#misogny m

[inanotherworldarling]

I 100% agree with all the critiques about Kairi being underwritten and not getting enough to do, I really really do- but she does still have fun aspects to her, she's a kind friend, she actually has a tiny bit of a mean streak if you pay attention, which is very funny and she's cute to boot so it always makes me laugh when I see people act like she's irredeemably bland or bad especially since I've seen KH fans build all sorts of fanon lore and interesting takes for barely present side characters... Characters who really /are/ bland.... Maybe the issue isn't always Kiari, is all I'm saying.

#literally every fandom i go through theres a popular m/m ship and any girl who goes near either dude in that ship is eviscerated #its a bit obvious whats happening #everyone just couches it in progressive language now but its usually misogny lbr #Like genuine critiques are fine!! #and if you just dont like her thats also fine!! #sometimes you dont vibe a character #you dont have to pretend at all #but i have seen some particular nasty takes about kiari and it usually is a bit on the nose is all im saying lmao #anyway <:) uhhh yeah

[bardessofcerridwen]

This dickwad's posts are literally nothing but how women should be subservient to men. Block and report his sorry gross face.

#misogny #fuck the patriarchy #I wanna throw up #Gary M. Parcel #he has 4 kids #I hope he doesn't have daughters

[sitephi]

No 'allo' who is a normal individual thinks this.

#i do all this w my friends and they do to what r you talking about...... #people mostly do this w m/f couples and thats because of misogny not 'allos' #bc.people think men and women cant be friends

[olderthannetfic]

Whenever I see people acting like m/m fandoms invented misogny, I just know that they've clearly never been in a fandom for a piece of media that had a prominent love triangle, particularly with 2 girls in love with the same guy. The horrors I have seen...

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[pinene]

that what shesaid

I;m tired of your misogny.

[evenstarfalls]

this is the least hinged i've felt in awhile anyways vengeful part 3 ascension

DOMINIC HI

"dominic in his camoflage as human"

oh god this part is such a good reminder of how shitty EON is too. locking people in cages. not trying to help them, just to contain them and use them. just reading it I can feel Dom's panic it's terrible i feel so bad for him.

Dominic Alexander Rusher

June stop alluding to your backstory it's making me curious

Marcella is such a girlboss

well at least Eli knows he's mad

it's so funny how marcella blames misogny for all her struggles with taking over the city and destroying everyone in her way. I mean there's definitely misogyny but that's not the only reason. personally i like to blame homophobia for things i don't like

YOU GO JUNE

poor jonathan royce :(

i think i would have liked ian campbell to live. but he was too noble for this story of villains

marcella bringing down the warehouse...iconic

Sydney keeping bits of Serena around is so morbid. travel-size dead sister

her personal shopper 💀

marcella has an exceptional amount of things wrong with her.

vicious and vengeful work very well together. eli and victor's relationship reflects itself; the active focus on taking the other down switches. even which one dies at the end. i want to know how a third book will interact with that dynamic. they've each had their arc. what do they do now? together?

noo june baby don't tell marcella about victor

giggling i love seeing victor from someone else's eyes it's so fun like that's my creepy fucked up guy

u go sydney

F I X M E

Merit PD's strange shit alarm

GIGGLING AND SQUEALING AND SHAKING THIS JUST. AAAH. EELI SEEING THE PICTURE OF VICTOR. THIS PROBABLY SNHOULDNT MAKE ME SO HAPPY BUT IT MAKES ME SO. GIDDY GODDAMNIT

oh yes the bait

why did Mitch complaining about his luck make me think of Bad Luck from Phineas and Ferb

"almost a family" victor and sydney and mitch are already a family you wanna join?

god this book. victoria schwab never fails to awakw some very distressing emotions in me. why am i so invested in the characters. i jsutl ove them so much and they're all evil and gkjkvLKJ finishing it tomorrow?

#vengeful #villains #villains series #ve schwab #victoria schwab #villains duology #victor vale #eli ever #marcella riggins #marcella morgan #dominic rusher #sydney clarke

[i-write-shakespeare-not-disney]

Is it the ones that don't character assassinate the best girl (Uraraka)?! Iswtfg, why people do her so dirty to get her out of the way of any M/M Deku ship doesn't only reek of internalized misogny but makes zero sense.

