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#plus I really don't think that this was the reason why Liv didn't go for the lethal shot immediately.
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melziss · 1 year
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Literally, nobody asked for my opinion on the second chase sequence in scream VI, but let me give it nonetheless.
The thing is, I get really attached to characters, truly.
I'm not over wes' and liv's deaths at all , definitely not over tatum's, and I cry at least twice a day because of anika.
But I understand the fact that if everybody lives, the whole point of the movie goes to shit. scream is a slasher franchise, and that's what makes it, it!
But mindy is my girlie, and therefore, I wanted her happiness, so Im constantly thinking of the mistakes that were made that fatidic night.
so let me argue that anika could 100% have lived.
here are the issues that I have:
#1 - Mindy's cut on her arm.
See, I've never been stabbed (thank whomever), but as previously seem in the other scream movies that cut wasn't that bad , mindy was literally acting like she lost a limb. And the following morning(?) as they go to the shrine, she's carrying her bag on the side that she was hurt (my friend and I noticed that while watching in the theathers and got so confused), so it couldn't have been that bad. Which takes me to issue number:
#2 - The bedroom scene.
Okay, so much whent wrong here, but let's start with the fact that sweet baby anika has been mauled. The poor kid was gutted for no reason at all and is in the worst shape of the three. That's why I don't understand the ladder sequence. Sam is 100% fine (physically) and is the strongest of them in there. So after she helped mindy to (badly) block the door and set the ladder with danny, she should have shipped Anika off to the other side. I really didn't see a single reason why Sam crossed first (other than the usual : "can't leave tara").
So let's talk about how that should've gone.
Sam should've told anika to go first, taking Mindy's place blocking ghostface from entering the room (as she is the strongest) and telling mindy to hold the ladder. Anika crossed slower than everyone because of her wounded stomach, but she was doing fine until everybody got desperate because gf showed up, and she got desperate as well, plus the whole shaking the ladder. So with mindy holding the ladder and danny calming her, she would've crossed that bitch in record time. which would prompt mindy to cross next because she is the more injured of the two of them remaining in that room and Sam to leave the door and hold the ladder. Mindy crossed pretty quickly, and now is Sam's turn. Ghostface hasn't gotten through the block yet, and Sam is halfway through crossing, and when gf finally breaks the block and sees that our dear sammy is the one in there, they would simply not try and make her fall.
Why? You may ask. because the kirsch family can't have act three happen without Sam. She is the star of their fucked up little vengeance plot and there's no villain for their story if she dies.
so anika could've lived.
but then you can just make the point that sam was desperate to live for tara and that she had no idea that she was needed in the kirsch family plot , and I can't argue with that
but imma bitch abt it anyways.
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halleyuhm · 6 months
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Trick or treat!!!!!!! - @maddstermind
You've got a treat!
Here's a chat scene from Route LXVI. I had to ultimately put it aside because it was not progressing the plot in an already slow chapter, but it was fun to write, and it worked as a great character study. Plus, it marks the beginning of Liv's worst lie~~
The layout is a bit weird because I normally write my chats adjusted to the left or right according to who is talking. Here in Tumblr it's a bit different. Bear with me. There it goes:
You:
Hey remember this convo from the neolitic era
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Highzs🎱:
LMAOOO where did you find this?
You:
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Got them by digging in ancient discord convos
Highzs🎱:
Damn I didn't know grammar
That youre is killing me
You:
Aw I think you were trying to spell cool
like pot8os
Highzs🎱:
pot8os I'm deceased
You:
When you used to write everything wrong on purpose
Highzs🎱:
to mess up with you
so you wouldn't know when I actually spelt something incorrectly due to me being an idiot
You:
being dyslexic is not cinamons with being and idiot
Highzs🎱:
Synonyms*
You:
I did it on purpose!
Highzs 🎱
You are missing an n too
You:
I don't rely on the autoccorrect
Highzs 🎱
Such a helpful tool, though
Could have saved me some misunderstandings
You:
HAHAHAH
LOWZS I JUST REMEMBERD
That one time you told us that you were sick
Highzs 🎱
HAHAHAH NOOOO
You:
YOU TOLD US YOU HAD ANIME
And I spent the whole afternoon searching "anime illness" on Google
and getting top tens instead of answers
Highzs 🎱
HAHSHHSHS SORRY
But that's the reason you finally watched Your lie in April, so worth it
👉👉
You:
👉👉
Probably my fave dyslexia moment
Highzs 🎱
And meanwhile Soda like
Sucks dude, wanna play some Smash until you get better or
You:
HAHAHAHAH
I distinctly remember the moment you said you just needed iron and he went like what
Highz 🎱
He still teases me about it
Did you know that
In those screenshots you sent
In that conversation
I was kinda
Hinting
Towards him
You:
WHAT
I JUST CHIKES WHAT
Highzs🎱:
WHAT??
You:
CHOKED
I'm rearesding everything
Highzs🎱:
Hahaha really???
Ok you are
Hey runt come back down
You:
I'm back
Dammit Lou
I'm going to be so honest
During that whole conversation
I thought you were talking about me
Highzs🎱:
HAHAHAHA I KNEW IT RUNT
The moment you said
"You know you could tell me anything right?"
You:
I was so abviously trying to ease you idiot
I wanted to be a good friend regardless of the feeling situation
I was so off though, damn
Highzs🎱:
Awwww that's so sweet
I actually did like you for a while though
I was pretty confused
You:
Haha no bet
I'm glad you told me <3
Even though I already knew it lmao
Highzs🎱:
Me too
Now
*uno reverse card*
Tell me who you were referring to
You:
NO SHOT
Highzs🎱:
As that written statement proves
We made a promise for a 50/50
Anytime one of us confesses, the other has to do so
You:
Yeah ._. but I wanted to talk about the present, not the past
Highzs🎱:
The present? Weren't you with Percy?
