#not only by the creators themselves

[mxtxfanatic]

Ever think about how the author of PIDW transmigrated into his most nothing character who only existed to push the protagonist on the “right” path to popularity before dying? Ever think about how he transmigrated into that character from their birth, completely deleting that person from existence, while his own existence as the creator of the world he now inhabits is so thoroughly erased that we readers only know his “real name” as the character’s name? How the only name he carries over from his first life is a shortened version of his innuendo pen name? As if his existence as a person is nothing next to being the author, which is only marginally less nothing by virtue of the job’s one purpose: to make sure a story is following the “right” path to popularity before dying to enshrine that fame/infamy amongst readers?

No? Just me? Ok…

#svsss #human metas mxtx #something something the complete lack of regard for creators of famous works #where in some people’s minds they only exist to create content to be consumed #but are not themselves real people #just a name on a page with no meaning or significance #something something #people get on the fact that sy takes ‘too well’ to pidw #but we know the man’s original name #we know the makeup of his family #we know his class status and that he didn’t go to college #we don’t even know sqh’s name #I don’t think HE knows his original name anymore

[zonatcannibalism]

"the rich people and the lawyer have Jewish names!!!!!!!" My man have you considered every hatchetfield character is actually Jewish. Hope that helps :)))

#I am so not kidding with this one #ruth. Richie ...other people #its not like the rich character are the only ones Jewish coded. all of them are Jewish coded. beacuse a lot of the cast and the creators #are Jewish themselves #hatchetfield #starkid

[chirpsythismorning]

I'm not going to say we should take every single thing official Netflix accounts post as gospel, because obviously they are not run by the Duffer Brothers themselves.

But to be clear, these people are hired by Netflix and there's more to it than just random interns scheduling posts. The people running these accounts are not the same people designing the posts made there, just like the people designing those posts have higher ups telling them what to do/not do in terms of the content they are creating. And there are plenty more levels that go beyond that, which eventually does lead to the Duffers and producers of the show, who do have a stake in how the show is promoted on a basic level to best align with their intentions and all the revelations still to come.

It is common knowledge that the Duffers work with Netflix marketing directly on a consistent basis to get their vision across, and that carries out in promotion with posters, merchandise, social media, etc., because it's really important in ST case (with it being a show made by nerds that love easter eggs), that they foreshadow what is still to come outside of the show itself.

When it comes to social media, the core purpose of those accounts is to encourage engagement for Netflix's user base, ideally ensuring they tune in to whatever is being promoted (and more), but it’s also more than that, in that it’s even more based on data and other factors.

What this leads to is the people in those less major decision-making roles, like graphic designers, simply being advised what to create, based on the information and content they are given to work with.

And so these accounts going from promoting byler subtly for years, to blatantly posting about it post-s5, is actually very, very intentional, going beyond a simple Netflix intern. It’s orchestrated by those in management positions, being advised by those in the ST production to do things a certain way, so that when all is said and done, we are able to look back and find tiny little things that point to it.

Byler can't be something they NEVER talked about even once on social media, only to have them end up being endgame with them posting about it forever afterwards when it's all said and done. It doesn't work like that, at least not in ST case. We're talking about a production that costs hundreds of millions to make, as well as being the most talked about mainstream series of our generation.

They have an obligation to make their story feel not only satisfying on its own, but to also promote the show in a way that makes the viewer feel this whole well-rounded experience, outside of the show itself as well.

And so when ST came out in summer 2022 and Netflix Geeked was making posts about it non-stop, that wasn't a rogue, low-paid Netflix intern doing whatever they wanted. That was multiple people with a job given a task and following through with it at their advisers discretion. Regardless of where it ended up, it started at the top with the Duffers informing higher ups in marketing that Byler is something that will happen, along with other revelations that they want to inform marketing about, so they can take the steps to plan ahead and create content that matches the Duffer's vision, most often to act as a foreshadowing device for the story still unraveling.

Remember when Netflix Geeked made a post acknowledging that Will the Wise drawing in El's room back in s3?? A very well known byler easter egg that only we know about??? That wasn't some ga intern watching the show once and them spontaneously coming up with content to create related to that drawing and posting about it themselves. That was very likely someone associated with the show giving suggestions to marketing, with a few of them being very incriminating in relation to byler, but with most being casual in relation to the show overall.