She's not just a love interest but his best friend! Like, other than the full "hurt him, I hurt you" not-a-threat-but-a-promise, she'd prolly be chill about it and want him to be happy.

Luckily I haven't seen any of these be mean to uraraka but oh my god?????

Uraraka deserves better u.u

First of all I really love the idea of her and bakugo being training buddies bc he like. Respects the hell out of her (it was a whole thinggggg)

I also like the idea of mlm wlw solidarity between uraraka and those two.

Idk I love uraraka so much and I'm glad I haven't come across any fics that make her mean or malicious u.u

[michaels-reality]

jsaghka whats wrong with ok ko?

Okay so I will spoil the whole main plot of the series with it but there are 3 main problems I’m gonna get into with this series and it’s problems with character design, jokes on child neglect, and ableism with system caricatures. And this is coming from someone who enjoys the show before anyone thinks I’m just hating to hate on it. But again, these issues are so big for me that I would not recommend this show to anyone skjhskjf.

1. Issues with character design

Alright, so first off, please look at this picture of the majority of the women of the show and tell me what’s wrong with it?

Yeah! Almost all of them have the exact same body type! I’ve seen people praise ok ko with its diverse character design but if you boil it down, almost all the women have the same cinched waist and big hips. And for the characters the characters that do have different body types, it's almost unfair to compare them to the rest of the characters, like you can’t compare Carol to Rippy Roo because Rippy Roo is an actual animal. And you can’t compare Dendy to Enid, because Dendy is a child and Enid is a teenager. And for the Ladies that have an actual difference in body type, that’s like 6 characters out of how many? And to those characters that have different body types, the Hue Troops only show up for 2 episodes and even then the main focus isn’t on them so they barely get any screen time, Punching Trudy shows up for one episode to fight Punching Judy, Pheobe shows up for 7 episodes but she’s a background character and I don’t ever remember her speaking, and then there’s Foxtail. Foxtail is probably the only female character that has a different body type that has an important role in the story and shows up for more than just background appearances.

Compared to the men in the show, there is way more diversity but even then, there is a lot of making the upper half of them bigger and giving them tiny hips and legs. 

There is also the issue that kinda pisses me off is the racial ambiguity of everyone. Like most of the characters aren’t even human so whatever, but there are characters like enid that have darker skin but she has straight purple hair so what are we supposed to get from that? I mean, I guess there is some wiggle room for anyone that isn’t white to claim her but then you start to see that all these darker skinned characters seem to always have straight hair and that’s also a problem. The only character I can confidently say is black is foxtail and she has straight hair. And the only character that is said to have curls and an afro is RADICLES who is BLUE and an ALIEN! Like it makes me mad that our curly haired and black coded character is designed like this. Like, I get it, he’s an alien, he’s blue, he’s not human, BUT WHY DID HE HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONE? WHY CAN’T THERE BE ANOTHER CHARACTER WHO IS DARKER SKINNED AND CURLY HAIRED? 

It’s so ironic given that ok ko has one of the BEST racism metaphors I’ve ever seen in episode 28. Dendy says kappas don’t need pow cards to be heros but it feels nice to be appreciated but this show is not making me feel very appreciated right now sjglksjgds.

2. Jokes about child neglect/abuse

OKAY! BOXMAN! I LOVE BOXMAN BUT WHAT THE FUCK?

Okay, so in the show, Lord Boxman has robot minions that he is constantly annoyed with the performance of and punishes them and yells at them. AND I WOULDN’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS IF BOXMAN DIDN’T REFER TO THEM AS HIS CHILDREN! It’s shown in the show that Boxman raised them as baby robots and they call him daddy and they have a very familial relationship. But it’s constantly joked about with Boxman saying how they never make him proud not taken seriously in the show. Like, in the second episode, one of the first things we see Boxman do is put Darrel in the furnace and Darrel says “I deserve this” BUT DON’T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY CUS DARREL IS A ROBOT AND HE’S BACK 2 SECONDS LATER! The robots get emotional over any sense of approval, like at the end of “Villains Night In” Darrel and Shannon literally fall apart after Boxman gives them shirts and says to “keep up the good work”, and the end of Plazalypmics, Darrel, Shannon, and Raymond get participation trophies and are really happy with that. Like, this isn’t normal.