You:
Uhm I could be poly
Highzs🎱:
Alright, intriguing
But first things first
Years later I'll know who you were referring to in that convo
You:
Man, you already know
Highzs🎱:
Say it
Saaaayyyy it
I'm waiting
You:
Man we were rivals and didn't even know it
Highzs🎱:
Nameeeee
You:
Good grief
It was Soda
Highzs🎱:
WHAT
You:
Don't act surprised you knew it
Highzs🎱:
Okay runt
Why did you never tell me
You:
You've activated my trap card!
Same question back to you
Highzs🎱:
Sexuality struggles plus one of the pivotal points was you
You:
I didn't expect a sound answer
Highzs🎱:
You?
You:
Struggles
Highzs🎱:
Fair enough
You:
I'm returning now to compensate though
I didn't send the screenshots for nothing
If you will also tell me your name, of course
Highzs🎱:
That's the promise we made so
You:
100%?
Highzs🎱:
Cross my heart and hope to die
On three?
You:
Uhh nice
On three
1
Highzs🎱:
1
You:
2!
Highzs🎱:
3!
I like Maeve
You:
I think I like Gray
HWAT
Highzs🎱:
What?????
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pesterloglog · 4 months
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Terezi Pyrope, John Egbert, Karkat Vantas, Gamzee Makara, Kanaya Maryam, Sollux Captor
Act 6, page 7375-7382
TEREZI: JOHN, WH4T H4V3 YOU DON3!
JOHN: whew! that was close.
TEREZI: WHY 4R3 YOU H3R3??
TEREZI: HOW 4R3 YOU H3R3???
JOHN: it's a long story terezi. don't worry about it.
JOHN: the important thing here is, we did it. everything's going to be ok now.
TEREZI: D1D WH4T?!
JOHN: um...
JOHN: i'm not sure, actually.
TEREZI: OH MY FUCK1NG GOD
JOHN: well, i just clobbered vriska and knocked her out, like you said.
JOHN: jeez, i hope i didn't punch too hard...
JOHN: wow, she's really down for the count, isn't she.
JOHN: i got a lot of extra punching practice in my fight with the skull jerk.
JOHN: maybe i gained a bit too much man grit for my own good?
TEREZI: WH4T 4R3 YOU T4LK1NG 4BOUT!
TEREZI: DO YOU H4V3 4NY 1D34 WH4T YOU'V3 JUST DON3?
JOHN: yes.
JOHN: i randomly appeared and knocked vriska out cold, just like the scarf told me to.
TEREZI: WH4T SC4RF???
JOHN: um...
JOHN: this one?
TEREZI: YOU W3R3N'T SUPPOS3D TO DO TH1S!
TEREZI: 1 W4S SUPPOS3D TO K1LL H3R!
TEREZI: YOU JUST DOOM3D US 4LL!!!
JOHN: no, no...
JOHN: i mean, yeah, it was supposed to go that way originally!
JOHN: but now it doesn't have to, because of like, weird retcon magic, and also your crazy mind schemes.
TEREZI: M1ND SCH3M3S?!
JOHN: yes.
JOHN: well, you from years in the future, just before you died.
JOHN: i got help from your older, possibly wiser self. you helped me come back here, using the mysteries of the mind.
TEREZI: 1 S33
TEREZI: BUT TH4T DO3S NOT 4NSW3R TH3 MOST 1MPORT4NT QU3ST1ON OF 4LL
JOHN: what.
TEREZI: WHY 4R3 YOU SUCH 4 DORK?!
JOHN: shut up!
TEREZI: L3T M3 S33 TH4T SC4RF
JOHN: no!!
TEREZI: Y3S, G1V3 1T H3R3
JOHN: no, quit it!
TEREZI: YOU FUCK3D W1TH TH3 4LPH4 T1M3L1N3. 1 W4NT 4NSW3RS
JOHN: hey, i had to jump through a lot of your lame prankstery hoops to get here!
JOHN: plus i saved vriska from your back stabbing ways, so you don't need to do that for... whatever stupid reason you were going to?
JOHN: how about a little gratitude!
TEREZI: JUST T3LL M3 WH4T TH3 SC4RF S4YS
TEREZI: 1 N33D TO KNOW WH4T 1 S41D!
JOHN: look, all it says is this list of bloody passwords and instructions, most of which are dumb pranks!
TEREZI: PR4NKS? >:?
JOHN: yeah, i think so.
TEREZI: WHY WOULD 1 S3ND YOU B4CK 1N T1M3 TO PL4Y PR4NKS
JOHN: because you're a weirdo!
TEREZI: SCR3W YOU!
TEREZI: W41T
TEREZI: SO YOU 4CTU4LLY W3R3 TH3 ON3 WHO STOL3 MY DR4GON, 4ND WROT3 THOS3 NOT3S?
JOHN: yeah.
TEREZI: WHY
JOHN: i don't know!
JOHN: you told me to.
JOHN: probably to prevent you from fucking up your life?
TEREZI: 4ND YOU'R3 SUR3 YOU D1DN'T JUST M4K3 4 DOOM3D T1M3L1N3 H3R3?
JOHN: yeah, pretty sure!
JOHN: this is like, a fresh start. from this point on.
TEREZI: G1MM3 TH3 SC4RF
JOHN: no! stop badgering me about the damn scarf!!!
TEREZI: 1T'S M1N3 THOUGH, 1T H4S MY BLOOD ON 1T!
JOHN: no, it belonged to my dear departed FRIEND, her name was *future* terezi!
TEREZI: YOU B4ST4RD >:x
JOHN: look, it doesn't even say anything else, i already did everything!
JOHN: wait...
TEREZI: WH4T
JOHN: ok, there is one last thing i have to do.
