#qsmp fandom critical

[trashfangirlsworld]

Hello! I've been inactive due to the current events in the mcyt community, but I've been keeping up with the qsmp admin situation and I thought I'd share some opinions because the amount of doomposting I've seen the last few weeks has been more than I've seen in any fandom in a while and I feel like it's reached the point where people really need to chill the fuck out because they're not thinking straight and actively not helping. Everything I'm gonna say is based on stuff I've seen on both tumblr and twitter.

they should not promote/release merch! : one of the things that baffles me the most tbh; how do you expect any employee to be payed then? Merch is so far the only big source of income for the server besides q's own cc salary or whatever income they get through the official qsmp channel on twitch and youtube (which I don't think is a lot). "I get that they said they have no funds, but still it doesn't feel right"... sorry but at this point I don't know what to tell you, do you expect them to pull money out of their asses? You can't demand that they stop making merch and then complain that they can't afford the twitter admins at the same time. If you don't feel comfortable buying anything from them it's fine obviously, but if your reason for it is that you're helping the admins then I have bad news for you. I have seen people propose that quackity sets up a patreon, and while I think it would be a good idea, I understand why he's not doing it, since with the merch he can at least give something back to the people that choose to support his project instead of people just giving him money for free, especially with what's happening now. Also with how much hate he's been receiving simply for the merch I can't imagine that a patreon would be recieved well.

we don't know if the money is going to the admins/ they should not use pomme's likeness! : the money is definitely going to go to the employees and admins because otherwise the server would not last. And as much as I understand people feeling protective over pomme's admin, quackity studios is very much allowed to sell merch of the character because it is not the likeness of the admin, it's a minecraft model made by the people that work there. Would you have rathered they skip her character entirely? Do you really think that would have been okay?. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen posts and tweets saying that pomme's admin has been confirmed to come back with the other eggs whenever it happens by pierre, who talked with her admin.

the admins of the update accounts got fired, it means they want to fire everyone, they aren't making things better! : it sucks that the updates accounts had to end and I feel bad for every twitter admin that clearly cared a lot about the project, but unfortunately it had to happen if there simply isn't enough money to pay them adequately like they deserved and ultimately the update accounts were not essential to keep the project going, so it makes sense that they were let go unfortunately. This is not gonna be the case for the egg admins because if they got fired (which they didn't), the server would basically end. Just because a cc does not know when they will be back does not mean it's not gonna happen. Just because tubbo randomly said that he's not sure if they will be back does not mean they were fired; tubbo is normally not a reliable source of information, even less so when he's been live nonstop for the past 20 days, which is prior to everything happening. If you genuinely didn't expect a reduction in non essential staff considering everything, then you have unreasonable expectations on how this stuff goes. As I write this, I'm seeing people saying that "they would understand this decision if q had set up a patreon to pay the admins", and once again I don't understand how people don't realize why quackity might not be keen on the idea of having his fans pay his own employees for his own project instead of, you know, doing it himself; and, again, do not fool yourself into thinking it would be recieved well. That being said, it's fair to criticize how everything was communicated to the admins, but I'll get to this in more detail later.

quackity should not have uninstalled social media, he's trying to avoid everything! : he's not avoiding anything, he's been off social media for a while now, which is why it took him that long to remove wilbur from the server. He has every right to not want to look at social media, as his focus should be on restructuring his server instead of doomscrolling on twitter because people think he needs to see how much people dislike him. The only people that he should talk to are those that have important information to tell him, like josè with the document. He explicitly said on stream where to contact him if you have helpful information and I'm sure that despite multiple well liked posts saying not to spam his email, people are definitely doing it anyway, which is probably gonna slow the whole thing down even more. I hope josè's document is able to be seen with pierre's help as well.

quackity studios is not communicating with their employees and leaving them in the dark and that's not okay : I agree with this. i think a huge chunk of doomposting lately has been due the lack of communication not with the audience, but with the admins, and they deserve to know what is happening behind the scenes more then us since this is about their current or future job.... that being said, I do kind of understand why they're being so secretive and shutting everyone out, and that's due to all the "leaks" that have been spread online. I understand the anger but I really wish some people would realize that discussing leaked bts lore stuff in ccs discord servers does not help the situation at all and instead makes it seem like they're only doing this to rile up the fandom against quackity studios by using the lore of people's fav characters.

