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finngualart · 3 months
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to celebrate the 10th birthday of the show that rewired my brain and almost 7 years of me having to live with schrödinger's Flint, i decided to redraw a piece from 2017. this is a self-indulgent au where Madi convinces Silver not to shoot Flint/send Flint to Savannah and in stead they all run their little inn together okay? what's that? you're asking if Flint would be able to adjust to such a life? (would any of them?) of course he would, don't be silly, he could kick troublesome drunks out into the street, glare ominously at customers from behind the bar, pick fights, and threaten people who owe money :))) many happy returns to this fucking masterpiece
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heycarrots · 1 month
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There’s been a lot of discourse about the nature of James and Miranda’s relationship. There’s even been a lot of discussion on my podcast about it. One thing I want to make clear is that my podcast is a platform for discussion on all points of view. I’m not going to agree, 100%, with everything that’s said, but it makes the views of my guests no less valid. There’s no right or wrong, here, because this is art and therefore, it is subject to interpretation.
My intent, however, is to attempt to get as close to the original intent of the actors as possible because we look at a show or a film or a play as going through several layers of distillation. Each level purifies the intended narrative leaving its truest essence.
When we make a reduction sauce using an alcohol of some kind, let’s say a red wine, the heat applied to it burns off things we don’t need for flavor. You’re never going to get drunk off of red wine reduction because there’s almost no alcohol left in it. That all gets burned off, leaving only the flavor components, which is what we wanted all along, anyway. We want that extra element that enriches the flavor of the steak, by adding nuance.
So let’s take apart that meal.
We start with the birth of the idea. The story kicks around in an author’s head, trying to get out, growing bigger and more persistent until it outgrows the confines of the mental box inspiration is stored in and has to be let out. That idea, that’s the cow.
The author raises that idea, feeds it, watches it grow, and then, ultimately slaughters it. That sounds awful, but once you have that idea pulsing, growing, evolving and then finally commit the final draft on paper, it is a kind of death. The life of the story comes to an end and it becomes memorialized in a mausoleum. Readers will come to visit, spend time with it, lay down flowers, cherish it, and mourn its passing.
The next level is adaptation. That’s the steak. There are many ways you can slice the story, large roasts encompassing the whole story or a smaller, hyper-focused character study fillet mignon.
A writers room gets hold of the cow and carves it up. They choose what gets cooked and what gets tossed. A GREAT group of writers saves the bones. They take in the entire supporting structure of the piece and while the whole story may not make it onto the screen, they will have slow roasted the bones for a stock. When you watch a show like Black Sails, where themes are introduced that won’t fully be explained or explored until several seasons later, that’s what that is. It is the stock being used to flavor the whole dish. You’ve distilled the entire cow to its purest essence and so every scene, every line of dialogue, every acting choice, encompasses the entirety of the story. A line from episode one is defined by knowledge of the finale and in regard to dialogue, defined by an actors’ knowledge of a character’s backstory. There are many writers rooms who are creating the bones of the story as they go, which means they aren’t starting with a rich stock. You can’t trace back character motivations or choices to begin with because those motivations changed throughout production.
Black Sails, again, isn’t one of those shows. Steinberg and Levine came into the writers room with their stock pot full and sloshing, spilling story everywhere. The richness of the details they were laying can make season one a bit hard to consume unless you are ready for a story on that level. Viewers need to come to the table with some bread to sop up all those character details because we WILL need them later.
Over the course of finalizing scripts and blocking out episodes, the steak is cooked. Like any great steak, this story is medium rare. More juice comes out with every bite. It’s what makes the show infinitely rewatchable. It continues to cook on the plate, but because it wasn’t overdone, it never dries out.
When the actors get ahold of it, that’s the reduction sauce we were talking about. That sauce provides nuance and flavor. That’s the emotion. A line of dialogue on a page is just ink. It’s nothing until it’s spoken aloud. And like any bit of language in this world, it’s subject to interpretation. In this case, it’s the actor who does the interpreting.
I spoke on the podcast about the art of subtext and how huge a role it plays in Black Sails. One example we used is Jane Eyre. It’s one of the most frequently adapted novels in the English language and with each adaptation, we get a new version of our characters. The most volatile and subject to change is Rochester. There are MANY versions of Rochester that I find appalling (including the original beast in the book), but each actor has formed him into something else, based on their performance. Toby Stephens takes Rochester and turns him into a silly tragic romantic, broken many times over by a society he never really fits into, despite the status of his birth. He connects with Ruth Wilson’s Jane because she fully and happily inhabits that space on the fringes that Rochester thinks he needs to climb out of. Jane takes his hand on the outside of the wall, turns him away from the guarded palace and shows him the wild world that was at his back this whole time.