TEREZI: WH4T
JOHN: it says i have to give you my wallet.
TEREZI: WH4T??
JOHN: but...
JOHN: i don't actually have my wallet?
TEREZI: YOU DONT?
JOHN: no.
JOHN: i lost it years ago.
JOHN: i think i gave it to...
JOHN: damn. who was it.
JOHN: liv tyler, the bunny?
JOHN: or was it that short chess dude.
JOHN: shit!
TEREZI: WHY WOULD 1 T3LL YOU TO G1V3 M3 YOUR W4LL3T 1F YOU DON'T H4V3 1T
JOHN: i guess you didn't realize i lost it??
JOHN: hell, even i can't remember what items we still have half the time.
JOHN: terezi, just between you, me, unconscious vriska, and that dumb clown there, this adventure has been one huge mess.
TEREZI: WH4T COULD 3V3N B3 SO 1MPORT4NT 4BOUT G1V1NG M3 YOUR W4LL3T?
JOHN: hmm.
JOHN: actually, it says give "her" your wallet.
JOHN: did "her" mean you, or vriska?
TEREZI: ???
JOHN: i guess it's a moot point, since i don't have it.
JOHN: let's just call it one small flaw in your otherwise mostly stupid plan, and get on with our lives.
TEREZI: 1T'S NOT MY PL4N!
JOHN: yes it is!
JOHN: or, was.
JOHN: i mean, will be.
JOHN: or... won't be anymore? now that we changed stuff.
TEREZI: UGH, SHUT UP
TEREZI: M4YB3 1F YOU COULD T3LL M3 *WHY* W3 N33D TH3 W4LL3T, W3 COULD M4K3 OTH3R PL4NS TO COMP3NS4T3?
JOHN: um.
JOHN: i dunno. maybe you need to captcha something really big?
TEREZI: L1K3 WH4T
JOHN: i don't know!
JOHN: it's just some vague crap you wrote on a scarf!
KARKAT: JOHN????
JOHN: oh fuck.
KARKAT: HOW IN THE CONTEMPTIBLE NAME OF MY PERMANENTLY HATE-SOILED JERKOFF TROUSERS CAN YOU ***POSSIBLY*** BE HERE?!
JOHN: no, i'm not doing this!
JOHN: i'm not explaining the retcon shit again!
KARKAT: RET-WHAT SHIT??
KARKAT: WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO VRISKA?
KARKAT: IS
KARKAT: IS THAT *GAMZEE* TIED UP ON THE FLOOR THERE?
KARKAT: WITH A HORN SHOVED IN HIS MOUTH???
GAMZEE: *HONK*
JOHN: sigh.
KARKAT: TEREZI, WHY IS GAMZEE TIED UP ON THE FLOOR.
KARKAT: I WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT YOU. I THOUGHT HE HAD GOTTEN TO YOU FOR SURE.
TEREZI: TH4T 1S SW33T OF YOU K4RK4T, BUT TH3R3 W4S NO N33D TO WORRY
TEREZI: 1 CR4CK3D TH3 C4S3
TEREZI: W1TH 1NV3ST1G4T1ON SK1LLS L1K3 M1N3, 1T W4S 1N3V1T4BL3 >:]
JOHN: (lmao.)
KARKAT: UM, OK???
KARKAT: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF SOMEBODY TOLD ME WHAT SORT OF PREPOSTEROUS SHIT WAS TAKING PLACE UP HERE.
KARKAT: WHAT HAPPENED TO VRISKA? WHY IS SHE PASSED OUT ON THE FUCKING FLOOR?!
JOHN: because i punched her in the face.
KARKAT: WHAT
JOHN: you heard me.
KARKAT: OK, JOHN, LISTEN. FIRST OF ALL, SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.
KARKAT: I DON'T EVEN KNOW *WHERE* TO BEGIN ADDRESSING THE GLOBE NUMBING ABSURDITY OF YOUR SUDDEN PRESENCE ON THIS METEOR.
KARKAT: LET'S JUST AWKWARDLY STRAFE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THAT HUMONGOUS, STINK-BELCHING TRUNKBEAST IN THE ROOM, AND LET THE VIOLENTLY UNINHIBITED NERD-GRILLING COMMENCE.
KARKAT: *WHY* DID YOU PUNCH VRISKA IN THE FACE??????????
KARKAT: I MEAN...
KARKAT: NOT THAT I NECESSARILY BLAME YOU, BUT STILL.
JOHN: karkat, take it easy.
JOHN: here, read this.
KARKAT: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.
JOHN: it's all on the scarf, buddy.
JOHN: it's all on the scarf.
KARKAT: GET THIS NASTY FUCKING RAG OUT OF MY PROXIMITY!
TEREZI: H3Y, TH4T'S M1N3!
KANAYA: Uh
JOHN: oh man.
JOHN: this is turning into a stupid circus.
GAMZEE: *HONK*
JOHN: shh!
JOHN: i should really get out of here.
JOHN: the time line is already boned enough as it is without me hanging around.
KARKAT: WHAT? YOU'RE LEAVING ALREADY??
JOHN: i mean...
JOHN: i guess it doesn't matter THAT much if i'm here?
JOHN: we already changed history like... almost completely?
JOHN: that was kind of the point.
JOHN: vriska's not dead anymore, so that means...
JOHN: wait, what does that actually mean?
KARKAT: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!
KARKAT: WHAT'S THIS SHIT ABOUT VRISKA BEING DEAD? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!
KANAYA: Vriskas Dead?
KARKAT: NO!!!!!!!!!
KARKAT: SHE'S ASLEEP ON THE FLOOR OVER THERE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!
JOHN: so, that means i'll never be able to get the life ring from tavros...
JOHN: but i already have the ring? so i guess that doesn't matter?
SOLLUX: wh0's talking.