At the end of the day, I think people just aren't used to dealing with a situation that does not have a clear cut solution and someone to clearly hate, so the result is this doomposting and the over aggressiveness toward anything related to the project. Personally, I haven't witnessed anything that made me lose faith in the qsmp like some people have been saying, as every change that we've seen so far coincides with what quackity said on stream a while ago. I only wish things were communicated properly to the admins clearly, as they're the ones most affected, so I hope that's resolved soon. Ultimately quackity is singlehandedly restructuring the server from basically zero, has had to fire people that were misusing money and power and, depending on what josè's document said, is probably gonna have to fire some more. This is not an easy process, nor a quick one, you're not gonna hear about sunshine and rainbows for a while and doomposting about everything you hear because you expected quick change is useless. Think before you speak, have a clear head and most importantly have empathy.

#I have anons turned off btw #qsmp #qsmp discourse #qsmp admins #qadmin situation #qsmp critical #qsmp fandom critical

[the-lgbtqsmp]

reminder:

ccPhil is NOT qPhil

don't ship ccs with each other, that's weirdge

really, for any cc, as long as you don't shove shit in their faces, it's fine! there will always, inevitably, be something that a cc (or a viewer) would rather not see

so, don't like = don't interact = block if you need to

qPhil, whether you think romantically or just as a friend, is in love with qMissa. qPhil has expressed so much sentiment and is so patient with qMissa. So, let them be gay. Let ccPhil decide what he wants to do with his own character, and don't worry about how other people will interpret it

so,

if Phil didn't want us to ship his cubito with Missa's cubito, then why he act down bad for him 🤨 🤨

p.s. one google search says "Kristin Rosales Watson"

#qsmp #qsmp fandom critical #qsmp philza #qsmp missa #qsmp pissa #philza minecraft #missa sinfonia

[cellberry]

"Oh so now the qsmp characters understand grief when it's THEIR eggs. Serves them right!!! 😠"

Single father q!BBH just a few days ago carrying several of the other players' eggs on his back, his own two eggs on his hips, the guilt of the 4 dead eggs he feels personally responsible for in the pit of his stomach, and the traumatic memories of the unofficial egg deaths he witnessed in the back of his mind:

#qsmptwt you don't deserve your ccs or their cubitos #q!bbh #qsmp eggs #qsmp #qsmp discourse #qsmp fandom critical #the empty nests #my posts #q!badboyhalo #tw implied child loss

[marifrommars]

So… For those who didn't watch Quakity's live today, watch it. I will just say a few things.

First of all, fuck any of you who actively or innocently had anything to do with Quakity's doxing. He didn't deserve this. I hope you are happy now. He gave everything he cold to this project. Something he treated like a son, and now he won't even be part of it anymore, out of fear.

Secondly, as much as I feel that Quakity is to be genuine about resolving all the problems that Qsmp had, everything is not yet 100% dealt with, the situation with the admins has to be resolved as quickly as possible, we are talking about lives here, who gave everything for a project that didn't treat them well.

Thirdly, I will no longer be part of this community for now. I will continue to support Ccs, but I will not, nor do I want to, consume anything else of the server. This project was Quakity´s, and without hjm it doesn't make sense to me. Qsmp was about bringing communities together, but unfortunately, there are bad people everywhere. In the end, EVERYONE sucked. I'm tired of suffering for a community that doesn't care about something they supposedly "loved so much".

At the moment I just hope that the admins are okay. I hope Quakity can overcome this and focus on other things. And may this community one day return to what it was. I miss what we were.

If you need to talk, my dm is there. Stay safe and well. XX

Então… Para aqueles que não assistiram a live do Quakity hoje, assistam. Eu vou falar sobre o assunto brevemente.

Primeiramente, foda-se qualquer um de vocês que tenha ativamente ou inocentemente algo a haver com o Doxing do Quakity. Ele não merecia isso. Eu espero que vocês estejam felizes agora. Ele deu tudo de si neste projeto, algo que ele tratava como um filho, e agora nem sequer vai mais fazer parte, por medo.

