was anyone gonna tell me the destiel allusion in the bloodlines script originally had an “I loved you” right in the middle of it, or did i just have to actually read the bloodlines script myself
LOL oh my god at the (quick check to make sure i am actually watching spn) hair color change like in the craft!
the craft (1996) [jesus it came out when i was 16??? what is time]
gonna throw the blond in the knockoff boyd holbrook (corinthian) / spn!brady (i called brady boyd hollbrook with a dash of armie hammer i am very consistent in my thought process lol) pile with bartholewhatever because apparently all slim white blond men occupy one spot in my head
spn s5e20 brady / the sandman - boyd holbrook as the corinthian / spn s9e3 bart
we also have budget tom cruise
another hunter via fridge origin story?
DEAN
Agents Bonham and Peart, FBI. We will take it from here.
100% heard bottom and pert and died inside a little bit. what i get for having the captions off to screenshot something
why are sam and dean speaking with southern accents, is this someone's recounting of meeting them (like the lilt up on "profile" from dean, the way sam said "last night" for ex. i'm just... they sometimes, like jackles especially does the again uhgin sometimes and other little bits of accent slip in but not like this)
little bit of andrew garfield maybe? lol good god brain, get it together. this actor was also in the vampire diaries as a character i may or may not have seen, already wasted too much time not gonna get a picture
i have a feeling i'm going to commit about 5% of this episode to memory.
MARGO
Yeah, you'll what? David, come on. You don't want this. You ran away to be a human. You always had a soft spot for 'em. Look, you're out. Stay out.
slow blink at the stanford era sam parallel
what the fuck is happening. why are sam and dean acting so weird talking to this nice boy ennis who looks about 18. who also has a post-stanford era sam parallel
DAVID
Wow. You are so in over your head. Let me give you the short version. Chicago is divided up between five monster families.
ENNIS
What? Is that a joke?
DAVID
Do you hear a laugh track?
i mean, i snorted
just insert me saying wtf is happening continuously
he's got the patented single tear of man pain too!
~and the real monsters were the humans~
they must have really been shooting in chicago because it looks like shameless! lol. have they ever shot on location before?
ENNIS
But I couldn't walk away. This is my fight now. Hell, it's a damn war, and I got to start somewhere.
laughing loudly, WHAT IS GOING ON. it's like a spinoff test
ENNIS
Who is this?
VOICE ON PHONE
If you start hunting, the monsters will kill you.
ENNIS
Dad? Dad?
??????
what did i just watch
from the wiki
This episode was also planned to be a backdoor pilot for Supernatural: Bloodlines, a series set in Chicago and based on the characters introduced in this episode, however it was never picked up by the CW.
losing it. that still doesn't explain why sam and dean were acting so strange and accented (briefly) 😂
when people talk about spn getting worse as the seasons go on, this type of episode is what i was worried about haha at least there was a very specific reason it was Like This
i know i'd heard there was a spinoff that didn't go anywhere but i still am somehow very surprised and confused
not-andrew garfield and ennis were good it was just a completely absurd not good episode
just finished 9x20 - i think bloodlines would actually have been a really good spinoff so how come CW didn't wanna make it when they made like 5 vampire diaries spinoffs no prob
Just watched bloodlines and I feel like I’ve had a stroke. Even if it never got picked up, I feel like it would have made continuity sense for them to have at some point ever again mentioned the mo(b/n)ster families in Chicago????
This is one of my all time favourite Jim and Pam moments. To me, this is what real love looks like. It's easy to love each other when it's new, or when everything is going well.
But it's so much harder to love each other through hurt and resentments, through hard and uncertain times.
This scene comes after everything has been so stilted and off between them for months, so painful to see their marriage struggling, to see them each starting to lose their best friend. And they've started counselling, but as Pam says earlier in the episode, her heart is so blocked up and it was really up in the air if they could stay together.
And then this moment - it doesn't matter how many times I see it, I still have tears. It's so beautiful.
I was just rewatching this episode and I just had to share how incredible this scene is.
Crowley offers to help the brothers hunt down Pestilence and reclaim his ring, while Dean gets a lesson in trust when Sam's history with the Four Horsemen's demon `Stable Boy' is revealed.
