IK at least someone will get big mad over this, but I simply don't care. Here's some background before this post continues about the subjects of this post:

A popular blog on here that has gotten on my nerves a few times with how blatantly performative she is, girlgerard, who I will refer to as GG.(she/him) (hello from your search mentions, I don't come in peace)

And the subject she talks about, Lyn-z Way, bass 'player' of the racist band MSI, and wife of girlgerard's fave, Gerard Way. (Lynz-she/her, Gerard- he/they) So with that background, you might be asking, 'yo! how do these people connect at all?' That is very valid to ask. Girlgerard is a person who stans Gerard way so much that if he were criticism or critique. Therefore as someone who stans G Way he stands Lyn-z, and even defended Lyn-z. (Plus made a weird comment about their relationship) First as a brief mention about Lyn-z, it is public knowledge in the MCR space, that she is apart of the Band MSI, who's lead singer says the N-word in multiple songs, and is an alleged pedophile. Lyn-z has also race faked very publicly, on twitter. So with that being said, you can tell why people dislike Lyn-z, she's pretty much an all around POS.

Instead of recognizing his fave's wife is a bad person, while still liking Gerard, GG has weaponized Lyn-z's queerness and womanhood to excuse, or at the very least diminish, Lyn-z's racism. Saying that people attack her because they're misoginistic, and listing reasons in this photo below (alt text in image description)

Yes, I know that is a lot to cover, but I will break it down, and why I disagree with her, in simple chunks.

1. From what I've seen and experienced on twitter, most people do not like her because she is racist/race faked. I remember once instance where someone made a very uncouth joke about harming Lyn-z, which was also very sexist, and people that called out her before went after, reported and called them out immediately. 2. A nit pick, GG did not have to mention he was Indian in the first post for the anons sending vile messages to her part to have an impact.

3. No one gives a shit that you want Gerard to be happy. People do give a shit that you have defended a literal racist. And yk, maybe the mentioning of ethnicity plays an unintended ironic role. It makes no sense you defend her.

4. Being weirdly sexual. I get it you were being sarcastic about the pegging line, but there is a trend about these oddly sexual jokes that I will bring up later in the post.

5. Lyn-z has said mentioned was a fan of a transphobic, antisemitic, and racist drag queen, Sharon Needles, a few times, it is valid for people to call her a transphobe, or a terf, with how white girl feminist she is, because of that. A specific instance of her supporting this drag queen was a photo she posted on twitter in 2012.

6.A queer person can be homophobic. Queer people might have a lot of internalized homophobia, or even might be homophobic themselves. We see this a lot in the queer community, as an example, with how bisexuals are treated, and queer people who have been brainwashed by homophobic rhetoric. Do I think Lyn-z is homophobic? Most probably she is not. She toured with a queer man for years and has claimed to be bisexual herself, but I do see how someone can see her as homophobic without that context. If you as a brown person think you should not be defending her, don't defend her. Racism halts any exception.

7.It doesn't matter that people do not know Lyn-z, if she has affected them negatively. Lyn-z has done a lot for people to dislike her, defended a pedo, supported racist and antisemitic bands and people, be a performative feminist, a performative anti-racist, race fake, and more. It is not misogynistic to dislike her for those reasons, even if they don't know her. I promise none of that correlates to her womanhood, except for her using her white woman tears to defend herself on twitter.

8.There is nothing vitriol about valid critique and distain of her behavior. 9.There was and is genuine discussion and intent for discussion about racial dynamics, assuming you didn't just put that phrase in there to sound smart. People call her out because of how she uses her whiteness, and even womanhood, to appropriate other cultures and defend her racism in MSI. (By the womanhood example I mean her saying things on twitter, I'm paraphrasing with this, like 'what would I do if my daughter google searches her mother and sees all these horrible things about her', which she was referring to call outs about Jimmy and MSI, not misogyny.)