Just like I said in this post about how Noah didn't tweet about byler or mention it multiple times at cons unprompted bc he was feeling quirky. He was being advised to...

And look what Netflix did to that tweet Noah posted that was clearly a stunt in an of itself.? They broadcasted it and made a cheesy ass edit out of it... And it's bc several people behind the scenes were advised to make content like that specifically.

I mean, if you actually look at how social media promotes byler (if and when it does), it's arguably in the exact way that the Duffers want it to be promoted?. Just enough. Not too little. Not too much. I would argue if the Duffers had no say whatsoever in how the show was promoted, then we'd either be seeing byler constantly or we wouldn't see them at all, instead we see social media sort of dance around it, which tells me they are following the exact approach the Duffers themselves follow... because they were obviously given the instruction to.

And so seeing an account like UK Netflix, an account that as of recent has really went all out with posting Queer content since Heartstopper released, has also notably made really incriminating posts about byler over the years, but especially as of recent. And that's in large part because of what I've stated, but also based on data.

If higher ups in marketing at Netflix know about byler, then they are very likely pushing people lower on the payroll, doing more simple tasks like graphic design and social media management, to make connections to ST with other shows like Heartstopper, Sex Education, Young Royals, etc. And this is because if byler IS going to end up being this huge Queer love story, data is telling them to make these connections sooner than later, so that the eventual revelation will be a smooth transition amongst other content just like it. This works in Netflix's favor at the end of the day, which is the whole point of all of this.

Not saying you should take the most casual of Netflix posts as byler endgame proof if that's what you're asking. But to say that these accounts have NO association with the Duffer's and ST directly, therefore we shouldn’t even appreciate anything they post if it points to byler, is sort of over-simplifying things.

It's not like s5 is gonna drop and all of these interns are going to be like OHHH okay now i'm a byler so i'll post about it... Going into s5 they're going to be making some very side eye posts and it isn't going to have anything to do with them being an intern without any say in things, its gonna be about them getting a task list and following through with it bc it's their job.

#byler #stranger things #whenever i see bylers just having fun appreciating a netflix post acknowledging byler #only to see another byler discouraging them bc it's not proof #i lose brain cells #bc like no shit it isn't proof #but it's still a small piece of the puzzle just like posters and trailer and merch and everything else in between outside of the show #it's not like these accounts are going to spontaneously start posting byler post-s5 bc they feel like it... #it goes beyond that... #the duffers themselves have said they worked with marketing to plan out foreshadowing hiding in the details of their posters... #all it literally takes is them telling one person high up in marketing #'hint at byler... make it subtle but not too subtle!' #and that's literally all there is to it #all it takes is a graphic designer reading off notes for what the creators want/expect and doing it according to their wishes... #that's it #q: where do you think they get the footage to create and post what they do? a: the ST production! #like lets use our brains here #so if you see a byler positive post from an official netflix account #go nuts #bc byler endgame is already happening #it isn't going to happen/not happen bc of a social media post acknowledging it #but that doesn't mean you cant celebrate and enjoy yourself while we wait

[sukibenders]

Being a woc fan of Bridgerton can be a struggle, especially when it comes to liking the poc characters on the show, especially the woc. Like I remember when s1 came out and the blatant microaggressions and just plain racism coming from this fandom was atrocious. You had people spewing very hateful things about Charlotte, Marina, and Simon and undermining the latter two's pain and trauma at the hands of the white characters---Marina was treated terribly by the Featheringtons and, whether you like Penelope or not, you cannot deny that she also played a part by releasing that letter to the Ton and Simon was violated Daphne no matter how people try to spin the story to offer her some form of sympathy (it still blows my mind that people would want to though).

S2 is just as bad (not even including how they changed the Sharma family's storyline than how it was in the books when that wasn't necessary) and the racist undertones many of the fans have towards Mary and Edwina (as well as Kate but for her it's carries more brown woman needing to be saved by a white man when Anthony is involved because a lot of you all in the fandom are quick to use this trope such as "oh, he's the only one who truly knows her"). The lack of screen time for this family really ends up hurting them to but even with that, whether you like Mary and Edwina or not, it would be a lie to deny the racism a lot in the fandom hold towards them (and how that falls onto the actresses because it was very apparent how many in the fandom couldn't let two Desi women shine without having to bring down the other and Netflix played into that too for drama) and paints every small thing they do as being terrible crimes but in the same breath will not have the same smoke for the Bridgertons, who have their own set of problems (but because they are also the main family, among other things, they are provided more grace without consequences).