Features:
Swine Flu vs. Croatoan epidemics, a visit from Crowley, the Horseman’s stable boy, Sam’s plan to trap the devil, Dean and Crowley breaking into a pharmaceutical company, Brady from Stanford, lovers in league against Satan, Crowley making an offer to Bobby.
My Thoughts:
It is extremely disconcerting to watch an episode where the first half revolves around a plot point of an artificially engineered epidemic and an even more dangerous vaccine in the year of our Lord 2022, more than 2 years into covid. The honest-to-God conspiracy theories in the real world right now mimic a low-budget genre show from a decade ago.
Early days of Crowley are fun, I haven’t seen a lot of his early episodes in years. It’s entertaining to look at him bouncing around and bluffing and double-bluffing and kind-of-but-not-really betraying them while thinking about how he’s going to literally die for them in a few years. The seeds of Drowley are there early, to - Dean’s already picked him over Sam.
I think the Brady plot point is great, it’s cool to see the ways that Hell was manipulating their lives after a season of learning how Heaven has been doing it, right down to genetics.
I have some qualms with the pacing of the back half of season 5, but I’ll get into it more in the next season episode, since it’s the main problem.
Notable Lines:
“They burnt down my house! They ate my tailor!”
“I've sold sins to saints for centuries. Think I can't close one little demon?”
“What if you guys lead the devil to the edge and I jump in?”
“Brady hasn't been Brady in years. Not since, oh..middle of our sophomore year? That's right. You had a devil on your shoulder even back then.”
“All those angels, all those demons, all those sons of bitches --They just don't get it, do they, Sammy? [...] We're the ones you should be afraid of.”
“Maybe the only difference between you and a demon...is your hell is right here.”
Dean, Sam, Castiel and Bobby find Eve in a small town where the citizens have been converted to demons; Eve decides to torture Sam and Dean by bringing their mother back as a demon.
Features:
Eve’s gifts, Cas mercy killing a vampire, [pats Castiel], a bunch of dead clones, Jefferson Starships, Eve’s Diner, Eve as Mary, Eve’s experiments, Cas smiting a diner full of monsters, the revelation of Crowley still being alive, Bobby becoming suspicious of Cas.
My Thoughts:
Ok well first off I take major issue with the episode description on both Amazon Prime and IMDb because nowhere in the episode does it describe the new monsters as “demons”. I was all prepared to talk about how giving her the ability to create demons makes no sense and muddies the lore and they didn’t even do that.
I would like to speak to Adam Glass and ask him why he wrote the line about Cas being in Dean’s ass. What does it mean and why did John F. Showalter direct it the way that he did. It’s so gay.
Turning Eve, the Mother of All, into their actual mother, is brilliant. It gives the scene higher stakes and I also just love Sam Smith. It’s a great way to reveal that Crowley is still alive, and I believe her motivation. Overall the Eve plotline is an awkward way to segue into the Purgatory plot happening in the finale, but this episode is fairly strong. It’s too bad that aside from Crowley, it has very little relevance to the rest of the series.
Notable Lines:
“Cas, get out of my ass!” “I was never in your-”
“Well, that's great, because without your power, you're basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.”
“You know what, I'm getting a little sick and tired of the greater purposes, okay? I think what I'd like to do now is save a couple of kids, if you don't mind.”
“Is there anybody in this diner that is not a flesh-eating monster?” “Uh, me and you.”
“I was pushed into this. After all, a mother defends her children.”
Sam and Dean visit Chicago and find the city's underbelly is divided between powerful clans of monsters, including werewolves and shape-shifters.
Features:
A completely failed backdoor pilot, a proposal, some good old-fashioned violent misogyny, the monster mob, a complete lack of nuance.
My Thoughts:
My instinct is to start this with “the problem with this episode” but the problem is that every aspect of it is neutral to bad. I was watching live at this point and we were already clamoring for some kind of Donna/Jody spinoff, and this episode was such a letdown compared to the show I had been imagining.
First of all, the only connection to the show that we actually love is “monsters exist”, which isn’t strong enough to make me care. Ennis has no personality other than “cop” and “dead girlfriend”, which is the most cliché archetype I can imagine for this kind of show. There are way too many characters and every single one of them is a cookie cutter archetype, right down to the line “I was there. Where were you?” There’s even less nuance in the exploration of what’s monstrous than in Supernatural at large, and that’s saying something.