It seems GG views Lyn-z not as a person to be judged on her own merits, but to be judged on his bias of Gerard. She brings joy to Gerard, so she can't be critiqued, because Gerard can't be critiqued. Some strong cognitive dissonance is going on here. Although she has mentioned she isn't the biggest fan of Lyn-z, he fangirls over photos, and defends her Lyn-z because Gerard is in the equation.

Not only fangirling, but defending. Again only because he views her as an asset to Gerard.

There is a lot of things wrong with this post. A lot. Once again I will break it down into manageable chunks. 1.First of all, what's with this 'kys anons' thing? Seems hypocritical...

2.Gerard is GNC, but has never mentioned being trans. It seems from a lot of GG's posts that she uses a lot of gender essentialism to support the fact that he views Gerard as a trans-femme. Using the fact Gerard wore skirts to call him a Girl in various ways, just feels demeaning to Gerard's explicit statements that he does not want to be assumed about. Gerard might not fit gender norms, but that doesn't mean he identifies with the trans label.

GNC ≠ Trans

3.The use of dyke. Calling a couple dykes just because you think they are a lesbian couple is extremely homophobic. Calling someone a slur in general is extremely hateful, and this is situation seems like fetishization of trans lesbians. I had mentioned before that I feel some of GG's posts feel sexual in an off kilter way, this is one of them. Referring to the couple as just terms like femme4femme without the couple being lesbian in any remote way feels like she's searching up a porn category.

I know GG backtracked on some posts, idk if this one in general, saying it's all just a joke, but calling someone a slur and misgendering them is simply not funny. (plus GG to this day refers to Gerard, (and sometimes Ray) as a woman, uses she/her, calls her girl, etc. The 'its just a joke' statement was just to save his ass from people getting mad she misgendered and sexualized them. It's never just a joke.)

So why write all this?

Girlgerard has made a few posts recently focused on helping out poc, but only using the most basic ways of helping people out, in the short term. And barely addressing the actual racism that change our racist system that keeps poc in poverty. Instead of promoting things that will cause long term change on top of the short term.

It's very hypocritical that he want's to help other poc out but supports a racist, and has called other minorities, that suffer from this system, slurs.

In conclusion, girlgerard's support of Lyn-z shows how he actively will excuse Racist, Homophobic, and antisemitic people if her fave loves that person.

ONCE AGAIN THIS ISN'T AN INVITATION TO HARASS GIRLGERARD⚠⚠⚠

#gerard way #girlgerard #tw msi #tw d slur #no way lynz way #tw homophobia mention #tw antisemitism mention #tw racism mention #tw suibaiting #tw sexualization mention #tw suicide threats mention #if i get random anons telling me to kms istg i wont be surprised its happened to other ppl calling gg out #msi is racist therefore lynz is #get out of your echochamber

[raytorosaurus]

pls tell me you don't think disliking lynz is misogynistic lol i must've misinterpreted that

nope! it's totally fine to dislike lynz, i also don't like her myself. she's said some very questionable things and MSI grosses me out, as does her association with jimmy urine. i already know people will want to take this the wrong way so i want to make it clear that i'm not defending any of that. i'm pointing out an irritating mindless pattern of behaviour in this fandom that is immature and reductive at best and misogynistic at worst, which includes:

1. the intensity of the vitriol that is directed at her being disproportionate to most of the men ppl blog about who have done/said similar, if not much worse, things. and honestly in a lot of cases disproportionate to what she's actually done

2. the fact that i see so many people (especially on twitter) blindly jumping on the bandwagon of hating on her often without knowing what exactly it is they're hating her for - and even then, most of the reasons i see parrotted on twitter are either contextless and overexaggerated or not even one of the aforementioned valid reasons for disliking her. i don't know how to tell you this but if you believe everything on lynzuglyliar you need to reevaluate how you engage with information on the internet lol

3. the level of glee with which people hate on her, which truly smacks of old-school fandom misogyny reserved for women who marry your faves or get in the way of your favourite ship. on twitter especially it honestly truly feels like people are delighted to have a wife of the band they're "allowed" to hate on lol. i know a lot of that is coming from teenagers who will grow up and learn more self-awareness but that doesn't make it any less annoying or disappointing to see