#bridgerton #edwina sharma #kate sharma #mary sharma #marina thompson #queen charlotte #simon basset #like fandoms can be a very hostile place especially toward poc #and don't even get me started on some fans acting like they care about the poc characters but only still fall into the tropes i presented #im nervous for how this post will be received bc ngl when people call out the racist antics in bridgerton people love to downplay it #and that's just not right (for any fandom) #and this impacts actors too bc there should be no reason that charithra can hardly be excited about her role in the show #or how ruby had received so much hate that (probably) as a result had two breakdowns #on top of still being asked by polin and pen fans to denounce marina to uplift their white faves #dni if you can't have a calm conversation here #also seeing the creator of the show say for s3 kathony that there won't be as much angst #more happy couple scenes irks me in a way bc that amount of angst didn't have to flood s2 if they weren't so concerned with pointless drama #like the books themselves gave enough angst without the engaged to your sister plotline and such #also would have made anthony seem like less of a prick and actually respect a woman's honor but nope #don't even get me started on how it seems more common for the poc characters to have to gripe and struggle #(especially with things that....they should not be blamed for) at the hands of or as result of white characters #when in the same breath that courtesy isn't extended to said white characters #(e.g. marina having to push colin in pen's direction even though both failed her #to simon begin assaulted and then blamed for it by daphne and the narrative #to kate having to move mountains to grow (even though for most part she wasn't wrong) but don't even see anthony apologize for his actions) #all the actors especially the woc experience racism (and other forms of discrimination) from this fandom #i haven't even gotten into the shitshow from some fans towards simone and the actor who plays simon #as well as the racism the actresses for queen charlotte faced #a lot of yall need to do better

[vaxxildamn]

very happy Matt decided to clarify his stance on the genocide of the Palestinian people rn. Pretty unhappy with the way he worded it, who he centered in his video, and disappointed to see the responses to it on Twitter.

kinda scared to even post about it bc CR fans can get so defensive about their favorite white people that they can often leave little room for criticism or nuance. but man I have thoughts.

#lemme just say. if you have a public platform that has set a precedent for philanthropic work. messages of positivity and love. #and have called attention to various political and social conflicts *in stream*. & whose employees and cast members are vocal #on socials about political topics #then it is NOT unreasonable for fans to expect them to address one of the deadliest orchestrated conflicts in recent history #a literal genocide is happening. thanks in part to the US. #it is good that they donated as a company and as individuals. so good! #but to everyone saying that publicizing good deeds like donations is virtue signaling or demanding CR cast to show their support is #or that activism shouldnt be all about what you post bc then it becomes performative #are kinda missing the point. and theyre not listening to palestinians at all #a huge issue with this conflict & the way its being received in the western world - ESPECIALLY the US bc of its partnership w israel - #is the sheer amount of disgusting minsinformation and propaganda convincing ppl this genocide is either not that bad or that its necessary #everyday citizens CANNOT change foreign policy. we cant do anything! #so what have Palestinians been asking us to do?? SPREAD AWARENESS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. MAKE PEOPLE AWARE. UPLIFT PALESTINIAN VOICES. SHARE LINKS #SHOW PPL THE TRUTH. #and yes its hard! its difficult to watch what theyre going thru. but we HAVE to. #i didnt rlly like matts statement. he said he didnt have the spoons to engage in the discourse. which i get. god i get it. #but ive also seen many many creators/influencers who are also disabled or whose families are directly involved gather their spoons to help #and no one was asking CR to harm themselves in the name of helping palestine. we only wanted them to spread awareness #bc the comments on their tweet about finally donating were full of mostly white centrist takes not able to see any benefit to donating or #addressing the issue at all. which is EXACTLY why CR should addresss it. bc they can reach so many who dont understand #but theyd been radio silent for almost 5 months. i didnt like that he didnt really apologize. i didnt like that he centered himself #i didnt like his lowkey flippant language either. saying all that.. ridiculousness in regards to a genocide not well worded. #but i dont feel right holding that against him. should he have thought it through better? sure but i get it #& unfortunately his parting message left a bad taste in my mouth - one of positivity & self care & hugging each other #nice important words but it didnt feel like he was talking about ppl who are affected by this conflict. but rather ppl who are watching #it just felt like a very white thing to say in response to this. we are not burdened and easily victimized bc of it #we are responsible. and so we must center palestinians. #if i were him i wldnt have gone in detail about how hard the palestinian genocide is for me to watch. #but thats just me #*CORRECTION: radio silent for almost 4 months