JOHN: wait, does this really mean vriska's ghost stops existing, or...
JOHN: is her ghost just going to keep existing in the dream bubbles because of "reasons"?
KANAYA: Karkat What Is He Doing Here
KARKAT: WOW, GREAT QUESTION!
KARKAT: WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A FUCKING NUMBER AND GET IN LINE FOR THAT ONE!!!
KARKAT: I'VE ALREADY GOT MINE! IT'S THE FIRST NUMBER THERE IS. AN ANGRY, TREMBLING DIGIT, TOWERING AND ERECT, POINTING DIRECTLY AT THE TRASHFACED KINGPIN OF INEXPLICABLE HORSESHIT HIMSELF, *GOD*!!!!!
JOHN: and if i never ended up meeting her ghost...
JOHN: i guess i never stuck my hand in the house thing to get the retcon powers in the first place, so how...
JOHN: god damn it.
KARKAT: HER GHOST??????
KARKAT: HE'S TALKING ABOUT GHOSTS EVERYBODY!
KARKAT: EVERYBODY LISTEN, HE'LL SURELY EXPLAIN EVERYTHING ANY SECOND NOW! THIS SHOULD BE GREAT!
SOLLUX: can s0me0ne please tell me wh0 is talking.
KARKAT: SHHHHH, SOLLUX PIPE DOWN! HE'S ABOUT TO SPILL THE FART NIBLETS, I CAN FEEL IT!!!!!!!!!!!
JOHN: ok guys, really, i've messed with your time line enough as it is.
JOHN: sorry for clocking you, vriska, if you can hear me in your dreams. haha, you probably can't.
JOHN: but hey, i guess this means i get to meet alive you soon, instead of ghost you? so that's neat.
KARKAT: EGBERT DON'T YOU DARE FUCK OFF
JOHN: please tell her i'm sorry for punching her in the face.
JOHN: but also, she's welcome for saving her life.
JOHN: i'll see you guys later. um, in three years to be precise.
KARKAT: WHAT???
KARKAT: NO, DON'T
KARKAT: YOU STAY THE HELL PUT. DO YOU HEAR ME YOU UGLY, PEEJAY PACKING, FLAPSNIFFING SHIT INFANT
JOHN: bye dude!
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 years
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They keep bringing in these awful rapist family connections in and then never know what to do with them. For me the worst example was they brought Liv in as a connection to Gordon. I remember as abuse era was coming to an end and Aaron should've been allowed to start moving on, but no. No no, he had to go to Gordon's funeral to support Liv, had to talk to Liv about Gordon's money, had to put up with Liv's feelings about Gordon in general instead of focusing on himself. And then she just never fucking left. Every time they had one of their depressing conversations about Gordon over the years, all I could think was that we wouldn't have to watch this if they'd just never shoved her into his life. Ryan's arrival wasn't quite as bad but again there's not really a point to his character and I'm not sure him and Charity really work. And same with Victoria being pregnant, if that hadn't happened then there would've been no reason for Wendy to stick around as a permanent character and become her "family." It's such a gross trend and it needs to stop.
I mean Liv probably bothers me the least on principle as far as bringing in family members of rapists goes because it was canon that Aaron had a younger sibling out there somewhere. And I was genuinely curious about that relationship and had been prior to her arrival because I thought Aaron having a sibling relationship could have been interesting.
As for how they wrote her into the story post trial? I don't disagree. Largely because I'm on "team Aaron never should have been her guardian" because as you say, he should have been able to focus on himself and dealing with all of that trauma and he just wasn't able to for a number of reasons but Liv's presence and having to look after her was certainly a big one. And I certainly wish they had at least waited to bring her in for a few weeks/months to give him time to process or to give Robron time but that's another matter entirely. They really should have either had her stay with Chas or just kept Sandra slightly more competent and had them both move to the village and Aaron could have just been her brother without having the weight of the world on his shoulders when it came to her.
Ryan I feel like was the most pointless of the bunch. Now obviously bringing in a character/actor with cp is great from a representation standpoint but he did not have to be Charity's long lost son with Bails as his father. He was not a canon child that we knew about. It was absolutely a retcon and felt like it was just like "oh you had this traumatic rape story but here's a kid as a reward!" and I hate that. Plus they've done nothing good with him being Charity's son and I generally hate their whole relationship.
Harry is probably the most offensive of the bunch because Vic wanted a child so much and that...that was how they chose to give one to her. And then add to that saddling her with Wendy and having to be close with not only the mother of her rapist but the woman who didn't believe her and repeatedly harassed her was horrible. Plus bringing Luke in as Lee's brother...ugh. Her having a story about moving on with the cute guy from the hospital canteen? Cool. But having a gotcha moment where he turns out to be Lee's brother? Gross. And then just continuing to force it despite her very valid reservations was awful.
Marcus just also feels unnecessary. Like by all means bring in this guy as a new character but did he have to be related to Pierce? What is the point? Other than torturing his victims more? Especially because they've already brought Pierce back once randomly to ruin Rhona's life more and now they have to bring it all up again with this random retconned son? Why? And who even knows what kind of person he's going to turn out to be? If he turns out to be a decent guy? Then why bother with the Pierce connection? If he turns out to be a monster? Then it's just terrible because they're just continuing to torture Rhona with this Pierce stuff and it just seems like overkill.
I just want new producers but this is clearly a trend across many and Emmerdale as an entity needs to stop with this trend. And this team in general needs to realize that they can introduce new characters without having to have some convoluted connection to existing character. If they must be connected somehow, why not just like...a coworker? Haha. Jesse wasn't the greatest character, but brining in a new headmistress at the school all the kids go to was actually a decent way to intro a character and have her be instantly relevant to the community. Sort of like bringing in a new family to buy the pub would have been. Sigh...