Segundamente, por muito que eu sinta que o Quakity esteja a ser genuino sobre resolver os problemas que o Qsmp teve, ainda não está tudo 100% tratado, a situação com os adms tem que ser resolvida o mais rapido possivel, estamos a falar de vidas aqui, que deram tudo de si por um projeto que não as tratou bem.

Terceiramente, não farei mais parte desta comunidade por enquanto. Continuarei a apoiar os Cc´s, mas não vou, nem quero, consumir mais nada sobre o servidor. Este projeto era do Quakity, e sem ele não faz sentido para mim. O Qsmp era sobre unir comunidades, mas infelizmente, existem pessoas ruins em todo lado. No final, TODOS foram uma merda. Para mim já deu, estou cansada de sofrer por uma comunidade que não se importa por algo que supostamente "Amavam tanto".

De momento só espero que os adms fiquem bem. Espero que o Quakity possa ultrapassar isto e focar-se em outras coisas. E que esta comunidade possa um dia voltar ao que foi. Sinto saudade do que eramos.

Se precisarem de conversar, minha dm tá ai. Fiquem seguros e bem.

#qsmp #quakity #qsmp admins #qsmp discourse #qsmp fandom critical #im tired as hell #im just so mad rigth now #sorry if im being to agressive #love you guys #you are loved stay safe and drink some water <3

[pixiecaps]

now this may sound crazy but did you know women and men can be friends without it needing to be dubbed a familial dynamic

#qsmp #discourse tag just inn casee #fandom critical

[cassberry]

Just as a note from someone who's been in mcytblr for years now, qsmpblr you really have to start reblogging more posts.

Out of all the mcytblr fandoms I've been in, qsmpblr has some of the worst reblog to like ratios I've seen and that's incredibly sad because there are so many talented people in this space.

Reblogging is super important because it moves posts out of a tag and as the Tumblr search system is atrocious, a lot of those posts are lost to time if not reblogged.

The only reason people are able to find old posts a lot of the time and keep them circulating is because someone reblogged it. It keeps the qsmpblr ecosystem alive when you reblog stuff!

I have 3-4 year old posts from hermitblr and trafficblr that still get notes to this day because people find them on other people's blogs.

I'm not saying you have to reblog every single post you come across and I'm not trying to make you feel guilty if you don't, that's silly. But if you like something maybe consider reblogging it as well.

Think of it like a corkboard on your wall, you get to display a cool post whether it's art or a text post for others to see, and the poster is happy that their post has been acknowledged. It's a win-win!

#qsmp #fandom critical #<- just a light crit <3 #qsmpblr has been so lovely i just want everyone to be appreciated #i've had so many artist friends get really discouraged on qsmpblr because their posts get no notes #other than likes that is #(i have a theory that its because we have such a large ex-twitter population here) #(reblog things please) #(likes do nothing) #berry.posts

[hushberry]

fans are already cheering over "yuri island" but come the fuck on, people. if you reduce these female characters to their shipping potential you're going to look like an asshole. jaiden and baghera are already staying far away from shipping for their own reasons. i'm sure they're aware that people get fucking weird when female creators attempt to roleplay crushes and romance. REAL weird. the two new women might end up being uninterested for that reason, too.

nikki and rivers are not there to be your WLW representation, they're there to have cool personalized stories and make new cross-culture friends like the rest of the players. don't immediately start pushing their characters to be in a relationship together.

#qsmp #discourse but not rlly. more like criticizing the fandom #dont know about rivers history with this stuff but nikki hasnt had a good time in the past with roleplaying crushes

[galatoma]

I'm ngl, I think some people should be more careful about what they say about creators or their characters on the qsmp. Like right now, the thing im seeing a lot of is people calling Tubbo annoying for missing social cues, talking too much about the things that interest him, and so on. He's not even the only one I've seen this happen to because I've also seen happen before when people ragged on BBH for being intentionally dismissive of other creators because he was, according to them, "not paying enough attention."

And, to be clear, I understand that there is a gap between fiction and reality, and what you'd say about fictional things doesn't necessarily reflect what you'd say to someone in real life. But sometimes i see this directed at the creators themselves, which already just sucks, and even beyond that just seeing this kinda stuff thrown around can be kinda depressing, especially if you're a fan who wants to enjoy this fanspace but can relate to things people chose to shit on creators for.