4. the ridiculous mental gymnastics required to hate her so much while continuing to be a fan of the person who is married to her and in love with her lmao. sorry but if you truly think she's that irredeemable why are you still here

like. i hate msi and i go out of my way to avoid listening to them. but it's worth keeping in mind that the kind of shock-jock edgy gross music they wrote was not exclusive to msi in the 2000s. i hate it too and think it's stupid and counterproductive to whatever point it's supposedly trying to make but it was like. a thing for a while unfortunately. it was bad at the time and it aged even worse, but gerard and frank at the very least, and probably the others too, vocally enjoyed it. frank voluntarily chose to tour with msi and mcr performed with them multiple times and were always excited about it. if you truly think lynz's involvement with that band is indefensible, you should extend at least part of that criticism to mcr too. the amount of times i've seen people saying "omg frank hates lynz so much" is fucking ridiculous, and it's based entirely on the same kind of conjecture that led people to believe mcr didn't remain close friends after the breakup lol. if you have to make up things like that - or worse, make up and spread infidelity rumours or actual domestic abuse allegations (it's not even rare to see this on twitter) - to excuse their association with lynz/msi, you need to take a look at yourself tbh

this is partly a twitter-specific problem because that platform is literally set up to disallow meaningful or nuanced conversation but it's really exhausting to see hundreds of snippy "she's the devil" tweets and if you say anything vaguely critical of the the way fandom treats her you get immediately shot down with "why are you defending A Racist" with zero context or clarification. i hate to break it to you but if lynz is A Racist of an irredeemable level, so is gerard. hell, so is frank for blindly listening to and promoting black metal bands with nazi associations when he as a metal fan should know better and do his research. lynz's racism in question is the kind that's overwhelmingly common among liberal white women who are into witchcraft-type stuff. again, i am not condoning it, it's still wrong, but you cannot hold her to different standards than you do the guys in mcr. i'm just saying if you're able to acknowledge gerard's questionable statements and attitudes in the past, condemn them, acknowledge that he's changing and learning, but still go on liking him as a person and supporting his art...what is the reason you can't do the same for lynz.

i've seen people on twitter accuse lynz of plagiarism in an impressively tone-deaf misinterpretation of her art genre, sometimes the same people who would call gerard doing something similar a clever reference. i have literally seen people quote male members of MSI making sexually objectifying and openly misogynistic comments about lynz as some kind of gotcha saying "look, even her bandmates don't respect her" and like...if you can't see something deeply wrong with that i don't know what to tell you. i've seen COUNTLESS people bring up vague information "revealed" by her actual estranged family members on twitter after people stalked them to try to get dirt on lynz and if you think parroting back contextless one-sided information from other people's private family drama isn't a) about the least reliable source of information ever and b) deeply disgusting and inappropriate, i really don't know what to tell you

if you despise lynz to the point where you're in mcr's comments telling gerard to divorce her (again. i shouldn't have to say that this is disgusting behaviour) or booing when they perform summertime or accusing her of infidelity or abuse (which i cannot stress enough are rumours originally made up by frerard tinhatters) or anything like that, why are you even here. like what mental gymnastics are you doing to be able to remain a fan of gerard at this point. none of this is activism, if anything it's counterproductive to your point because it's indicative of the lack of critical thinking or maturity that's necessary when you're engaging with topics like casual/unconscious racism and normalised sexual abuse in the music industry

i'm probably not going to say more about this because this isn't really the hill i want to die on considering i don't even particularly like her myself but please i am begging you approach your dislike of lynz with just a little bit of critical thought and self-awareness instead of just blindly despising her for things that most of the men we blog about are also guilty of.

#the 'you' in here is the royal you im not accusing you specifically of all these things anon #i don't know what to tag this lol #answered #okay now back to fun times i habe pixels to stare at