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rahleeyah · 3 years
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As much as I like the idea of Angela being the mastermind behind everything I'm still not entirely sold on it. I do hope that if she is they don't give her a redemption arc - I do want her to be sorry that Kathy died but adament that it had to happen sort of thing. Sinatra's willingness to rat her out makes sense but would Richard really kill his father to protect his ex-wife? I'm still stuck on why a hit was put out on Kathy tho. If they wanted to get to Elliot then ok Kathy is a good way to do that but why wait til she's in the US? On that note if they wanted to kidnap Eli why not grab him in Rome? At least part of Richard's organisation is in Puglia & surely that would have been easier? I feel like Kathy is involved somehow (probably as an unsuspecting witness but if they wanted to go the Eli is Richard's route I wouldn't be mad) because just killing her to get to Elliot doesn't really make sense right now (that may change after 1x06) - especially since he didn't appear to be any threat to Richard/his organisation before. Kathy's death is the reason they are so close now. I do think Kathy used Liv's award ceremony as an excuse of some sort to accompany Elliot back - maybe to throw him off so he wouldn't ask too many questions? Elliot had the trial to attend & they have 4 kids in the US which is a good enough reason for her to be there. Plus it's been 10 years of no contact with Liv (even if Kathy didn't believe that) so why put so much emphasis on the ceremony as the reason they were there? There is just so many ways this could go & the fact that we've only got 3 OC episodes left is making me a little nervous; especially since it appears that Richard & Angela won't be back for S2. Even with an SVU crossover or two, can they really get everything wrapped up in time?
Anon just reading this made me tired bc you're so right - THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS. I do want Angela to be unapologetic - like she did what she had to do. Whatever the rationale was. I don't want it to be like. Poor pitiful Angela needs Elliot to take care of her. She's smarter than he is she deserves better 🤣 I have this suspicion she may die. It is based on absolutely nothing at all but I can't shake it 🤷🏼‍♀️ but you're absolutely right why do it like this why wait until they were stateside? What was the big deal with the ceremony? Why was Kathy the one pushing it?? If she spent ten years thinking her husband was lying about having contact with another woman why did she want him to see Liv again so bad? I do think Kathy knows how important they are to each other and I do think Kathy has love for Liv in her own way like I do think Kathy would be like "this is a really big deal for Liv and we're there for your trial anyway you need to be there" but I just. I have so many questions 🤣
This waiting a week between episodes thing is NOT IT i got high blood pressure I can't deal with this
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restlesstheoryqfab · 3 years
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text | LivQuinn
Liv: I was just looking back in my camera roll and found a picture of us in the dungeon :sweat smile emoji: :sweat smile emoji:
Quinn: oh God
Liv: We looked so rough LOL
Quinn: I'm sure we did
Liv: How are you?
Liv: Did I see somewhere your tour ended?
Liv: You going back to California?
Quinn: m'fine
Quinn: That it did.
Quinn: Nah. Headed back to Boston.
Liv: Oh! So I’ll get to see you then??
Liv: When will you be around?
Liv: It’s been ages
Quinn: Yup
Quinn: Got plans Monday, presumably I'll be required to make an appearance at Fran's on Tuesday, but I could probably do sometime on Tuesday?
Quinn: That it has.
Liv: That’s so far
Quinn: It's Tuesday or you wait even more.
Liv: Ugh the worst
Liv: why can’t you be around nowwwwwww
Quinn: Because I'm not
Liv: I’ll wait
Liv: Since I have to
Quinn: believe me, I'd prefer to be around
Liv: Are you close enough for me to drive to you?
Liv: The pictures were so hot!
Quinn: I'm busy.
Liv: Oh, okay. No worries
Quinn: Post tour shit is a bitch
Liv: I mean, I imagine so. So much physical and emotional work. When I was on tour it felt like we never went to bed.
Quinn: I love being on tour. I hate coming off it.
Liv: Sounds like you ate too many edibles
Quinn: I wish.
Liv: Do you want some?
Quinn: God no. Fran would kill me.
Liv: So? Edibles are basically good for you
Liv: Plus they just help you sleep
Quinn: You convince miss high and mighty of that.
Liv: Maybe she just cares about you?
Liv: Well, if you decide you want some lemme know.
Quinn: She does, but she's also anti-everything fun
Liv: Fun is relative. Different for everyone.
Liv: sounds like you need fun, grumpy
Quinn: But weed is nearly always fun, and Frannie turns up her nose at it.
Quinn: I need a fucking break is what I need.
Liv: plus how do you know Frannie hasn’t made edibles before? She definitely has.
Liv: You’re literally on break
Quinn: Is my withdrawal brain reading shit wrong or did you just say that Frannie, Francine Grace Fabray MADE edibles?!
Liv: She did! On Sunday.
Quinn: The fuck?
Liv: It’s why I have them
Quinn: You made edibles with my sister?
Quinn: god this feels like a hallucination
Liv: I did!
Liv: They’re so yummy too
Quinn: What fucking world did I faze into that my sister is making edibles?
Liv: Why does it matter?
Liv: It just means she doesn’t care if you let me bring you some
Quinn: She'll still fuckin kill me
Liv: I just wanna chill with you Fabray
Quinn: I'm probably the last fucker in Boston you really wanna hang out with.
Liv: Hey now, don’t put words in my mouth :frowning emoji:
Quinn: I'm not good company right now.
Liv: That’s okay. I can just drop cookies off?
Quinn: No. It'd be a bad idea. I don't know what adding that onto everything else would do. Would like to at least give Fran the chance to kill me.
Liv: Okay. I’ll bring some Tuesday then. How’s that?
Quinn: Sounds great. And tell whichever of the women in that house you're talking to that I know what I'm doing.
Liv: You sure about that?
Quinn: Yeah, this isn't my first rodeo.