[lerildeal]

Man comics are hard! But here’s one for A Prayer for the Crown Shy, a wonderful book that translates into comics surprisingly well

#Digital art #comic #man comics are REALLY hard #a prayer for the crown shy #monk and robot #sibling Dex #Mosscap #these books are so much fun #they make you think but not in a depressing way #its a really really nice short read for those who haven’t read it yet #Art from books #This took three a while and i have a new found respect for comic creators #specially those with only themselves #i can’t imagine having to actually write a comic in a timely manner #much less a good one #I had one on the dome for a bit but this definitely puts it into perspective #I thought #NBD I can definitely hand letter this!’ #y’all saw how that turned out #I think the thoughts are over

[walker-lister]

I just have to remind myself sometimes that no matter what anyone else says, the way a piece of media makes me feel and the positive impact it has had on my queer identity is valid, and that tearing myself apart thinking I have to defend it or questioning my own place within queer communities is not at all important when compared to the almost tangible sense of 'rightness' that piece of media helped me to feel about myself.

#just something i've been pondering the last few days #kind of like no matter how much people debate or i suppose theoretically deconstruct media featuring queer stories #the most important thing is how it makes a queer person feel #and I do think it is of course a good thing to ensure queer stories are executed with respect and authenticity #but there's this grey area in fandom spaces in which people may have found rep from a 'unreliable' source i suppose #or something which is queerbaiting- sherlock springs to mind for example yet if people have been able to explore and nurture their own #queerness through that media does that therefore mean their experience is invalid? i don't think so #and my worry is the more we focus on theory the less we focus on emotion and therefore the actual queer experience itself #and sure theory can inform the queer experience and ensure the media is a 'healthy' site of queer identity formation and identity aid #but at the same time scorning or being rude to those who have found certain media an aid is not the right approach to be taking #especially as queer experiences are so wide ranging that one person's idea of 'good' representation is someone's else's of 'bad' #and that unless a piece of media is clearly offensive in its portrayal of queer experience there has to be some benefit of doubt #I think we're still in a period of progression in media espc tv where queer creators are coming to the fore of their own stories #and we've got to 'live and let live' a little about where people are finding sights of queer validation and joy #and perhaps this a naive and simplistic way of thinking but i think queer people can either recognise when something isn't the best rep #but was helpful for them anyway and therefore in a way confer 'ownership' of the media to themselves in how they engage #or there is variety in queer experiences represented in media so that perhaps not everyone finds a 'site' of rep but that does not #therefore invalidate it or make it 'bad' representation #this is just my opinion and it'd be hypocritical for me to not now mention this is only formed from my own queer experience lol #so i'm not trying to tell anyone how to feel or anything just something i'm pondering

[fabuloustrash05]

#I only added the ones that were acknowledge in show or my the creators/writers themselves #so sorry no jonatello or aprilnardo #tmnt polls #tumblr polls #tmnt 2012 #tmnt #teenage mutant ninja turtles #tmnt leonardo #tmnt raphael #tmnt donatello #tmnt michelangelo #april o'neil #casey jones #Karai #tmnt mona lisa #tmnt shinigami #renet tilley #master splinter #tang shen #bebop and rocksteady #tmnt ramona #raphmona #apritello #renetangelo #shinirai #shiniangelo #capril #bopsteady #splinter x tang shen #Bigfoot x the finger

[thecreelhouse]

is this a safe space

#too bad im gonna say it anyway #it is so fucking weird watching half the fandom constantly make/share reminders to support other creators #and then not do it themselves #ive said this before probably but it’s just fucking weird behavior man #you’re not gonna like every fic you come across of course but like… #how are you gonna support only popular blogs that get plenty of attention and ignore everyone else #I’m not even saying this just for myself and my fics like i totally get my medicocre writing isn’t everyone’s cup of tea #but skipping over other creators constantly when you’re preaching for others to share share share support others and share #it’s just so fucking weird. i don’t get it man. #but that’s your problem not mine. just realize it’s a two way street and practice what you preach.

