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oldfashionedbooklove · 3 months

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Thoughts after reading Martin the Warrior for the second time ♥️

- I haven’t read many books that can transport you into a “too beautiful to be true” setting like Noonvale. Anne of Green Gables is the only equivalent. I don’t know how he does it because the descriptions are so cliché or basic, yet somehow you FEEL the peace and love and perfection…

- Felldoh. Oh my heart, Felldoh. He breaks me every time 😭 I want so much more for him, yet somehow he feels destined to his story. He’s such a great guy, really, when he isn’t consumed with justice and protection. I love him in juxtaposition to Martin. Both are warriors, both hate Badrang and intend to free the world from him, yet Martin has a larger nature that allows him to let go briefly, while Felldoh is obsessed. Even if Felldoh went with Martin & Rose to Noonvale he’d still be obsessed. I love Brome’s wise words about paths of vengeance, but also Felldoh’s & Martin’s wisdom in insisting we can’t just ignore evil and run from it but destroy it or not only will it hurt others as it hurt us, it will spread like a cancer.

- Martin, by the way, is something else. I don’t know why I love him so much but he’s amazing. Really. Such a fascinating, admirable character. I see why he’s the guardian of Redwall.

- I love the talk about bravery between Felldoh & Brome, about how not everyone can kill, and it’s good to be innocent, and being a healer is just as important and brave.

- Also…. poor little Juniper who gave his life… 💔 And I love Ballaw. He’s not as amusing as most hares but he’s good and noble and his words about stages and curtains fit things so WELL. And I have to mention Keyla, who’s absolutely amazing himself!!

- The last few pages are terribly beautiful. I still don’t understand why SHE had to die… really. I know the plot demands it in a way, but… why? She can’t really be… she’s too vibrant to just cease. But oh, Martin, my heart hurts for you so much. And his words about memories… ♥️

- There’s things and parts in the Redwall books that are silly and cliché and poorly written, and remind me he wrote these for kids. Then there’s some supremely awful and beautiful bits that remind me why I adore these books and why Martin is my favourite of them all…

- and the Treehouse TV show is so good for this book ♥️

*edited 23.1.24

#martin the warrior #redwall reading #redwall fandom #redwall #redwall thoughts #redwall read #redwall reread

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pitviperofdoom · 1 year

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Another fun character archetype in the Redwall series: the often unusually competent toddler that helps drive the plot.

In Redwall it was Sam Squirrel, in Mossflower we had pretty much all the Stickle kids, and now in Mattimeo there's Rollo Bankvole. Sam pretty much carried the plot of Redwall with half his paw jammed into his mouth; Ferdy, Coggs, Spike, and Posy basically played different parts in springing Gingivere from Kotir's dungeon, and Rollo's already out here solving the riddle of the week with baby logic.

I love it. It's not like the series is short on Kid Heroes otherwise, Mattimeo's nothing but kid heroes, but for some reason BJ kept having babies and toddlers play key roles his plots, and it's so good every time. Can't wait to read about baby Dumble beating up crows in Salamandastron.

#redwall #redwall reread #mattimeo

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brb-on-a-quest · 8 days

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Ok so reading Redwall for the maybe first or second time?

Pretty sure I either read it or a diff book in the series and remember nothing at all except I liked it and I'd read it again. Found it at my local bookstore (my beloved) for 3 dollars and picked it up.

Enjoying it so far. But I wanted to ask how....ethics work here.

Because Redwall is an abbey that's run by mice who are very peaceful and loving and don't take lives and they're extremely "we take no lives and even predatores will leave monks of our abbey alone out of respect for us"

Except then, they kill a fish and eat it for the abbot's jubilee anniversary, where there's been a bunch of animals invited and stuff.

And Im just like... wait a minute.... do fish not count? How do small mammals vs other groups of animals work in this world? Am I over thinking a children's book? probably. Should I be doing homework? also probably.

#Im finding it amazing otherwise #i haven't had such fun with a book in awhile bc its mostly been rereads of stuff im very familiar with #this one if i've read i've forgotten everything already #redwall #brain jacques #i love the concept of monk-mice #and animal civiliations #its fantastic

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ravennory · 5 months

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hi tagg

#another sketch woohoo yippee #i bounce between giving them more human animal (furry) or critter anatomy (still a furry but shorter limbs n not a humanoid chest)#OH WELL.#redwall #my art #taggerung #deyna #<- added bc i might have forgotten his actual name . i will reread taggerung so sorry redwall fans

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kiwibirb1 · 3 days

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I should do a random quote to announce my presence. That sounds like fun hehe

#its prob gonna be a lot of anphibia tbh #might get other random things #im planning on rereading redwall soon so theres that #get ready for some molespeak lol #see i say all this but we know ill forget

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xiphosuras · 2 years

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The shadow of the Badger Lord

#redwall #redwall art #redwall fanart #badger lord #salamandastron #finished a reread of Salamandastron last week and I wanted to draw some of the characters #I really liked Mara #her relationship with Urthstripe was interesting and she's just a cool character all round #mixed media #inked #anthro #fanart #Urthstripe #Mara of Redwall #badger #animals

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happytapirstudio · 4 months

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Redwall Reread #1: Lord Brocktree

1st in chronological order, 13th in publication order (2001)

(major spoilers under the cut)

Summary: The Badger Lord, Brocktree of Brockhall, journeys to the legendary mountain of his ancestors, Salamandastron, to liberate it from the cruel wildcat tyrant Ungatt Trunn.