The whole relationship between the robots and Boxman is actually pretty toxic and kind of bothers me sometimes. The robots seem to have a very intense sibling rivalry but it’s over the affection of Boxman, which is unhealthy but most of the time it’s just played off as funny joke for the tv. And it becomes even more apparent because episodes without Boxman, like Rad likes robots, it shows them getting along fine and even worrying about each other. And in season 2, Boxman comes back from the sun and Darrel stands up to him and says he doesn’t need him anymore, but one “I’m proud of you” from Boxman and Darrel is back to wanting his approval. LIKE ITS ALMOST NEVER FRAMED AS A BAD THING OR TAKEN SERIOUSLY! I AM NOT A FAN OF HOW THEY TREAT THIS! Like, I can admit it gets better after Venomous comes into the picture and Boxman has that realization of “oh I should be proud of my kids achievements” but to me it looks like this whole forgiving your abuser plot line and I fucking hate it! And Boxman still admits to incinerating his robots after the company switches over to his and Venomous’ ownership when discussing what to do to punish them and he says “I usually see improvement in my robots after I incinerate them.” 

And even if it got better, it’s still played off as a joke in all of season one and normalizes terrible behavior. Child neglect in tv shows, especially in children’s media, played off jokes and funny are never good and can be insensitive to children who are in these situations seeing it played up for laughs. You can argue that being on the villain’s side frames it as a bad thing but that kinda loses meaning in a show like ok ko where you start to see the villains as regular people and not necessarily bad, just “evil”. I just feel like this could have been treated so much better and not trivialized like this.

3. System Caricatures and ableism

Let me start off by saying, I am a singlet and I don’t have as much authority on this type of thing so feel free to correct me on anything I get wrong or add on in anyway. 

With that said, KO and TKO along with Shadowy Figure and Professor Venomous are terrible system caricatures. KO is 6-11 years old is prime age to develop a system, so when shadowy figure comes into KO’s life and traumatizes him, he splits. And so we begin our little “evil alter ego”(quoting the show! using this phrasing is terrible and should never describe a system like that) stereotype.

I’ve talked about OK KO with my friends who are systems and it makes them mad that this show had so many moments to be good system rep and then it turns around and fucks everything up! Like TKO could have been written well. TKO is very clear on stating he isn’t KO and is his own person but everyone still refers to him KO and treats him like a bad thing because he isn’t KO. And when TKO acts out due to being referred to as KO and rightfully being upset, they act like it is some evil act against them and they need KO back! Like, the show misses its own point so much!!! If they treated TKO like a person (which he is!!!!!) then half the problems they have wouldn’t be a problem in the first place. And TKO has done nothing wrong other than wanting to front! KO even talks about TKO as another person but they address him as such! 

The way people talk about TKO in this show makes me so mad, like when Dendy does tests on KO in “Mystery Science Fair 201X” to bring out TKO, TKO finally comes out to deal with the feelings KO can’t deal with and then they almost do it right when Dendy realizes she was the one that fucked up and then SHE APOLOGIZES TO KO INSTEAD OF TKO FSDGHSDFJ!!! And they always treat TKO as a threat as if he’s a danger! Like TKO’s a kid just like KO and acted out when the people around him upset him! Like a kid! And the last time TKO shows up in season one in the finale, TKO actually SAVES everyone in the plaza and leads the battle away from the plaza but because “oh but TKO is the evil” they go and try to stop him from saving them? Like yeah he got a little reckless but he only ended up hurting people in the plaza when Rad and Enid interfered. They treat him like a problem because they MAKE him a problem! 

Also, the moments where everyone tries to bring KO back by saying “you are loved” and all that, that’s actually really manipulative! Like, they’re using positive triggers to kick TKO out of front and that’s actually a really rude thing to do. They’re trying to bring to front who THEY want to see and it’s not fair to TKO who is fronting. It also goes the other way around when Dendy is experimenting on TKO to try and get him to front.