Liv: Well they love you
Quinn: Doesn't always feel like like it. Fucking snitch.
Liv: Rather be a snitch then lose you
Quinn: I was talking about Bea. Though you're not much better.
Liv: What did she do?
Quinn: Tattled to Frannie
Liv: she is the baby
Quinn: And I told her I was fine.
Liv: Yeah, I mean drugs usually don’t equate to fine. But it’s fine.
Liv: What do you have going on Monday?
Quinn: I'm detoxing. It's fine.
Quinn: high school reunion of the horny variety, apparently
Liv: But why stop if you wanna do them so bad?
Liv: Ooooooh
Liv: Gross
Quinn: Frannie. And I only trust one guy to supply me, though after this my trust is wavering.
Quinn: Pretty little brat that I'm inclined to believe is as good with her mouth as she says.
Liv: So you stopped enough to trick her?
Liv: Hopefully she’s not lying
Quinn: If she thought I wasn't using she didn't worry.
Quinn: Pretty little song bird who also doesn't know how to shut up. So if that woman doesn't know how to put that mouth of hers to good use, well, she knows what I'll do to her.
Liv: Looks like you’re spots been blown up unfortunately
Liv: What now?
Liv: Hopefully she shuts up enough to use her mouth
Quinn: Fuck if I know.
Quinn: She likes being put in her place, I'm sure I can that mouth to do what I want it to.
Liv: Cool
Liv: sounds funnnn
Quinn: I should ask if she's gotten rid of her reindeer sweater...
Liv: LOL u joking?
Quinn: This girl wore short fucking skirts, knee high socks, and sweaters so fucking often. And no matter how much teasing and bullying occurred she wouldn't change. Even her so-called friends tried to get her to toss the fucking reindeer sweater and she just wouldn't.
Liv: Well, stubborn can be fun. I think.
Liv: My brother always wears funny bow ties. People don’t appreciate them but he does it anyways.
Quinn: Bowties I can appreciate. Unflattering sweaters with reindeer I cannot
Liv: They were unflattering even with the knee socks?
Quinn: From ankle to waist she was perfect. Great legs, an amazing ass. And then BOOM reindeer
Liv: LOL you’ll have to let me know what she wears cause I’m big curious
Quinn: Hopefully not much. But yeah, I'll let you know
Liv: She shows up naked. Could you imagine :laughing cat emoji:
Quinn: If she wasn't meeting in public first I am not entirely sure I'd complain.
Liv: Why public if you know each other?
Quinn: Because it's been 11 years since high school and I'm not stupid enough to give someone I barely know my address?
Liv: Did she know your address back then? :winking emoji:
Quinn: No. My father would have had a conniption if I even entertained the idea of being acquainted with her.
Liv: Ohhhhhh
Liv: Romeo and Juliet vibes :laughing cat emoji: :laughing cat emoji: laughing cat emoji:
Quinn: I wanted nothing to do with her back then. Except when I could get her angry enough to storm off so I could watch her go.
Liv: So you kinda wanted something to do with her
Quinn: I wanted less to do with her than she wanted to do with me.
Liv: Omg was she in love with you
Quinn: She wanted me to fuck her in the locker room. Apparently on multiple occasions.
Liv: Jesus
Liv: that’s hot
Quinn: Spanking included
Liv: Well then
Quinn: Mmhmm
Liv: Well hopefully she’s just horny for you and not obsessed with you
Quinn: I've had worse people obsessed with me
Liv: Fair enough.
Liv: So what are you going to make her do?
Quinn: Haven't decided yet.
Liv: No fair
Quinn: I mean, she's given me so many ideas. Definitely like the idea of spanking her, getting her on her knees, not letting her up until I'm satisfied."
Liv: you could kill her between your legs and she probably wouldn’t care
Quinn: Probably
Liv: That’s a sacrifice I’d probably take too
Quinn: Is that so?
Liv: For sure
Quinn: Interesting.
Quinn: So, you and Frannie?
Liv: We’re friends because of Arin! Love that woman
Quinn: Okay, but like how are you two JUST NOW connecting? I mean, you and the queen of darkness have known each other for a while, right?
Liv: It just sort of happened, idk
Liv: the same way you spent your summers with my Blaine
Quinn: Excuse me what?
Liv: Blaine Anderson | Liv Anderson
Quinn: Bruh.
Liv: Tell me about it. I could have gotten into so many pants way sooner.
Quinn: So like, why weren't you?
Liv: You know, dads suck!
Quinn: Mood
Liv: I punched him in the face and he shipped me off to boarding school :sunglasses emoji:
Quinn: Damn, I wish
Quinn: I just write songs about mine
Liv: Mine doesn’t exist to me anymore so no songs need to be written
Liv: At least they are good!!!
Quinn: I'm sure I don't exist to him but that doesn't make the trauma and shit nonexistent
Liv: Neither does the drugs
Quinn: The drugs have very little to do with THAT bastard
Liv: Okay. My apologies.
Liv: They still don’t help trauma
Quinn: They stop the memories way more than you'd think
Liv: Doesn’t make it the way
Quinn: Yeah, well they work.
Liv: I know
Quinn: and that's the part that matters.
Quinn: so like how did you get her to make edibles?
Liv: I asked her
Quinn: What the ever loving fuck have I missed the last 9 months?
Liv: I don’t know LOL
Quinn: Neither do I.
Liv: The world just got smaller mostly.
Liv: and everyone is horny and kinky
Liv: Or both
Quinn: Both, definitely both.
Liv: Specially them Fabray girls
Quinn: Not all of us.
Liv: All of you dude
Quinn: Last a checked my not-so-closeted older sister is still in fact a sex free bitch. And as much as even I know kink isn't always sexual, Frannie might have an interested, but that definitely doesn't result in actually being willing.
Liv: An interest is enough for me to label you all kinky. That’s all.