Framing Device: A Badger Lord many years after Brocktree's time is sharing this story with the greater Salamandastron community: his wife, two kids, the hares of the Long Patrol, and various seaside neighbors.

The Goodies: Primarily Brocktree (da badger on da quest) and Dotti (a young hare, headed to Salamandastron to visit her aunt.) Along the way they pick up Ruff the river otter, Gurth the mole, and a veritable shitton of other critters, including shrews, hedgehogs, and hares of the regular and mountain variety. Meanwhile, back at the mountain, we've got Brocktree's dad, the elderly Lord Stonepaw, and his host of similarly elderly warrior hares. One of these hares, Fleetscut, is sent on a quest to recruit younger warriors; he is saved and then joined by Jukka and her tribe of squirrels. In the last third of the book, a team of sea otters joins the fight.

The Baddies: Ungatt Trunn (wildcat), leading a horde of vermin (rats, weasels, foxes, etc.) all of which have dyed their fur blue. It is his Blue Horde, and there are a lot of them. There's a major nautical component to the army--they come in on ships, and a lot of their number are former pirates--but Trunn himself is a landlubber from the mountains. Truthfully I don't know where he got this incredibly massive army (arguably the largest in Redwall history), but I'm gonna say it was daddy's money. Notable underlings include the stunted fox magician, Groddil, a ferret called the Grand Fragorl, the rat captain Mirefleck, the stoat captain Fraul, the fox captain Karangool and the searat brothers Ripfang and Doomeye.

The Freakies: CRAB MOMENT 🦀🦀🦀!!! Additionally, a big pike.

The Birdies: A flightless, short-eared owl named Udara Groundslay and a (nonverbal) grey heron named Rulango.

Noteworthy Locations: Primarily Salamandastron and the surrounding coastal area. Also Mossflower Wood, pre-Redwall Abbey. Everything inbetween falls into the category of "somewhat arid open country", though I'd say King Bucko Bigbones' Clearing deserves a special mention as a sort of verdant oasis in all that sad scrubland.

Noteworthy Weapons: My main man Broccoli wields a double-hilted broadsword. With all due respect to the cover artists of both editions, I don't think that's what Mr. Jacques had in mind. I think it looked like a normal sword with a second cross guard on the blade itself. We've also got Tuna's weapon of choice, a three-pronged trident. Very nautical-core of him. Honorable mention to Dotti's carpet bag, swung about with wild abandon, as well as the hareccordion within.

Riddles: None!

Continuity Notes: Brocktree (+ Stonepaw) and Trunn are each part of their own extensive lineage of badgers and wildcats, featured in other books. We've also got a Martin the Warrior cameo (he shows up in one of Brocktree's visions.) Additionally, although Salamandastron and the Badger Lords have already been around for a long time, this book marks the beginning of I guess its "modern" age, with the founding of the Long Patrol.

Other Notes: This is perhaps the one and only Redwall book without a distinctive mouse character. Martin doesn't count, nor do the smattering of mice mentioned once in Bucko's court, as none of them have either a name or a speaking role. Squeaking role, excuse me.

Bonus Note - Homestuck: Trunn is, and I am not shitting you here, Vriska-core. He keeps his ship's stateroom full of spiders and spiderwebs, stocked with flies via the decaying bodies of people who pissed him off. Like the spider-pirate intersection is not one well-traversed in fiction, right? This is not a trope, right?? Also an uncanny coincidence that Trunn's sidekick, the crippled fox, is crippled because Trunn intentionally broke his back as a child. ?!? Alexa play X-files theme

Tapir Takes:

(1) I am a huge fan of the Brocktree-Dotti dynamic (big scary man burdened with the shadow of destiny + a sunny hyperactive little girl who seems apparently oblivious to life's darkness but can in fact dish out some serious ass-kicking.) Unfortunately, this relationship (and several others) are overshadowed by the exponentially increasing cast of characters and the forward momentum of the plot itself.

(2) Realizing for the first time that Redwall does a surprisingly good job at subverting gender roles. Not perfect, but still leagues above many movies and shows that are still coming out in this the year of our lord 2023. The girls can fight about as good as the boys, the boys can cook just like the girls, and nobody in-universe bats an eye. Some of y'all should be taking notes.