This is what Toby Stephens, Luke Arnold, Louise Barnes, Zethu Dlomo, and really all the actors for whom their subtextual choices make them reflect like prisms, have done with their performances.
In the final distillation, character motivations and emotions are finalized by the actor. Writers can pontificate, the source material lies dead in its lovely tomb, but stories live and breathe by their storytellers.
What we’re left with is Toby’s face telling the world how deeply Flint loves Silver. Every single choice tells this story.
We’re left with Luke showing us how much Silver is repressing in his feelings for Flint. Luke’s face shows us an incredible depth of feeling and a door slamming shut.
We’re left with the incredible intimacy between James and Miranda, which speaks of a decade of shared physical intimacy. There’s an openness, a freeness to it until the moment in episode 3 when Miranda learns that James has found the Urca and is leaving soon to pursue it. She gives some of it away when she says “I thought I’d have you all to myself”. She is mourning the loss of intimacy that she only gets in short windows of time. They aren’t strained because James isn’t attracted to her, but because he’s rarely there. She has him for a few days at a time before he’s off on another hunt. The coldness starts from the moment he tells her he’s leaving in a few days because I believe she thinks he won’t be coming back, that this is the hunt he won’t survive and she’ll finally have lost both James and Thomas. From the moment Richard Guthrie darkens her door, she’s looking for a way to weaponize him and get them out. For her, it’s a race against the clock and she’s willing to sacrifice a bit of her relationship with James in the present to secure happiness for them in the future.
This is also why James still has sex with her before leaving, even though he’s furious for her reading Meditations to Richard. This is how they connect. They connected through physical intimacy in the flashbacks, as well. Him stroking her thumb in the carriage before the kiss. Tactile contact to seal their understanding of each other. Miranda bracing her hands on his chest during important moments in the Hamilton’s home, something she also does to Thomas, to show physical connection, physical intimacy. Miranda thrives on physical touch.
To think that, for 10 years, James is lying there like an object for Miranda to use, is, to me, short sighted. To think that James doesn’t love Miranda outside of a group, is also ignoring the fact that, 10 years on, James will not leave on a hunt (angry as they both are) without physically connecting with her, trying so hard to reach beyond his anger and the wound freshly opened from sight of that book he’s chosen not to look at for probably the better part of those 10 years. The way his hands hover over her back after she comes and he desperately wants to be with her in that moment, like the best of their moments, but he just can’t, speaks to the depth of his love for her.
So many fans of the show point to this sad sex scene as one of the most important character moments for James and Miranda, but I consistently come to the opposite conclusions about WHY it’s important and what we learn from it, because I’m taking my cues from the actor’s choices, not the director or the writers. On the page, in plain ink, he hates having sex with her. Toby and Louise show us, however, that they are trying to recapture a thing that is fleeting, reaching out to each other to patch up an old wound from which the scab has been picked off, leaving it seeping and raw.
From Toby’s performance, regardless of the words he uses years later to describe it, we see not a character who “loves men” or a character who “loves women”, but a character who LOVES. I don’t see Flint defining that love in terms of boxes and parameters. He’s a character who must be coaxed out, but then loves without reason, without a safety net, as he proves with his love of Silver. As was also referenced by a guest on the podcast, he places a sword in Silver’s hand and says “do it”.
Anyway, this post got away from me and took several turns, but the love between James and Miranda being dismissed by so many in the fandom has been bugging me for a while and I just needed to emotionally vomit on tumblr.
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Six stills from season four of Black Sails, with text from a different scene edited like subtitles onto them.
First image: "I just missed it." Madi's face as she looks at Silver when she comes to him on the cliffs in the final episode
Second image: "Our life then when he was alive." Madi, Flint, and Silver in the governor's mansion in Nassau. Madi looks at Flint. Flint looks at Silver. The back of Silver's head is to the camera and he is looking at Flint.
Third image: "I can feel myself forgetting it and I don't want to forget it." Madi leans against a table in her room, refusing to make eye contact with Silver while he tells her what happened on Skeleton Island.
Fourth image: "This place, this life that we've been living here, it doesn't feel like living anymore." A long shot of Silver and Madi standing on the cliffs, separated by a significant distance.
Fifth image: "I can't be alone in feeling this way." Silver and Flint talking and sharing a drink below deck just before the assault on Nassau.
Sixth image: "Some part of you must feel it, too." Silver and Flint standing together on the cliffs at the beginning of their sword training flashbacks. Flint looks out over the ocean. Silver stands behind him, looking in the same direction.
