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[The gang are playing Mario Party 2] [Robin grabs Elro and carries him to the pipe] Mina: Come on, Elro! Come on, Elro! No, please, no...NOOOOOOOO! [Robin grabs Royal and carries him to the pipe] Mina: Come on, Royal! Come on... Robin: He's not mashing. Elro: Wait, you're not mashing. Royal: I AM MASHING! It's the 'B' button, right? Mina and Elro: Mina and Elro: 'A' BUTTON!!! Elro: Oh my God! Mina: YOU BOZO AND A HALF! Oh my Inti! Royal: Yes, I was purposefully mashing 'B' so I could go get some snacks. Elro: I need to play this with new people. I seriously need to play this game with other people. Robin: [laughs] [Finally, Robin grabs Mina and carries her to the pipe] Mina: PLEASE! DROP ME, YOU FIEND! [Robin drops Mina into the pipe] Mina: AAAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!
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forestdragoncat · 4 years
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Finished Iconoclasts recently, and really enjoyed it!
But i disliked the Midway section, where Robin must leave Royal behind to escape from base, and it is said that it would be impossible for both of them to do so, except... from story-point (but not gameplay, apparently), it should be? I mean, seriously? A broken door-sensor?! I have read a lot of suggestions from fanbase how this could have been resolved (myself i thought about the seeds - i mean, it DID work when Robin first met Mina, so there is a 50/50 chance?), so this doesn't look very convincing to me (and to be completely honest, Royal is my fave, so his demise was pretty heartbreaking to me)
However!
I understand the importance of this scene to Robin (and player), "you can't save everyone" and all that. So, i thought about this alternative scenario:
What if Robin could have saved Royal? Let's say our brilliant mechanic could fix this stupid sensor, but it would be time consuming in some way (like, she would need to bring some heavy boxes from the other side of the base to press sensor to wall with. Or something like that), and in result Robin and Royal would only barely make it to the Saviorb.
(And Robin would probably need Featherweight tweak, so theoretically this whole scenario could work on New Game +? Fine by me, you couldn't get a True Pacifist ending in Undertale from your first run either, for example).
Royal is still under the effects of mind ray, but hey, he is alive, right? It all worked, we are the champions!
Except when Robin (with still unresponsive magic man shimmerfingers, which slowes her running) makes it to her home (Saviorb landed farther from it, because Robin had little time to enter needed coordinates)... Elro is gone.
He saw the moon explosion, then the Starworm landing, but his sunflower is nowhere to be seen! Did she perished as well?!
Considering Elro's mental (and physical) state, his strangely low faith in Robin (i mean, it takes her literally beating Him for Elro to accept sunflower's competence!), and the fact that he failed to sabotage his sister's suicidal mission, and now he can't even spend the world's last hours with his last remaining family member... this is the last straw for him. And the first chance Teegan's, Gustavo's and Mina's backs are turned (first two could have left already by that time, after providing medical assistance. Though this is a tricky part, yes), he does the ultimate act of desperation.
And it all could have been prevented, if Robin arrived just a few minutes earlier (as it goes in canon).
Meeting Mina goes differently too, she woud probably hear some impact noice and meet Robin and Royal halfway to the house and possibly saves them from some trouble. And then group arrives home and angst ensues.
After some grieving Robin would leave Royal at home and go kick Starworm's tail, as in canon.
Some bonus points for this scenario:
- Player would (most likely) see both resolutions, because you cannot have Featherweight before Midway in the first run (so yes, in the first run your enemies are stupid tall boxes instead of stupid door sensor), and have some choice in the matter;
- It can be left ambiguous if Royal would eventually shake off mind ray's effects (as it is ambiguous if Elro will ever overcome his PTSD in canon, i think), but there would be hope;
- In both scenarious you couldn't save everyone, so the plot point still stands?
What do you all think? Is it too OOC? Or would you like to have something like this in the game?
P.S. I do not hate Elro, i am merely frustrated with him. And i would rather have a full happy ending where everyone lives, but if ending still needs to be bittersweet...
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Mina: This is all your fault, silver boy! I'm gonna pluck you up, melt you down, and make a necklace!
Royal: Yeah, I probably deserve it.
Mina: ...Oh, wait, shit. You don't make this fun 'cause you're sad.
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Royal: There's a tree... In the forest.
Mina: No way! A tree? In the forest?
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[As Robin, Mina, Royal and Elro plan to launch the rocket] Royal: This is either madness or brilliance. Mina: It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide.
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*Robin enters the weapons store*
Hans the Arms Dealer: We're having a SALE!
Mina, imitating Hans: "We're having a SALE!"
Royal: And there it is.
Robin: Yep, sure is!
Hans: Which one do you want?
Mina: "Which one do you want, in the SALE? You can't afford things in my SALE!"
Robin: I sure can't... *sighs* Dang, oh well. *proceeds to draw her weapon*
Mina: "You wanna ROB me? We're having a ROBBERY SALE! Everything is free, if you're good at Ro Sham Bo!"
Robin: Oh boy...
Royal: The sign turns to 100% OFF.
Mina: "You wanna ROB me? I told you we were having a SALE! Why would you do it when we're having a SALE? You're already getting a discount. Do you know how much money I had to cut off to do this SALE? My wife is on me right now, and she keeps shouting because I keep giving away stuff!"
*Robin goes for Ro Sham Bo, but loses as Hans beats her with rock vs. scissors*
Royal: The best thing was that he did the fist.
Mina: And now he is PUNCHING YOU TO DEATH!
Robin: *gets kicked out of the shop, resulting in a bounty on her head* Wanted: This woman with a duck hat.
Mina: Wanted: This duck. Mechanic included.
Royal: I'd love to see the reaction of the police who had to draw that wanted poster.
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Royal, Scrolling On His Phone: Someone said to blend the chicken.
Mina, Holding a Whole Raw Chicken: Oh SHIT! Someone's a genius!
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Royal: Trust me, I'm your friend now.
Mina: Friends don't stab each other in the back!
Royal: Sure they do! The One Concern does it all the time back in City One.
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Royal: I promise not to run off with them. I owe you that much.
Elro: What for?
Royal: [hands Elro a receipt]
Elro: Is this...for room service?
Royal and Mina: [nervous chuckling]
Elro: YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT YOU OWE ME!!! [throws them out the window]
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Royal: I guess you can say the One Concern works against the psychological entropy of civilians.
Mina: What the hell does that even mean? Isn't that just...stress?
Royal: Psychological entropy. The deterioration of one's mental state.
Mina:
Mina: So...stress.
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Elro: What's gone wrong, Mina?
Mina: Hey! That's one hell of a thing to say to a person. Just because I'm calling doesn't mean there's a crisis.
Elro: That's technically true, I suppose. Why are you calling?
Mina: Well... There's a crisis.
Elro: [sigh] What did Royal do?
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Royal: *SCREAMS*
Mina, From Far Away: Some girl's in trouble!
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Mina: Is your Ivory power thingy going to do something?
Royal: Yes.
Mina: Should I be standing further away?
Royal: ...Probably.
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Elro: You can't absorb the Ivory of an entire One Concern headquarters building. It would kill you!
Mina: Only if I die.
Royal: Yeah... that's what killing you means.
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Mina: I think it's fucked up that there are plants that decided they want to eat meat.
Mina: A plant's job is to literally just exist, but the venus flytrap chose violence.
Royal: The soil it's in doesn't have enough vitamins and nutrients so it has to survive.
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Mina: If I cut my foot off and threw it at you, would I be kicking you or hitting you?
Royal: You'd mentally scar me more than anything.
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