[angelsaxis]

"you cant call X character from Y show a stereotypical presentation because I relate to a lot of it. I am not a stereotype" that doesn't make the character any less a stereotype. real life people cannot be stereotypes. personally relating to a character doesn't change the often decades or even centuries-old intention + message about a character.

#angel posts #stereotypes as they apply to characters + media is a critique of the representation #and often is a critique of how its the ONLY presentation #or a watered down one #or a comically exaggerated one #but all around handled and done without care or concern for the relevant group of people #none of this means they cant ever hit the mark and make some audience members #feel good about themselves #this doesn't mean that the rep is always 100% wrong #but it does mean that in a lot of ways #its doing more harm than good #because youll notice with stereotypes that theyre made by people who are not from the relevant group #who are relying on a lot of shorthands #and who often create the character to uphold hegemonic standards about XYZ #this doesnt make a real life person a stereotype #the question to ask is ''why do creators only want to show ONE type of person from X?''

[hushberry]

im so pissed what do you MEAN baghera dropped out due to harrassment?? WHAT WERE THEY MAD ABOUT? SHE WAS THE MOST MILD-MANNERED AND CHILL PERSON DURING THE DEBATE. its so strange how some people act INSANE when female creators hold their ground on their opinions and don't roll over. ohhh no did a woman disagree with your uwu cannibal catboy and didn't even have the grace to apologize for it? sooo sorry to hear that you are so brave for sending her hate

#qsmp #qsmp discourse #drama ! i guess!!! #it's not only male fans who show their misogyny #female fans of male creators will twist themselves into pretzels trying to find new ways to see female creators as bad people

[toothlespoggers]

can someone on tumblr do the whole Twitter situation thingie but with like. This

I don’t want todo that cause I hate Twitter but I feel like someone should like. Make this viral to raise awareness, tell some sort of commentary YouTuber, or like. Start a Twitter rampage

not only is that video literally nazi content that got recommended to me but it is also literally characterised as “made for kids content” which in itself is incorrect as 1. It’s fucking nazi glorification. 2. It literally fucking says 13+ on it. And also can this be like. Brought up I want the internet for once to like stop talking about dreams asshole or whatever the fuck and like actually not bury important shit caus I know the internet only deals with problems that are like

oh no! Some famous person sneezed in public! Let’s make this news instead of talking about actual issues.

okay so just so we’re clear. We are to mass report this guy, raise awareness of shithead people like this. And whoever has the power todo something should probably bring YouTube’s attention to bullshit like this on Twitter. Because this is literally a blatant example of the corruption in their moderation.

best case scenario, we get the YouTuber banned, videos taken down and they get punished for their behaviour.

the scenario that’ll probably happen; if I’m lucky the internet will actually notice this post and people will try todo something about it.

but I’m like. Fully prepared for this to completely get ignored and buried like all my shit that isn’t undertale/deltarune content.

I love tumblr but it makes me so genuinely angry that people only give a fuck about my content when it’s a specific type.

also tags are fucking stupid because how tf do I tag 99% of shit that isn’t for a specific fandom? What am I supposed to tag this as? How the fuck will people see this? What the fuck am I supposed todo? Just type nazi in tags and pray????

#raising awareness #hate crimes #people need to know #just look at this man #idfk at this point #i hate the internet #Content creators and just people in general pretend to care about shit but they rarely ever actually do anything beneficial #The internet will tell a trans person to kill themselves but won’t give a fuck when someone does something actually bad #because justice only works if the situation is clickbait-able

[transcendentalinversion]

The purpose of the iterators' existence is to find the solution, but the only solution they have is against their existence.