It also doesn't make you a bad person to have unknowingly partaken in this, I'm not saying this makes you some unforgivable monster. I just need some specific people to reconsider before they say stuff like this, pretty please 🙏

#qsmp #tubbo #badboyhalo #fandom critical

[qtubbo]

Guys you know it’s okay to dislike a character who has reason for their actions (i.e death of a child), especially when it comes down to hurting a child. People are allowed to dislike a character even if you like them, or find the reason not legitimate, people are allowed to critic actions that are founded in grief. Regardless of reason people are allowed to be upset if Slime, Roier, Jaiden, or Mariana hurt in child in grief, liking a heavily flawed character means you’re liking a character that’s going to be critiqued a lot. It’s okay to make defense, but you can’t just say someone being upset or disappointed is unreasonable.

#qsmp #Qsmp fandom crit #It’s not being unable to take flawed characters if someone critics their actions #If you are not able to take criticism of a flawed character that means you are unable to take flawed characters #They are flawed for a reason

[trashfangirlsworld]

Why am I seeing people say to those that are hoping that wilbur and tallulah's tower is safe that they "need to let tallulah's admin move on"?????What, Wilbur's not logging on so eveything he's built needs to be erased and his character needs to be gone from tallulah's mind?And people can't be sad???

I swear, this fandom has a problem with wanting to erase characters the moment a cc doesn't log on for a while, this is not just a qwilbur thing

#people are more vocal with him though #probaly because wilbur is less in the cc sphere now #so he's not entertaining them enough I guess :/// #qsmp #qsmp fandom critical

[wizardyandcheesesammich]

"We need more morally grey characters" "We want another villain arc" "Give us more conflict"

Please, yall can't even handle Philza Minecraft talking to an egg in a semi-trolling manner ONCE (1).

#fandom asks for nuance fandom gets nuance fandom is unable to handle nuance #friendly reminder that this is not a wholesome story for all that it has a lot of wholesome elements in it #qsmp has always been drama/horror adjacent and you are more than allowed to step out of streams/fandom spaces for your own well being #but don't act surprised if you stick around and not everything is sunshine and rainbows and everyone getting along #characters can and will act in ways you disagree with because it is the story the ccs want to tell it's up to you to decide to keep watchin #qsmp #qsmp crit #fandom critical

[cellberry]

"The members of Bolas didn't stay together after purgatory because they didn't have a true bond" they didn't stay together because most of them died/ went missing.

#q!jaiden did not die for this #team bolas #qsmp #qsmp purgatory #qsmp discourse #qsmp fandom critical #purgatory event #my posts

[phatcatphergus]

I think that my main takeaway from this is that while the miscommunication is one thing, and there was obviously a barrier there that wasn’t sorted out, I don’t appreciate the way the admin went about talking about it. I think that tossing tubbo into the hot seat and talking about his lore on another persons stream (who is not connected to the lore) was unprofessional and they should have reached out with a private message first to get some clarity or ensure Tubbo was done with the lore before assuming he was.

My biggest problem is how the fandom treated tubbo afterwards. They used both his dyslexia and known forgetfulness to make fun of and blame him for a situation he had only half fault in at worst. The fandom gaslight him into doubting his own abilities and did so to a point that is triggering to those suffering with derealization or disassociation (which Tubbo has mentioned he had episodes with in the past or something similar). The absolute worst part of it all is that we all read and interpreted the book the exact same as Tubbo did and instead of taking accountability, people blamed tubbo for being “too dyslexic”, “too forgetful”, or “too dumb” to interpret the book correctly.