(3) Pulling out a quote in chapter 6: "If'n yore bound to take the life of a livin' thing for food, then take only wot you need. Life's too precious a thing t'be wasted." This is said by Ruff as he pulls fish out of the water for dinner. I've wondered about vegetarianism in Redwall before, and although I haven't got much to say on it now, I wanted to mark this passage for later. It's worth noting that fish are non-speaking animals in the Redwall universe.

(3.5) I'd also like to point out that the starving Horde plans to eat their captive hares once they've exhausted Salamandastron's food supply. Is this cannibalism, since the hares can talk and think same as the vermin? It's never explicitly stated in the series, but I think it's pretty clear that the differences between (talking) animals in-universe are more akin to race than species. Anyway, putting a pin in that for now.

(4) On a similar vein, I'm interested in the philosophy of Jukka and her tribe. She and her squirrels live in a patch of woods in the midst of the open grasslands, several days from the shore, but still close enough to consider themselves neighbors. In a world where nearly all non-vermin fight only to defend themselves or the weak, Jukka's squirrels are unusual, in that they fight "for profit". To them, war is a business, a means of acquiring weapons. They kill all and take no prisoners. This is all pretty similar to general vermin philosophy. Perhaps the two main differences here are attitude (vermin are cruel and disloyal even to one another, whereas the squirrels demonstrate compassion for one another and even sometimes strangers) and necessity (vermin tend to steal everything, and are unable to support themselves without exploiting others, while the squirrels really only steal for weapons, and can provide themselves with food, clothes, shelter, etc.) I'm putting a pin in this one too, because the good guy-bad guy dichotomy in Redwall deserves some major analysis, particularly once we get to Taggerung and Outcast of Redwall.

OVERALL: I enjoyed this book tremendously. Bar is high for the rest of the books, but I'm confident they'll measure up. Cheers everyone :D

#redwall #lord brocktree #tapir literacy #tapir's redwall reread #long post

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milindso · 9 months

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Oop, my old special interest in the Redwall series is coming back.

#I'm rereading some of the books.#DEFINITELY Mariel of Redwall and The Bellmaker.#I want to read others too but not sure which ones yet.#Redwall

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alexsrandomramblings · 2 years

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Occurs to me though. Felldoh is very much what Martin could have become if he'd let his need for vengeance overtake him. Very nearly does become later in this book, as I recall.

#alex rambles #book rereading #martin the warrior #redwall

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moonybadger · 10 months

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I think I’d like the book Triss a lot more if it was... you know. Actually about Triss.

#redwall #I'm amazed at how uninterested this book is in it's title character #who is honestly very interesting and compelling but keeps getting sidelined #bored badgering #kind of annoyed that this is how the only female wielder of Martin's Sword gets treated in her own book #when she arguably has more in common with Martin then even Matthias #I really should have made a tag for my redwall reread lol

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oldfashionedbooklove · 10 months

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Unpopular Redwall opinions (according to the Goodreads reviews I’ve seen):

- I love that there’s poems and songs thrown in willy-nilly. I think they almost always suit the occasion and I always enjoy reading them. Some are awfully pretty.

- I love the dialects. Can’t talk me out of it. The moles wouldn’t be moles without it.

- I love the hares. I don’t care if they’re similar and always hungry and talkative and sometimes downright stupid and silly. I love them all. And they’re usually pretty amazing.

- Love how similar the books are. Really has a comfort food feel to it. Though as someone has mentioned, they aren’t as similar as people complain.

I may add more as I think of them…

*edited 14.08.23

#redwall reread #redwall #redwall read #redwall fandom #redwall thoughts #redwall reading #redwall quotes #badgers of redwall #brian jacques

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pitviperofdoom · 1 year

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The Redwall series has a lot of recurring character types throughout the series, and one of the types I'm most fond of is the sympathetic minor villain that realizes partway through the story that shit's fucked and promptly gets the hell out of dodge. Just fully exits the narrative before they can be righteously killed in the final battle, and fucks off over the horizon. Where are they going? What are they doing? Will they find another warlord to serve? Take up farming? Who knows!

Anyway I hope Ashleg had a good life post-Mossflower, Tsarmina treated him like hot garbage.

#redwall #redwall reread #mossflower

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rose-of-redwall · 2 years

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*Spoiler Warning*

The baby owls that Taunoc and Orocca gave birth to in The Long Patrol- Nutwing, Nutbeak, and Nutclaw- are actually written about again later! Nutbeak and Nutclaw leave the Abbey when they are of-age, but Nutwing stays behind. He and the silly old owl in Marlfox are one in the same!

He befriends Friar Butty and lives in the gatehouse. He keeps a relationship with Cregga Rose Eyes, who he met when he was but a babe. He gives his life helping prevent Ascrod from invading the Abbey.