Quinn: Okay then
Liv: And you are horny I’m sure
Quinn: nah, withdrawal sucks that shit right outta ya. Hoping I don't have to cancel Monday, honestly
Liv: omg that’d break her heart probably
Quinn: Probably
Liv: such power
Quinn: Mmhmm
Liv: if you cancel on her let’s hang out
Quinn: If I cancel on her it will be because I still feel like death
Liv: and I can’t take care of you?
Quinn: Why would you want to?
Liv: Friends take care of friends
Liv: I messaged you because I was hoping you’d let me come over to help you. It just also meant I could let Frannie know you are okay
Quinn: I'm fine, Liv, really. Just some extra shit I wasn't expecting to deal with.
Liv: You guys are so fucking frustrating holy shit
Liv: Okay. I get it. But I want to help. And I’m here for you. That’s all. You can believe it and I hope you would but I won’t force you.
Quinn: I know I am. Bea, if you know her is too. But what's frustrating about Frannie? Like, from a you perspective?
Quinn: I just don't need the help right now, okay? Go be a brat to someone who can handle it
Liv: She doesn’t take a single compliment.
Liv: I’m not being a brat I’m trying to be a friend
Quinn: Is there a reason you're trying that hard to compliment my sister?
Quinn: You're being a bratty friend.
Liv: It’s easy to?
Quinn: ... You like her don't you
Liv: We’re friends. Obviously I like her.
Quinn: Bitch, you know what I mean
Liv: I haven’t thought about it like that tbh
Liv: Maybe I do
Liv: That’s fun
Quinn: Does she know? Does she like you back? I need details bitch
Liv: You think she knows when I didn’t know?
Quinn: I don't know. Maybe? Like does she like you?
Liv: I mean she likes hanging out with me and made edibles with me
Quinn: Mmhm. And?
Liv: What do you mean and? We just chill a lot
Liv: And laugh a lot lol
Quinn: Okay. That's something. But also you're terrible at this. I'm gonna have to ask Arin. Arin knows these things.
Liv: Arin knows everything
Liv: I also don’t know anything right now outside the fact that I’m seconds from exploding
Quinn: Except how to fall in love with someone who WON'T cheat on her.
Quinn: Getting relief, I hope?
Liv: low blow
Liv: Maybe she can date Bea. Bea doesn’t know anyone but us.
Liv: Yes sooooon
Quinn: But the truth.
Quinn: Don't know how I feel about that. Though, pretty sure she had a crush on Arin when we were younger.
Quinn: oooh
Liv: I mean who didn’t have a crush on Arin? LOL
Liv: oooooh
Quinn: Frannie. And presumably Blaine.
Quinn: Who???
Liv: Wonder if Sugar did. She’s worse than anyone I know when it comes to realizing feelings LOL
Liv: Arin
Quinn: Sugar had it BAD. Like, literally got her ass beat multiple times with a book cos she refused to leave Arin alone. Now she just pretends to hate her for it.
Quinn: enjoy the queen of darkness, you both probbaly need it though like... does Frannie know?
Liv: LOLOLOLOLOLOl
Liv: Yeah, I think she knows. I mean I don’t know how she wouldn’t know.
Quinn: uh huh. and do you know if she reacted to this?
Liv: What do you mean?
Liv: I don’t know.
Liv: she said she didn’t need Arin
Quinn: I mean how did she react. Was it normal. Was it short. Did it take longer or faster than it should have.
Liv: She gets short a lot. I didn’t really note it as different
Liv: This is so much
Quinn: Well, when you have a chance, compare what everytime she's gotten short with you has in common and met me know
Liv: Quinn, I really like sex and she doesn’t
Liv: I don’t think we could ever work
Liv: it’s not that serious
Quinn: Look, I can't say why she's repulsed lord knows that's her story to tell, but she's on that site for a reason. A reason that I pray means what I think it does. Don't count her out because of her history.
Liv: I’m not counting her out. I just think you’ve got it all wrong.
Quinn: I don't think I do. But Arin will know more and I will get my answer. Just think over why she gets short with you.
Liv: Stubborn :sweat emoji:
Quinn: Fabray genetics. Running away, being attractive, a desire to be right.
Liv: can you like wait to bug arin until I’m done with her?
Quinn: You mean til she's done with you, but yeah, I'm gonna go pass out
Liv: goodnight Quinn :winking emoji:
Quinn: enjoy the queen of darkness
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thetimelordbatgirl · 7 years
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I was wondering, how did them adding Dove's real boyfriend ruin the character Maddie for a bit? I haven't Liv & Maddie in a while, so I don't know that much (though I don't mind spoilers) and I didn't even know that the man who played (Doug?) was her real life boyfriend til just now. So, I'm sorry for the possibly silly question.
Tbh, Maddie and Diggie was fine- I honestly don’t know when Dove and Ryan started dating- I just know apparently they were around the time the whole love triangle of Maddie/Josh/Diggie happened in the show- as prior to season 3, Maddie and Diggie decided to go separate ways as a result of a long going argument/fall out over Maddie and Diggies break up- and that leads to season 3 where later on, Liv’s co-star Josh and Maddie started dating (please note, this was set up by Liv in some sense as well)- which was fine, they were more cute and really, I kinda liked how we at least got Maddie prior to dating him, unlike instantly introducing the love interest in the first episode….then again which show of D.C hasn’t done that in modern DC….
But the problem comes in the episode when Diggie comes back- we not only in this ep see Liv and Holden break up, but also Diggie return- and both are tied here, as the reason Holden and Liv broke up was because a news reporter took a picture of Maddie and Josh while the pair were on a date, believing Maddie to be Liv as Maddie had no glasses on at the time and I think her hair was down?