Even Sam and Dean aren’t particularly interesting or likeable in this episode, and not in a way that’s making a point about trauma or character development, just in a way that’s lazy.
Also, it annoys me that the shifter doesn’t rip his skin off. There was a whole plot point in season 9 about how only the Alpha can do that.
Notable Lines:
Literally not even the brothers’ dialogue was particularly good in this one.
Castiel tries to reconnect Claire with her mother who went missing, and calls Sam and Dean for help with the case.
Features:
Amelia Novak’s best dream/worst nightmare, Claire looking for her mom, Dean’s cool black jean jacket, Dean slamming a guy’s head into a table for calling Claire a bitch, Sam teaching Claire to hack credit card records, two dads buying grumpy cat at “The Hot Topical”, Stepdad-daughter minigolf, Grigori, Claire’s hero moment.
My Thoughts:
I didn’t actually take that many notes watching this episode because I was too busy feeling my feelings.
I love Claire. I think she’s one of the most realistic younger characters that Supernatural has ever attempted to write. I love that a core facet of her personality is that she’s too full of love to really hate anyone, even if they absolutely deserve it. Cas really is the monster the killed her dad, but she looks at him and still sees someone worth caring about. She can’t even successfully pretend that she’s looking for her mom to yell at her, and the first thing she does on seeing her is collapse crying in her arms calling her “mommy”.
I love her and Dean’s dynamic in this episode, it is exactly the fun step-dad energy that I like to see. I like that they’re both pretending to be hard-hearted while also genuinely enjoying playing minigolf. I like that Dean looks at her and sees someone who needs to find their family as badly as he did when he was young, and that he doesn’t try to keep her from doing it.
Grigori are only in two episodes of Supernatural: this one, and The Gamblers, when Jack eats one of their hearts for Billie’s plan and then is kidnapped by another. So basically, they exist in the narrative to threaten Cas’ surrogate children and reunite him with them, and in the lore they’re some of the first angels to turn their backs on God’s plan for them. That fucks, symbolically speaking.
Also, I know Dean slamming that guy’s head into the table was supposed to be the Mark getting worse, but if someone called a teenage girl looking for her mom a bitch I would be tempted to do the same.
Notable Lines:
“You were both troubled teens. You speak her language.
“In this line of work, death isn’t always goodbye.”
“It's ‘bring your daughter to work’ day at the Bureau.”
“Your dad's sacrifice was not meaningless. Yeah, he gave up his body, his ... his vessel. And because he did that, Cas... Cas was able to save the world. The world. Your father's a hero. He did not die in vain.”
“So, what? This is some sort of halfway house for wayward girls?”
Hey, I'm the spn anon from the incest poll blog. I'm this 👌 close to watching the damn thing, but 15 seasons is A Lot and I heard it kinda goes downhill, so is there a "the show should have ended here" season or should I stick with it to the bitter end? Also, any tips?
the traditional stopping point if you want to get off the ride while the getting's good is the end of s5, when the original showrunner left and wrapped up all the main plot arcs. everything after that is going to have at least one big dangling cliffhanger to reel you back in.
otherwise, bail after the s8 finale if you don't want to watch the show get more rough-bad than just silly-bad, or after the s11 finale if you don't want to watch it devolve any further into self-parodic gibberish. (note: these are just, like, my opinions, man, but they do track actual ragequit-inducing shifts in the show and correspond to decent stopping points. s5 i think is the only one that's widely agreed upon.)
also, tips: don't skip episodes, at least not until the show really jumps the shark a few episodes into s7. after that, feel free to look up fans' viewing guides, and have no compunction about skipping widely-beloathed stinkers. (on skimming an episode list, i'd nominate 7x05, 7x08, 8x15, 9x20, and 12x05 as "nothing of value would be lost" standouts, and 7x03, 10x21, and 11x22 for "not skippable per se, but Fucking Brace Yourself for ragequit-inducing bullshit." past s12 or so, if you're still watching, it's because the show has frog-boiled you into a level of ambient masochism that makes it pointless to try and single out individual episodes as "bad.")