#i am having various thoughts #this is their life's goal #its what they were designed to do #but at the same time #finding the solution mean going against their creators. against themselves #not to mention that the only ones they could be solving the problem for anymore are themselves...... #ouchie #rain world

[handgiven]

also sidenote but em needs more monstrous creatures in his life to love. he is capable of seeing beauty in everyone and while that's fun with humans, it's even more fun with things with extra teeth who are just a little too tall or have too many eyes that blink all at once or in a slightly unsettling sequence or who speak at frequences that are humanly impossible to grasp and covered in scaley skin or who seem pretty normal but then you step up close and you note that every molecule of their being is on fire or --

#emmanuel (seeing a positively fucked up creature) : 😊😊😊 wow cant believe what the creator came up with this time. wonderful 😊😊 #bonus points if the creature was cast aside by its creator. em will take it upon himself to love them in their creator's stead. #because only under love can beings be expected to blossom into the most wonderful versions of themselves !!!!!!!! #▻ 𝐸𝑀𝑀𝐴𝑁𝑈𝐸𝐿 、musings ⁽ ˡᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵖᵒᵘʳˢ ᶦᵗˢᵉˡᶠ ⁾ #em might not be a true monsterfucker as asexual as he is. but he sure is a monsterlover ;) #A N Y W A Y --------- back to regular blogging

[hecksupremechips]

Don’t you just kinda wanna go insane thinking about how it took years for Shane Dawsons youtube career built on blackface and pedophilia and other “edgy jokes” to get “canceled” but then some hardly semi popular marginalized creator who makes all their money online makes a tweet that’s offensive if you dig deep enough and they get instantly shit on and deemed as irredeemably harmful and no amount of apologies will ever make up for the irreparable damage they have caused to marginalized communities everywhere? Is this really truly how you want to live life and support your community or are you just a dickwad who thinks anger automatically=activism?

#the klock keeps ticking #sarah z is one person that comes to mind thats like why do you people treat her like this i really dont get it #like idk im not a devout fan of her videos but she seems to put in a lot of effort to not offend anyone #like the dashcon vid she made extra sure to say that we shouldnt make fun of the tumblr teens who attended cuz they were just innocent nerds #but ppl still found ways to be mad #shes not the only person obviously but like aaaaaa why do you guys do this #do you think youre perfect and have never committed any crimes #when youve shat on everyone in your highly vulnerable community your ass is gonna be next i hope you know #its just deflection and fear honestly like you think if you lash out at ‘bad’ people that makes you good #and you gotta start really stretching to find problems or just straight up lie about weak people so you can actually win for once #cuz like shane dawson is rich as hell so even though he was ‘canceled’ hes still rich and can do whatever #what can a small marginalized creator do? are you gonna rejoice when they kill themselves??? #do you think that would make you a Good Boy??

[swiftfootedachilles]

what do i have to do to get people to read my stuff actually like im not about to get in everyones faces begging for attention but i dont understand how im expected to make FREE fandom content without much feedback on my work

#ignore my ranting but im actually so fucked disillusioned #like why are there so many people who scream about supporting each other and lifting up small creators #and they never do it themselves unless its their friend #sorry i dont sit at the popular table but i never expected that it would impact my reach this much #my newest fic has more hits but less kudos and less comments than my first #it's so obvious people only interacted on my first fic *because* it was my first fic #and thank you so fucking much to the people who have given me kind words #and literally religiously rbing my stuff because you think im worth listening to #this isn't about me crying because im not popular #people with bigger followings are naturally going to get more attention #but the only reason ive started posting my fics is because all these POPULAR BLOGS were like 'we support each other here!!!' #'were a big family were not a big fandom so any time someone posts it brings a smile to our faces!' blah blah blah #like youre out here lying for clout you literally only leave feed or kudos if its your fucking friend 😭 not even if its good #i guess id rather have less people interacting if it means the feedback i get is genuine and not just blowing smoke up my ass #but it still hurts to write a fic that flops and then write another fic thats over 3x longer than my first fic #WITH A PREMISE THAT POPULAR WRITERS HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT BEFORE AND BLEW UP FOR IT AND PEOPLE IDOLIZE THEIR WRITING #so im expecting to get more feedback and constructive criticism because it's a concept that a lot of people seem to love #only to get EVEN LESS FEEDBACK THAN ON MY FIRST FIC #like sorry to everyone who genuinely likes my writing i actually love you so much #but im very rejection sensitive and don't plan on continuing this. it seriously hurts me. it triggers my abandonment and selfhatred shit ba #like im sick to my stomach that another thing im passionate about is sucking the life out of me & i cant even get my foot in the door #donut rebagel this thanks and goodbye