And then even KO treats him terribly, locking him in a cage, then keeping him in his head all the time, and then when he finally lets TKO out and TKO acts out from being locked in his own head for so long, KO then traps TKO in his subconscious. Which is terrible! TKO should be allowed to front and should be treated like his own person! It’s so weird how the show almost gets it right but then does shit like this that makes it terrible again. Like KO has a headspace and he creates things in his headspace and he talks to TKO like another person and they communicate their feelings but then the show turns this all on their head when KO locks TKO away and blames him for destroying everything when he’s the one trapping him in his brain. 

There is also the problem with TKO being the one with all the power and changing his appearance cus that all contributes to the system caricature. Also, TKO and KO integrating at the end of the series? ALSO VERY BAD AND HARMFUL CARICATURE! Alters are different people and they should be treated as different people and KO is not TKO all along THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE! And integration is possible but it’s usually not by choice. And even then, integration being the end goal of a story is a very ableist narrative and shouldn’t be written.

And it confuses me, why does shadowy figure have his own pow card but TKO doesn’t. Like, KO and TKO are established more as being different people than Shadowy Figure and Venomous so why doesn’t he get his own pow card? Like the end of season one, TKO fought the fight at the plaza and used his power to defeat Boxman jr but at the end KO ends up leveling up instead. And on the topic of TKO’s power, again, that shouldn’t be a thing. TKO and KO should both have access to the same power because they use the same body because that's how systems work! They use the same body!

And I know what the show was trying to do like “oh TKO is a manifestation of all the bad feelings that KO has!” but there are so many ways to do that without making a caricature of systems. Like if you didn’t make TKO a person then this would have been fine. Like if other people didn’t see TKO this could have been fine. There are ways to make a manifestation of your negative emotions without doing it like this. And the way this show did it is such bad writing, because you are meant to think TKO is this terrible manifestation of emotions but all you see is this scared kid who doesn’t know where he is and lashes out when he gets rightfully upset. BECAUSE LET ME REMIND YOU! TKO AND KO ARE BOTH 6-11 YEARS OLD! THEY ARE KIDS! THEY’RE SITUATION SHOULDN’T BE TREATED THIS WAY

And my guy shadowy figure...... bad. Shadowy Figure and Venomous’ is not only a terrible caricature but also very inaccurate. With KO and TKO, their system developed at the correct time as a child, but with Shadowy Figure and Venomous, they developed after Venomous got his snake disease. And, Venomous doesn’t even know about Shadowy Figure and that can be a result of dissociative amnesia but it’s really unfortunate. And again! the end of the series! Shadowy Figure and Venomous integrate into one entity and it’s terrible! Because they aren’t the same person and shouldn’t be treated as the same person! And again with the whole “evil alter ego”. Like Shadowy figure only exists to traumatize KO and make him split and create TKO. And the fact that they turn out to be KO’s dad??? Yikes??? Like again, these are terrible caricatures and are harmful to systems and should’ve been treated better in the show.

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Like, I love OK KO, I used to hold this show very close to my heart and made me very happy to see this show with the amount of LGBT rep but looking back it was very bad in many ways. Like that racism episode I mentioned, that shit resonates with me! And I appreciate characters like Dendy and KO and I still love the boxbots and venomous, I just wished this show lived up to the potential that it had.

TL;DR: OK KO has a problem with misogynistic character design and colorism, normalizes child neglect, and has put out an ableist narrative with system caricatures.

#long post #racism m #colorism m #misogny m #ableism m #ok ko #malware-rants #intergration m

[heftbyjapanesebreakfast]

why my econ teacher hit the whoah when he was talking about the 2008 recession

#this happened two days ago and i still think its funny #he is like painfully a millenial #i did the same once talking about misogny in my us history class #m #king kevin

[milfmanifesto]

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#tr*sc*m be like: *spouts misogny and transphobia*

[spaghettificationandpretzels]

The Flat Tire Part 5

We're getting into the meat of it now.

Part 4

Requests are open

1,464 words not proofread, we die like men.

Warning; Mild angst, smut interpreted, Chibs being oblivious, Juice being a little shit, more cannon typical misogny.

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Your life is changed when you get a flat tire outside of charming, and a handsome Scott comes to your rescue.

It had been three weeks since you first met Chibs and the rest of the Sons. To say you were surprised how fast you took to them was a gross understatement, they were some of the nicest, most welcome (all be it rough around the edges) people you've ever met.