(ID by @somfte)
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johnsilvers · 2 months
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thinking about how there are exactly two instances of silver asking people if he would be enough for them. and how in both instances he’s met with silence
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brotherconstant · 1 year
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Well, I'm not sensing a whole lot of urgency to do anything about it.
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loveinstreams · 1 year
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flint finding himself in between not one but TWO m/f relationship…ultimate side chick
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mr-culper · 7 days
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I understand Stevenson meant the parrot, but the only thing I could think of after reading these lines is this:
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I love this shot so much
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crepuscularqueens · 2 years
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What happens when somebody tells a story that has real people in it? What happens to the story; what happens to the teller; what happens to the people?
- Devil House, John Darnielle
[image description: 10 edited stills from black sails in muted colors.
image 1: still from season four episode four of Flint and Madi giving each other significant looks while Silver faces away from the audience and towards them. text reads: “What happens when somebody tells a story that has real people in it?”
image 2: still from season four episode three of Madi and Flint walking outdoors along a path together, Madi is on the left and Flint on the right. they are looking at each other while talking
image 3: still from from the same scene of Flint beginning to walk away from Madi but looking back at her, Madi looking in profile so Flint can see her face
image 4: still from season four episode ten of Silver on skeleton island, pointing a gun at Flint, looking conflicted. caption reads: “What happens”
image 5: still of the same scene focused on Flint, he looks clearly upset and resigned, there is an injury on the right side of his face. caption reads: “to the story;”
image 6: still from season four episode ten of Silver after he tells Madi what happened to Flint, as he is leaving, slightly looking back towards her. caption reads: “what happens”
image 7: still from the same episode of Silver when Madi comes to find him sitting on the sandy hill above the ocean afterwards. he is beginning to stand, using his crutch for support. caption reads: “to the teller;”
image 8: still from the same episode of Silver as he gets to the end of telling Madi what happened to Flint, Madi is out of focus and Silver stands behind her. caption reads: “what happens”
image 9: still from the same scene and angle as previous picture, this time Madi is in focus and Silver isn't, reduced to a figure standing in shadow behind her. Madi looks upset. caption reads: “to the people?”
image 10: still of Madi and Silver on the sandy hill over looking the ocean. Madi is standing on a path and Silver is beginning to walk towards her
end i.d.]
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maremote · 2 years
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the odyssey, (homer trans. stephen mitchell). book 2, lines 527-532
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twopointsinspace · 3 months
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So. The conversation between Madi and Silver in the flashback at the end of episode 9, season 4:
‘And after all the tragedies that man has suffered. The loss of Thomas, the events of Charles Town. I have earned his trust. I have his true friendship... and so he's going to have mine.’
When do we assume this took place? Was it the same day as their pillow talk about Madi not trusting Flint? (‘And it upsets you because you believe he is your friend?’) Obviously Madi already knows who Thomas is at this point. Did Silver tell her about him in the same conversation before this scene starts? Is Flint aware that Silver has told Madi about him? And why should Silver tell her about Thomas at all? I have so many questions.
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whereyoudontseeme · 2 years
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But I'm not the villain you fear I am. I'm not him.
(alternatively) You said this could’ve been the best thing that ever happened to you, so you decided not to do it. 
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Miranda: I just missed it. Our life then when he was alive. I can feel myself forgetting it and I don't want to forget it. This place, this life that we've been living here, it doesn't feel like living anymore. I can't be alone in feeling this way. Some part of you must feel it, too.
Flint: Things will get better here. I promise you they will.
ok sorry for like doing this (or am i evil imp emoji dot jpeg) but i really do think this flint and miranda interaction would be very similar to how madi and silver would interact post canon (if at all lmoa). and this is the driving force for silver starting the events that lead to treasure island because there is no life here there is no joy here and silver knows the exact moment he gave all that away and will always, always, be trying to recapture that feeling, that sense of belonging, just like flint was but it can't be done because flint (and originally thomas) are gone and silver and madi's (and flint and miranda's) relationship is broken beyond repair
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johnsilvers · 2 years
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thinking again about how silver killed the war and all three of them. there could be no war without flint and madi. there could be no flint or madi without the war. and ultimately there could be no silver without flint and madi and so there could be no silver without the war. he does or doesn't pull the trigger in that forest but the shot is fired anyway and meets all four targets at the same time
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jaynovz · 1 year
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Brinn @brinnanza made me a Madi to complete my pirate poly trio so here's some kissing.
They're in love 🥰💜🥰💜
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sasami-san · 5 months
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