It’s genuinely horrific how people think that he’s too dumb for his own lore (because he’s nd perhaps?) and that he’s entirely at fault for a simple miscommunication error. I hope he continues with his lore the way he wants because this is all such bs

#it’s honestly so disgusting how they think they can treat him like that and then it fucking works and he second guesses himself #bullying is not nice!!! #I think it also plays into how a lot of people don’t feel like they can critique the admins themselves bc they work so hard #and they do! but trhat doesn’t meant they’re perfect #they’re human and we all make mistakes that warrent criticism #tubbo #qsmp fandom crit #qsmp fandom neg #tw ableism #I’m going to bed now so wish me sweet dreams

[daisyychainssj]

I know to some people it’s become a little bit of a joke now like “oop the French have been forgotten again nothing new” in terms of the times of events and not really caring if many or even any of the French ccs are available to be present for things but seeing that Quackity’s stream last night had subtitles for every language involved in the QSMP but French is a bit disheartening. I understand that the stream was late for Europeans and maybe he just didn’t expect many French speakers to be watching a stream that started at like 3am for them but it would’ve been nice for it to placed there just out of courtesy or for vod watchers. I know Quackity would never do something to purposefully alienate his French audience or the French part of the QSMP fandom it was probably just a genuine mistake/oversight on his part but after months of stuff like this happening it is tiring. Like there was no clips of any of the French speaking cc in the compilation they used at the election night dinner, barely any animatics of them in the first movie night, people on Twitter had to tag the QSMP accounts in art of the French and tweets they made practically begging for more art by the French community of the French speaking ccs to be added, Etoiles and Baghera both spoke about wishing there were clips of them in the election dinner compilation and movie night (about how they promise they’re funny and interesting which is sad that they even felt like they had to prove that they deserved to be included) Not to mention to countless events they either had to miss or stay up until 3am so they could be included. They all spoke about how they were genuinely upset/frustrated at missing out. That’s not even getting into the fandom issues I see all of the time such as the ccs just constantly being treated like their stories and lore is lesser and just a side story to their faves “main plot” idk it’s just disheartening I guess. I’m hoping things get better moving forward 🫶🏻

#qsmp #qsmp neg #<- just to be safe #fandom criticism #discourse #<- maybe idk if I’d call this discourse but just in case

[yb-cringe]

theres like. a difference between doomposting and someome just having fun. btw. like its valid to be annoyed when people are like ITS OVER ITS OVER

but when someones just trying to indulge in a Not Happy turn of events that might happen thats just.. them hanging out. thats not Doomposting thats them playing with toys on the playground why are you kicking their sandcastle

#like you can want sad shit to happen. thats fine #whys that a bad thing. its a story. sometimes you want sad shit to happen #qsmp #fandom crit #fandom critical

[simplepotatofarmer]

tw: death threats, self-harm, rape threats, suicide baiting, racism, slurs, antisemitism, transphobia, and homophobia

i'm making this post because the fact that people don't believe there's harassment happening is wild. it's been happening since the usmp was announced. it got worse when the racism issue on the qsmp happened, which i felt very strongly about speaking out on, and has honestly not stopped. so i want to give a breakdown of what's happened and what i've seen.

i had to leave for a few days to avoid the harassment. people threatened me with acts of violence, threatened my kids and my pets, people were spamming qrts with images of self-harm hidden in fancams. they called me slurs or demanded to see my tribal enrollment. even someone here on tumblr said they believed people were probably faking being indigenous. there was a ton of 'oh so now dream stans care about racism'. because they see us as dream 'stans' first and foremost. this has been a long running issue for poc in the fandom.

people have been doxxed and at least one person got the police involved because someone showed up to their house. this was one of the admins of the usmp update account, an account that was hacked and whose admins have been endlessly harassed and threatened.

i have never seen this level of harassment before and this fandom once drove me to be hospitalized.

it's bad. and it's real. the fact that people are saying things like it's fake or 'dream stans always have to be the victim' is just awful. people on here have made jokes about the very real threats of violence, doxxing, and rape threats that are being directed not just at dream and his family, including his minor sister, but his fans as well. people are being harassed and threatened with the most vile shit. there are legitimate threats. people are scared. it isn't okay.

there's no doubt that people on both sides have been cruel. none of that is okay. i've seen stuff that i absolutely do not approve of. it's never okay to harass people. point blank. there's no 'but' to that.

right now, the fact is that people are being harassed and badly. whatever you may feel about dream and his fans, these things are real and unacceptable.

under the cut is examples of what i'm talking about. not all of them as a lot of people immediately blocked people (that's what i did until i began keeping what i could):

#mctyblr #usmp #qsmp #quackity #dreamwastaken #harassment #discourse #fandom critical #please heed tw i'm beggin'