You found yourself spending more and more time at the Clubhouse, but you hadn't been to a Friday night party yet, until tonight. It's not like you hadn't been invited before but you were so busy with work that you didn't have the time.

This week you couldn't say no, not with how many times you had been asked by different people, Gemma was threatening to book you for catering just so you would be able to come.

You could hear (and feel) the music as you pulled into the compound, people were milling around the T-M nursing various drinks; however, you had a feeling that the party hadn't started yet.

Chibs had rushed over to greet you as you got out of your car, wrapping you in a firm embrace.

"Lassie! I'm glad you finally made it" he always seemed so happy to see you.

"Gemma wasn't going to let me say no again, plus, I wanted to see if these parties loved up to their reputation."

Chibs kept an arm around you as you walked into the Clubhouse building, you were enjoying the close contact more and more and he was so warm and comforting.

The moment you walked in Juice was embracing you.

"Y/N! You're here!" he reminded so much of a little puppy, always ready to be your friend and help you any way he could.

You returned his hug, squeezing his shoulder with genuine affection.

"Of course Juicy, I wouldn't miss out on seeing you again."

Chibs left you two to talk while he went and talked with Jax, things were starting to pick up and you could hear the people pilling into the car park.

There was a thrum in the air, you were hoping whether Chibs or Juice stayed close through the night because you were unsure if you were going to have fun being left to your own devices.

To your surprise, the night was going very well. The guys had come over to chat with you so you were never really alone, and Gemma was always close by.

Juice had spent most of his time with the woman he was trying so hard to impress, you had learnt her name was Jessica and that she was a preschool teacher. You had gotten quite protective over Juice so you were happy to find out she was just as sweet and kind as Juice; you thought they were a good match.

"How's your night been Darling?" Jax had grown on you, once he internalised that you weren't interested in him, his arrogance disappeared and underneath was a good friend.

"Good, supirsingly" if that comment offended Jax, he didn't let on.

"That's good Darlin. If you need anything, let one of the guys know. He sat with you for a bit longer before something else called him away.

Regardless, you began to feel uneasy and could feel someone staring at you.

"Hey pretty lady, you here alone?" His voice sounded disgusting. The man that came into your field of view was unremarkable, he was about Chibs' age, but he lacked the charm that came naturally to Chibs.

"No, I was invited" Your tone was sharp, you wanted him to leave you alone so you could get back to enjoying your night.

"Well, you're alone now. Can I buy you a drink?" he was leaning in close to you, your skin was crawling.

"No." it was a complete sentence, if he wanted any respect, he'd walk away now.

"Don't be like that, I'm just giving you a complement" you dodged his hand as he went to put it on your shoulder. If he didn't leave you alone, you were going to make a scene.

"I'm not intersted, go away." He looked over you for a moment, then he got a very nasty look on his face.

"Oh, it's like that, is it? Do you think you're too good for me? As much as you wanted to stay and stand your ground, you knew it was better to get up and walk away. Before you left him, you made sure to reach into your bag to defend yourself if he got worse.

The weight of the pocket knife in your hand gave you a lot more confidence.

"I'm going to sit by my friends, if you follow me, I'll scream."

He was taken aback but recovered quickly, then a drink was being thrown in your face.

"Stupid bitch"

Happy had jumped off a stool and taken two long strides to put himself between you and the man.

"Leave now" His voice was terrifying, you had no doubt in your mind that if he didn't walk out now, he would be dragged out.

"Thanks Hap"

Chibs appeared from nowhere, and started wiping your face with a cloth you had no idea where he got it from.

"Let's get you cleaned up Lass." Chibs put his hand on your lower back and guided you to one of the dorms.

He looked upset, a mix of angry, worried and sad.

"I'm ok Philip. I work in the service industry, if that's the worst thing that happens to me this week my life is easy."

He gave you a chuckle, although you could tell he was far from happy about your response.

He led you into the dorm next to Jax's office, and showed you the shower.

"Can you do me a huge favour?" he nodded.

"I have a go-bag in my car with a change of clothes, can you get it for me please?"

You handed him your keys and he was off, you were grateful for the few moments alone so you could collect yourself.

Chibs was back sooner than you thought, he was standing in the middle of the room, clearly looking for something to say.