But Liv soon has to pick- help her sister protect her secret dating life from Diggie (they were separated at this point, meaning its not cheating, its just kinda…Maddie being afraid) until Maddie can clear it up with Diggie or clear it up with the news that it was Maddie, not Liv, with Josh for Holden- this leads to Liv choosing Maddie and in the process, Holden feeling like Liv has no room for him and in the end, breaking up.
Now Maddie in the end decides to cheer up Liv by taking her to a restraunt- while Liv is getting a table though, Diggie suddenly turns up (was it ever explained how Diggie KNEW she was there? like, it never was….was he stalking her or something?) and Diggie admits he came to get Maddie back as he saw the picture and is upset Maddie has moved on- much to Maddies shock, and Liv doesn’t help when she presses onto Maddie, that Maddie has to choose- end episode.
Next Ep….lord, what happened to Maddies character was horrible- she lost her independence in this episode! She wasn’t allowed a choice in the love triangle! Like, at the beginning its revealed she told Diggie she needs space…only for Diggie to disrespect that space and come in on it acting like Maddies a prize just cause she moved on and was clearly happy- but this train wreck continues when just when we get happy Maddie at the wedding of Gemma and Johnny Nimbus…Joey reveals Diggie was his plus 1, and Diggie reveals to us, the viewers, he wants to give Miggie one last chance and essentially seems to be caring more about his feelings then Maddies, who not only has a boyfriend then but is also very clear shes happy with Josh- meaning Diggie…came off as terrible really.
When the wedding happens- cue trainwreck, as Maddie has a…more of a BRTOP moment tbh, with Diggie where he and she throw bread rolls into hats of people- but Liv…somehow sees it as romance and claims she somehow knows Maddies romance better then Maddie herself does….which Maddie weakly protests too but never stops Liv from talking to Artie and then both acting like Maddies a prize for Diggie to win, yes, this is right- EVEN LIV IS DOING THIS, HER OWN TWIN FOR THAT MATTER- And lets be clear: Liv helped Maddie get with Josh….shes basically being the worst friend and sister there in one shot.
Maddie, throughout this, is not shown- but then of course, the emotional manipulation of Diggie happens when Liv has Diggie play at the wedding instead of Liv and….Maddies choice is made- not by Maddie though, by JOSH- yes, the independent character who told Liv that if Liv meddled in Maddies love life, Maddie would hurt her, just….listened to someones suggestion and went along with it, easily falling for Diggies emotional manipulation in the process and therefore, just…ruining the idea that Maddies independent and makes her own choices, because when it came to love triangles…Maddie got them, not Liv.
And next ep, Diggie doesn’t appear- is mentioned by Maddie simply as Maddie claims shes seeing him over spending time outside with her brother- like….I never got why this trainwreck HAD to happen.
In some sense- I feel like this was Doves relationship that came in- cause DC seems willing to do anything for their new princess, and cause the pair were…engaged, I think at least, at the time- meaning we had to see Maddie ruined in favour of Doves character and Ryans character being together- AND THERE WAS NO POINT? He didn’t appear in season 4 until last episode!
Sorry if I rambled, I just….kinda dislike LAM nowadays after rewatching it…..
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scrapyardboyfriends · 2 years
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Another reason I kind of wish Liv and Vinny had at least a brief discussion about her asexuality before getting hitched is that when they first got together all the way back in 2020 there was a scene where Vinny said he does want to have sex at some point. I can't remember his exact wording but it was definitely something along those lines, then he followed it up by saying all he knew was that he liked Liv so they should just focus on the here and now then think about the other stuff later. Which was completely fine and quite sweet at the time, but now they're married, literally committed to each other forever (in theory anyway, this is soap land after all). You'd think they would both need to have a serious talk about any *ahem* needs going forwards. Is Liv happy to go further than kissing? If not is Vinny just going to have to be sexually frustrated for the rest of his life? Or are they going to come to some sort of open relationship arrangement? You'd think these are all things they'd need to figure out before putting a ring on it! Then again these producers can barely be bothered to remember what happened two weeks let alone two years ago so maybe they've forgotten they even had Vinny say that line in the first place. 🤷‍♂️
I only vaguely remember what you're talking about but I believe you. But yeah, in general, it would be nice if they addressed it on screen, especially because they were doing really well with that for a while with them. They talked about it when they got together. They talked about him moving in and what that meant. They talked about it when she wanted him to move into her room. They talked about it when they said "i love you". Every step got a little bit of conversation about the ace side of things and I really appreciated that. So it would be nice if we got that here.
Plus, the number of comments I've seen saying "did they just forget that Liv is asexual?" in regards to her getting married are kind of infuriating. Because yes, she can be in a relationship and get married and still be ace. She can kiss Vinny and still be ace. Hell, she could even have sex with Vinny and still be ace if they wanted to explain all of the nuance behind that. And they have mentioned it before but Liv also said she didn't want to in that same conversation. So if they were ever going to change that, they'd need to explain it all again. But that's the point, I think they need to remind people what her being ace actually means for her and the relationship and the marriage and for Vinny. And if they want to get into all of those nuances, they can do so. I'm just tired of seeing people confused about it in comments.
I mean maybe they will get to it because I feel like Mandy is bound to bring it up because she usually does, which kind of drives me insane. It's always her go to thing to insult Liv or criticize the relationship. It's why she wanted Vinny to go out with someone "normal" like Belle or whatever. It pisses me off but it would be a decent jumping off point for them to have the discussion on screen. Of course it's obviously something they should have discussed before getting married but maybe they'll say they did talk about it and this would just be where we see it on screen. Or maybe it'll be part of the wakeup call that they did rush into this without thinking it all through.
Or maybe they won't ever discuss any of it and everyone will just remain confused. I hope they don't just ignore it though. And it was important for representation's sake that an asexual character just got married on tv. It was important to a lot of people and I don't want them to totally screw it up now.
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