"I'll give you some privacy." You had the sudden realisation that you didn't want to be left alone.

'Stay, please" he nodded, and sat on the bed.

"I'll be here as long as you need Lass."

You left the bathroom door open a crack, nowhere near wide enough for him to see anything but wide enough so you could have a clear conversation.

"I'm sorry about him y/n, he's a friends of Clay's so he gives us cheap parts, we can't really keep him away for long."

"It's ok, Happy made sure it didn't escalate." you felt better as the water washed away the sticky drink, all you wanted to do was go home and sleep.

Once you were out of the shower, Chibs moved to one side of the bed so you could sit down. There was a slight buzz in the air, like all the feelings that had built over the last three weeks were swirling around you both.

As you reach up the brush your hair Chibs interrupted, he gestured to your hairbrush and then your head.

"May I" you handed it to him with a small smile, then moved to sit closer.

"You may"

He was so gentle with you, making sure to brush from bottom to top while occasionally scratching your scalp.

"Thank you Philip."

He could almost feel him smile. His hands were big and warm and you were suddenly utterly exhausted.

"You have such lovley hair" at this point, he was well and truly done brushing it and was just touching you for the sake of it.

Your limbs moved before your brain gave them permission and then you were in his lap.

"You've been so good to me, I....." You tried to finish your sentence but were struck by the pink of his lips and the shine of his eyes.

And then, his lips were pressing into yours. It happened so suddenly, his hand were back into your hair, although this time they seemed determined to make a mess, and your arms were wrapped around his neck.

You could feel his pulling you back to lay down with you and you went without thought.

He pulled away and looked into your eyes

"Do you want this y/n" what a gentleman.

"Yes, a million times yes" You hoped you didn't sound too eager.

"Chibs, are you in........ oh shit" Juice took one look at your half-naked body on top of his brother and shut the door. You could hear him yelling at the guys as he walked away.

"Hey guys, Chibs finally grew some balls and told y/n the truth."

What?

"Philp, what does Juice mean by that?"

Part 6

Yep I left you on a cliff-hagger, tune in next time to see if it resolves.

#chibs fanfiction #soa chibs #chibs x oc #chibs telford #chibs imagine #chibs x reader #sons of anarchy #samcro #sons of anarchy fluff #fluff #soa

[serpenteve]

I've been thinking about this alot so tell me if I'm wrong but

The very concept that Bardugo wrote these books for young girls as a lesson to not excuse evil just because it has a sharp jawline and strong principles,the statement itself,reeks of sexism. She's simply assuming we can't differentiate between fiction and reality,the same way men back in the 17th century did. If young girls have to rely on YA Fantasy book to learn moral values then the society has failed them. Also,why only say "young girls" when literally ANYONE can read the books? Is she again assuming that out of all her readers,no matter what their gender is,we're just the stupid and naive ones and have absolutely no thoughts of our own? Again, internalised misogny at it's best.

It is deeply sexist and also patronizing as hell. Like, I know I was an idiot as a teenager, but I certainly knew the difference between right and wrong and can't imagine I'd be taken in by someone's bullshit just because they happened to be attractive. Usually, the very opposite happened.

Bardugo herself wrote a blog post on the appeal of the bad boy during the book's launch where she writes:

Of course, in real life, powerful, uncommunicative, isolated guys are usually that way for good reason. Delusions of grandeur, amorality, and a gift for violence tend to be decidedly less charming off the page, and we often find that, lurking beneath the brooding shell is a wounded little boy who doesn't have the guts to deal with his baggage. But in fiction the line between bad and evil can blur and the illusion of the brave but lonely monster can remain firmly in place. There at least, let bastards thrive.

At some point, she changed her tune. Fictional villains are no longer just for fun and now have to used as heavy-handed morality lessons for idiot teenage girls. About 55% of the readership of YA books are adults so this is a misunderstanding of her audience as well.

Also, it's a hilarious aesop that backfires because Bardugo calls M*l "handsome" multiple times and has random side characters ogling at him (including the beautiful Zoya) just to flex just how good-looking he is...............and yet I still picture a literal turd with legs whenever he's on the page. I wonder why 🙄

Maybe it was easier to paint Darkling stans as thirsty stupid girls than face the fact that she fucked up multiple aspects of her story so badly that 3/4 of the fandom ended up shipping her protagonist with the villain ☠️

#viv answers #anti mal #m*l has a sharp jawline and still continues to be trash #nikolai is literally perfect and somehow i fucking hated him in KoS #so maybe it has less to do with a character's attractiveness and more to do with leigh's garbage writing lmao #anti leigh bardugo

[olderthannetfic]

I'm in a fandom where in the source material a young woman is paired with a much older man. this does get in the way of a very popular m/m ship involving this male character. now, ten or fifteen years ago the general reaction (in my experience) would be the fandom hating that female character, but im surprised to find that nowadays they act like the writers are evil and disgusting for pairing "a literal child" with the male chara. she is literally an adult character though. (1/4)

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(2/4) everyone calls her "child" and "she deserved so much better" And I just feel so uncomfortable with how fandom infantilizes this character and portraits her in fanworks. In the source material she is portrayed by a grown woman, has autonomy and talks about adult themes. It boggles my mind how people seem to ignore this (and I love headcanons, but this just seems more like an AU than a simple headcanon.) Funnily, I don't see the same treatment for male characters her age,

(3/4) one of which is actually the other half of the popular m/m pairing... I feel like the shift of underlying misogny in modern fandom has gone from "I hate this female character because she ruins my m/m" to "I love her but shes just a child/lesbian/like a sister". While the latter things are less... off-putting than the hate, I can't help but feel that alot of the time it's still done to validate the m/m ship in favour of the female character's personality.

(4/4) Women are more than just "a child", "a lesbian" or "the sister". I'm not complaining about the amount of m/m or the m/m pairing itself (I love it lol) compared to the female centric fanworks, but I do feel that as a woman and lesbian I can say I find that fandom in my general experience still struggles to treat female and male characters equally. Simply slapping the lesbian badge on a character won't rectify this. It's like the "yaoi female" trope all over again. I think we can do better.

Yeah, I see a lot of those too. I don't really care what people are doing with the unshipped characters in shippy fic, but that vibe like "I made her a lesbian! Look how woke I am!" is annoying.

[willgrahymn]

”The m in anxxiousmess stands for misogynistic”

me when misogny /j

#da mailbox #manyfandomsonelog #THIS IS A JOKE #I LOVE WOMEN

[witchstone]

if anyone's interested in reading an incredibly good article about reader attitudes towards f/f relationships in contemporary lit (as opposed to the popularity of f/m and m/m!) that really breaks down the whys and hows (that goes beyond misogny and the fetishising of gay men), then i really recommend giving Musings: What’s Love Got to Do With It by mahitdzmare on twitter a read! it's incredibly well written and well researched piece.

#bookblr #f/f ships #femslash #queer lit #litblr

[cruelsister-moved]

i hate m************z so much omg 😳 men love stirring shit between lbt women also the way he constantly teeters on the brink of misogny (esp transmisogyny) also u really got ur followers parroting "not all lesbians" as though lesbians are anything like men and using it as a gotcha any time a lesbian points out that ur entire blog is a lesbophobic circle jerk "oh if ur offended then maybe ur part of the problem" um I just think it's obnoxious that you provide an arena for a lot of people who really genuinely just hate lesbians and are constantly using very general language bc one lesbian was mean to them once and then when anyone points that out to u, u just say u never said that and ignore the fact that you're validating and giving a platform to others who do💜

lgbt version of a white knight lmao how are u not just a man deciding ur professor of Lesbians Being Meanology and it's so fucking funny that ppl r still convinced that lesbians have literally any privilege at all either inside or outside of the lgbt community like we arent the fucking enemy lol and u can literally have a whole blog full of asks abt how much we suck (that young questioning ppl are going to see and decide that being a lesbian is clearly not something they want to be. u literally can't deny that and it's honestly my main concern of this awful blog)

#venting💜 #men shut the HELL up challenge #also ur followers harassed multiple lesbians to deletion over expressing their discomfort like #lesbians who always supported bi women nd u picked fights w them over nothing and it's absurd #and u got nothing of the sort back bc idk..... ppl dont hate bi men like they hate lesbians #so even if u rlly are simply a concerned onlooker its literally undeniable that ur giving a platform to what is literally just hatred